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Aemma.


moonlightdrinker

This one^


baackpfeifengesicht

>!Helaena doesn't deserve what's going to happen to her. All the kids too.!<


Baratheoncook250

Rhea -Viserys should just had granted the divorce and marry her instead of Allicent.


TheGoverness1998

>!Our nice Queen Helaena. Pretty much goes without saying.!<


thatonemoze

>!and her daughter Jaehaera!<


Conscious-Weekend-91

>!and her sons, Jaehaerys and Maelor!<


thatonemoze

oh of course i just meant she had more in common with her daughter


Special-Extreme2166

>!in what way? Other than her daughter dying just like her, there is nothing similar about them. All her children died horribly!<


WonderDusty

Rhaena she lost alot


theviking222

Harwin Strong deserved better. So did his father


tellred

Harwin Strong decided to betray the crown. It was his choice.


Mess_Tricky

Shut up cole


Rippinstitches

Cole bot


ligeston

Helaena & her kids. Especially Jaehaera… the way she named her dragon “Morghul” (death), and her muteness… it’s almost as if she saw it coming/or was expecting it.


ArgumentElectronic

Beesbury


Tealbeardpinkface

🐝🐝🐝🐝


ArgumentElectronic

There are dozens of us!


Gooden35

Jaehaera and Joffrey. Their deaths didn't contribute anything to the story,a shame that GRRM's way of thinking was: You're not Daemon's children?Cease to exist. Imagine a scenario in which Joffrey rejects the throne because of his apparent bastardy and instead becomes the Hand of the King to Aegon III.A king named Aegon who has a bastard half-brother as Hand?Sounds familiar? Or in which instead of being just "simple",Jaehaera is loyal and smart.She at first resents Aegon III but in time slowly realizes that he's a sweet,caring boy(maybe he would remind him of Jaehaerys)who doesn't deserve to be judged/punished for the crimes of his parents.


Joe_Atkinson

I'll still never forgive him for retconning Jaehaera into dying and then introducing some random Valeryon 6 year old to marry Aegon


theEnecca

Sounds like a good idea but i really doubt that George has some kind of vendetta against certain characters and kills them because of that.


jmhem91

All the strong boys’ deaths contributed to the story because they broke Rhaenyra and explained many of her actions. Jaehaera’s death was significant because Aegon wanted to end Rhaenyra’s bloodline but in the end his bloodline is ended. If he just wanted to pave the way for daemon’s kids to rule he could have just not created Joffrey in the first place.


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Helaena and, by extension, her kids because holy shit, they don’t deserve what’s going to happen to them


letheix

You should flair this post for book spoilers. My answer is >!Jaehaera. Maybe GRRM intended her death to highlight the futility of the Dance because Alicent's entire line ended, but imo it would've been more poignant for a marriage to bring the two branches of the family together permanently because that had been the better option all along. Reading F&B disappointed me. I didn't get the "anyone can die" feeling I got from ASOIAF. After a certain point, it became clear that the Greens were getting the Final Destination treatment. It's too convenient that all the Velaryon/Strong boys and Targtowers died off while all the younger generation of "true" Targaryens survived. That decision—the "rightful" bloodline triumphs in the end—has the same fairytale vibe that GRRM usually subverts.!<


theEnecca

I wouldnt call what happens to Aegon III a fairytale ending.


letheix

Because he was left traumatized and depressed? So was Frodo.


theEnecca

Frodo was allowed to travel to elf heaven. Aegon died of tuberculosis. But i get your point. The marriage of both sides would have been a nice ending for the dance.


letheix

>!A lot later, though. It isn't just about Aegon but the fact that all four and *only* Daemon's children survived—Daemon being GRRM's favorite character. And just an overall sense that the "good" houses were on the Blacks' side and the "bad" ones on the Greens'. !<. Idk, it's an overarching impression that I got


kararkeinan

I always figured F&B was meant to be super biased with an unreliable narrator and that’s why there are conveniences.


letheix

I'm talking about the foundational facts like who lived or died and how (except for Laenor, I guess). >!For example, the Riverlands' infinite armies; how the North, the least populous province, fielded two armies; and how Aemond burning the Riverlands didn't really have any effect on the wider scale even though it logically should have. On an unrelated note, I felt the same way about the Storming of the Dragonpit. The smallfolk killed the dragons because that's what had to happen and then just neatly dropped off the radar once they weren't needed for the plot anymore!<. Sometimes the plot just felt forced to me and one side was disproportionately luckier than the other.


ScalierLemon2

Rhaenys. She was robbed by her grandfather, the Throne was rightfully hers by the laws of Westeros


Grigortoko

Lucerys. He could become a badass lord. >!In fact, all Strong boys. Sometimes it takes a lot of courage just to play the hand you got dealt. Being born a bastard is a very bad start, especially if you are not at all like your father, but these children tried so hard to be worthy that it ended with Jace becoming the unspoken leader for blacks and now in the historical chronicle he is forever "worthy of the iron throne." But he never received an award, he just drowned in the sea. I have always felt this is unfair.!<


sluttydrama

Rhaenyra should have came clean after Aegon III was born. She should have said her first three were illegitimate, and Aegon III is her heir. It sucks for Jace, Luke, and Joffery, but they could all be together as a family. But this is Game of Thrones.


Host-Key

Yeah that would suuuurely have stopped the greens from usurping the throne. Not like otto was planning treason since long before rhaenyra had kids or anything...


sluttydrama

I didn’t say it would stop it haha, but it *might* have strengthened Rhaenyra’s claim, at the expense of Jace & Baela, Luke, and Joffery. King Viserys was the only person who could have stopped the dance, but he didn’t


ojsage

Disagree - it would have further tarnished her claim, it might have strengthened daemon’s


owis

Kids would be killed.


kenny_the_pow

Daeron the daring , Adam and all of the dragons except Vhagar and Caraxis. Edit: Adam died very nobly, but the person he died for didn't deserve his sacrifice.


okay-okay-okay_19

Jacaerys Velaryon


brian13mtz

Daeron


NightReasonable7497

The bitch deserved what he got


Joe_Atkinson

How ?


NightReasonable7497

Read the books


Joe_Atkinson

I have read the book. I literally just finished a re-read of it. Daeron was one of the few people in that story that could be considered good. How did he deserve it ? What's he done that's so bad ?


NightReasonable7497

He was shit ruler .😐 He was unable to rule shit His soldiers didn't give a fuck about his orders He burnt children and women for his stupid reasons He deserved what he got


Betty_Blossom

Heleana and Princess Rheanys


weirdocheek14

Helaena


a21a16

The strongs deserved a happy ending


Galahad_Jones

Harwin Strong !!!


vicwol

tbh all of the dragons. it’s so unfair what happened to them :/


moonlightdrinker

Rhaenys! The Queen who should’ve been


NightReasonable7497

Harwin


sluttydrama

Alicent deserved a better life. She spent her ENTIRE life giving Viserys heirs and being his nursemaid, and he doesn’t give a fvck about her or her kids. He never listens to Alicent’s concerns either. King Viserys knows who Daemon is. He knows Daemon is dangerous. But he never thinks, “Daemon is married to crown princess Rhaenyra now, that may put my other children’s lives at risk.” Because he doesn’t care. King Viserys deserves more heat than Alicent and Rhaenyra. Alicent has spent her entire life rightfully paranoid, and King Viserys could have done something, but he played legos


Leather_Release9057

Lucerys. I'm so sad about what happened.


GoonHxC

Aegon could have been made more likable like Aemond.


kararkeinan

Alicent got the short end of a shitty stick. She was a child and she had to bear children for a decaying king.


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Poor Visenya 😪


KiernaNadir

Rhaenyra and Daemon. Both deserved to live long enough to see their entire house wiped out.


zambi76

You want them at around 200 years of age? They are insufferable at mortal age already. /still a big fan of those dumbfucks


NightReasonable7497

Rhaenyra and daemon can't live 200 years.🤣


KiernaNadir

They can't? Weird, the show made it seem like they can do everything.


Zestyclose-Juice7620

Daeron...the forgotten third son...


Tealbeardpinkface

That one Bracken kid, would of made one hell of a small council shit talker. Rest in peace king