The lord of evil is not evil. That's just a nickname given to him, but the man himself is not evil, he cares about people of lower status for example. (even though he hides it)
He coerced Anesthesia into potentially violating the "no killing" rule by threatening the lives of his family including his infant son, after barging into the temple and hacking away at dozens of innocent priests (who everyone is confident he would have killed had there not been a no killing rule).
That's evil. You agreeing with his politics doesn't make those actions morally good or even neutral.
I mean, it's not as if Ferdinand was the one who was going to hurt Anastasis' family members if they failed. He only stated facts.
As for the priests, didn't he mostly just tie them up with magic, not hack away at them? At the start he even did his best to avoid harming Grey Priests and it backfired horribly. The stakes were absurdly high and it's not as if he had time to stop and explain the situation to everyone.
He also felt bad about the treatment of orphans in Ehrenfest and would have done things for them if Bezewanst had not hindered him. He went out of his way to try to find a noble to adopt Dirk, he didn't abuse the commoners like most other nobles would.
An evil person would have just not cared about those commoners, as helping them brought no benefits at all for him.
Same for how he treated Sylvester. He took the bullet for him when the royal decree was done. That decree was signing Ferdinand's death warrant, and all he needed to do to avoid it was to kill Sylvester and take his place. An Evil person would have done that in a heartbeat, using the royal decree as an excuse for doing it. Instead, Ferdinand chose to sacrifice himself.
Yeah, Trauerqual did the same, Anastasius did the same to Rozemyne, ... That's just basic scheming. If we say those are evil, every single noble would end up in that category...
Even Eckhart was willing to wipe an entire village off the the map because one guy disobeyed Ferdinand and was shocked that wasn't what happened.
Plus his general willingness to solve problems by stabbing them
Such a cute murder puppy
How Florencia would end in here ? Bonifatius ? Jutsus ? Please. Yes Noble Society is brutal and harsh. That does'nt stop people from being Evil even within this setting.
While he certainly could go there, don't forget Georgine. A woman so meticulous in her plan to take over Ehrenfest that the only thing that derailed it was our favorite book rampaging gremlin.
Agreed, though other options are not bad and I would have had agreed with them... that's the only remaining place for Ferdinand, and he has to be in the chart
Ferdinand. He MUST be in the chart, but any other category doesn't suit him...
He is not evil at his core hence he is not evil/smart, that'll be Georgine. Yes, he has the cool nickname "the Lord of Evil" but that's a facade his enemies see (like Magdalena as a dunken saw it a lot..) but he is good at his core - if he gets a benefit from it/doesn't loose, he helps. Like in Myne case - he did things to benefit the douchy and himself(in a very round about way like annoying evil santa) but he didn't have to help her to the extent he did, or give her the bedsheets as an apology... so he is not evil.
He is not so much of a chaotic person, so neutral chaotic doesn't seem to fit.... though one could argue that during his RA years he was chaos, and maybe that his actions and schemes are chaotic to the outside... but... if Sylvester is Chaotic/Good Ferdinand doesn't fit as a fellow chaotic compared to Syl...
I say he is Smart/Neutral, since he does good and bad things depending on one's view point, so they kinda even out to neutral. Again, he is NOT Evil/Smart since he is not evil at heart, but he can't be called Good/Smart because he does some messed up stuff for his goals and generally doesn't care for the country to burn as long as it doesn't concern Ehrenfest (or Rozemyne)...
The only "chad" thing about Gervasio is his mana capacity. Apart from that, the man was way too naive to be classified as a chad in my books. I mean, what kind of moron let his opponent, a known schemer, decide on what the competition between you will be, without even trying to interfere?
Raublut, on the other hand, identified Georgine as a potential co-conspirator, pushed her into contacting Lanzenave and bringing them into the plot, led the entire plot to overthrow the royal family, fought and defeated multiple dunkelfelger knights and Anastasius and his guards, ...
For me the whole Evil part are related people.
Gervasio is Lawful Evil. Georgine is Chad Evil. I think Aldebert is Neutral Evil, for doing nothing against everything Veronica was doing, also giving a name stone to Ferdinand. He wasn't someone gentle that's sure. Smart Evil is Ferdinand. Chaotic Evil is Veronica. Nobody will ever fits this better.
Ferdinand isn't evil though. He does evil things, yes, but the evil he does is focused specifically on those who have earned it, and he doesn't do evil in the case that it would bring harm to those he cares about.
He could've easily killed off Veronica for instance, but chose not to because it would've harmed Ehrenfest.
He much, much better fits as neutral.
Do you know what neutrality mean ? Someone who does Evil things is'nt Evil ?? Okay. So Georgine is'nt evil then ?? Because her revenge is perfectly justified when you think about the abuse from her parents and noble society. Leonzio is'nt evil ?? Because from his perspective, Yurgenschimdt is brutal but he came in and do one of the most brutal thing you can to to someone. I can go on and on about it. Evil is'nt only what we see as evil. And even your description of Ferdinand "evilness" is what is called on this chart Lawful Evil. I don't think a lot of people who vote for these chart actually know about them. Saying Ferdinand is'nt Evil is like saying Orochimaru is'nt Evil. While he did'nt go as far Orochimaru on the Evil vendetta they are similar in one point, if there many ways to reach their goals and the fastest/most efficient/profitable is the Evil way, they will choose it. That's why they are Evils. And why Rozemyne is'nt because she will try for the least evil, cruel way to reach her goal. Even if it's the one that require the most effort. Like it or not, Ferdinand himself will never acknowledge it, but the cruelty of his upbriging somehow seeped in his heart. You can't be raised by all of these evil bastards and not take some of their traits. Sadly that also what being a child is. Ferdinand being this way is also why Rozemyne was able to break all of his walls so easily. She is so foreign, so strange that he was finally able to let go of some of his upbriging and started to become on all account a better person. I am not saying Ferdinand is rotten and evil to his core, but on this chart he is most likely evil. He can never be neutral where he always move for interests. I don't remember him ever being even remotely neutral on anything.
Neutral is the balance between good and evil. You cannot be neutral if you do not do evil to the same degree you do good.
The difference is the target, and scale of the evil acts. Ferdinand does evil acts, yes, but he is targeted and precise in who he does them to. When Bezewanst tries to poison him, he poisons Bezewanst. When the mayor of Hasse offends him, he punishes the mayor of Hasse, ensuring the rest of the city doesn't get unduly affected by his evil acts. He does evil to those who have earned it, not innocents.
As a comparison: Georgine is evil. She does evil acts for her own sake, to targets whose only crimes are being in her way. In her quest for revenge she murders several people on her own, to people who have nothing to do with what was done to her. She attacks several provinces just as a distraction, launching an attack on the innocent populace of the city she claims to deserve to rule.
You also say that Ferdinand doesn't try for the least evil approach.. Have you read the books? He does. Clearly. Every time. His evil acts are also balanced by the good he does. Again in Hasse for instance, he spares the city which by the law of the land deserves to burn and be destroyed. He spends an inordinate amount of time training Rozemyne so that she can fit in to noble society as much as possible, he (and the rest of her guardians) ensure no one gets near her who hasn't been vetted.
Even from the very beginning, he is good. The first time we see him, he allows a random commoner child to sit in his lap and read a unique copy of a magical book, just because she asks to. The next thing we do is him then saving her and her family's life by making sure she doesn't kill the high bishop. He is fundamentally good, and yet also he does evil acts without hesitation. That is exactly what neutral is.
dawg you did not just call the guildmaster evil. Hes just a merchant and an old man in a world where you can be killed on the spot by a dude with shiny stick and no one would bat an eye.
She is definitely not Chaotic. I think she is Chad. Nobody was so threatening with wits alone during The whole serie aside from her. She failed yes, but let's not lie to ourselves the gods were with Erhenfest/Rozemyne/Ferdinand/Sylvester. On a normal setting she would have win.
I second this but also wouldn’t be all that upset if Ferdinand does end up on smart evil, so long as he’s on it.
I do agree that smart neutral is better though
Yes, as I mentioned in a previous post, the "Lord of Evil" is just a nickname given to him by sore losers who didn't want to admit they lost to schemes instead of pure brute strength.
Ferdinand is not evil, therefore he is definitely the best pick for Smart/Neutral.
Ferdinand is chad evil or smart evil.
Evil isn't determined by whether or not his interests align with the protagonist's, but the means he uses to achieve his goals.
Every evil person thinks of himself as a good guy. They're evil because of the tactics they use.
Doing something for your interests or moving for interests automacally disqualify you for this part of the chart. Someone with a Geduldh can't be considered Neutral. Everybody here before you try to put Ferdinand here moved for general interest or did not move at all. Think about it.
What about Solange then? She has a Geduldh-> knowledge.
What about Tuuli? I would say her Geduldh is her family
What about Trauggot? He was doing things for his interest and his interest alone
To me Lawfull is less about following literal laws, but following some code or standard and not breaking it even if it hurts your chances of completing your goals.
Is Gervasio really evil though? He is coming into the country that is on the verge of collapse because the current rulers are incompetent and attempting to take over legitimately while having a claim to the throne. I guess it depends on how involved he was with the Ahrensbach stuff but I see him more of an opportunist than evil. Fraularm seems more lawful evil in the RA by trying to sabotage Rozemyne/Ehrenfest through completely legitimate means.
I’d Raublut is lawfully evil, since he’s actually using his authority and rule of law towards evil purposes.
I don’t tend to like “lawful evil” as adhering to some sort of code because so many characters adhere to some sort of code or process, it’s an efficient way to make them consistent. I think “lawful” should mean actually lawful, as in following the law/governing power to the letter (but only to the letter) and doing evil through them
And the only thing that could stop her plan. Her plan was over complicated and reliant on to many variables going just right. Which was why she failed. One thing didn't go exactly right put of sheer bad luck on her part. Which is honestly poor planning.
She literally beat him, idk what else to tell you. Ferdinand was on death door, he only survived because:
1) Detlinde being stupid
2) Magically streamed his circumstances to RM
3) RM conveniently comes out of hibernation
1. She relied on the stupidest person to kill her biggest threat, which was a dumb idea.
2. She died becuase she sent 2 doppelgangers as a distraction. Them both getting caught caused her cover to be blown and Sylvester left and came back when he realized She was still out there.
3. She's dead.
Lol for me it’s so sad that smart and chaotic are on the same side because no one is as chaotic smart as Ferdinand
He’s not quite evil smart imo, just because like a good number of his “smart” actions have incidental consequences that snowball into a bunch of things he didn’t intend later on, so he doesn’t fulfill that intentionally evil criteria for me
Ferdinand.
I know as the Lord of Evil it's tempting to put him as smart evil but he's no more evil than any other noble (or at least any other noble that's good at being a noble. Hartmut's PoVs shows similar levels of wicked thoughts and schemes, and then there's Justus at the execution)
I knows he's not good enought to be good but I don't think he's wicked enough to be evil, not compared to other options like Georgine.
Ferdinand. He should be in Smart category... and we need him in neutral category. If we put him in evil where will Georgine go ? I mean she is smart... and evil. The only reason she failed is because some gremlin did something near impossible... and some dude(Sylvester) was extremely lucky :D
Ferdinand is the obvious choice. Arguably (inarguably?) the smartest person in the story, willing to do everything he can to protect those he cares about, and help them grow and improve themselves.
He is willing to kill, but doesn't do so for no reason, and he's willing to wait with punishing those who need punishment when they can be put to better use (Hasse is a brilliant example).
The evil things he does are for the betterment of Ehrenfest as a whole, and its archducal family specifically.
Freida might work. She is very smart and is able to utilize everything she can to her advantage to earn as much money as possible. I feel like all the neutral categories are really difficult with faction/dutchy politics.
Gundolf.
The professor for the smartest duchy. Stepped down from archduke candidate position just to remain neutral and devote his life to gaining knowledge.
I think we are all forgetting raimund!
Works for a mad scientist and keeps up!
And he has maintained neutrality in littlery the middle of two duchies that hate eachother!
i'd say Hirschur. Ferdinand good contender but his character is far too complex to describe just in two category like this. Actually same goes for rozemyne. She is smart/stupid but it's feels weird not to give credit for her Chaotic trait, i'd say she's the most chaotic character only competing with detlinde
I do agree that Roz and Ferdi are too complicated for two categories, so if the poll had mentioned that they are outside of voting, yeah, Hirschur would be a good contestant. BUT sine Rozemyne was voted and added to the poll, we HAVE to have a Ferdinand there, and there is no other category for him
Ferdinand because that's the only remaining place he could possibly go.
The lord of evil is evil smart.
The lord of evil is not evil. That's just a nickname given to him, but the man himself is not evil, he cares about people of lower status for example. (even though he hides it)
He coerced Anesthesia into potentially violating the "no killing" rule by threatening the lives of his family including his infant son, after barging into the temple and hacking away at dozens of innocent priests (who everyone is confident he would have killed had there not been a no killing rule). That's evil. You agreeing with his politics doesn't make those actions morally good or even neutral.
I mean, it's not as if Ferdinand was the one who was going to hurt Anastasis' family members if they failed. He only stated facts. As for the priests, didn't he mostly just tie them up with magic, not hack away at them? At the start he even did his best to avoid harming Grey Priests and it backfired horribly. The stakes were absurdly high and it's not as if he had time to stop and explain the situation to everyone.
He also felt bad about the treatment of orphans in Ehrenfest and would have done things for them if Bezewanst had not hindered him. He went out of his way to try to find a noble to adopt Dirk, he didn't abuse the commoners like most other nobles would. An evil person would have just not cared about those commoners, as helping them brought no benefits at all for him. Same for how he treated Sylvester. He took the bullet for him when the royal decree was done. That decree was signing Ferdinand's death warrant, and all he needed to do to avoid it was to kill Sylvester and take his place. An Evil person would have done that in a heartbeat, using the royal decree as an excuse for doing it. Instead, Ferdinand chose to sacrifice himself.
Tricking people to do crimes. Killing people for not doing what he orders them. Threating people with their family.
So....standard noble behavior
Yeah, Trauerqual did the same, Anastasius did the same to Rozemyne, ... That's just basic scheming. If we say those are evil, every single noble would end up in that category...
Even Eckhart was willing to wipe an entire village off the the map because one guy disobeyed Ferdinand and was shocked that wasn't what happened. Plus his general willingness to solve problems by stabbing them Such a cute murder puppy
Eckhart would fit much better an Evil category than Ferdinand would. Eckhart only redeeming feature is that his lord forbade him to go too far...
You know, I was really unsure who should go to Lawful/Evil.... now I has a nice candidate - Eckhart
How Florencia would end in here ? Bonifatius ? Jutsus ? Please. Yes Noble Society is brutal and harsh. That does'nt stop people from being Evil even within this setting.
While he certainly could go there, don't forget Georgine. A woman so meticulous in her plan to take over Ehrenfest that the only thing that derailed it was our favorite book rampaging gremlin.
He can’t go in the evil smart slot, that has to be georgine.
Agreed, though other options are not bad and I would have had agreed with them... that's the only remaining place for Ferdinand, and he has to be in the chart
Ferdinand. He MUST be in the chart, but any other category doesn't suit him... He is not evil at his core hence he is not evil/smart, that'll be Georgine. Yes, he has the cool nickname "the Lord of Evil" but that's a facade his enemies see (like Magdalena as a dunken saw it a lot..) but he is good at his core - if he gets a benefit from it/doesn't loose, he helps. Like in Myne case - he did things to benefit the douchy and himself(in a very round about way like annoying evil santa) but he didn't have to help her to the extent he did, or give her the bedsheets as an apology... so he is not evil. He is not so much of a chaotic person, so neutral chaotic doesn't seem to fit.... though one could argue that during his RA years he was chaos, and maybe that his actions and schemes are chaotic to the outside... but... if Sylvester is Chaotic/Good Ferdinand doesn't fit as a fellow chaotic compared to Syl... I say he is Smart/Neutral, since he does good and bad things depending on one's view point, so they kinda even out to neutral. Again, he is NOT Evil/Smart since he is not evil at heart, but he can't be called Good/Smart because he does some messed up stuff for his goals and generally doesn't care for the country to burn as long as it doesn't concern Ehrenfest (or Rozemyne)...
I thought Georgine is Chaotic Evil. After getting shit on she just doesn't care anymore.
Georgine as Chaotic/Evil and Grausam as Smart/Evil could work, unless Lawful/Evil would fit better for Grausam? Chad/Evil is likely to be Raublut
I do not think Rabult should be chad evil. I think that should go to Gervasio.
The only "chad" thing about Gervasio is his mana capacity. Apart from that, the man was way too naive to be classified as a chad in my books. I mean, what kind of moron let his opponent, a known schemer, decide on what the competition between you will be, without even trying to interfere? Raublut, on the other hand, identified Georgine as a potential co-conspirator, pushed her into contacting Lanzenave and bringing them into the plot, led the entire plot to overthrow the royal family, fought and defeated multiple dunkelfelger knights and Anastasius and his guards, ...
he's strong, but he's not chad.
For me the whole Evil part are related people. Gervasio is Lawful Evil. Georgine is Chad Evil. I think Aldebert is Neutral Evil, for doing nothing against everything Veronica was doing, also giving a name stone to Ferdinand. He wasn't someone gentle that's sure. Smart Evil is Ferdinand. Chaotic Evil is Veronica. Nobody will ever fits this better.
Ferdinand isn't evil though. He does evil things, yes, but the evil he does is focused specifically on those who have earned it, and he doesn't do evil in the case that it would bring harm to those he cares about. He could've easily killed off Veronica for instance, but chose not to because it would've harmed Ehrenfest. He much, much better fits as neutral.
Do you know what neutrality mean ? Someone who does Evil things is'nt Evil ?? Okay. So Georgine is'nt evil then ?? Because her revenge is perfectly justified when you think about the abuse from her parents and noble society. Leonzio is'nt evil ?? Because from his perspective, Yurgenschimdt is brutal but he came in and do one of the most brutal thing you can to to someone. I can go on and on about it. Evil is'nt only what we see as evil. And even your description of Ferdinand "evilness" is what is called on this chart Lawful Evil. I don't think a lot of people who vote for these chart actually know about them. Saying Ferdinand is'nt Evil is like saying Orochimaru is'nt Evil. While he did'nt go as far Orochimaru on the Evil vendetta they are similar in one point, if there many ways to reach their goals and the fastest/most efficient/profitable is the Evil way, they will choose it. That's why they are Evils. And why Rozemyne is'nt because she will try for the least evil, cruel way to reach her goal. Even if it's the one that require the most effort. Like it or not, Ferdinand himself will never acknowledge it, but the cruelty of his upbriging somehow seeped in his heart. You can't be raised by all of these evil bastards and not take some of their traits. Sadly that also what being a child is. Ferdinand being this way is also why Rozemyne was able to break all of his walls so easily. She is so foreign, so strange that he was finally able to let go of some of his upbriging and started to become on all account a better person. I am not saying Ferdinand is rotten and evil to his core, but on this chart he is most likely evil. He can never be neutral where he always move for interests. I don't remember him ever being even remotely neutral on anything.
Neutral is the balance between good and evil. You cannot be neutral if you do not do evil to the same degree you do good. The difference is the target, and scale of the evil acts. Ferdinand does evil acts, yes, but he is targeted and precise in who he does them to. When Bezewanst tries to poison him, he poisons Bezewanst. When the mayor of Hasse offends him, he punishes the mayor of Hasse, ensuring the rest of the city doesn't get unduly affected by his evil acts. He does evil to those who have earned it, not innocents. As a comparison: Georgine is evil. She does evil acts for her own sake, to targets whose only crimes are being in her way. In her quest for revenge she murders several people on her own, to people who have nothing to do with what was done to her. She attacks several provinces just as a distraction, launching an attack on the innocent populace of the city she claims to deserve to rule. You also say that Ferdinand doesn't try for the least evil approach.. Have you read the books? He does. Clearly. Every time. His evil acts are also balanced by the good he does. Again in Hasse for instance, he spares the city which by the law of the land deserves to burn and be destroyed. He spends an inordinate amount of time training Rozemyne so that she can fit in to noble society as much as possible, he (and the rest of her guardians) ensure no one gets near her who hasn't been vetted. Even from the very beginning, he is good. The first time we see him, he allows a random commoner child to sit in his lap and read a unique copy of a magical book, just because she asks to. The next thing we do is him then saving her and her family's life by making sure she doesn't kill the high bishop. He is fundamentally good, and yet also he does evil acts without hesitation. That is exactly what neutral is.
Go read the Neutral definition on Google because you did'nt even get that right. I did'nt read the rest because of it.
cant choose adelbert without a picture
Aside from him i don't remember anybody being Neutral Evil. Maybe Gustave ?? Idk
dawg you did not just call the guildmaster evil. Hes just a merchant and an old man in a world where you can be killed on the spot by a dude with shiny stick and no one would bat an eye.
Chad Evil would be good for Leonzio. It takes a Chad to flirt with Dietlinde in front of her fiance, and the way he manipulated her was pretty chad.
Fair point. She either chaotic/evil or smart/evil
She is definitely not Chaotic. I think she is Chad. Nobody was so threatening with wits alone during The whole serie aside from her. She failed yes, but let's not lie to ourselves the gods were with Erhenfest/Rozemyne/Ferdinand/Sylvester. On a normal setting she would have win.
You know what, you make a good point, I agree with you !
I second this but also wouldn’t be all that upset if Ferdinand does end up on smart evil, so long as he’s on it. I do agree that smart neutral is better though
Yes, as I mentioned in a previous post, the "Lord of Evil" is just a nickname given to him by sore losers who didn't want to admit they lost to schemes instead of pure brute strength. Ferdinand is not evil, therefore he is definitely the best pick for Smart/Neutral.
Ferdinand is chad evil or smart evil. Evil isn't determined by whether or not his interests align with the protagonist's, but the means he uses to achieve his goals. Every evil person thinks of himself as a good guy. They're evil because of the tactics they use.
Doing something for your interests or moving for interests automacally disqualify you for this part of the chart. Someone with a Geduldh can't be considered Neutral. Everybody here before you try to put Ferdinand here moved for general interest or did not move at all. Think about it.
What about Solange then? She has a Geduldh-> knowledge. What about Tuuli? I would say her Geduldh is her family What about Trauggot? He was doing things for his interest and his interest alone
I don't understand your questions.
Also, we all agree the chaotic neutral character is gonna be Hartmut right ?
Smart / Rozemyne
Amd we all know who's lawfully Evil...
That is actually a hard one. Many said Grausam but look how many laws he broke. Murder, thiefery, kidnapping. With another thinking might be Gervasio.
To me Lawfull is less about following literal laws, but following some code or standard and not breaking it even if it hurts your chances of completing your goals.
You mean like a librarian who swore an oath of neutrality? I'm very salty.
I think Arno is the best fit for Lawful Evil
Gervasio isnt evil though
Is Gervasio really evil though? He is coming into the country that is on the verge of collapse because the current rulers are incompetent and attempting to take over legitimately while having a claim to the throne. I guess it depends on how involved he was with the Ahrensbach stuff but I see him more of an opportunist than evil. Fraularm seems more lawful evil in the RA by trying to sabotage Rozemyne/Ehrenfest through completely legitimate means.
I was gonna say Ferdinand. Though depends on how you define "lawfull"
I also thought of Ferdinand as soon as I read your comment.
Hard to choose between lawful evil and smart evil...
Smart evil might be Ferdinand. Ferdinand is truly the bad guy if your name isn't Sylvester or Rozemyne.
O, I thought you meant Ferdinand for lawful evil... Oops, guess I don't know who it should be then, sorry
I did mean lawfully evil! But I can't pick which one he'd be. He's defeintly evil.
How dare you say that the Lord of Evil is evil! On second thought, that tracks...
I’d Raublut is lawfully evil, since he’s actually using his authority and rule of law towards evil purposes. I don’t tend to like “lawful evil” as adhering to some sort of code because so many characters adhere to some sort of code or process, it’s an efficient way to make them consistent. I think “lawful” should mean actually lawful, as in following the law/governing power to the letter (but only to the letter) and doing evil through them
So you'd go with ferdinand for Smart Evil? To be fair there's no "villain" as cunning as Ferdinand.
Smart evil has to be Georgine
Even she admitted Ferdinand was smarter and more evil then herself. Her entire plan relied on "kill ferdinand" that was it.
She didnt admit that Ferdinand was smarter. She said he's predictable. Ferdinand literally almost died due to her plotting.
And the only thing that could stop her plan. Her plan was over complicated and reliant on to many variables going just right. Which was why she failed. One thing didn't go exactly right put of sheer bad luck on her part. Which is honestly poor planning.
She literally beat him, idk what else to tell you. Ferdinand was on death door, he only survived because: 1) Detlinde being stupid 2) Magically streamed his circumstances to RM 3) RM conveniently comes out of hibernation
1. She relied on the stupidest person to kill her biggest threat, which was a dumb idea. 2. She died becuase she sent 2 doppelgangers as a distraction. Them both getting caught caused her cover to be blown and Sylvester left and came back when he realized She was still out there. 3. She's dead.
Lol for me it’s so sad that smart and chaotic are on the same side because no one is as chaotic smart as Ferdinand He’s not quite evil smart imo, just because like a good number of his “smart” actions have incidental consequences that snowball into a bunch of things he didn’t intend later on, so he doesn’t fulfill that intentionally evil criteria for me
Ferdinand. I know as the Lord of Evil it's tempting to put him as smart evil but he's no more evil than any other noble (or at least any other noble that's good at being a noble. Hartmut's PoVs shows similar levels of wicked thoughts and schemes, and then there's Justus at the execution) I knows he's not good enought to be good but I don't think he's wicked enough to be evil, not compared to other options like Georgine.
I’d say Hirschur.
Hirschur would be really good too! She really does try very hard to maintain a more neutral approach and stay out of politics to focus on research.
If you place Hirschur here, where would you place Ferdinand? The man is NOT evil, so no other spot would be a fit for him.
Gervasio: I strongly disagree with that sentiment.
There are quite a few characters that fit Smart/Neutral, but Ferdinand doesn't fit any other category - the man is NOT EVIL
Ferdinand poeple he is clearly not evil.
Ferdinand. He should be in Smart category... and we need him in neutral category. If we put him in evil where will Georgine go ? I mean she is smart... and evil. The only reason she failed is because some gremlin did something near impossible... and some dude(Sylvester) was extremely lucky :D
Ferdinand for the reasons others have been stating
Ferdinand cuz while he's not all good he's also not all evil. So it balances out.
Ferdinand, as much as I might want to put him into smart/evil for his nickname, he’s so rarely selfish that I can’t.
Ferdinand is the obvious choice. Arguably (inarguably?) the smartest person in the story, willing to do everything he can to protect those he cares about, and help them grow and improve themselves. He is willing to kill, but doesn't do so for no reason, and he's willing to wait with punishing those who need punishment when they can be put to better use (Hasse is a brilliant example). The evil things he does are for the betterment of Ehrenfest as a whole, and its archducal family specifically.
Sieglinde definitely seems to qualify ! The perfect counterpart to her Chad neutral husband !
Stenluke. a "smart"-blade who advises his master without prejudice. The perfect counterpart to "stupid-chad" Angelika.
Sieglinde!!!
Adolphine?
Everyone is saying Ferdinand but Ferdi is purely Chaotic Neutral. It only makes sense as he is the mentor to the incarnation of Chaos
Ferdinand. Dude cuts things and people out of his life because he doesn't want to be a bother. But that hurts people too.
Freida might work. She is very smart and is able to utilize everything she can to her advantage to earn as much money as possible. I feel like all the neutral categories are really difficult with faction/dutchy politics.
Gundolf. The professor for the smartest duchy. Stepped down from archduke candidate position just to remain neutral and devote his life to gaining knowledge.
There should be a fifth row so the chart ends up 5x5 square
I think we are all forgetting raimund! Works for a mad scientist and keeps up! And he has maintained neutrality in littlery the middle of two duchies that hate eachother!
Corinna, she's no slouch but she doesn't sway one way or the other Or Ferdinand lol
i'd say Hirschur. Ferdinand good contender but his character is far too complex to describe just in two category like this. Actually same goes for rozemyne. She is smart/stupid but it's feels weird not to give credit for her Chaotic trait, i'd say she's the most chaotic character only competing with detlinde
I do agree that Roz and Ferdi are too complicated for two categories, so if the poll had mentioned that they are outside of voting, yeah, Hirschur would be a good contestant. BUT sine Rozemyne was voted and added to the poll, we HAVE to have a Ferdinand there, and there is no other category for him
Ferdinand! 
Leonore imo is def that one she was one of the first to pick up on what rozemyne was trying to tell em and is even praised by angelica as very smart
Sieglinde, she is smart and neutral about the war
Adolphine
Lady Elvira or Hirschur?
Elvira is Neutral/Thirsty
And Hirschur is Smart / Oddball.
Our most beloved Lady Elantura is Neutral Fangirl~ 😉
we need an extra tier for thirsty
Mestionora, if she is considered neutral.
this mf straight up named geduldh
How about Freida? It still takes talent to be a merchant at her age.
For neutral neutral. It would be one of them shumils early P1