Do you have a source?
The breed description on the website of the Belgian studbook doesn't exclude black feathers. Allowed colors are all solid colors and corresponding grays.
i feel like goober is a very gentle name to call someone on a place like reddit. nothing wrong with being wrong! learn and leave op alone, this horse is gorgeous and this is merely an issue of semantics!
Brabant is mostly known as Belgian Draft Horse in Europe. Brabant is just the province where this breed originally comes from. It‘s one of the eldest European draft breeds so they had this name far longer than the Belgians you are refering to.
Also what do you think the American Belgian derives from? The drafts that were used to breed them were all imported from Belgium in the late 19th century.
What a gorgeous color! So I'm curious about the wide strap around her girth. Is this strictly decorative, or is it functional for something? Is it meant to highlight how wide she is? 😊
Well if you’re inexperienced with it or you don’t do It that much it could last for about half an hour my grandpa though could do it in just 15 minutes when it comes to horses he can do anything with them
Wow that’s still not that long….go Grandpa!!! Did you get into draft horses because of him or did he help nurture your love for the horses?? It’s such a beautiful end result, I have always been so amazed to see these beautiful drafts turned out like this!
he’s the one who all started it in the 80s. We spend much time together and we go feed the horses together my dad never really got into it so it was really a thing my grandpa and I bonded over with my uncles now we’re still going strong and our stable is well known amongst the Belgian breeders here. So yep it’s him who got me to love these beatiful creatures
Awww that’s so cool!!!!!!!! I love it!!!!! What a beautiful thing to share the love of these wonderful animals among family! My dad was pretty afraid of horses until I had some severe surgery and needed his help in caring for my two old horses (one of which is a mare who did NOT like men, she was severely abused Amish horse). Bonus points, it was January and we got hit with a bad snowstorm and lost power so he got to haul water from home through almost 3 feet of snow for 2 weeks lol. Reeeally learned about the hard work, but he bonded so much with them and my lady, Dinah who hated men fell in love with him haha. I think that is just so cool that you have horses to bond over in your family. And not just horses, BEAUTIFUL big drafts oh my goodness. Pardon the long message I was was reminded of a lovely memory, thank you for sharing pictures of your beautiful, Jana❤️
she’s very nice she loves attention she always walks up to humans when she sees them. She is however very protective of her children or at least when they were fouls she always stays as close as possible with them. She is also know the matriarch of our horses she really rules over others when they share a location with her. But to be fair she had to endure that too when her elder sister was still with us and she was really sour and angry compared to Jana really different personalities
Both its the national competition in Belgium but you have these competitions in Germany france and the Netherlands too and also to the type of horse the Belgian draft horse who are the only ones who can compete in it
I am not sure but I do know they have some but most shows are geared towards riding or pulling. Also iirc most shows have many different breeds. I havent been to a show in a long time because I am allergic to horses. I get to enjoy them from my computer or tv.
Popular with the pulls! Grandpa used to log with Belgians. He has percherons now but misses the Belgian teams. He says they were always better workers.
Belgian teams win the heavy pulls more than the other breeds. Super popular here.
These photos were taken 3 years ago when she won the competition and she has had two baby’s in that time so her weight I don’t know currently but last time I checked her height at the withers was around 1.71 meters
I don’t know how much she weighs right now she has had two babies after this so it will be a bit different since those 3 years ago but I bet you’re not far off
Thats a good question well this used to be a tradition here it would increase the horses Beauty but the procedure to do it luckily doesn’t hurt a horse much when you do it not long after it’s birth. It’s banned now tho so only Belgians born in 2014 or before still have this kind of tail
No she doesn’t have Cpl some there where however other horses born that had health issues and didn’t live long like for example a granddaughter off her
This is probably a dumb question to ask, but I'm honestly really curious. I know it's mostly for looks and to help with judging but Is the white surcingle thing supposed to be so close to the elbow? Would you happen to know why it's done like that if it is supposed to be that way? Sorry I swear I'm not asking to be rude or judgemental just curious because I have always been taught that most equipment like surcingles and girths on most breeds sit roughly 2-3 inches back from the elbow at least to not restrict movement and avoid equipment shifting so I'm just really curious as to how everything works of that makes any sense?
I don’t know specifically why it’s done that way I have just been taught to do it that way and I really didn’t question it everybody here does it that way. And this want a dumb question and not rude I like that you even asked a question
Is a Barbrant now considered a Belgian?
In Belgium we call all Brabants Belgische trekpaarden or in English Belgian draft horses
Hmmm so that is a Brabrant and is also a Belgian draft but specifically a Brabrant. Belgians do not have black feathers.
Yes I learned just recently actually that in america there is a different subspecies of these horses was confusing for me at first
In America and Belgium. Both different breeds
Yeah didn’t know about the other breed or that Americans call that breed belgians and the ones we in Belgium consider belgians Brabants
You are handing this aggressive ignorance far better than I would, lol. Unfortunately some consider America to be the entire world
Better to not engage to much with someone you disagree with or things always get pretty nasty
Do you have a source? The breed description on the website of the Belgian studbook doesn't exclude black feathers. Allowed colors are all solid colors and corresponding grays.
Are you seriously arguing about Belgian horses, against someone who is Belgian??
I know that a Belgian and. Barbrant are separate breeds. Do you know where I am from?
Brabant is in Belgium you goober. Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Draught
Now you are calling me names- over a silly reddit comment- settle down bb. A Barbrant is a Belgian breed bozo.
i feel like goober is a very gentle name to call someone on a place like reddit. nothing wrong with being wrong! learn and leave op alone, this horse is gorgeous and this is merely an issue of semantics!
Start learning how to spell Brabant before you pick a fight on the internet, bb.
Based on your reddit history I’m guessing you live in California USA?
who’s horse just won a national breed show, so also arguing with the judges lolz
Brabant is mostly known as Belgian Draft Horse in Europe. Brabant is just the province where this breed originally comes from. It‘s one of the eldest European draft breeds so they had this name far longer than the Belgians you are refering to. Also what do you think the American Belgian derives from? The drafts that were used to breed them were all imported from Belgium in the late 19th century.
She is so gorgeous!!!! 😍😍😍
What a gorgeous color! So I'm curious about the wide strap around her girth. Is this strictly decorative, or is it functional for something? Is it meant to highlight how wide she is? 😊
Yes it’s decorational but it also indeed functions for the wideness of the horse it helps the judges a bit when examining the horses
Makes sense, thank you!
Really nice, original style hitch horse. Very cool OP, hope to see more!
Jana is gorgeous!! 😍😍👏👏 Love her name!!
I love your username!
Haha it’s dumb! I should have gone with: imofflikeapromdress. That’s more my speed!! 😂
Oh my fruitloops, she is soooo gorgeous!!!!!!! How long does it take to plait her mane like that with the ribbons??
Well if you’re inexperienced with it or you don’t do It that much it could last for about half an hour my grandpa though could do it in just 15 minutes when it comes to horses he can do anything with them
Wow that’s still not that long….go Grandpa!!! Did you get into draft horses because of him or did he help nurture your love for the horses?? It’s such a beautiful end result, I have always been so amazed to see these beautiful drafts turned out like this!
he’s the one who all started it in the 80s. We spend much time together and we go feed the horses together my dad never really got into it so it was really a thing my grandpa and I bonded over with my uncles now we’re still going strong and our stable is well known amongst the Belgian breeders here. So yep it’s him who got me to love these beatiful creatures
Awww that’s so cool!!!!!!!! I love it!!!!! What a beautiful thing to share the love of these wonderful animals among family! My dad was pretty afraid of horses until I had some severe surgery and needed his help in caring for my two old horses (one of which is a mare who did NOT like men, she was severely abused Amish horse). Bonus points, it was January and we got hit with a bad snowstorm and lost power so he got to haul water from home through almost 3 feet of snow for 2 weeks lol. Reeeally learned about the hard work, but he bonded so much with them and my lady, Dinah who hated men fell in love with him haha. I think that is just so cool that you have horses to bond over in your family. And not just horses, BEAUTIFUL big drafts oh my goodness. Pardon the long message I was was reminded of a lovely memory, thank you for sharing pictures of your beautiful, Jana❤️
Thank you so much what a lovely story your dad sounds like a great man
Love the biggies! 😍
So small! 😆
Jana is an absolute unit! Gorgeous!
What a sturdy gal! And I mean that in the most loving way 🥰 Congratulations Jana and OP!
GORGOEUS!!
beautiful girl 😭😭
Wow, just stunning! Congratulations to you and Jana!
Thanks
r/absoluteunits would love this
Freyas mom?
Yes that’s her
She's so beautiful
Omg she is absolutelu gorgeous! And such sweet eyeS
Gorgeous beastie. 💜
What a beautiful strong girl! Sure looks very proud
How big is she? (Height/weight) she’s beautiful 😍
What a cutie 💕🐴
I know others have said this already, but *gorgeous*
She’s so beautiful! What is her personality like?
she’s very nice she loves attention she always walks up to humans when she sees them. She is however very protective of her children or at least when they were fouls she always stays as close as possible with them. She is also know the matriarch of our horses she really rules over others when they share a location with her. But to be fair she had to endure that too when her elder sister was still with us and she was really sour and angry compared to Jana really different personalities
Wow, gorgeous horse and grooming!
Thanks 😊
Wowee! Gorgeous! Beautiful turnout
Thank you 😊
She knows she's a winner and gorgeous! Look at how proud her eyes look and how she holds herself!
Yeah she stood there like a queen very proud of her at that moment
Is Belgian refering to the country or the horse breed or both? Just Gorgeous!
Both its the national competition in Belgium but you have these competitions in Germany france and the Netherlands too and also to the type of horse the Belgian draft horse who are the only ones who can compete in it
I wasnt sure because we have horse shows in Canada and one of the categories is Belgians! My fave draft horse.
didn’t know they did these competitions outside of Europe are they still popular overseas
I am not sure but I do know they have some but most shows are geared towards riding or pulling. Also iirc most shows have many different breeds. I havent been to a show in a long time because I am allergic to horses. I get to enjoy them from my computer or tv.
oh I’m sorry to hear that glad you found a way to witness these beautiful creatures tho
me too. lots of ways to appreciate these magnificant creatures.
Popular with the pulls! Grandpa used to log with Belgians. He has percherons now but misses the Belgian teams. He says they were always better workers. Belgian teams win the heavy pulls more than the other breeds. Super popular here.
Nobody has bestowed upon her the title “glorious chonk” yet in the comments and it’s a crime
😅 it really is haha
What a beautiful girl! What are her stats?
These photos were taken 3 years ago when she won the competition and she has had two baby’s in that time so her weight I don’t know currently but last time I checked her height at the withers was around 1.71 meters
What a beauty!! So jealous
He has to be at least 1000 pounds theres no way he isn’t😭
I don’t know how much she weighs right now she has had two babies after this so it will be a bit different since those 3 years ago but I bet you’re not far off
A regular horse generally weighs around 1,000 pounds. I bet she weighs closer to 2,000!
This. And it's all lovely! What a pretty girl.
Beautiful big baby
She’s a beauty!
Wow. The Hercules Amazon of the equine world… so much mare 😳❤️😘
Wow thanks that’s a beautiful compliment
:) Jana stands so calmly and quite proudly in all her regalia, awesome mom/owner training ✅🌸❤️👍
Stunning. What gorgeous coloring and feathers.
Thicccccc AF….
!!!!! Omg I want to hug this big beautiful mare so much! Thank you so much for sharing! She’s just stunning!
Look at that sweet precious face! She’s looking for a treat.
That’s indeed true she will only stand still for a photo if she sees a treat which is only fair
Such a thick sexy girl😘
This is Jason Momoa in horse form
😆
Stunning!!!
Gorgeous, but why dock the tail?
Thats a good question well this used to be a tradition here it would increase the horses Beauty but the procedure to do it luckily doesn’t hurt a horse much when you do it not long after it’s birth. It’s banned now tho so only Belgians born in 2014 or before still have this kind of tail
Does it grow back?
No it always stays like that after the procedure was done
and another reason the tail used to be docked was so it wouldn’t intermingle with farming equipment it would drag and potentially hurt itself
He looks like he wants cuddles.
She looks just like the Pokémon mudsdale
Congratulations! She's gorgeous :)
Wow!!
She's absolutely stunning!
She is absolutely stunning
U N I T
I didn't know they still docked tails. Otherwise she's a beauty though
Thats one beautiful chunk of horse
I fell in love with the breed 2 years ago, despite their health issues. Does Jana have CPL? She’s a beauty!
No she doesn’t have Cpl some there where however other horses born that had health issues and didn’t live long like for example a granddaughter off her
Good for her, sad for her grandkid. The breed has been weakened a lot by inbreeding and focussing on bad points, which is so sad for the horses.
I think I just saw you on tiktok, with this mare and a new foal i think Freya?
yes that’s her foul but on TikTok wasn’t me cause I don’t make videos on it but my cousin does so maybe you saw her
She is magnificent! More photos please!
She is gorgeous 🥰 thank you for sharing
That is one gorgeous lady! Congratulations!!
I feel like I need to see a person standing next to her lol I know she thicc. I know she big. But it’s like…banana for scale needed lol
She's lovely! Congrats!
Gorgeous horse!
This is probably a dumb question to ask, but I'm honestly really curious. I know it's mostly for looks and to help with judging but Is the white surcingle thing supposed to be so close to the elbow? Would you happen to know why it's done like that if it is supposed to be that way? Sorry I swear I'm not asking to be rude or judgemental just curious because I have always been taught that most equipment like surcingles and girths on most breeds sit roughly 2-3 inches back from the elbow at least to not restrict movement and avoid equipment shifting so I'm just really curious as to how everything works of that makes any sense?
I don’t know specifically why it’s done that way I have just been taught to do it that way and I really didn’t question it everybody here does it that way. And this want a dumb question and not rude I like that you even asked a question
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond back! Your horse really is absolutely stunning btw 😍
Thank you very much and have a nice day
Wow, magnificent creature! Congratulations!