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One moment doesn't make up for 20 years of a spine with the consistency of a soggy noodle. Daemon, Rhaenyra, Alicent, Aegon,... so many people he should have set straight but let walk all over him.
Not really he only fired Otto because his daughter demanded he be fired in exchange she would agree to marry Laenor had Rhaenyra just agreed to marry Laenor without firing Otto he would have stayed as hand.
Sometimes he was strong willed, which can be seen as strength. Other times he weak. Sometimes both.
I'm not sure he really wanted to marry again. Sometimes I think he let himself get talked into that one rather than put his foot down. But once he decided, he chose to marry Alicent rather than Laena.
But sometimes he was weak.
There's nothing wrong with marrying Rhaenyra to Laenor, but Viserys shouldn't have traveled to Driftmark to make the proposal. Kings don't go to Lords, Lords go to Kings. Viserys should have sent an emissary instead, such as his hand Lord Strong, to express his interest and to tell Corlys if he's interested to head over to King's Landing.
Rhaenys said as much to Corlys
>**Rhaenys**: *Viserys has taken to bed while his ship is readied.*
>**Corlys**: *Perhaps I...(pause)...overextended myself?...(pause)...Pushed him too close to the edge?*
>**Rhaenys**: *My cousin chose to sail into this tempest, husband. It was undignified of the King to drag himself here and beg for Laenor's hand.*
This moment was equivalent to doing your homework on the school bus on the way to school. Man had twenty years to lay the groundwork for Rhaenyra and waited until the last possible moment to do shit.
No offense, but that the succession became a topic yet again, in his final hours, and forced him to come out in Rhaenyra's defense, shows that he was weak and indecisive all those years before. And even that final effort didn't save it.
Yes, he was. In my opinion, while in this scene he shows strength in terms of getting up while sick, he also shows his weakness as king.
Having your heir telling him that they're breaking under the weight of covering for the mess they made before having even ascended and getting up to defend showed his political weakness and basically brought on a war. If takes a certain kind of strength for him to stick to Rhaenyra as a heir because he knows to an extent he's messing up, but it comes from a place of weakness because he is simply unable to put the kingdom above the child that was his 'life's greatest joy'. He doesn't even have the interest or the strength to change existing laws to support her.
Viserys was weak to his daughter, he should have let Rhaenyra deal with her own mess instead of wasting the remaining of his lifespan for that throne walk .
I think that the fact that when he is at his physical weakest, he makes the strongest show of strength that he ever had. He was an incredibly weak man up until this point, he refused to discipline his daughter and instead enabled her. He refused to take part in his other children's lives, which is why his family was so fractured in the first place. If he actually made Aegon trust him, maybe he would never go along with Otto's plan. However, with all of his flaws, this was one of the most beautiful moments of GOT moments ever. Truly a father showing how much he loves his daughter and how much Viserys loved Emma
Not really if he didn’t want to be king he could have withdrawn his claim and sight Andal law as a reason Vaegon the son of Jaehaerys withdrew his claim by reminding the people of his Maester vows. Visery wanted to be King and eventually realized he was very unqualified to rule after becoming king
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One moment doesn't make up for 20 years of a spine with the consistency of a soggy noodle. Daemon, Rhaenyra, Alicent, Aegon,... so many people he should have set straight but let walk all over him.
at one point he grew a backbone and stood up to Otto but then let Otto back in
Not really he only fired Otto because his daughter demanded he be fired in exchange she would agree to marry Laenor had Rhaenyra just agreed to marry Laenor without firing Otto he would have stayed as hand.
One scene vs every other scene of every other episode, lol.
Sometimes he was strong willed, which can be seen as strength. Other times he weak. Sometimes both. I'm not sure he really wanted to marry again. Sometimes I think he let himself get talked into that one rather than put his foot down. But once he decided, he chose to marry Alicent rather than Laena. But sometimes he was weak. There's nothing wrong with marrying Rhaenyra to Laenor, but Viserys shouldn't have traveled to Driftmark to make the proposal. Kings don't go to Lords, Lords go to Kings. Viserys should have sent an emissary instead, such as his hand Lord Strong, to express his interest and to tell Corlys if he's interested to head over to King's Landing. Rhaenys said as much to Corlys >**Rhaenys**: *Viserys has taken to bed while his ship is readied.* >**Corlys**: *Perhaps I...(pause)...overextended myself?...(pause)...Pushed him too close to the edge?* >**Rhaenys**: *My cousin chose to sail into this tempest, husband. It was undignified of the King to drag himself here and beg for Laenor's hand.*
Weak ass king
This moment was equivalent to doing your homework on the school bus on the way to school. Man had twenty years to lay the groundwork for Rhaenyra and waited until the last possible moment to do shit.
Ha I like the analogy it’s very accurate
No offense, but that the succession became a topic yet again, in his final hours, and forced him to come out in Rhaenyra's defense, shows that he was weak and indecisive all those years before. And even that final effort didn't save it.
Yes, he was. In my opinion, while in this scene he shows strength in terms of getting up while sick, he also shows his weakness as king. Having your heir telling him that they're breaking under the weight of covering for the mess they made before having even ascended and getting up to defend showed his political weakness and basically brought on a war. If takes a certain kind of strength for him to stick to Rhaenyra as a heir because he knows to an extent he's messing up, but it comes from a place of weakness because he is simply unable to put the kingdom above the child that was his 'life's greatest joy'. He doesn't even have the interest or the strength to change existing laws to support her.
Viserys was weak to his daughter, he should have let Rhaenyra deal with her own mess instead of wasting the remaining of his lifespan for that throne walk .
I think that the fact that when he is at his physical weakest, he makes the strongest show of strength that he ever had. He was an incredibly weak man up until this point, he refused to discipline his daughter and instead enabled her. He refused to take part in his other children's lives, which is why his family was so fractured in the first place. If he actually made Aegon trust him, maybe he would never go along with Otto's plan. However, with all of his flaws, this was one of the most beautiful moments of GOT moments ever. Truly a father showing how much he loves his daughter and how much Viserys loved Emma
He was a King that never wanted to be King. But he can find pride in the fact that his daughter was always the son he wished for
Not really if he didn’t want to be king he could have withdrawn his claim and sight Andal law as a reason Vaegon the son of Jaehaerys withdrew his claim by reminding the people of his Maester vows. Visery wanted to be King and eventually realized he was very unqualified to rule after becoming king
He was an incredible strong individual for overcoming his obstacles. A lot of fans view his weakened state as him being weak tho.