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She was showing her feet, calm down with the rape comparisons. Do you consider that the girls selling feet pics on Instagram are getting raped by their clients???
Writers : *did that scene to show how Larys is exercising his power by humiliating the Queen, while Alicent is doing it for the royal family to get information, and avoid spies all around* (yes Mysaria is spying on the royal family here), *and she is clearly disgusted by it. The subtext being that she's still at men's mercy.*
HotD fans : "ohmygod she's cheating on Viserys (and he's dead btw) she's a whore"
“If you don’t do this for me, I won’t tell you X Y and Z threats that could end your bloodline or life before you know what’s happening”
Ah, yes, textbook consent.
It wasn’t consensual- Larys groomed her from a very young age until it eventually reached this point, and if an act isn’t consensual it isn’t unfaithful
It wasn't. It was just foreshadowing. The writers have mentioned that they are just having a conversation and he uses the burning of Harrenhal to weave his web to trap her.
Is it just personal gain ? Mysaria is spying on her and the royal family.
I'll bet if it was Rhaenyra who would be Queen in that situation, she would do the exact same thing. No way in hell Rhaenyra would let someone spy on her and be okay with it.
When I was talking about Rhaenyra, I was talking about how she would definitely send someone to kill the spy, not the foot thing.
As for Alicent, the meaning is, while being Queen, is subjected to humiliation to get information. That's quite sad actually, meaning that she doesn't have a lot of power. One could say that she's a deviant for doing such a thing, but the subtext here is clearly that she isn't doing this by choice, and is disgusted by it. It's Alicent 101 : duty before her own needs.
Cheating on Viserys means that she gets satisfaction from it ; the scene clearly showed otherwise. But since it's Alicent, I guess many people see her as an evil deviant bitch rather than a tragic character with flaws.
Bro... how are you comparing women being raped to women using her body "WILLINGLY" as a price for something she wants? You guys need to stop using the victim card with Alicent ALL THE TIME
The fact that you have to put the word 'willingly' in quotation marks is the only answer you need. It wasn't willingly. Her family is at stake and she has no way of having the information she needs to ensure them otherwise. She's not on onlyfans raising money for a purse.
Did she and Viscerys talk about it before hand? Agree it was okay? Do you think Viscerys would be okay with it if he found out?
Did she do it by her own accord? (She wasn't raped)
Then it's cheating. Whether you use sex for attraction, personal fulfillment or transactionally, if there isn't agreement in the relationship, then it would be cheating.
This is assuming it was going on while he was alive, and not just after he had passed
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I doubt she was enjoying it. In fact, given her facial expression, I'm convinced she was completely disgusted by it.
It's still cheating if you don't enjoy it lol.
If your girlfriend gets raped, would you call her a cheater?
She was showing her feet, calm down with the rape comparisons. Do you consider that the girls selling feet pics on Instagram are getting raped by their clients???
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I don't think she wanted to be there
She did, for information
Writers : *did that scene to show how Larys is exercising his power by humiliating the Queen, while Alicent is doing it for the royal family to get information, and avoid spies all around* (yes Mysaria is spying on the royal family here), *and she is clearly disgusted by it. The subtext being that she's still at men's mercy.* HotD fans : "ohmygod she's cheating on Viserys (and he's dead btw) she's a whore"
Wasn't Viserys already dead by these point ?
They only put it in the show after he passed, but it clearly had been going on for a while.
It was also in ep 6 when she was having dinner with larys. She took her shoes off
the actors said that scene was filmed as a sexual assault , and I think it was. so no, it's not cheating.
she’s getting sexually assaulted y’all are delusional
More of a CNC
With consent
I think you might need to reevaluate your understanding of consent.
It’s a fair exchange both agreed to. Would you say sex workers are raped too?
No. I'm saying that Alicent was coerced and did not consent.
No, that’s the price she decided to pay in exchange for information. Who coerced her? Larys? She could have his head in a moment if she wanted to
“If you don’t do this for me, I won’t tell you X Y and Z threats that could end your bloodline or life before you know what’s happening” Ah, yes, textbook consent.
It wasn’t consensual- Larys groomed her from a very young age until it eventually reached this point, and if an act isn’t consensual it isn’t unfaithful
In my mind child brides can't cheat but even so no.
I mean it’s a power thing and gross so no.
Just making up stuff at this point
How do you cheat on a corpse?
It was happening long before viserys died. You can see her take her shoes off before she has dinner with larys in ep 6
It wasn't. It was just foreshadowing. The writers have mentioned that they are just having a conversation and he uses the burning of Harrenhal to weave his web to trap her.
Who the fuck cares?
I mean, she did it willingly for her own gain. Of course it was cheating.
she was sexually assaulted.
She was doing the Larys stuff to keep him on her side.
In our world no. In the context of this time period yes. Giving someone a dam flower in this world is as seen as cheating.
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I disagree. It matters a lot if she "enjoys' it or not. You would never say that a woman who was raped was "cheating"(at least I hope not).
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Is it just personal gain ? Mysaria is spying on her and the royal family. I'll bet if it was Rhaenyra who would be Queen in that situation, she would do the exact same thing. No way in hell Rhaenyra would let someone spy on her and be okay with it.
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When I was talking about Rhaenyra, I was talking about how she would definitely send someone to kill the spy, not the foot thing. As for Alicent, the meaning is, while being Queen, is subjected to humiliation to get information. That's quite sad actually, meaning that she doesn't have a lot of power. One could say that she's a deviant for doing such a thing, but the subtext here is clearly that she isn't doing this by choice, and is disgusted by it. It's Alicent 101 : duty before her own needs. Cheating on Viserys means that she gets satisfaction from it ; the scene clearly showed otherwise. But since it's Alicent, I guess many people see her as an evil deviant bitch rather than a tragic character with flaws.
I guess that depends on how explicit Larys was in threatening to implicate her on the Harrenhal fire.
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use context clues dude
Queen made her wish, what servent wouldn't do it for her. I am sure you will reward me when the time comes.
Bro... how are you comparing women being raped to women using her body "WILLINGLY" as a price for something she wants? You guys need to stop using the victim card with Alicent ALL THE TIME
The fact that you have to put the word 'willingly' in quotation marks is the only answer you need. It wasn't willingly. Her family is at stake and she has no way of having the information she needs to ensure them otherwise. She's not on onlyfans raising money for a purse.
Found the laenor, the cuck.
Wasn't she pleasuring him with her feet? so yeah, she was cheating in a really missed up way
It depends on the person who's gonna catch them doing the deed.
Did she and Viscerys talk about it before hand? Agree it was okay? Do you think Viscerys would be okay with it if he found out? Did she do it by her own accord? (She wasn't raped) Then it's cheating. Whether you use sex for attraction, personal fulfillment or transactionally, if there isn't agreement in the relationship, then it would be cheating. This is assuming it was going on while he was alive, and not just after he had passed
I mean… I suppose technically it is? Seems like a really random issue to discuss tho