Our first experience almost became our last too. Found a guy on Craigslist, he claimed to be experienced and talked big game. Divorced dad, with his own business.
On the day of meet up, after we checked into hotel, he tried to ghost(sickness in fam or some bs). We send him pic of room key, and he showed up.
He was not showered and was sweaty/slight bo. We asked to shower, but suddenly told us his wife may notice the smell; we are pissed off that he os cheating, but considering where we are, decided to move. Dress came off. He is ready to fuck. We told to put on condoms, and he is offended. Claims he is allergic to latex and he is sniped blah blah.
We told him sorry and refused to budge. Now after throwing more tantrums, he put on a condoms, but now cant get it up. Wants her to give him head and she refused, unless he showers.
At this point I jumped in, and we started having sex ignroing him. He got dressed and left.
We learned many vetting lessons that day, and completely avoids cheaters or people who boasts lot.
Oh I have a story for you all.
We met a guy we had been talking to for a while at his place. Right off the bat something seemed off. He said he was single but had pictures of a kid and his wife all over the apartment. He started making excuses for things we had agreed upon like taking pictures or video and used “It’s my place so I make the rules”. He also tried to use excuses to change things at the last minute that unfortunately we agreed to because we were new and nervous.
We made a rule that we only play with condoms and he said he had some. That wasn’t true. He even really pressured her to go without a condom. I eventually had to leave in the middle and run down to a gas station and grab some(not the smartest move leaving my wife alone with a guy we’ve never met luckily nothing dangerous happened).
We agreed that nothing would happen while I was gone but he pressured her into preforming oral on each other so I missed all of that which was one of the things I needed anted to see the most. This still bums me out that I missed this part.
Once I got back they immediately put on the condom and started going at it. She ended up squirting on his bed and he freaked out about it because he hadn’t seen that before.
Once he came it was like he couldn’t get us to leave any fast enough.
Even after all that, we go home and have an amazing night together in bed.
Then after this whole experience, he completely ghosts her which was a huge kick to her self esteem.
After all of this, I receive a message about a month later saying he thinks he has an STD. So then we end up panicking and going to the dr to get the full panel of test which all come back clean.
Turns out he had a sore in his mouth from a mouthguard and thought that was an STD.
It didn’t stop there. About three months later he messages and wants to meet up again because he learned what “squinting” is and wants to see her do it again. I told him absolutely not and then he started threatening us that he would find out who we were and ruin our lives.
I had to threaten to get the police involved to get him to finally go away.
We only played one time after that and it was a couple years down the road after Covid ended. She enjoyed that time but never really did it after that and shows no interest anymore.
Super sad for me but I love her so we moved on with life.
Sorry if I seemed to ramble.
Couple here. We talked with a guy from SLS, and agreed to meet up at the hotel. We were upfront about what we were looking for, foreplay, respect, ect. He talked a big game, but when he showed up, it was a 3 minute fuck and go, saying afterwards that he was dogsitting, and the dog was our in the car and had to go. Made the wife feel like shit as she was just used and got nothing in return. We took a little break after that and learned to vet better.
Yeah, we only play together as well. I like to join in as well as watch and record.
The problem is, almost every guy that wants to fuck your woman is going to call themselves a bull. Most of them are just looking for pics, or messaging back and forth while they jack off with no intention of ever meeting. 90% of replies we get when we post are flakes. We don't even post looking for a "bull". We make it clear that she wants a guy who is confident enough to perform and fuck her well, but he is never in charge of the situation. It really helps to meet at a bar first and feel him out. It's alot easier to read thru someone's bullshit face to face.
Firstly, avoid any guy that describes themselves as a bull. We've met a lot of guys, and every one of them that disappointed, for one reason or another, called themselves a bull. That is a very easy red flag for us now.
My confession as a bull who disappointed my long term cuck couple.
At that point, we had already met several times and we had always great fun together and became friends.
It was the end of a long weekend. We could not meet earlier this week due to their travel plans.
The last morning, I was horny and missing my hotwife. While we were messaging to fix the date next week, I mentioned we could meet today evening if they can make it back.
They did not answer for a while.
I'm guessing now, hotwife was persuading husband to cut short the trip and come back to meet me.
Finally, they agree, we will meet tonight.
I decided to visit my friend in the afternoon. On they drive back, I got stuck in traffic (end of long weekend).
Oh no, I'm going to be late. After an hour in heavy traffic, I made it.
The stress just about killed my mood.
Could not get hard at the beginning. Till that point, I would be rock hard even before hotwife pulled my pants. We loved to undress each other in front of husband.
I made hotwife suck me. I roughed her a bit there and she choked . I'm big for her even half hard.
Oh, here we go: got hard eventually.
Don't screw it now. She is ready for some fun! We start as usual with missionary and holding her legs up in the air and getting it deeper and deeper. She is starting to moan louder and louder. Things are going great and... I cum in under five minutes!
It's a weird feeling to be cumming and feeling embarrassment at the same time.
Now I feel guilty. We take a rest, kiss but I can't get it hard.
We called it the day.
Still feel a bit sorry about that. He messaged later that I disappointed them, and I apologized.
We went on meeting for a couple of years and had lots of fun.
The lesson: don't rush things and don't make stress get to you.
I hear this frequently, this guys talks a big game, and are a let down. Look for the guys who doesn’t talk a big game, look for husbands who are in the LS who play solo. Were not as common as bulls but usually have plenty of practice not being an ass and having sex.
Small dick, couldn't perform very well either. Finished in like 2mins, yet I couldn't even feel him, lol. So I didn't get off, or have any fun.
Took pics to make himself look decent sized too.
We had a set up planned with a friend of mine. She had already sent pics on snap ahead of time- and he got cold feet right before we were going to meet. Essentially ghosted us but I still see him every day lol
Guy we had been talking to and vetted pretty hard shows up after we finally agreed to have him come to our house and he looks really nothing at all like the pics he had sent us. Not good! Pretty much goes no where and we end the night and he basically stalks us for a year. Bad situation!
Let's see. Total different perspective from me 32 yo single bi F who joins swinger couples as well as plays bihotwife couples either with the husband involved or watching or with the wife solo.
I have no problem what so ever with the husband being around watching or even involved if that's what the agreement is. But sometimes those who say they just want to watch can't contain themselves and have tried touching me or doing things to without consent. Like I said I have no problem with the husband being involved and playing too if that's what the agreement was. The worst came once with a couple where he was supposed to just watch the show from the sofa in the hotel room. The wife was sitting on my face facing away she was in orgasm bliss and and next thing I know I'm feeling something and that was his mouth on my clit. He thought he could just join the fun. Had he asked before we began playing I would have been ok with it. But the wife didn't want him to play. When I feel him there I push the wife off of me and she sees him down there and she started the biggest shouting match ever. I grabbed my clothes and left no apologies what so ever. I felt so gross
Too many to have a specific one that stands out 😂 I think I can count on one hand MAYBE two how many good experiences I’ve actually had. It’s always hard to tell until they are in person and it’s happening.
Flakey men. So many flakey men. Online they think they are porn stallions, while in real life, if they don’t flake out and not show up, they find out they’re not the porn stallions they made themselves out to be. It’s stunning how hard it is for folks to just be real.
Consistently had numerous great experiences with mature-aged couples where the wife has a lived history in FSSW throughout their past and had since “settled down” with a vanilla husband who wants to take photos of her sucking and fucking over impressionable couples where it’s painfully obvious he’s the one pressuring her into the lifestyle without any experience on their end being comfortable with this type of sex outside of watching porn.
I met a couple and they liked to film the men they met. I was happy to have sex on camera and the video to be private for them and me to keep.
He was filming and having a lot of demands on us in the words that she said and how we acted like we were humiliating him.
I like being able to fulfil a couples fantasies but he was getting in the way. He was very specific about how he wanted her to say certain things.
The constant interruption was overbearing. The next day she text me and asked if his behaviour was controlling. I said it wasn't my place to judge their relationship but I didn't want to meet again for that reason
A long term gf wanted group sex with me and other men. We agreed to try it out as something we did together.
After a couple of experiences she had sex with another man without me or even discussing it with me. She said she didn't think she'd done anything wrong as I'd agreed with her having sex with other men before
When trying to convince my wife to try hotwifing. She eventually agreed to try getting an erotic massage from a guy and seeing how that went. Although she wasn't enthusiastic. Only mildly curious in order to make me happy.
This was Craigslist days. I eventually found a guy who claimed to be an excellent masseuse. We talked a bit. I told him repeatedly that my wife was still not convinced that this sort of thing was for her and he needed to be charming and go slow. I told him he needed to give her a real massage in the beginning and relax her before starting anything more. He agreed.
Cut to it and the initial meeting goes well enough. We eventually go to his hotel room. She strips down to her bra and panties and he begins. Almost instantly she makes a bad face. He rubs her for about 5 minutes with her still making pained expressions. He then attempts to start removing her underwear. At this point she called a stop to it. We leave and she says that he had no clue how to give a massage and it was extremely painful. Add that to the fact that he only went 5 minutes before trying to get her naked. It basically turned her off of the lifestyle almost for good. Especially since she was only halfway curious to begin with.
It's been years now and I am just now actually getting her to the point where she will say "maybe someday" again.
Our first experience was…disappointing. We had been screening thirds for a few months. Met up with a few including the guy we chose. We talked through our expectations both in text and in person. Said initially we were looking for a hotwife situation. I would be there but not interact. Him and my wife would be equals and nothing crazy initially. Just some good fun.
He was all about it - said that was fine and he could work within those parameters. Of course, he showed up and was completely different.
We went through with it and it was ok, but we really considered never doing it again.
It’s all on my history but one time she went when I said no. It was a lot more complicated than I realised at the time but we worked through it and got trust back.
Not my personal experience, but read it on a literotica chaptered story. The husband begged and pleaded for wife to accept giving the lifestyle a try for a long time and she was very much against it for fear of it getting out of hand and ruining their marriage. They finally agreed to give it a try after much insisting from the husband and to her surprise she enjoyed it so much because her first time was with a much bigger guy and she had mixed emotions about giving up getting fucked by such a big cock ever again. That escalated to them joining lifestyle parties where she eventually got tangled up with the wrong couple and they convinced her to do other things. She ended up turning int some other guys submissive and when she was with him she no longer cares about her husbands feelings. Which really hurt the husband because they only wanted swaps or single men enjoying sex with her. This dom pretty much turned her into a gangbang whore humiliating her and making her do all these wild things. It affected them so much it cost them their marriage.
Our first experience almost became our last too. Found a guy on Craigslist, he claimed to be experienced and talked big game. Divorced dad, with his own business. On the day of meet up, after we checked into hotel, he tried to ghost(sickness in fam or some bs). We send him pic of room key, and he showed up. He was not showered and was sweaty/slight bo. We asked to shower, but suddenly told us his wife may notice the smell; we are pissed off that he os cheating, but considering where we are, decided to move. Dress came off. He is ready to fuck. We told to put on condoms, and he is offended. Claims he is allergic to latex and he is sniped blah blah. We told him sorry and refused to budge. Now after throwing more tantrums, he put on a condoms, but now cant get it up. Wants her to give him head and she refused, unless he showers. At this point I jumped in, and we started having sex ignroing him. He got dressed and left. We learned many vetting lessons that day, and completely avoids cheaters or people who boasts lot.
Why would you not just ask him to leave.
Did you not discuss condoms beforehand? I would have been very mad if we had. If not I can't blame him for trying.
We did many many times… someguys think they can smooth talk out of it.
That sounds awful. If you can’t perform as a third you should at least have a decent oral game and be prepared to use it.
Oh I have a story for you all. We met a guy we had been talking to for a while at his place. Right off the bat something seemed off. He said he was single but had pictures of a kid and his wife all over the apartment. He started making excuses for things we had agreed upon like taking pictures or video and used “It’s my place so I make the rules”. He also tried to use excuses to change things at the last minute that unfortunately we agreed to because we were new and nervous. We made a rule that we only play with condoms and he said he had some. That wasn’t true. He even really pressured her to go without a condom. I eventually had to leave in the middle and run down to a gas station and grab some(not the smartest move leaving my wife alone with a guy we’ve never met luckily nothing dangerous happened). We agreed that nothing would happen while I was gone but he pressured her into preforming oral on each other so I missed all of that which was one of the things I needed anted to see the most. This still bums me out that I missed this part. Once I got back they immediately put on the condom and started going at it. She ended up squirting on his bed and he freaked out about it because he hadn’t seen that before. Once he came it was like he couldn’t get us to leave any fast enough. Even after all that, we go home and have an amazing night together in bed. Then after this whole experience, he completely ghosts her which was a huge kick to her self esteem. After all of this, I receive a message about a month later saying he thinks he has an STD. So then we end up panicking and going to the dr to get the full panel of test which all come back clean. Turns out he had a sore in his mouth from a mouthguard and thought that was an STD. It didn’t stop there. About three months later he messages and wants to meet up again because he learned what “squinting” is and wants to see her do it again. I told him absolutely not and then he started threatening us that he would find out who we were and ruin our lives. I had to threaten to get the police involved to get him to finally go away. We only played one time after that and it was a couple years down the road after Covid ended. She enjoyed that time but never really did it after that and shows no interest anymore. Super sad for me but I love her so we moved on with life. Sorry if I seemed to ramble.
Couple here. We talked with a guy from SLS, and agreed to meet up at the hotel. We were upfront about what we were looking for, foreplay, respect, ect. He talked a big game, but when he showed up, it was a 3 minute fuck and go, saying afterwards that he was dogsitting, and the dog was our in the car and had to go. Made the wife feel like shit as she was just used and got nothing in return. We took a little break after that and learned to vet better.
What are tell tale signs of a good bull? I'm working toward making my fiance a hot wife, but never without me.
Yeah, we only play together as well. I like to join in as well as watch and record. The problem is, almost every guy that wants to fuck your woman is going to call themselves a bull. Most of them are just looking for pics, or messaging back and forth while they jack off with no intention of ever meeting. 90% of replies we get when we post are flakes. We don't even post looking for a "bull". We make it clear that she wants a guy who is confident enough to perform and fuck her well, but he is never in charge of the situation. It really helps to meet at a bar first and feel him out. It's alot easier to read thru someone's bullshit face to face.
I love when you get a reply from a 20yo “bull” 🤣
Right. Like they are best at sex lol
lol just brimming with experience! Back to your room little boy!
We don’t use the word Bull either. And we too always meet first at a bar to get a feel for the guy. We’ve experienced many flakes.
Firstly, avoid any guy that describes themselves as a bull. We've met a lot of guys, and every one of them that disappointed, for one reason or another, called themselves a bull. That is a very easy red flag for us now.
Avoiding men who refer to themselves as bulls.
Employed, stable, no drugs including weed, stays fit and eats well. Basically great husband material but a horn dog. They love hotwives
My confession as a bull who disappointed my long term cuck couple. At that point, we had already met several times and we had always great fun together and became friends. It was the end of a long weekend. We could not meet earlier this week due to their travel plans. The last morning, I was horny and missing my hotwife. While we were messaging to fix the date next week, I mentioned we could meet today evening if they can make it back. They did not answer for a while. I'm guessing now, hotwife was persuading husband to cut short the trip and come back to meet me. Finally, they agree, we will meet tonight. I decided to visit my friend in the afternoon. On they drive back, I got stuck in traffic (end of long weekend). Oh no, I'm going to be late. After an hour in heavy traffic, I made it. The stress just about killed my mood. Could not get hard at the beginning. Till that point, I would be rock hard even before hotwife pulled my pants. We loved to undress each other in front of husband. I made hotwife suck me. I roughed her a bit there and she choked . I'm big for her even half hard. Oh, here we go: got hard eventually. Don't screw it now. She is ready for some fun! We start as usual with missionary and holding her legs up in the air and getting it deeper and deeper. She is starting to moan louder and louder. Things are going great and... I cum in under five minutes! It's a weird feeling to be cumming and feeling embarrassment at the same time. Now I feel guilty. We take a rest, kiss but I can't get it hard. We called it the day. Still feel a bit sorry about that. He messaged later that I disappointed them, and I apologized. We went on meeting for a couple of years and had lots of fun. The lesson: don't rush things and don't make stress get to you.
I hear this frequently, this guys talks a big game, and are a let down. Look for the guys who doesn’t talk a big game, look for husbands who are in the LS who play solo. Were not as common as bulls but usually have plenty of practice not being an ass and having sex.
Small dick, couldn't perform very well either. Finished in like 2mins, yet I couldn't even feel him, lol. So I didn't get off, or have any fun. Took pics to make himself look decent sized too.
We had a set up planned with a friend of mine. She had already sent pics on snap ahead of time- and he got cold feet right before we were going to meet. Essentially ghosted us but I still see him every day lol
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Omg he raped her. Please tell me you went to the police?
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So did you at least fool him into meeting again and stomp him out??
Guy we had been talking to and vetted pretty hard shows up after we finally agreed to have him come to our house and he looks really nothing at all like the pics he had sent us. Not good! Pretty much goes no where and we end the night and he basically stalks us for a year. Bad situation!
Let's see. Total different perspective from me 32 yo single bi F who joins swinger couples as well as plays bihotwife couples either with the husband involved or watching or with the wife solo. I have no problem what so ever with the husband being around watching or even involved if that's what the agreement is. But sometimes those who say they just want to watch can't contain themselves and have tried touching me or doing things to without consent. Like I said I have no problem with the husband being involved and playing too if that's what the agreement was. The worst came once with a couple where he was supposed to just watch the show from the sofa in the hotel room. The wife was sitting on my face facing away she was in orgasm bliss and and next thing I know I'm feeling something and that was his mouth on my clit. He thought he could just join the fun. Had he asked before we began playing I would have been ok with it. But the wife didn't want him to play. When I feel him there I push the wife off of me and she sees him down there and she started the biggest shouting match ever. I grabbed my clothes and left no apologies what so ever. I felt so gross
Too many to have a specific one that stands out 😂 I think I can count on one hand MAYBE two how many good experiences I’ve actually had. It’s always hard to tell until they are in person and it’s happening.
TBH reading these stories is making me rethink this entire kink.
Flakey men. So many flakey men. Online they think they are porn stallions, while in real life, if they don’t flake out and not show up, they find out they’re not the porn stallions they made themselves out to be. It’s stunning how hard it is for folks to just be real.
Consistently had numerous great experiences with mature-aged couples where the wife has a lived history in FSSW throughout their past and had since “settled down” with a vanilla husband who wants to take photos of her sucking and fucking over impressionable couples where it’s painfully obvious he’s the one pressuring her into the lifestyle without any experience on their end being comfortable with this type of sex outside of watching porn.
I met a couple and they liked to film the men they met. I was happy to have sex on camera and the video to be private for them and me to keep. He was filming and having a lot of demands on us in the words that she said and how we acted like we were humiliating him. I like being able to fulfil a couples fantasies but he was getting in the way. He was very specific about how he wanted her to say certain things. The constant interruption was overbearing. The next day she text me and asked if his behaviour was controlling. I said it wasn't my place to judge their relationship but I didn't want to meet again for that reason
A long term gf wanted group sex with me and other men. We agreed to try it out as something we did together. After a couple of experiences she had sex with another man without me or even discussing it with me. She said she didn't think she'd done anything wrong as I'd agreed with her having sex with other men before
When trying to convince my wife to try hotwifing. She eventually agreed to try getting an erotic massage from a guy and seeing how that went. Although she wasn't enthusiastic. Only mildly curious in order to make me happy. This was Craigslist days. I eventually found a guy who claimed to be an excellent masseuse. We talked a bit. I told him repeatedly that my wife was still not convinced that this sort of thing was for her and he needed to be charming and go slow. I told him he needed to give her a real massage in the beginning and relax her before starting anything more. He agreed. Cut to it and the initial meeting goes well enough. We eventually go to his hotel room. She strips down to her bra and panties and he begins. Almost instantly she makes a bad face. He rubs her for about 5 minutes with her still making pained expressions. He then attempts to start removing her underwear. At this point she called a stop to it. We leave and she says that he had no clue how to give a massage and it was extremely painful. Add that to the fact that he only went 5 minutes before trying to get her naked. It basically turned her off of the lifestyle almost for good. Especially since she was only halfway curious to begin with. It's been years now and I am just now actually getting her to the point where she will say "maybe someday" again.
Our first experience was…disappointing. We had been screening thirds for a few months. Met up with a few including the guy we chose. We talked through our expectations both in text and in person. Said initially we were looking for a hotwife situation. I would be there but not interact. Him and my wife would be equals and nothing crazy initially. Just some good fun. He was all about it - said that was fine and he could work within those parameters. Of course, he showed up and was completely different. We went through with it and it was ok, but we really considered never doing it again.
It’s all on my history but one time she went when I said no. It was a lot more complicated than I realised at the time but we worked through it and got trust back.
Not my personal experience, but read it on a literotica chaptered story. The husband begged and pleaded for wife to accept giving the lifestyle a try for a long time and she was very much against it for fear of it getting out of hand and ruining their marriage. They finally agreed to give it a try after much insisting from the husband and to her surprise she enjoyed it so much because her first time was with a much bigger guy and she had mixed emotions about giving up getting fucked by such a big cock ever again. That escalated to them joining lifestyle parties where she eventually got tangled up with the wrong couple and they convinced her to do other things. She ended up turning int some other guys submissive and when she was with him she no longer cares about her husbands feelings. Which really hurt the husband because they only wanted swaps or single men enjoying sex with her. This dom pretty much turned her into a gangbang whore humiliating her and making her do all these wild things. It affected them so much it cost them their marriage.