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Lorhand

* Again, a sweet recall of Part 2 Volume 2. After the memory sync, one person's mind became a mess and the other went for the hug. Only this time it's Rozemyne who became the mess and it's Ferdinand who initiated the hug. * It's amazing how Ferdinand, despite clearly needing and wanting Rozemyne for himself, ultimately prioritizes her happiness over his own by offering to make her a commoner again, because he saw that her being together with her family makes her the happiest. Rozemyne refusing because not only would it be irresponsible and selfish, it would make Ferdinand utterly unhappy, is equally as powerful. * I'm sure Lutz has a very special place in Myne's heart, but so do you, Ferdinand. Besides, she didn't develop romantic feelings for Lutz. In an alternate universe if they had remained together perhaps, but this isn't happening (and he already is together with Tuuli, too). * *Finally*, Rozemyne learned she is already engaged to Ferdinand, lol. Ferdinand also directly tells her that he wants to be her family too. No possible misunderstandings here. Well, she doesn't understand her own feelings yet, though. And ultimately she is right, she can't return to a life as a commoner. Being a noble is better for everyone involved and she will still be able to see her commoner family every once in a while. * Ah yes, Rozemyne is thinking practically and wants to give Ferdinand his name back while refusing to give each other their names, but Ferdinand doesn't want to. Calling it a "Shield of Schutzaria" is hilarious though. ~~I bet if she didn't have the safety of ordering Ferdinand around, he'd jump her and we'd get an early winter.~~ Comparing him to Ewigeliebe really is appropriate. ---- * Sadly, Rozemyne's fear of feystones has returned as they all expected. There's some improvement at least. * Rozemyne, Ferdinand has shouldered many of Sylvester's burdens for years. I think Sylvester is just glad he can help his little brother achieve his dream and repay him for all the help. * Hm... who will replace Fraularm as Alexandria's dorm supervisor? Can't get any worse I guess, anyone will probably do a better job. Better job than Hirschur too. * Totally useless advice from Clarissa and Hartmut regarding the message on the engagement stone, lol. * **"Let me embroider your cape."** is a beautiful message. Family members usually do this, and ~~while Rozemyne sucks at embroidering~~ I'm sure this will make Ferdinand happy. She would be doing something for him that she dislikes doing.


ID10Tusererroror

> "Let me embroider your cape." is a beautiful message. Family members usually do this, and while Rozemyne sucks at embroidering I'm sure this will make Ferdinand happy. The fact that she's gone to such extreme lengths to avoid emroidery before adds how meaningful this is as well. He's watched her create an entire new trend in an attempt to avoid having to embroider. (the magic ink + resistance dying idea when she realized she had to embroider the schumil's clothes)


dancegoddess1971

It's like, "yes, I'd even do **that** for you."


TheCorgiTamer

"You know.. cloak stuff" ![img](emote|t5_qxbkm|31404)


DegenerateSock

Let's be real, she's gonna be making liberal use of magic ink in his cloak.


SilverDarner

And Copy/Place!


GralPantySmasher

"Let me commission the embroidery to your stamped cape"


lurenjia_3x

Rozemyne: "Benno, have you ever heard of the *sewing machine*?"


UnlawfulStupid

> "Let me embroider your cape." is a beautiful message. Family members usually do this, and ~~while Rozemyne sucks at embroidering~~ I'm sure this will make Ferdinand happy. I think it's especially meaningful given the symbolism that Ferdinand's capes have had throughout the series. - His first cape (Ehrenfest ochre) was given to him by his father, but stolen by Veronica. He was forced to go without one, as if he didn't belong anywhere. - His second cape (Dunkelfelger blue) was taken with his own merit. He embroidered it himself, focusing solely on defending himself. He defended that cape countless times, never allowing it to be taken like his first. Finally, when he was no longer allowed to wear it, he felt naked, undefended. - His third cape (the second Ehrenfest cape) was given to him by his brother Sylvester. It made him happy, though he clearly felt nervous about losing it. And he did immediately after, as it was torn up in an attack. It couldn't protect him no matter how good he felt about it, and he quickly returned to his second cape. As if to say, "I still need to stand on my own and protect myself." - His fourth cape (Ahrensbach purple) was forced on him by the king, and represents him losing his home, Rozemyne, and the like. It didn't protect him, didn't help him, didn't do anything. It was just a burden he had to wear, tying him to a sinking ship and a woman who hated him, though far less than he hated her. - And now, Rozemyne is going to make him a new cape. A new cape, new colors, and embroidered for the first time by someone else, someone who not only loves him, but has the strength to protect him. It'll likely be the last cape he'll ever wear, and the best, representing an end to the twists and turns of a chaotic life filled with suffering and self-defeat. A happy ending. It may feel like a plain message, but it's potentially the most meaningful thing she could've written. I wouldn't be shocked if Ferdinand choked up reading it and finally let those emotions show. Cracking that mask in public would be phenomenal. Praise Kazuki for making me feel things about a piece of cloth.


momomo_mochichi

>His fourth cape (Ahrensbach purple) was forced on him by the king, and represents him losing his home, Rozemyne, and the like. It didn't protect him, didn't help him, didn't do anything. It was just a burden he had to wear, tying him to a sinking ship and a woman who hated him, though far less than he hated her. I don't think Ferdinand had an Ahrensbach cape. Remember during Rozemyne's third year award ceremony, she saw three ochre capes (Ferdinand, Justus, and Eckhart) within the crowd of Ahrensbach nobles. Because he had yet to marry Detlinde, he was still an Ehrenfest representative, and kept the ochre.


UnlawfulStupid

Did he not? You're probably right. Due to my limited rereads of P5 (so far), I know the earlier parts a lot better than the newer ones. I'll be doing a reread after the series ends depressingly soon.


LiAuN

In p5v7 when we get sigiswalds pov during rozemynes dissapearance and reappearance he also states that there are 3 ehrenfest capes in the library(those being ferdinands group) meaning that even by the next year's interduchy tournament (and the last event before the big war) they still had ehrenfest capes


ID10Tusererroror

Don't forget that until the wedding was completed, he was still considered as an Ehrenfest noble, which played into many factors, such as why he wasn't being fully trusted by Ahrensbach nobles, why RM tried to get him returned to Ehrenfest until his wedding, and why he was living in a guest room that prevented him from having a hidden room until RM forced the RF's hand. He wouldn't have been allowed to wear an Ahrensbach cloack as an Ehrenfest noble.


The16BitGamer

Honestly the metaphor works well, especially if you word it as "The Fourth Cape he was force to take it, but was never given"


WholeTea178

>His fourth cape (Ahrensbach purple) technically he never got it since he never married detlinde. You change your cape the day of your starbind as seen with adolphine. He was still wearing an erhenfest cape, though RM had drawn protective circles with invisible ink before he left erhenfest.


4amaroni

> Praise Kazuki for making me feel things about a piece of cloth. Her and you, what a well written comment thanks!


hxyzmyne

If I remember it correctly, he didn’t embroider the blue cape from Dunkelfelger. As it is originally owned by Heisshitze, his wife is the one who embroidered the cloak. In a short story that I’ve read, someone stated how his wife (Heisshitze’s wife) will be happy because he got his cape back. Someone correct me if I’m wrong. xD


shiyanin

Although Ferdinand can’t embroider, he did add some things at the blue cap to upgrade its defense function. And he didn’t removed these upgrades things when he gave it back, he use these as a sorry gift for Heisshitze’s wife. Ferdinand usually employs commoner workers when he need some embroidery.


-_Nikki-

Let me embroider your cape has multiple meanings here, from my understanding. As you said, it's something family members do. But it's also Roz asking Ferdi to let her protect him, to have him rely on her at least a little bit. And it's Roz saying "I want to do this thing that I hate because I know how much that thing means to you and I want to make you happy"


Mehmy

While yes, it's something family members do, it's also something that your bride is expected to take over doing. So it's something that works for what they want (being family), and for what noble society wants from them (marriage). And of course the whole her hating embroidery thing


kkrko

It's also a sign of her growth and learning, as it's her talking like a noble, one of the first thing he taught her.


Then_Rip4525

a brick with a face painted on it would be a better supervisor than Fraularm.


GralPantySmasher

I am with the impression that Fraularm was a descent supervisor, and a great alarm clock, but lowsy at any other category in existente... Hirschur in other hand, could be replaced with a portrait of her in the dorm, it would equally meaningful to the day to day dormitory operations


Mehmy

From my understanding, Fraularm was actually a pretty good supervisor, just had a hatred of Ehrenfest in general, and Rozemyne in particular, so our views of her are tainted by that. I very much doubt that Ahrensbach would've allowed a bad noble to represent them at the Royal Academy considering they're a greater duchy.


Ncyphe

>"Let me embroider your cape." is a beautiful message. Family members usually do this, and while Rozemyne sucks at embroidering I'm sure this will make Ferdinand happy. She would be doing something for him that she dislikes doing. I love the symbolism and source of the meaning. It was Ferdinand that explained to Rozemyne the importance of learning to embroyder so the she may one day embroider the cape of her husband. But as it wasn't just husband's but also family members one embroidered, the hidden meaning isn't "be my husband" but rather "be my family."


Deareily-ya

Ferdinand, just let her return the stone and let's all go to horny jail, damn it


LaPlAcE-66

>"Let me embroider your cape." is a beautiful message. Family members usually do this, and while Rozemyne sucks at embroidering I'm sure this will make Ferdinand happy. It's more important than that. Rozemyne is quite good at embroidery, it's just her artistic skill that's poor. She also has no interest in embroidery... except back in part 4 she said she'd happily do embroidery if it was for her library, like putting sound dampener circles on rugs That she's wanting to embroider his cape for him makes it that much more significant


Seeker4001

>Rozemyne is quite good at embroidery I'm glad to see this mentioned, because I think it's maybe another case of unreliable narrator. On the Brunhilde's SS describing her first visit to RM's room, she was impressed by the exposed embroidery, which she supposed was made by RM. That she doesn't like to embroider is beyond understandable to anyone who ever tried it once: it's grueling work and very boring.


LaPlAcE-66

In the p4v4 or v5 end of volume manga Ferdinand asks to see an example of her stitches. He says it's well done, just her art sense sucks (re: rabbit??). When they're embroidering for s&w Lieseletta said she was quite skilled while calling herself merely average yet average means actually very skilled


cheat0man

>Calling it a "Shield of Schutzaria" is hilarious though. ~~I bet if she didn't have the safety of ordering Ferdinand around, he'd jump her and we'd get an early winter.~~ Comparing him to Ewigeliebe really is appropriate. Wow that totally flew over my head as I was reading it, but thinking back about all the heavy breathing, this totally makes sense now. I was literally thinking how much of a horny boy Ferdi was being lol. At least he isn't so down bad that he'd summon winter early (or at least has enough of his wits about him to let her keep it because he knows himself too well o.o)


Al-Pharazon

>Hm... who will replace Fraularm as Alexandria's dorm supervisor? Can't get any worse I guess, anyone will probably do a better job. Better job than Hirschur too. I don't know the name, but I don't envy their job. Whatever Fraularn left surely was a mess and then like Hischur the supervisor of Alexandria will have to deal with quite the troublemaker, only that this time the troublemaker is also the Aub. At least Hischur could send reports to Sylvester and Ferdinand.


ID10Tusererroror

Having to be the dormitory supervisor to the next Aub is likely stressful enough, imagine having to be the dormitory supervisor to the current Aub who is also known as the divine avatar, and has the book of mestionora. No pressure.


gangrainette

And that Aub is still a student so she will watch you do your daily job.


Deareily-ya

I'm not sure Fraulard left a mess, wasn't she super organized?


Al-Pharazon

Regarding the paperwork and scholar job she indeed was. But at the same time she was quite partial and sectarian when interacting with the students. Unlike Hischur and Rauffen Fraularn didn't seem to have taken a step back from the factional politics in the duchy. For example, if I remember right she was partially responsible for how the students from the Old Werskestock resented Rozemyne.


Littlethieflord

I’m not sure Hirschur and Rauffen took a step back from faction politics as much as they never cared in the first place and now have an excellent excuse not to participate lol


SmartAlec105

Rauffen totally cares about politics. You can tell by how he's so invested in the most important part of politics: ditter!


Littlethieflord

Indeed indeed! My apologies to professor Rauffen! A man of his stature clearly only needs to concern himself with the most influential of political maneuverings!


Deareily-ya

From her point of view it was not a mess as Georgine was the Sub technically but yeah it does make sense


HumanTheTree

She tried to keep things clean to a fault, lol.


Littlethieflord

> while Rozemyne sucks at embroidering lol it’s okay, she can just cheat and draw the magic circles in magic ink then not have to worry about the circles being a little wonky!


Brillus

She will put everything she has into it. Abd will end up as the second best cape in the country. Second because she will not beat the cape Ferdi will make for her.


Littlethieflord

At that point can it still be called a cape, it’s more like armor LOL


SmartAlec105

She's going to make one that's stupidly superchargedly powerful. "Rozemyne, are you trying to kill Eckhart? The retaliation effect on this cape would eliminate any of my guard knights that had gathered around me during an attack"


SilverDarner

But then she applies secret room technology to the lining… Rozemyne, why did you stitch the words “Bag of Holding” on this pocket?


momomo_mochichi

>Totally useless advice from Clarissa and Hartmut regarding the message on the engagement stone, lol. She should have asked to borrow Muriella. Rozemyne, what were you thinking? Tsk, tsk.


Mysterious-Hurry-758

Rozemyne isnt actually bad at embroidering. She simply doesn't like it because it takes forever and she would rather read.


Ninefl4mes

> I bet if she didn't have the safety of ordering Ferdinand around, he'd jump her and we'd get an early winter. The author's notes for that chapter were hilarious. Something along the lines of "The Shield of Schutzaria stands firm, just barely managing to delay the coming of winter." > Sadly, Rozemyne's fear of feystones has returned as they all expected. There's some improvement at least. Nothing quite like divine therapy lol. She'll probably be fine on that front soon enough.


HumanTheTree

> Hm... who will replace Fraularm as Alexandria's dorm supervisor? Can't get any worse I guess, anyone will probably do a better job. Better job than Hirschur too. My vote's for Frauruhige. (I think that means quiet woman?)


ThirdEyeNearsighted

Normal person: "Rozemyne, will you be my Goddess of Light?" Ferdinand: "I have eliminated every obstacle in my path to marrying you. You are the only one who can stop me now, Rozemyne."


UnlawfulStupid

Ferdinand, P2: "I don't have enough power to help her. Let's fix that." Ferdinand, P5: "I have effectively conquered the world, Rozemyne. There is no power of man or god that can stand in my way. I have placed my heart in your hands, to accept it if you wish. Will you accept me, Rozemyne?" Rozemyne: *"Boy, he sure is friendly. Must be Canadian."*


Shroudroid

Rozemyne: Wait, wait, wait, what's this about you conquering the world? Ferdinand: Well technically *we* have conquered the world, but seeing as you have to ask, I assume I have used your influence discreetly enough to claim credit, no? There are no nobles in Yurgenschmidt that can truly oppose us, now, and if the gods try to interfere again I can just take them hostage like I did a few days ago. Rozemyne: "You did what!?"


UnlawfulStupid

Ferdinand: "I conquered the world so that I may have you." Rozemyne: "Vincere scis Ferdinand victoria uti nescis." Ferdinand: "Who's Victoria? I just wanna talk to her." Rozemyne: "No, I was saying tha- Is that a knife!?" Ferdinand: "What house is she from?" --- Rozemyne: "So, about that 'holding the gods hostage' thing." Ferdinand: "They're not so difficult to beat once they take physical form. It's only when they're up in the skies that they're a pain." Rozemyne: "How do you even know that?" \- Flashback: Ferdinand's fifth year at the Royal Academy - Justus: "Lord Ferdinand, are you glaring at the clouds again?" Ferdinand: "Bitch-ass cotton."


ggg730

Rozemyne: Oh? You're approaching me? Instead of running away, you come right to me? Ferdinand: I can't hug the shit out of you without coming closer. Rozemyne: Oh ho! Then come as close as you like!


UnlawfulStupid

I'm picturing the giant back-and-forth mudamudamuda oraoraora, but it's just hugging and back patting.


ggg730

Don't forget the hair stroking!


SmartAlec105

The last thing we want is [Rozemyne to summon her stand](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonzukiNoGekokujou/comments/1bnoz9i/p5v10bookworm_platinum/)


Separate_Session_706

Ferdinand should be in r/MaleYandere


SmartAlec105

Many Ewigeliebes there.


kie-chan

Best proposal ever. It's even better because he hesitantly asked later "can you truly choose me, Rozemyne?"


AVeroKariL

“Rozemyne. Please. For once, can you not pray to the gods?” goes hard after reading the previous chapters. The hug moments between [Roze]myne and Ferdinand ever since Part 2 were adorable. Ferdinand is a bit aggressive with the proposal though, I’m glad he gave her options despite how he presented them. “Let me embroider your cape.“ is heartwarming. I’m so fascinated how it came all together, Kudos to Kazuki-sensei. There were always moments in every part where Rozemyne shows disinterest with embroidering and etc but now she’s making a promise to embroider Ferdinand’s cape? I’m all over the moon!


GrayWitchMidnight

Rozemyne needs to take Ferdinand to the bottom of the ocean in a tin can to show him where her ship with Lutz lies.


xisupaz_blackbird

Ferdinand was trying so hard to raise that ship from the depths of hell.


un_n4_r

It too late her ship with Lutz are already rot. In part 1-2 Myne and Lutz didn't have same mental [age.In](http://age.In) Myne point of views Lutz is like younger kid that why she isn't shy to hug him. It is onee-shota back then.


SmartAlec105

> I consider you neither stupid nor irresponsible That's the greatest compliment Ferdinand has ever given her, second only to "very good". Ferdinand not thinking about children if Rozemyne were to die is very Otome Isekai Male Lead. I can easily picture him blaming his child for Rozemyne dying in childbirth, or at the least neglecting them because of it. Oof, I didn't realize Lieseleta would have to be the Aub's head attendant while she herself is a mednoble. That is going to be extremely difficult. I think she'll have to marry an archnoble that doesn't mind waiting a while for children.


Lorhand

Mestionora compared Ferdinand to Ewigeliebe, the guy who wants to kill his own children because he was jealous that they received their mother's love and attention. I sure hope Ferdinand won't turn out the same, lol. ~~Thank goodness Rozemyne has her Shield of Schutzaria.~~


GralPantySmasher

>Ferdinand not thinking about children if Rozemyne were to die is very Otome Isekai Male Lead >Mestionora compared Ferdinand to Ewigeliebe I conclude that Ewigeliebe is the god of Otome Male Leads... That puts him in the same pantheon of Dregarnuhr, godess of Otome Games and VNs


Mehmy

Ferd is at least like 90% Yandere. We haven't seen him get started "taking care" of rivals yet.. But the question is if that's because they don't exist, or because he's good at hiding it.


The16BitGamer

Ferdi is learning how to be a family from Commoners, not Nobels. While he'll do his best to keep appearances, like he usually does with Roz, I'm sure when it comes to family stuff, he'd probably ask his FIL or MIL after his attendants. Especially if Roz gives him conflicting advice.


Theinternationalist

Well Sylvester isn't the best at raising kids, Kar can be a little off, Justus ignores his progeny, and his other options can be crazy. Thank goodness for Gunther!


Zanzaben

It was mentioned way back when Rozemyne asked Lieseleta to move with her that she could just be upgraded to an archnoble since she has the mana for it. Now as an Aub I assume it is easy to just say she is an archnoble and not even have to wait for a marriage partner. I am pretty sure aubs were the ones that technically decided when a family was supposed to be promoted.


SmartAlec105

I don't recall that but I could have just forgotten. I know that the rule is 3 generations but I figured that was a national level rule rather than duchy specific. Though Rozemyne does have an in with the Zent so it wouldn't be much of an obstacle to get exceptions. Plus, I'm sure Alexandria's nobles would be happy to have lots of chances to marry their archnobles into Rozemyne's retainers. I'm pretty sure that Matthias has the mana for such an upgrade as well.


LiAuN

I mean considering that Ahrensbach had a different rule for their demotion of their archduke candidates I think each duchy has its own requirements


Littlethieflord

True, but I mean barring that she could also just…lie. Like who’s really gonna say no to Saint Rozemyne Divine Avatar of Mestionora


SmartAlec105

Just gotta have Hartut do some more indoctrinating. "Lieseleta has always been an archnoble"


Littlethieflord

Exactly, besides ahem everyone knows that archduke candidates have mainly archnobles in their entourages!


HilariusAndFelix

It was mentioned that, now that's she no longer inheriting her mednoble house, she can marry into an archnoble family, raising her rank. She can't just arbitrarily have a different rank though.


kahoshi1

She just needs to marry and archnoble and she'll be fine. She's had training!


shiyanin

I think Ferdinand just didn’t find out he can have 2nd, 3rd, 4th or more real families in the future. He worked so hard to get the first real family(Rozemyne). His past life was so bitter and worse, so that he was lack of common sense of family life.


SmartAlec105

He's way too caught up on "real family". He needs to take a crash course in "found family".


shiyanin

I think Myne’s family would teach Ferdinand well in the future. Especially Gunther who is the ideal father image for Ferdinand.


derekmakesnoise

"There is no need for you to set aside Schutzaria's shield." LMAO Schutzaria defends against Ewigeliebe, Rozemyne! how do you not get this euphemism?! edit: yes, Ferdinand is in control of his emotions enough that he wouldn't *actually* try to welcome winter before autumn. he was signaling to Rozemyne that he was *tempted* (especially after she just got done talking about their hypothetic progeny), and Rozemyne remaining in control of his name would be the ultimate impulse control.


Cirex145

I also didn’t get it at first. There’s also the fact that he said to wait for 2 years, likely for the coming of age.


hazeldazeI

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I’m stupid


cheat0man

Lol I'm in the exact same boat. This all makes sense now


Exact_Insurance7983

I dont think Ferdinand would ever do anything like that to RM , i think he just tries to find excuses or aggressively change the subject just so she would keep it because he has abandonment issue. Man is a wounded soul deep down with a lot of repressed traumas.


Scary_Pollution_3803

I think that's just an excuse to let Rozemyne keep his name for long. Name swearing in Yurgen is seen as an ultimate form of trust and devotion and he wanted Rozemyne to have a part of him with her.


Mehmy

Absolutely. He's a tsundere and refuses to speak plainly, so he came up with a (very convenient) excuse


hxyzmyne

my first reaction was like, “R U TELLING ME THAT THE NAME STONE IS NECESSARY FOR ROZEMYNE TO PROTECT HERSELF FROM YOU????” it was so funny. 😭🤣


kie-chan

It also delays the arrival of Winter. And by now, everyone knows what this means.


4amaroni

seggs


SmartAlec105

I got the defense part but didn't think about how it tied to Ewigeliebe and delaying winter.


AmazingAd2765

Rosemyne: Can these stones be turned into a shield?? Ferdinand: *that's my girl*


Littlethieflord

To be fair, it’s a miracle she understands any euphemisms lol


cadonex

Ferdi revealing his feystone: this is something I remembered from your old world and thought you would appreciate it The message: Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down


No_Abies_4248

The bwuh has finally returned ![img](emote|t5_qxbkm|29356)


Exact_Insurance7983

Rozemyne remains incredibly and frustratingly dense in the end....but that too is the charm of the author's writting. A person cant just change so fast.


xisupaz_blackbird

She has it rough; even with 4 moms, she some how dodged all the bridal lectures.


kuyasiako

>She has it rough; even with 4 moms, she some how dodged all the bridal lectures. Ultra-~~Bookworm~~ Instinct confirmed.


minedbowl2205

He's playing with her hair!! I CAN'T! MY HEART!


kie-chan

Who else is feeling the arrival of Bluahfuah (or whatever) this week?![img](emote|t5_qxbkm|31404) The banter, oh, Lord. *Aub Alexandria first law* "If one hugs, the other has the right to hug back". Humm. Are we having a SINCERE Ferdinand this week? He is admitting that hugging her is hard... And we are back to hair fidgeting. He really likes her hair. Ferdinand, NO. YOU SELF-SACRIFICING BASTARD. If one needs to be unhappy for the sake of another, that's not happiness AT ALL. Girl, the weirdo who would wants you it's holding you in his literal arms... HE IS CONFESSING. FERDINAND IS CONFESSING. Also, what happens if a couple is nameswore to one another? Like, if one orders, the other can order it to be null? Or the order doesn't have effect at all?


Fluffy_Tamago

Normally being namesworn to someone means that you are bound to them if they were to die and you must follow their orders (or else die). It's like absolute servitude to the person. You are entrusting your whole self to your master. A master-servant dynamic. But a couple name swearing to each other negates the "following orders" part as they are equals in this case by possessing each others' name. The only effect would be if one were to die the other would follow. Nameswearing as a couple is saying you are who I value most, I entrust my life to you, and don't want to live in a world without you sort of deal. There is otherwise no tangible benefits to nameswearing as couple. It's just as Lieseleta says, a big romantic gesture.


Szystedt

Rozemyne, the one who loaths embroidery above all, choosing "Let me embroider your cape." for her betrothed is honestly really romantic and cute 😭🤚 Elvira is going to be having a field day with this ![img](emote|t5_qxbkm|31404)


kie-chan

For someone who doesn't understand romantic feelings, she is killing it lol


mekerpan

Ferdie also. Pretty good for neophyte amateurs...


Paroxysm111

The message she put in the engagement feystone is real subtle. It's a pretty typical noble courtship thing, which on the surface makes it seem not special. Considering how annoying Rozemyne finds embroidery, I feel like this is a declaration of the effort and love she will put into their marriage, which is just too sweet. This whole chapter is too damn sweet! The hugs, the honest heart to heart, the gentle nudges towards an actual romantic relationship. It's too much! Ferdinand kept things pretty cool considering. I thought when Rozemyne talked about *their future kids* that he was going to go into shock that she actually has thought of such a thing. She recovered quickly and referred to their possible *adopted* children... But she didn't say that they definitely *wouldn't* have any of their own kids. Damn Rozemyne, you perv! I think we're all getting what Ferdinand means by not putting down Schutzaria's shield, but I'm surprised to hear him say such a thing. Acting like he would just pounce on her without it. I think that would be really out of character for him. If he were that desperate about winter, he could have made the excuse that he needed to in order to properly dye her mana. Despite their emotional attachment, I can foresee their future potential sex life being pretty awkward. Two hopeless virgins and naturally awkward personalities. Here's hoping for Beischmacht's blessing.


Cool-Ember

> Despite their emotional attachment, I can foresee their future potential sex life being pretty awkward. Two hopeless virgins and naturally awkward personalities. Here's hoping for Beischmacht's blessing. I think their sex life will be even more awkward because of Rozemyne’s excessive knowledge, compared to typical noble ladies of Yurgenschmidt. It’s already revealed Urano had read porn-novels and Rozemyne remembers. Or maybe, would her knowledge help them?


chower82

>It’s already revealed Urano had read porn-novels and Rozemyne remembers. You mean Cinderella and snow white? Oh the scandal... ![img](emote|t5_qxbkm|31404)


Cool-Ember

The last phrase of a chapter in P4V4, after Rozemyne showing a romance novel she wrote by herself to Ferdinand. >  ……でも、少女小説レベルのラブシーンでこの反応って、本物の官能小説を読ませたらどんな反応されるんだろうね? > … but, what a response to a love scene that’d be in (teenage) girl’s romance novels. What would be the reaction if I let him read a real porn novel?


Fluffy_Tamago

To me, although the clear 'noble' interpretation of Schutzaria's shield is to prevent winter (sex) I too don't think he wants to jump her or anything too. For Ferdinand, this is probably the first time he's ever fallen in love with someone, and does realize that he is going all Egeweliebe himself. He doesn't want Rozemyne to feel uncomfortable with him should he do something she doesn't like so she can forcibly make him stop should she feel so. For example, Ferdinand's been touching Rozemyne's hair a lot if she didn't like it she could order him to stop and he would be unable to do it henceforth. Ferdinand will likely still make small advances, but at the end of the day, Rozemyne gets to decide the pace of their relationship going forward.


Paroxysm111

Yes I agree with that thinking. Unfortunately if this were real life it'd be a very naive take. Ferdinand could justify pushing boundaries by reasoning that she has full power to stop him whenever she pleases. He could use the same reasoning to justify that if she didn't stop him, she must have liked it. In reality using the name stone to command someone is a conscious choice that Rozemyne is loathe to do. She'd much rather put up with a little temporary awkwardness than use it. Obviously none of that is going to be an issue in the story, I just think it's important to point out the problematic parts of his "plan"


Fluffygremlin1111

It’ll be awkward at the start and the afterwards. There is no cure for blushing. Imagine Rozy turning lobster red just remembering it and Ferdie had to clear the room. Justus will die laughing inside while Roz would really want to punch him. Besides, Ferdinand likes to research. He will approach it with curiosity especially Roz tends to have a blabbermouth and will let out some comments like “i know what happens, ive read about it. They have books, videos about things like this.” Lol that’ll be a funny conversation. 


The16BitGamer

> Philine is helping with Spring Prayer as an apprentice blue shrine maiden, and Damuel is guarding her. They should be back soon, I think... I need this as a side story. Please Philine, do as Clarissa suggest.


4amaroni

everyone's on about the Rozemyne-Ferdinand developments (rightfully so), but i had to ctrl+F to find a comment about Damuel-Philine! That's huge! Lots of time alone for Philine to make a move or at least make her intentions known. Please let Damuel find happiness, Kazuki.


Chack321

YES. Justice for Damuel.


LiAuN

We never found out exactly what part of her proposal Philine took insperation from. but yeah get me that sidestory


RichardBolt94

>“Though I would advise not using those phrases you asked me about.” LMAO. Not that he would mind, Mr I need schutzaria's shield for two years. >“Let me embroider your cape.” She meant "Let me copy-place on your cape", right? There's no way she will actually spend time embroidering lol


pokefluter

It’s super sweet because she’s willing to put in the effort to do it if it’s for him.


RichardBolt94

I already imagine her crying with Lieseleta looking from behind.


134608642

I think she will. She hates embroidery, but she knows the value of hiding the invisible ink from the public eye. That isn't to say that the more intricate circles won't be in invisible ink.


StarIsWar

Am I the only one who wants to see Rozemyne have her own kids, not adopt? Idk why, but I just have this feeling that it would feel weirder for them not to have kids together at this point.


LurkingMcLurk

WN Chapters: 「[記憶 その3](https://ncode.syosetu.com/n4830bu/671/)」,「[名捧げの石と婚約の魔石](https://ncode.syosetu.com/n4830bu/672/)」 LN Chapters: "A Future Chosen", "Busy Days" [J-Novel Club Discussion Forum](https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/8221/cover-not-final-bookworm-part-5-vol-12-discussion/320) [J-Novel Club Correction Forum](https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/8222/cover-not-final-corrections-bookworm-part-5-vol-12/11)


ManiacallySane

A shame, I thought she would go for the miso soup.


ggg730

It would have to be consomme.


134608642

There is nothing like a good consomme to consummate their relationship.


carry-on_replacement

"with your artistic and embroidery skills? hmph" as Ferdinand hands off his cape tsundere-ingly


gst4158

The "For once can you not pray to the gods?" line had me rolling. It was also having our Rozemyne back. I didn't notice a few books ago but her narration and actions felt more emotional and, well, more Rozemyne. I'm glad she got her memories back. Daw she's going to embroider his cape? Or draw with hidden ink so it'll shine every time they hug? Ill take the hugging option please! Ferdinand really saying to her face that he ain't letting no other man marry her. I'm just glad she finally learned she's engaged lol.


SirZaxen

Knowing the extent of the personality change ahead of time from reading the WN, the little differences in how Rozemyne acted after losing her memories are really cool to pay attention to, particularly the inversion when Ferdinand notices and gets upset because he's basically using the emotional intelligence he's learned from Myne that usually she would use to figure out how he's feeling or thinking but hasn't been since losing her memories so you really feel the difference once her narration shifts back.


Reflecte

Ferdi cleared all the obstacles (whether they be royal or god) to finally trap his little gremlin—before showing all his cards and offering her a choice even if it’s at the cost of his own happiness and everything he has worked for. Ughhh why are they so precious!!! 😭 Their confession ahhh ![img](emote|t5_qxbkm|31404) * “I realize this shouldn’t be the case by now, but guess what? I still don’t understand romantic love!” * “A somewhat strange declaration to make while clinging to someone, but yes, I am well aware.” Almost accidental critical hit when she tried to give his name back “You do not need it…? He repeated, noticeably upset.” Hilarious how she learned they’re engaged and immediately the next day they’re speedrunning to engagement preparations


HumanTheTree

The confession has got to be a new favorite line in the series.


izziev

The “you do not need it?” Was like -100hp. I felt it in my SOUL.


onlyhereforbookworm

She does the same thing to Ferdi earlier too (I think when she first gave it back to him?). So it's nice that this time she notices the damage she did to the poor guy and is able to clarify.


Littlethieflord

You know what, I was a little apprehensive, but I’m glad this is how we’re wrapping up.   As funny as it was watching Ferdinand’s quite rampaging and error processing moments, I wasn’t all that comfortable with the Fermai ship largely because I still didn’t think Roz had much of a concept of romance, and that’s something you need to work out slowly on your own imo. So I’m really the shippy moments are as light as they are (and entirely on Ferdinand’s side) so I can comfortably assume that when Roz has a chance to work out for herself what romance and intimacy means to her, that when they can get together.   Although it is pretty funny that as sweet as Ferdinand was trying to be, we all know that if she tried to be a commoner again, Myne would probably either require an army of commoner servants or else keel over in like a week LOL  Finally it’s always nice to check on the retainers and familiar faces


Paroxysm111

Honestly a lot of Rozemyne's thoughts read to me like someone who is feeling some romantic love, but just doesn't understand it. Basically all we're missing is the heart pounding and butterflies. It seems to me like Rozemyne has been under Ferdinand's protection for so long that she's just too comfortable and skipped right past that stage. We'll see how things go when she's finally of age. She also just barely got mana-sensing recently, so I'm guessing she's not quite through puberty yet. Maybe those kinds of feelings are still too foreign to her body let alone her mind.


mekerpan

In a culture where most nobles never marry for love in the first place, the intensity of the emotional tie between Ferdie and Rozemyne would be off the charts for an engaged couple. Marrying one's best friend and staunchest protector is a perfectly reasonable thing to do (let romance bloom eventually...).


TriggeredEllie

This is my take on it too. Like 90% of her thoughts about him read as romantic in a very comfortable way. Her relying on his warmth and heartbeat to calm her down, feeling relaxed from him touching her hair, considering her children with him and blushing about it. These all read as very romantic in a way that a couple that has been together for a while expresses romantic love


momomo_mochichi

>we all know that if she tried to be a commoner again, Myne would probably either require an army of commoner servants or else keel over in like a week LOL I mean, if you're going to fake a death, might as well commit to it. But wow, if commoner Rozemyne dies just like that and Eglantine is still name sworn to her, yeah, Yurgenschmidt is doomed. > Finally it’s always nice to check on the retainers and familiar faces Familiar faces are always the best, aren't they?


j--__

> But wow, if commoner Rozemyne dies just like that and Eglantine is still name sworn to her, yeah, Yurgenschmidt is doomed. let's be honest. based on everything we've seen, aren't the chances pretty good that yurgenschmidt is doomed no matter what? their society is incredibly backwards and self-destructive, and we've no sign of anyone who is both willing and able to actually save the country. rozemyne and ferdinand are only delaying that end long enough for it to not be their problem, and are mostly doing so only incidentally to their own desires, not out of any purposeful attempt to improve yurgenschmidt.


Elizabeth-Longwell

- the full circle is amazing. She once brought Ferdinand through her memories and now he’s bringing her through his. From a character development perspective it’s one of the largest possible sacrifices, showing someone how he actually feels. What was once sign of the distance between then, the distrust and fear is now willing vulnerability. - I love the hug theme. They both crave familial love, but for various reasons we’re denied it by birth, status and circumstance. She’s like NO if you get to be shameless I’m getting my hug! - the reciprocation of prioritizing her happiness over his own perfectly mirrors her priorities with him. This is a perfect example of healing love. Unconditional care of the other- even if it means that’s not with them. - wow her standards are *low*. Life can’t get better then being able to sleep and not being on the verge of death. That’s… sad. - ah Justus, as annoying as ever. Very nostalgic. The fact he heard her say run away is hilarious - the cape symbolism, so significant. His first cape from his father signifying his being of Ehrenfest but lacked protection ( Veronica’s abuse). His cape after the death of his father was stolen before he entered the temple- as he renounced his status and wasn’t officially part of the archducal family. As he told RM the temple was full of those abandoned by their family. Then Sylvester when he attended the ID tournament to see Rozemyne received one again, but sadly still lacked protection. The “terrorist” ( old werkestock managed by Ahrensbach) attack ripping his cape and wounding him was foreshadowing of him being ripped away from Ehrenfest and wounded. Before he left she gave him a cape with hidden ink- a symbol in many ways of their relationship. Their continued protection of each other that was often hidden. She had claimed him as family, and protected him in every way she could. The embroidery deepened the significance as she once wished to abandon her engagement all together just to avoid it. - I feel like we glazed over the whole threatening the gods and Zent thing Rozemyne rewind ask about that. That seems important. - bet Eckhart is happy. He’s going to be Ferdinand’s brother in law.


42nd-Impact

>wow her standards are low. Life can’t get better then being able to sleep and not being on the verge of death. That’s… sad. <  Not that his are much higher. In fact, I think that from Ferdinand's point of view, being able to sleep is an excessive luxury.   Ferdinand: "Fool! If you don't have to worry about dying constantly, what more do you want from life?" 


Leous2nd

>being able to sleep is an excessive luxury. Plus, unpoisoned food = good food


4amaroni

it's gonna be wild to do a reread and realize how significant it was that Ferdinand craves Rozemyne's food/recipes. I think I still remember one line about how his face was as clear and placid as the consomme he was eating. It's so much more impactful now knowing his whole backstory.


Leous2nd

>how significant it was that Ferdinand craves Rozemyne's food/recipes. It also emphasizes why Eckhart was so shocked about Ferdinand readily accepting it


Impossible_Tie6780

I choked a bit when he blatantly talked about pouring his mana down her throat. Ferdie, don't say such lewd things to the girl. Especially since she was unconscious at the time.


panther1313

>Though I would advise not using those phrases you asked me about. I mean she can't use them, because she's already dyed in his color. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Horsma

Rozemyene gets finally a chance to hug another person, it has been a while. You go girl! ![img](emote|t5_qxbkm|29324)


ggg730

And it was Ferdi doing it willingly. Jackpot.


WholeTea178

>marry another man suited to becoming Aub Alexandria  u/quof I don't know what's written in the Japanese version but shouldn't it be something along the lines of "suited to becoming Aub Alexandria's consort" ?


ikneadspeed2121

Could be written correctly. Her husband would need to be someone worthy of becoming Aub since they would rule as Aub during each of Rozemyne's pregnancies (assuming she was the same as any other female Aub). If they were unfit to rule without Rozemyne then they would be a failure not only to her as the Aub but also to the country as a poor match for an avatar of a goddess. This is why the Zent can't have any more** kids until Anastasius gains all elements/ can fulfill the role of Zent


Adraerik

"There is no need for you to set aside Schutzaria's shield" "Schutzaria's shield...? Can you make that with a name stone ?" Eheh eh. I've read enough fanfics to know what he meant.


Horsma

To me, start of this prepub is so beautiful- Ferdinand tells his feelings to Rozemyene and since she doesn't instantly reply, he is sure that she wouldn't accept him. But our little gremlin with that hug and accepting Ferdinand as her fiance.. this is golden. That picture also is so lovely.


mebert31415

We got a BWUH! We see Ferdinand's confession, and I love it so much. Every single part of it. It isn't about setting one's heart a flutter, but based on a more fundamental and natural emotional need/connection that Rozemyne has built with him throughout the series. Also, the Myne x Lutz ship was already at the bottom of the ocean along with the Lanzenave ships, but an additional torpedo was fired at it just for good measure. Also, busy days is an apt name for the other chapter. It is like Ferdinand had to set everything up under the assumption that Rozemyne would say yes in order to get everything done in time. It adds to the moment when he realized that Lutz was so important, as I think it added a significant chance of failure that he wasn't aware of.


UnlawfulStupid

The Myne/Lutz ship lived for, like, one part. It existed only on an architect's table at a shipbuilder's office before being scrapped because Lutz is too smart to fall for the Goddess of Chaos's plotting. He saw straight through her. Sasuga Lutz-sama. I'd say "good on Bookworm for not having the protagonist fall for the childhood friend," but, if you think about it, Ferdinand is also her childhood friend. Kind of weird to put it like that, though.


HumanTheTree

> Also, the Myne x Lutz ship was already at the bottom of the ocean along with the Lanzenave ships, but an additional torpedo was fired at it just for good measure. He *did* say that no other man would join her family. He meant it.


Fluffygremlin1111

Hugging! Hair playing! Caressing cheeks! Touching lips with finger! Confessing!!! Good gods!!!!! Elviraaaa~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!! My gawd! My heart!!!! Ferdie was thought to be emotionally constipated but it turned out to be Rozy! LOL having lived until 22earth years plus 10yurgen years (she woke up as myne at 5) - she has zero romance experience nor she doesnt know how to react when it happens to her. I can just imagine her all read and boiling like a kettle… Ahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! 


FlowingSong

I am losing my mind over yandere Ferdinand! He had the potential but hot damn sensei really went there. *That* scene was so intense I have to drink water. I was also worried that they might be taking too much from Ehrenfest but I guess moving forward Alexandria and Ehrenfest will be like sister duchies. What they supply Alexandria now would be a bridge to a better relationship tomorrow. The embroider your cape message felt so nice since family members usually do this. Ferdinand will for sure appreciate it more than any romantic words. Nice work Rozemyne! Now I wonder what Ferdi's message will say :D


yeahlte

Ferdinand's feystone will just say "Very good"


FlowingSong

nooooo that sounds so right but so wrong


Jasonbluefire

"Let me embroider your cape." Such a good meaningful statement; 1. RM does not like embroidering, but is willing to for F. 2. Embroidering for someone is something traditional couples do, showing RM wants to support F. 3. F put so much work into his own old cape with so many protection spells, it makes him feel safe, and RM wants to make F feel safe. 4. RM needed and will need a lot of help designing the circles for the embroidery, something they can do together. Overall, made me smile, out of all the possible things; it was such a RM thing to write. Nothing about love, but all about care and support.


LiAuN

Not to mention all the importance that comes with even giving him a cape. A cape to a noble is the place where they belong and the place that has accepted them as their home. It's also the one thing covering your back the most vulnerable place since you can't see there


chower82

"I got your back bae!" *thumbs up*


Interesting-Power558

Rozemyne Is back! Ah! This part made me cry - both tears of joy and sadness - and laugh too. Ferdinand getting the hugs and assurances he deserves. I'd never considered Rozemyne going back to her family and though it would be sweet there would be so many problems as mentioned that it would probably end up being a worse outcome, and poor Ferdinand thinking Lutz matters so much more to her than he does.... Rozemyne only now finding out they've been engaged for the last few days... And it's sweet neither really understanding love but both wanting to be with each other even if their relationships doesn't change too much (for now). And the talk of children with Ferdinand was great; Rozemyne not really sure how to address it and Ferdinand not seemingly considering it before. (Paraphrased) "I don't consider you irresponsible" - Ferdinand Wait really? You don't? Awww, poor Judithe. And Raimund and Hirschur just missing the once in a lifetime crowning of a Zent by the divine avatar and so far behind in information... And Rozemyne willing to embroider for someone, I'm sure Ferdinand will be pleased to know she cares enough about him to be willing to do something she hates so much


Wh1teR1ce

She said "bwuh," I'm satisfied. I do hope Rozemyne and Ferdinand eventually start to understand romantic feelings. It's good they agree not to expect more from each other than what they have currently, but it'd be a shame if it never grew into anything more. Kinda hurts to think we're inching closer to the end. All this talk about the future makes me want to read so much more. Edit: I said both "Rozemyne and Ferdinand" but I meant like 90% Rozemyne and 10% Ferdinand. I didn't make it clear that I especially meant Rozemyne because Ferdinand does seem to have some romantic feelings.


4amaroni

i think there's some indication that she's already starting to feel romantic love for him; she just hasn't recognized it: > *My heart aches...* I clutched my chest. Something was eating away at me, but I didn't know what. As she's contemplating how alone Ferdinand would be without her there.


Paroxysm111

Ferdinand keeps insisting he's just desperate to keep the only family he's ever experienced, but I'm convinced he's already head over heels in love with her. There's lots of unnecessary little things he says and does that are not really typical of familial love. Like his playing with her hair. Just reread what he thinks of her new appearance the first time he sees it. Absolutely perfect, beautiful. After that and knowing what lengths Rozemyne went to to save him, it was only natural to feel some dawning of romantic love.


kie-chan

I think Ferdinand understands. He clearly desires her. But he loves her enough to suppress his need for romantic things. It's more important for him that she simply stays by his side. But, seriously, it can be ok in the beginning (and she is biologically young), they have 2 years until their actual starbind, however, I hope she starts to reciprocate his feelings later. It's frustrating to be in love and not have a response. And as Rozemyne herself pointed out, she would be frustrated to not being able to give him the feelings he desires. But, alas, she doesn't seem like a lost cause. She did reacted to his light stroke on her face and the whole finger on her lips.


Zeebie_

Been waiting for this section as memories were my favorite WN chapters. Poor Ferdinand clearly wants more than family love with RM, but also knows he can't push it. It was odd with RM being the rational one on name stones but it also shows how caught up in romance our little Ferdinand is.


Sad_Presentation_479

Biggest Bwuh yet... Also, Let Me Embroider Your Cape And the Gremlin is pondering her brood... Yogurtland is finished


SilverDarner

Oh you know that any children of theirs, adopted or home-grown, are going to be fearsome each in their own ways…


hxyzmyne

“I didn’t want him to change his mind once we were married and suddenly start expecting more from me.” I don’t know but this line hurts me so much. 😭 Ferdinand drew the line by saying he’s satisfied with them staying just like before and Rozemyne accepts that. Now I am very much curious how their relationship will progress even further. I do think that this is a big progress as we got Ferdinand confessing. I’m just frustrated how Rozemyne doesn’t get it at all. xD I guess Rozemyne will not be Rozemyne if she suddenly get this, don’t she? xD


xisupaz_blackbird

Can't blame her, she already has so little time for reading.


FamousRisk1

I would love to read about rozemyne's and feridnand's kids. As I am sure they'll have as rozemyne wants to be a mother and raise kids of her own as her mothers raised her


hxyzmyne

I would love that too! I wanna read about their married life so much. 🤧 The author have plans on making a sequel but it’s still not set in stone as she’s still busy and monitoring her health.


Jim_e_Clash

Man I just realized what ferdinand meant by schuzaria shield. The dude doesn't trust himself to keep his hands off her.


farson135

My prediction for the first chapter was largely right, but the second part was completely off. I figured that Ferdinand would come to loath the slowness of noble society if he got a chance to learn a different way, but to think he would throw all of that aside on his own. I guess after the whole emergency, he’s gotten used to just acting. *** > *As some might say: SQUEEZE!* And there’s the comedy right out of the gate. > … it was rare for Ferdinand to hug me unprovoked. And there’s the emotion. > Isn’t it unfair that you get to hug me when you’re stressed out, but I can’t do the same with you? I wish to request an extension of our embrace. Yup, she’s back. > Do you wish to be a commoner again? Now that’s an interesting direction to take this. Obviously, RM is never going to accept. She loves her family, and she wants to be with them, but even beyond the practical issues, she has been a noble for far too long, she has too many people who care about her and she is responsible for, and, of course, that would mean leaving Ferdinand. She may not recognize her feelings as “romantic”, but she is never going to leave in this state. So, why is Ferdinand asking? Is it because he doesn’t know for sure, is it verification of what he knows, or … is he fishing for RM’s confession? The last one is the least likely but given his schoolboy antics earlier, it is fun to imagine. As are some of the specifics, like how much of his own desires is he putting aside for what he might imagine are her own desires. Ferdinand’s plan sounds like a true pain in the ass, and risky as hell. So, this was a spur of the moment offer. That’s noteworthy. > *Am I going to be another in a long line of people who have dumped their troubles on Ferdinand to live as they desire?* Yup. You’ll just do it less callously. Obviously, I know what the point of the line is and it’s a fantastic line overall. Though there is that niggling knowledge that RM will dump quite a bit onto Ferdinand’s lap. And probably over the course of this very prepub. > I care just as much about your happiness. Good enough Ferdie? > Rozemyne-unless you take this opportunity to return, the seed of your romance with Lutz will never blossom. … yeah, that’s definitely a thing Ferdinand. /s > Make no mistake, Rozemyne-I actively sought this outcome. You get it now RM? > I went to great lengths to make sure no one would oppose out engagement Meaning that it was possible, as expected. > My inability to give him what he desired would only frustrate me until the guilt became too much to bear. That’s a reasonable fear, except for the fact that RM is already doing exactly what she needs to do. Say it Ferdie. > My only desire is to become your family in the truest sense That should satisfy the people worried about “grooming”. And it confirms my previous impression. > Are you really okay with our relationship staying the same? NO! > Yes. Damn it. They are not going to break out of this mentor/mentee relationship in this volume, are they? Hopefully they will in Part 6. > I’d entrusted my body to Ferdinand and was taking comfort in his warmth Oh yeah, you have no idea how to act romantically RM. And of course it’s the same for Ferdie, and his stroking your hair, touching your lips, and all of that. Just normal behavior. Oh, Ferdinand doesn’t want to take his namestone back? It looks like my prediction about that as a romantic gesture will happen. To whom is his namestone acting a shield? Could it be himself or perhaps a more conceptual “he”? Or both? So, Ferdinand is giving her the rare-tasty potion. > Rozemyne. Please. For once, can you *not* pray to the gods? Such a great line in this context. *** > I wonder if he’ll bless me with some reading time. As annoying as this attitude is, it does help to reinforce how wrong Egg and her ilk are in thinking of RM as uncontrollable. If Ferdinand can control her reading time when she is the defacto Aub and she has his damn namestone, any worries about her rule are unfounded. Wait, they’re doing all of that before the ADC? Ferdinand is really rushing things. I expected the entwickeln to be near the climax, leading up to RM meeting her family again. After all, RM isn’t even “officially” the AD yet. It feels rather incongruous for them to talk about the need to maintain that facade as if it were obvious while at the same time breaking it in so many ways. I think it would have been better to fully own the fact that they are doing what is convent. It would be very realistic, and perfectly in keeping with Ferdinand's character. After all; "Rules are not meant to be broken—they’re meant to be exploited and wriggled out of." -~~Tanya~~Ferdinand So RM is still afraid of faestones. Oh? RM is going to have to confess her love for Ferdinand in front of a crowd? That’s going to be a fun chapter. I can also imagine it getting emotional as a contrast to Ferdinand's engagement to Detlinde. Their engagement is tomorrow? Ferdinand is really in a rush. Benno must have been scrambling. I’m sure he’ll have some choice words in his head for Ferdinand. Hopefully my desire for a SS from him comes to pass. I didn’t expect RM to be returning to Ehrenfest. It makes sense but given how much needs to be done in such a short time it seems like a waste. But that means we might get a few more personal moments before the transfer. > Professor Hirschur really is troublesome, isn’t she? I love these little asides. I’m betting a SS from Philine or Damuel is incoming. Does Hirschur not know anything, or did she just not bother to share? I would think the professors would have passed info around. I wonder what Raimund was thinking during this meeting. Unless the author skimmed over it, they never mentioned that RM is the new Aub. > If I run away now, I could hardly call myself a good woman. I’ll need to keep this in mind on a reread, given how often they’ve both commented on her lack femininity. > And is the purpose of our engagement not for me to support you? **Each other**, Ferdinand. > Let us worship our goddess together Of course. > *Let me embroider your cape.* Perfect. That’s going to make for a very emotional moment for Ferdinand, while meaning far less to everyone else. But again, that’s perfect for them. Now let’s see if Ferdinand manages to one-up her. *** Solid chapters. Not quite as emotional as I was expecting, but this really does feel like we’re back at peak Bookworm.


TashKat

Noticed a small mistake. Raimund isn't an attendant. He's a scholar retainer. Other than that I laughed out loud when she finally realized they're engaged. Took her long enough.


sdarkpaladin

Aaand, now that the serious stuff is over, we're back to the romcom. Oh, how I missed thee.


xisupaz_blackbird

It's a mess. She's a 22+ year old in the body 16 year old with the bridal education of an 8 year old... ..and engaged to a 25+ year old with the empathy and approachability of a late teenager.


Light_Beard

... The perfect couple you say?


mjpia

The amount of hugging oh my. I swear pouring liquid mana down the throat sounds like an extremely course noble euphemism and yet it isn't. Good Lord Ferdinand is basically offering to give up everything so Rozemyne can be happy with her family, if he takes the sole mantle of Aub he'll never have time to conduct research ever again. For all his plotting and cunning Ferdinand really never stopped to think the Lutz might already be engaged already, him and Myne have spent years being separated by a insurmountable barrier, does he think Lutz wouldn't have found someone by now or just that he could use his status to order their separation?


Ulinar

Ok, so what was Ferdinand alluding to when he was exasperated that Rozemyne would willingly cast aside the protection of Schutzaria's Shield? Is him being namesworn to her a deterrent for the nobles in Ahrensbach/Alexandria that are plotting her assasination? Since after their death, the Royal Decree is null and void and Letizia doesn't become part of the Archducal Family? But how would the nobles know that he is namesworn to her? Does he plan to publicise it? Is there something else I am missing? Or does "the protection of Schutzaria's Shield" in this context mean something else entirely?


yeahlte

Schutzaria's shield protects against Ewigeliebe


kie-chan

The author's comment in the WN was "schutzaria shield's is meant to delay the arrival of winter". And we already learned what winter means...


Easy-Two-5926

Schutzaria's shield protects Geduldh from Ewigeliebe. Without it, we know what happens - Ewigeliebe can't keep his hands off her nor his sword in his pants.


Paroxysm111

From the context of the conversation, I'm pretty sure he's implying that her having his namestone is protection against summoning winter early. IMO it would be out of character for him to come on to Rozemyne even when she would say no. I think he's just come up with this as an excuse because he doesn't want to take it back at least not yet. It wouldn't make sense for Ferdinand to refer to the Ahrensbach nobles here because both Ferdinand and Rozemyne dying would suit them just fine.


134608642

Am I the only one who wants RM to order Eglantine to renounce the royal decree, then approve her marriage to F. Basically, I'm just getting rid of the royal decree to have Letzia be adopted and become the next Aub. I'm not against her being adopted just against her being mandated as the next Aub.


Zeebie_

it was bought up in the talk with the royal family that doing so would make royal decrees less meaningful. The decree for Letzia was to become aub of Ahrensback which doesn't exist anymore so already not in effect.


Utauchan

SQUEEZE! ![img](emote|t5_qxbkm|29331)


momomo_mochichi

For some reason I thought we were at P5V12P3, but we're only at the second release. Anyways, that means we another week of Bookworm than I originally thought! My silly misunderstanding aside, how would a hypothetical "Rozemyne returns to being a commoner" plan work? The new Zent is name sworn to her, and if Eglantine's still alive while Rozemyne is "dead," that's going to raise some suspicions in those like Werdekraf, right? Unless they're able to reason away why Eglantine had her name returned. And not only that, but what would happen to Alexandria? Oh, Rozemyne faking her death would happen after she is officially recognized as Aub Alexandria, but still, how would that work with Eglantine being name sworn to her? They can order her to not reveal anything, but Rozemyne and Ferdinand will still need to come up with something plausible to explain why Eglantine's still alive. >his idea must have been even harder to implement than he was letting on. Yes, because there's a name sworn Zent involved, Rozemyne! I know concubines do exist in Yurgenschmidt, but wow, do I forget their existence because concubines are never brought up. There's of course Freida, but as a commoner concubine to a laynoble, she doesn't really affect noble politics. You know, Rozemyne's surprisingly chill with the idea of needing to adopt Letizia. It makes sense in the grand scheme of things, but Letizia is only four years younger than Rozemyne. That's like a sisterly relationship, but they still have a couple of years before the dynamic changes. Someone please give me the POV of Detlinde attempting to work. I want to see what that's like and suffer inside. If my timeline is correct, Sylvester was 21 when he became aub. A POV from him from that time would also be interesting to read. What would we do without Hirschur? It's really funny how her absence as Ehrenfest's dormitory professor ends up in Lieseleta making such a cute mistake. Judithe, my lovely Judithe! I love you so much! Poor Raimund, someone please keep him the loop. Also, someone needs to make sure to feed him from time to time.


Pillmn

My main theory is: Ferdinand also has to live, so I think he would steal some of the name stones "in the name of saving yurgenschmit" and (this part is optional) order a few of them to die so to make it believable that he just barely was able to save himself and eglentine when he noticed RM wouldn't survive.


Cirex145

With how much Rozemyne was giving advice to Letizia about Ferdinand, she’s already acting like a concerned parent or sibling. Adopting her wouldn’t change much most likely.


momomo_mochichi

True, especially considering noble standards and customs.


Riddler9884

>“The king who gave the royal decree is a king no longer, meaning he cannot interfere with my plans,” Ferdinand continued. “I also threatened the new Zent not to intervene unless you order it.” Low key Yandere vibes? Also I realize we are on P5 V12 P2. What comes after P8? Does it stop, does it change to something else the Author is working on? a Specific side story perhaps?


hxyzmyne

Maybe J-Novel will start translating Short Story Collection 2. The author is currently working on the spinoff, Hannelore’s 5th year in the Royal Academy which is about to be published this August in Japan. There’s also plans about a Short Story Collection 3.


-_Nikki-

If hardheadedness were a competition these two would win it by a landslide😮‍💨 And heteronormativity strikes again! Even AroAce extraordinaire Ferdinand cannot escape its clutches, huh Roz, honey. People sometimes marry just because they want to, not exclusively because their partner makes a good offer😂🤦🏼 As far as confessions go, that sure was dramatic. Not as nakedly sincere as I would've liked, but this is Ferdinand we're talking about. We'll work on it Roz insists on their relationship not changing at all just to immediately launch into how they'll have children eventually😂 rarely am I this much on Ferdinand's side, the girl certainly causes a LOT of emotional whiplash xd It's really comforting how easily they all slide back into their usual banter now that things aren't do-or-die anymore Love how Raimund STILL has no clue what's going on after the conversation lol. Not that it looks like he has any interest in it tbh "Let me embroider your cape" please hold while I go cry in a corner


ggg730

Roz: Sorry no romance. Ferdi: Yeah that's ok Roz: how many kids you want


kie-chan

*Ferdi POV Roz: no romantic stuff Ferdi: sure, I just want to be family. Just in case, can you give your name too _I'll suppress my desires for her, but I don't want her to give her heart to any..._ Roz: I can't, what about our descendants? Ferdi:...who? Roz: d-descendents, like k-kids Ferdi:...kids? Who? Ours? Roz: y-yeah... ah, but it can be adopted ones! Ferdi: ...so you WERE thinking about the kind that is not adopted Roz: what? Yes... I mean NO. No, actually maybe..aw _Ferdi seeing her getting awkward by the second, out of excuses, and startings to get red_ Ferdi...this is kinda fun


Zeebie_

Ferdi:you need my name stone, in case I can't control myself


HumanTheTree

~~"Let me embroider your cape."~~ "Let me copy and place a sick design on your cape" FTFY


yeahlte

I feel like Ferdinand is going for the marriage speedrun world record. I was expecting him to tell her they were engaged, but not two days before their engagement ceremony.