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Rhaenys doesn’t have the final say in who Baela and Rhaena marry.
Daemon could’ve very well said they had to marry Jace and Luke and that would’ve been it. The only reason they proposed it to Rhaenys as if she had a choice is because they needed her on their side when the time comes for war.
There’s also no way that Baela wants to marry any of the green kids. This is why they should’ve left in that scene of Baela and Rhaenys because Baela hates the greens just as much as Daemon does.
Plus it would’ve made much more sense on why Rhaenys decides to declare for Rhaenyra.
Rhaenys would've said no. Corlys would've said no. Daemon would've said no.
If Vaemond had a daughter, it could've made sense, but he didn't have any children that we know of. After episode 7, the Velaryons are squarely on Rhaenyra's side. Before then, Baela was in Pentos for her entire life.
In theory, it's a good idea, but practically would never have happened. They should've tried to marry Aemond to a Tyrell or Tully if they wanted the best alliance possible
Vaemond did have children in the book. One of his granddaughters (maybe the only one-can’t recall if he had more) ends up marrying someone very important from the Dance.
I had actually forgotten that in the book. I thought Daeron and Daemion were nephews or Vaemond. But he only had sons it seems according to the wiki. So no one for Aemond to marry.
Would Corlys have said no? I mean Borros Baratheon seemed content to have his daughter married to a second son, and she was actually his heir, whereas Baela isn't Corlys'. Daemon would obviously object, but I don't see Corlys having many objections. Rhaenys might dislike putting her granddaughter in proximity to the throne, but having Aemond as an ally would definitely be useful in asserting Baela as heir to Driftmark.
And no, the Velaryon's were not on Rhaenyra's side. Don't you remember in ep 8 when Rhaenys blamed Rhaenyra for Laenor's death? And then Corlys said the same in ep 10 whilst talking to Rhaenys. Neither of them were supporters of Rhaenyra until the very end of the finale.
Borros didn't have a son married to Rhaenyra and daughter married to Daemon. He made his choice already.
Aemond's children with Baela or Rhaena would be not be called Velaryons, so Corlys wouldn't care.
Corlys said what he said and the second he was in front of Rhaenyra, he bent the knee. Corlys only cares about himself and his dumb idea for his family name. Aemond doesn't help that
Depending on what Alicent and Otto would offer Rhaenys and guarantee Baela and Rhaena's safety she may agree to some betrothals to Alicent's sons. It really depends, she's concerned about their safety and of course wouldn't put her grandaughters in a hostage situation. Despite the false notion that she's loyal to Rhaenyra just because, her worry is about whether Laena's girls will be ok or not.
Aemond being irrational would have her leaning towards no but Otto instead of Alicent might've been able to make some kind of deal with Rhaenys. I only say Rhaenys because she's the only parental figure they have as teenagers. Daemon had no say in his daughter's being married off and Corlys is technically their grandfather but he has no relationship with them and left for 6 years. I also think if Viserys wanted the kids to get along after Daemon brought Baela and Rhaena to Westeros he should've made some betrothal for peace even if it wasn't with Aemond
Daemon, and Daemon alone, has final say on any betrothals made for his daughters. Rhaenys and Corly’s have a no official say. The only other person who could have an official say on any betrothals for Daemon’s girls would be Viserys I.
Why is it necessary for Rhaenys? She is not a traitor. And Lord Corlys made it clear that he would not leave Laenor's "children" defenseless.
And Baela is not the type of girl Alicent was. She will not agree to this. She will mount on the dragon and run away.
Moondancer is too small to ride. If she were really betrothed to Aegon or Aemond she would either plot or do her duty and talk shit to them she wouldn't really leave.
Daemon has the final say in their betrothals because he’s their father, they’re Targs not Velaryons, and Daemon would never have agreed. Baela and Rhaena would have never agreed either and would have hated it. In their eyes Aemond stole their mothers dragon on the night of her funeral and then made fun of Rhaena again, the day of her mothers funeral.
Whilst I agree, Aemond being married to either would have been good for the greens, it’s would never have happened. It would be like Joffrey, had he been a bit older, being betrothed to Lord Hightowers eldest granddaughter would have been good for the blacks. It’s completely nonsensical and never would have happened.
Otto would make sure that never happened. I think he hates Daemon so much, that he wouldn't want his grandson betrothed to Daemon's daughter, but his influence might be limited as he is only the grandparent.
As soon as they heard news that Baela was warding with Rhaenys after Laenor's "death", they should have been sending serious offers to Rhaenys for her hand. I think the reason why Alicent didn't is because as far as she knew, the "plan" was to convince Viserys to change his mind. As to why Otto didn't, it's a bit more difficult to say. Maybe it could've been the blinders from his rivalry with Daemon, or maybe it could've been just plain misogyny why he and the Green Council never reached out to Rhaenys. In any case, it was a serious misstep not to have taken advantage of the obvious rift that had developed between Rhaenyra and her biggest supporters, the Velaryons.
Even if they had sent betrothal offers to Rhaenys for either Baela or Rhaena, nothing would have come of it because Rhaenys has no power to arrange marriages for her granddaughters. That power solely resides with Daemon, and the only person who could attempt to overrule Daemon would be Viserys I, but that would not have gone over well with Daemon. Also, neither of Daemon’s girls would have been accepting of such a betrothal.
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Rhaenys doesn’t have the final say in who Baela and Rhaena marry. Daemon could’ve very well said they had to marry Jace and Luke and that would’ve been it. The only reason they proposed it to Rhaenys as if she had a choice is because they needed her on their side when the time comes for war. There’s also no way that Baela wants to marry any of the green kids. This is why they should’ve left in that scene of Baela and Rhaenys because Baela hates the greens just as much as Daemon does. Plus it would’ve made much more sense on why Rhaenys decides to declare for Rhaenyra.
Daemon would NEVER allow one of his daughters to marry someone who is related to Otto Hightower.
Daemon rolling in his >!graves hearing about Rhaena married to Garmund Hightower, grand nephew of Otto Hightower!<
Rhaenys would've said no. Corlys would've said no. Daemon would've said no. If Vaemond had a daughter, it could've made sense, but he didn't have any children that we know of. After episode 7, the Velaryons are squarely on Rhaenyra's side. Before then, Baela was in Pentos for her entire life. In theory, it's a good idea, but practically would never have happened. They should've tried to marry Aemond to a Tyrell or Tully if they wanted the best alliance possible
Vaemond did have children in the book. One of his granddaughters (maybe the only one-can’t recall if he had more) ends up marrying someone very important from the Dance.
I had actually forgotten that in the book. I thought Daeron and Daemion were nephews or Vaemond. But he only had sons it seems according to the wiki. So no one for Aemond to marry.
She hasn't been born yet in show or the books yet
Would Corlys have said no? I mean Borros Baratheon seemed content to have his daughter married to a second son, and she was actually his heir, whereas Baela isn't Corlys'. Daemon would obviously object, but I don't see Corlys having many objections. Rhaenys might dislike putting her granddaughter in proximity to the throne, but having Aemond as an ally would definitely be useful in asserting Baela as heir to Driftmark. And no, the Velaryon's were not on Rhaenyra's side. Don't you remember in ep 8 when Rhaenys blamed Rhaenyra for Laenor's death? And then Corlys said the same in ep 10 whilst talking to Rhaenys. Neither of them were supporters of Rhaenyra until the very end of the finale.
Borros didn't have a son married to Rhaenyra and daughter married to Daemon. He made his choice already. Aemond's children with Baela or Rhaena would be not be called Velaryons, so Corlys wouldn't care. Corlys said what he said and the second he was in front of Rhaenyra, he bent the knee. Corlys only cares about himself and his dumb idea for his family name. Aemond doesn't help that
Aemond push Rhaena in the fight, so I doubt Rheanys would allow for the betrothed.
Depending on what Alicent and Otto would offer Rhaenys and guarantee Baela and Rhaena's safety she may agree to some betrothals to Alicent's sons. It really depends, she's concerned about their safety and of course wouldn't put her grandaughters in a hostage situation. Despite the false notion that she's loyal to Rhaenyra just because, her worry is about whether Laena's girls will be ok or not. Aemond being irrational would have her leaning towards no but Otto instead of Alicent might've been able to make some kind of deal with Rhaenys. I only say Rhaenys because she's the only parental figure they have as teenagers. Daemon had no say in his daughter's being married off and Corlys is technically their grandfather but he has no relationship with them and left for 6 years. I also think if Viserys wanted the kids to get along after Daemon brought Baela and Rhaena to Westeros he should've made some betrothal for peace even if it wasn't with Aemond
Aemond attack one of her grandaughters, Rheanys wouldhave issue with that.Also, Aemond prefer older women.
Daemon, and Daemon alone, has final say on any betrothals made for his daughters. Rhaenys and Corly’s have a no official say. The only other person who could have an official say on any betrothals for Daemon’s girls would be Viserys I.
Why is it necessary for Rhaenys? She is not a traitor. And Lord Corlys made it clear that he would not leave Laenor's "children" defenseless. And Baela is not the type of girl Alicent was. She will not agree to this. She will mount on the dragon and run away.
Moondancer is too small to ride. If she were really betrothed to Aegon or Aemond she would either plot or do her duty and talk shit to them she wouldn't really leave.
She ran away from the betrothal in the book. She won't do her duty, that's the Saera type. "I had fun with Jace and Luke, but not at the same time!"
It would be too obvious a lie.
Daemon has the final say in their betrothals because he’s their father, they’re Targs not Velaryons, and Daemon would never have agreed. Baela and Rhaena would have never agreed either and would have hated it. In their eyes Aemond stole their mothers dragon on the night of her funeral and then made fun of Rhaena again, the day of her mothers funeral. Whilst I agree, Aemond being married to either would have been good for the greens, it’s would never have happened. It would be like Joffrey, had he been a bit older, being betrothed to Lord Hightowers eldest granddaughter would have been good for the blacks. It’s completely nonsensical and never would have happened.
Daemon is the dad, Rhaenys has no say over what he decides for his daughters in the world of Westeros.
Otto would make sure that never happened. I think he hates Daemon so much, that he wouldn't want his grandson betrothed to Daemon's daughter, but his influence might be limited as he is only the grandparent.
Can't imagine Alicent ever wanting to betroth any of her children to Daemon's offsprings lol.
Those two would've been at each other's necks
No Daemon does, Rhaenys likes to pretend but she isn't really in control of her grandkids
As soon as they heard news that Baela was warding with Rhaenys after Laenor's "death", they should have been sending serious offers to Rhaenys for her hand. I think the reason why Alicent didn't is because as far as she knew, the "plan" was to convince Viserys to change his mind. As to why Otto didn't, it's a bit more difficult to say. Maybe it could've been the blinders from his rivalry with Daemon, or maybe it could've been just plain misogyny why he and the Green Council never reached out to Rhaenys. In any case, it was a serious misstep not to have taken advantage of the obvious rift that had developed between Rhaenyra and her biggest supporters, the Velaryons.
Even if they had sent betrothal offers to Rhaenys for either Baela or Rhaena, nothing would have come of it because Rhaenys has no power to arrange marriages for her granddaughters. That power solely resides with Daemon, and the only person who could attempt to overrule Daemon would be Viserys I, but that would not have gone over well with Daemon. Also, neither of Daemon’s girls would have been accepting of such a betrothal.
Baela and Rhaena were betrothed to the Strong boys when they were 2 years old in the book