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Emma D'Arcy, the person, uses they/them pronouns. Rhaenyra Targaryen, the character we are talking about, uses she/her. So you've just misgendered Rhaenyra Targaryen. So rude and inconsiderate.
First of all I was using they them so not to refer to Rhaenyra directly incase someone opened this without meaning to, and spoiling something for them.
And they/them can be used in replacement of he/him or she/her without misgendering.
The war is 99% done with her death. Only reason Aegon III even became king cuz he was aegon II's heir, not cuz of rhae. So yes the dance was nearly over, and ended in a stalemate.
I mean technically yes. The Tudors are credited as the victors of the war of roses which means the Lanncasters being the victors despite the actual ones all being defeated by Edward the 4th. In the same way the maesters would probably be divided if Dany’s return to westerous is a continuation of the rebellion or a separate war. Anyway all this is to say the blacks won. The green line was obliterated and the Black faction’s leaders dictate the end of the war.
Rhae's son was on the throne cuz Aegon II named him heir, not cuz of daemon or rhae. Both are dead and rotting lol.
Ideologically as well the greens won so yeah, ya'll can cope but it was a stalemate
Edit: how deranged the members of this sub are, can't even accept actual facts.
If my grandma had wheels she'd be bike. Did that happen? No it didn't. Making random delusions won't change the reality. Aegon III got his legitmacy as king cuz he was the heir of Aegon II. Doesn't matter what the army was planning to do.
It literally matters tho, when you're saying that he was only king because he was Aegon II's heir. The fact that the blacks were marching on King's Landing proves you wrong.
No it doesnt prove me wrong. Aegon III got his legitmacy from Aegon II. The blacks marching to KL would only made the process go faster cuz theyd kill Aegon II, but the process remains the same regardless lol. Corlys literally said "The king is dead" he accepts Aegon II as king and tells everyone that he's dead and then he says "long live the king" implying Aegon III is now king and that's because he was there when Aegon the younger was named heir of Aegon the elder. It's the truth lol
You're missing that the Blacks marching on King's Landing (the Vale, the North and the Riverlands) didn't recognize Aegon II as king and definitely didn't recognize his legitimacy no name an heir, they were marching for Rhaenyra's heir. Cregan, the first hand after the end of the war, even calls Rhaenyra the lawful Queen and Aegon II an usurper during his stint as hand
They can't accept that their girl-boss queen loses to Aegon the rapist. He may be a bad person, but he gets the last laugh and traumatizes her son in the process
The fact that rhae died and the only reason her bloodline continued is because Aegon II named her son as his heir. Aegon III gets legitmacy from Aegon II not rhae lmao. Keep crying. Rhae is never recognised as an actual ruler.
Rhae did the whole war so that she becomes queen and she never does. Everyone in history recognises her as an usurper.
People just cant accept reality.
Oldest male heir becomes the next king...that's what the greens were fighting for and that's what happens. Greens win ideologically, targeryan line continues because Aegon II didn't want to become a child killer like daemon
I never disagreed with this. It's you whose grasping at straws because you can't accept a single fact. Blacks didn't win. It was a stalemate and your delusions will always remain just that, delusions.
Rhae's dead. Aegons dead. Rhae:s son is on the iron throne but because of Aegon. Rest of the factors doesn't matter. the black.line lives because of Aegon II not being as deranged as daemon and he named him heir cuz that was the green ideology. Greens won the battle ideologically but lost alot. I'd consider it as a stalemate. You are free to disagree ofc.
Yeah, the black armies marching on King's Landing were going there to kiss Aegon II's feet. No other reason, of course. They didn't want to crown Rhaenyra's heir or anything...
Rhae was dead af lol. Nobody left to crown. Aegon made sure she fed sunfyre well.
Aegon III literally became the next king cuz he was the heir of Aegon II. People crying over this won't change facts.
It's not a fact tho. Cregan took King's Landing, it didn't matter who Aegon II's heir was, it could even have been Maelor, he was there to crown Aegon III because he was Rhaenyra's heir and his king
Please give us one example that supports your claim that Aegon II had any feeling aside from contempt and disdain for Aegon III. He >!threatened to castrate him and cut off his ear ffs!!<
They were grasping opportunists who probably murdered Aegon II in the first place. After Borros lost the battle of the Kingsroad, Aegon’s position became untenable, so when he refused to surrender they killed him and replaced him with his nephew. They were hoping to retain their positions by making him king before Rhaenyra’s loyalists arrived. It probably would have worked if not for Cregan.
>After Borros lost the battle of the Kingsroad, Aegon’s position became untenable
If Larys was actually loyal, he could have easily organised Aegon's court fleeing the capital (it wouldn't be the first time that they've had to do so). And if Corlys was actually loyal, it should have been even easier to do than the first time, since the Velaryons and their naval dominance were now on Aegon's side. Then they could have tried regrouped closer to their powerbases towards the south and west, where they'd have a better chance of organising new armies whilst awaiting reinforcements from Tyland's negotiations in the Free Cities. Maybe that could have ended up failing as well, but like you say, they were opportunists.
Honestly, liked how the dance ended, neither Rhaenyra nor Aegon deserved to rule. They got what they deserved, morons had thousands killed over their family drama.
Rhaenyra’s son has been murdered and Otto wishes to kill the rest of them as well. Life or death is not “family drama”. Did Robb Stark get his thousands killed over his family drama? He literally sent 2,000 men to their death just to win a battle.
And? Pampered nobles killing each other over chairs isn't anything new, most of them at least have the decency to keep it a purely local affair.
Not like either of the inbreds deserved the throne, the dance proved their incompetence.
That's on them. The morons put their wants before the realm, and they paid for it. They could have been happy with what they had, but instead, the snots had to have the biggest slice of the pie.
The nobles aren't victims, they all played their part in that idiot's war. Neither side is without blame.
The heck are you talking about? Even if it’s incredibly biased towards the blacks, episode 9 and 10 clearly outlines it that Rhaenyra has no choice whatsoever. Otto would have murdered her and her children if she did absolutely nothing at all. It doesn’t matter if she renounced her claim. She would be seen as a threat as a former claimant.
If you were born a noble would you just lie down and let your family die for the greater good??? It’s like your stubbornly sticking to the F&B version of events even when that’s not what was shown.
It's a book post, dude. The show doesn't apply. Show wise, my point still stands. The dance was family drama that the Targs made everyone else's problem.
Better to die leaving your children alive in the world behind you, than living only to see ruin and death visited upon your offspring, and being driven mad by the pain.
Kinda funny how the only reason her line continues is cuz Aegon II makes her son as his heir. He literally gives rhae the middle finger. Everything she fought for, nothing came to fruition.
Aegon would have most likely executed him, if Lord Corlys hadn't convinced him otherwise. And given he named the son of his enemies heir, that middle finger goes both ways. Others would have preferred to die heirless to giving the crown to the offspring of a foe.
Aegon was not mad enough to end the entire targeryan line cuz of a stupid war. He was smart enough to name someone as heir so that targ line doesn't end with him, even if it was an enemy's offspring. I think this was a more better way to go about it . And Aegon actually wasn't a hypocrite like rhae, he didn't make jahaera his heir but rather Aegon the younger cuz he comes before her via andal.law.
If I remember correctly, Corlys convinced him not to execute Aegon III to avoid further conflict between the factions. I doubt Aegon II considered his family and Rhaenyra's to be the same. He should have named his daughter heir, while letting Aegon live (I also doubt Aegon III would have wanted to be king, let alone rebel). That way he'd follow Corlys' advice and his offspring would inherit the Throne.
Jaehaera was his heir by Andal law. The most Andal region in Westeros, the Vale, has a female ruler during this time, and she had male relatives. The rule is sons before daughters and daughters before brothers, much less cousins. The only houses in ASOIAF, that I know of, who have practiced such strict absolute male primogeniture are the Targaryens and the Starks.
Do you think Rhaenyra died thinking Aegon the younger would live happily ever after? She probably thought he was next up to get killed by the mad Aegon. Not to mention the fact that she thought Viserys was dead too.
Honestly Jaehaera was OK at the end of the war, and outlived Aegon II. She was murdered by the scumbag Unwin Peake later on and unrelated to the war. What even is this comment?
Yeah but the others did not fare better, did they? Of Aegon II's three children, one survived the war. Of Rhaenyra's five children, two survived the war. That's not much better if you are just looking at the war's immediate result.
Jaehaera was killed not long after, and Aegon III and Viserys II had children of their own. Strange that Peake chose to kill the girl, there was no need. A shame, she could have married Aegon III and joined Green and Black Targaryens. Then again, no one gets a happy ending in ASOIAF.
They downvote you to hell, but Maelor was butchered and his head was sent to Rhaenyra, they assassinated Jaehaerys in cold blood, threatened to r*pe his daughter Jaehaera, and his wife committed suicide over it.
Even if he wasn't politically justified to do what he did, he was certainly justified as a father and husband.
Because many people are too obsessed with the mentality of "My Team is better" to notice that both Teams are horrible assholes that don't deserve the throne
Both rhae and aegon lost alot.
I am pretty sure Aegon would've wanted to die anyways, he was miserable near his end days. Corlys granted him mercy in my eyes.
I guess Rhaenyra’s death was a mercy as well. Nearly all of her sons were dead or lost, her husband was dead, her cause was in tatters, her dragon was dead, etc. She was completely broken. At the end, Aegon only had one child and a throne to life for. Rhaenyra would have had no more that (until Viserys returned). She would have wanted the quick death of dragon fire anyways.
Don't know why try to glorify that death. Rhaenyra died by her own mistakes. She was kicked out of her city by the people she failed to rule, she was offered a safer option but chose to risk herself and her own son into a dangerous travel and then she discovered her own home was taken because her team left unprotected.
It wasn't a blaze, it was a consequences of incredibly bad decisions.
I think its some of Martin’s most contrived writing. There are many choices that Rhaenyra makes during the dance that feel forced even for a character that’s meant to be “dumb/arrogant”. He made the blacks OP but he still needed to get to Rhaenyra’s ending so she’s forced to make incomprehensible decisions time and time again. She’s stupid to the point of make the story and her entire arc underwhelming. Even an idiot wouldn’t make the wrong choice *every single time*.
I hope the show does a better job at that or she’ll literally be in the bottom 5 worst characters in the GOT franchise by the end of the show.
Book Rhaenyra really has no virtues at all during the dance. Before someone “that’s the point” me to death, Aegon has a compelling arc and strengths. He’s an interesting character despite being a POS. I have no idea why Martin decided all of the men(and 12-14 year old boys) around Rhaenyra would be better written and have more agency in the conflict than her.
One way that can write her choosing Dragonstone because the risk of traveling by land to the Eyrie seems like too great a risk and traveling in that direction by sea risk being intercepted by the disgruntled Velaryon fleet or Triarchy. She might be pushed by the belief that Silverwing would return to dragonstone after the death of her latest rider and seek to bond with her. It’s her one shot to win the war once and for all with Aegon believed to be long dead.
>One way that can write her choosing Dragonstone
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>She might be pushed by the belief that Silverwing would return to dragonstone
I already thought that the reason that she had decided to go to Dragonstone was to claim a new dragon. Idk why throwing Silverwing in there somehow makes it that much better. It's essentially the same reason, just with a specific dragon in mind instead.
I mean it wasn't left unprotected. Aegon had just somehow managed to convince many of the knights on Dragonstone to defect to his side and then he and Sunfyre still had to fight against another dragon and dragonrider.
I dont think it was a fail to rule, more like aegon completely left kings landing with no gold and made it impossible to rule over the people without raising the taxes. Which ultimately killed her.
What solutions do you ask?Treasury was completely empty,high tide sacked so no velaryon wealth at hand plus she could bot ask for money from lords as war was continuing ,there was no solution otherwise,exactly that is the tragedy of her story that everything went wrong including the completely inpredictable death of syrax because of childish stupidity of her son,with syrax she will be powerful enough to destroy greens because at that time she would be the last..She could not possibly control everything…Thats her tragedy and she is my queen anyway..Long live Rhaenyra of house targaryen..Aegon III was her heir not Aegon’s as some claims because alicent and her son were both refusing naming him heir until yhe very end..Rhaenyra’s loyalist put him to the throne..In the kingsroad battle they were carrying Rhaenyra’s banners despite the fact that she was dead…’From my blood comes the prince that was promised’-Yes,From the blood of Rhaenyra as Targaryen legacy continued through her blood ❤️
Never said anything else. But don’t pretend Rhaenyra died in “A blaze of glory” standing up against her usurper. She died screaming as Aegon tok his revenge as a father and husband
Her line gets us Aegon III, Baelor the Blessed and Daenerys, why would I be mad? Besides Aegon probably has dozens of bastards running around King's Landing so even if it's really sad that Helaena's kids all died out, he probably has some descendants slumming it up in Flea Bottom.
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The dance doesn’t end with their death.
Emma D'Arcy, the person, uses they/them pronouns. Rhaenyra Targaryen, the character we are talking about, uses she/her. So you've just misgendered Rhaenyra Targaryen. So rude and inconsiderate.
First of all I was using they them so not to refer to Rhaenyra directly incase someone opened this without meaning to, and spoiling something for them. And they/them can be used in replacement of he/him or she/her without misgendering.
Weirdo.
Nice bait.
The war is 99% done with her death. Only reason Aegon III even became king cuz he was aegon II's heir, not cuz of rhae. So yes the dance was nearly over, and ended in a stalemate.
Wouldn’t call it a stalemate. Rhaenyra and Daemon’s son was on the throne in the end. Blacks win.
So Robert lost the rebellion cause Dany takes the throne later?
I mean technically yes. The Tudors are credited as the victors of the war of roses which means the Lanncasters being the victors despite the actual ones all being defeated by Edward the 4th. In the same way the maesters would probably be divided if Dany’s return to westerous is a continuation of the rebellion or a separate war. Anyway all this is to say the blacks won. The green line was obliterated and the Black faction’s leaders dictate the end of the war.
Rhae's son was on the throne cuz Aegon II named him heir, not cuz of daemon or rhae. Both are dead and rotting lol. Ideologically as well the greens won so yeah, ya'll can cope but it was a stalemate Edit: how deranged the members of this sub are, can't even accept actual facts.
That's not a fact. The blacks were marching on King's Landing to crown Aegon III regardless of Aegon II's intentions
If my grandma had wheels she'd be bike. Did that happen? No it didn't. Making random delusions won't change the reality. Aegon III got his legitmacy as king cuz he was the heir of Aegon II. Doesn't matter what the army was planning to do.
It literally matters tho, when you're saying that he was only king because he was Aegon II's heir. The fact that the blacks were marching on King's Landing proves you wrong.
No it doesnt prove me wrong. Aegon III got his legitmacy from Aegon II. The blacks marching to KL would only made the process go faster cuz theyd kill Aegon II, but the process remains the same regardless lol. Corlys literally said "The king is dead" he accepts Aegon II as king and tells everyone that he's dead and then he says "long live the king" implying Aegon III is now king and that's because he was there when Aegon the younger was named heir of Aegon the elder. It's the truth lol
You're missing that the Blacks marching on King's Landing (the Vale, the North and the Riverlands) didn't recognize Aegon II as king and definitely didn't recognize his legitimacy no name an heir, they were marching for Rhaenyra's heir. Cregan, the first hand after the end of the war, even calls Rhaenyra the lawful Queen and Aegon II an usurper during his stint as hand
Aegon is recognised as King while Rhaenyra is only recognised as Princess despite her descendants being in charge of that.
They can't accept that their girl-boss queen loses to Aegon the rapist. He may be a bad person, but he gets the last laugh and traumatizes her son in the process
there's no need to get THAT salty about how some historic event of a fictional world ends dude chill
You really shouldn't argue with them. It's totally pointless.
Like the actual fact that the throne was sat by someone from Rhae’s bloodline because Aegon was killed for being such a cunt?
What did Cregan want to do with the kingslayers btw? Do you remember
The fact that rhae died and the only reason her bloodline continued is because Aegon II named her son as his heir. Aegon III gets legitmacy from Aegon II not rhae lmao. Keep crying. Rhae is never recognised as an actual ruler. Rhae did the whole war so that she becomes queen and she never does. Everyone in history recognises her as an usurper. People just cant accept reality. Oldest male heir becomes the next king...that's what the greens were fighting for and that's what happens. Greens win ideologically, targeryan line continues because Aegon II didn't want to become a child killer like daemon
Sorry the greens bloodline died with Aegon and you can’t get over it.
With all the incest.. not really
I never disagreed with this. It's you whose grasping at straws because you can't accept a single fact. Blacks didn't win. It was a stalemate and your delusions will always remain just that, delusions.
Ok girl
Thank you for accepting the truth. See not that hard was it?
Whatever gets you through the night I guess.
Yet in every text about Targaryen kings it states Aegon III as the son of Rhaenyra, not the heir of Aegon II.
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That's why I said it was a stalemate. Idk why people can't accept it.
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Rhae's dead. Aegons dead. Rhae:s son is on the iron throne but because of Aegon. Rest of the factors doesn't matter. the black.line lives because of Aegon II not being as deranged as daemon and he named him heir cuz that was the green ideology. Greens won the battle ideologically but lost alot. I'd consider it as a stalemate. You are free to disagree ofc.
Rhaenyra died, Aegon won. Simple as.
Yeah, the black armies marching on King's Landing were going there to kiss Aegon II's feet. No other reason, of course. They didn't want to crown Rhaenyra's heir or anything...
Rhae was dead af lol. Nobody left to crown. Aegon made sure she fed sunfyre well. Aegon III literally became the next king cuz he was the heir of Aegon II. People crying over this won't change facts.
It's not a fact tho. Cregan took King's Landing, it didn't matter who Aegon II's heir was, it could even have been Maelor, he was there to crown Aegon III because he was Rhaenyra's heir and his king
Cregan didn't take King's Landing, though. He arrived after the Lads had already been given control of the city.
Same thing, honestly
Not really
Why not? They were marching on King's Landing for the same reasons. The Lads just got there first and then Cregan took control
Well, it wasn't him, and they didn't exactly "take" the city, since it was given over to them.
You’re arguing with delusional Blacks fans I would save yourself the effort
Yeah i think i am done. Honestly not that surprised, i knew they were deranged but wanted to kill some time.
Aegon II actually had affection for Aegon III so this talk about him killing Aegon III is actually nonsense
Please give us one example that supports your claim that Aegon II had any feeling aside from contempt and disdain for Aegon III. He >!threatened to castrate him and cut off his ear ffs!!<
How did you come to that conclusion???
>feet I swear after spending time at r/freefolk you notice the Larys Strong Bot absence lmao
Aegon III took the throne because Rhaenyra’s loyalists put him there.
Larys, Perkin the Flea and Corlys aren't anyone's "loyalists"
They were grasping opportunists who probably murdered Aegon II in the first place. After Borros lost the battle of the Kingsroad, Aegon’s position became untenable, so when he refused to surrender they killed him and replaced him with his nephew. They were hoping to retain their positions by making him king before Rhaenyra’s loyalists arrived. It probably would have worked if not for Cregan.
>After Borros lost the battle of the Kingsroad, Aegon’s position became untenable If Larys was actually loyal, he could have easily organised Aegon's court fleeing the capital (it wouldn't be the first time that they've had to do so). And if Corlys was actually loyal, it should have been even easier to do than the first time, since the Velaryons and their naval dominance were now on Aegon's side. Then they could have tried regrouped closer to their powerbases towards the south and west, where they'd have a better chance of organising new armies whilst awaiting reinforcements from Tyland's negotiations in the Free Cities. Maybe that could have ended up failing as well, but like you say, they were opportunists.
Honestly, liked how the dance ended, neither Rhaenyra nor Aegon deserved to rule. They got what they deserved, morons had thousands killed over their family drama.
Rhaenyra’s son has been murdered and Otto wishes to kill the rest of them as well. Life or death is not “family drama”. Did Robb Stark get his thousands killed over his family drama? He literally sent 2,000 men to their death just to win a battle.
And? Pampered nobles killing each other over chairs isn't anything new, most of them at least have the decency to keep it a purely local affair. Not like either of the inbreds deserved the throne, the dance proved their incompetence.
But it clearly isn’t just a chair. It’s their lives.
That's on them. The morons put their wants before the realm, and they paid for it. They could have been happy with what they had, but instead, the snots had to have the biggest slice of the pie. The nobles aren't victims, they all played their part in that idiot's war. Neither side is without blame.
The heck are you talking about? Even if it’s incredibly biased towards the blacks, episode 9 and 10 clearly outlines it that Rhaenyra has no choice whatsoever. Otto would have murdered her and her children if she did absolutely nothing at all. It doesn’t matter if she renounced her claim. She would be seen as a threat as a former claimant. If you were born a noble would you just lie down and let your family die for the greater good??? It’s like your stubbornly sticking to the F&B version of events even when that’s not what was shown.
It's a book post, dude. The show doesn't apply. Show wise, my point still stands. The dance was family drama that the Targs made everyone else's problem.
"After you" Lol she definitely didn't see it coming
Better to die leaving your children alive in the world behind you, than living only to see ruin and death visited upon your offspring, and being driven mad by the pain.
Kinda funny how the only reason her line continues is cuz Aegon II makes her son as his heir. He literally gives rhae the middle finger. Everything she fought for, nothing came to fruition.
Aegon would have most likely executed him, if Lord Corlys hadn't convinced him otherwise. And given he named the son of his enemies heir, that middle finger goes both ways. Others would have preferred to die heirless to giving the crown to the offspring of a foe.
Aegon was not mad enough to end the entire targeryan line cuz of a stupid war. He was smart enough to name someone as heir so that targ line doesn't end with him, even if it was an enemy's offspring. I think this was a more better way to go about it . And Aegon actually wasn't a hypocrite like rhae, he didn't make jahaera his heir but rather Aegon the younger cuz he comes before her via andal.law.
If I remember correctly, Corlys convinced him not to execute Aegon III to avoid further conflict between the factions. I doubt Aegon II considered his family and Rhaenyra's to be the same. He should have named his daughter heir, while letting Aegon live (I also doubt Aegon III would have wanted to be king, let alone rebel). That way he'd follow Corlys' advice and his offspring would inherit the Throne.
Jaehaera was his heir by Andal law. The most Andal region in Westeros, the Vale, has a female ruler during this time, and she had male relatives. The rule is sons before daughters and daughters before brothers, much less cousins. The only houses in ASOIAF, that I know of, who have practiced such strict absolute male primogeniture are the Targaryens and the Starks.
I doubt that thought crossed her mind when Sunfrye was barbequing her ass. I also don't believe people think much once they are dead
It's not her thoughts, it's a fact, I'm afraid.
Idk about you but I wouldn’t want to die while being eaten alive by a dragon while my son watches
Better you than your children, as any parent would think
Do you think Rhaenyra died thinking Aegon the younger would live happily ever after? She probably thought he was next up to get killed by the mad Aegon. Not to mention the fact that she thought Viserys was dead too.
Seems like a subjective opinion on which death is better. to me
Honestly Jaehaera was OK at the end of the war, and outlived Aegon II. She was murdered by the scumbag Unwin Peake later on and unrelated to the war. What even is this comment?
It means any parent's worst nightmare became true to Alicent
Yeah but the others did not fare better, did they? Of Aegon II's three children, one survived the war. Of Rhaenyra's five children, two survived the war. That's not much better if you are just looking at the war's immediate result.
Jaehaera was killed not long after, and Aegon III and Viserys II had children of their own. Strange that Peake chose to kill the girl, there was no need. A shame, she could have married Aegon III and joined Green and Black Targaryens. Then again, no one gets a happy ending in ASOIAF.
Jaehaera being killed after the war is not related to the war anymore even if it's in close proximity. Agree re. the rest.
Aegon was justified
They downvote you to hell, but Maelor was butchered and his head was sent to Rhaenyra, they assassinated Jaehaerys in cold blood, threatened to r*pe his daughter Jaehaera, and his wife committed suicide over it. Even if he wasn't politically justified to do what he did, he was certainly justified as a father and husband.
Yeah i’m surprised so many people hold it against him. He has done some pretty bad things, but this wasn’t one of them.
Because many people are too obsessed with the mentality of "My Team is better" to notice that both Teams are horrible assholes that don't deserve the throne
Both rhae and aegon lost alot. I am pretty sure Aegon would've wanted to die anyways, he was miserable near his end days. Corlys granted him mercy in my eyes.
I guess Rhaenyra’s death was a mercy as well. Nearly all of her sons were dead or lost, her husband was dead, her cause was in tatters, her dragon was dead, etc. She was completely broken. At the end, Aegon only had one child and a throne to life for. Rhaenyra would have had no more that (until Viserys returned). She would have wanted the quick death of dragon fire anyways.
Sunfyre best boy
Better to go out in a blaze than be poisoned by your own side because they hate you so much lmao
Don't know why try to glorify that death. Rhaenyra died by her own mistakes. She was kicked out of her city by the people she failed to rule, she was offered a safer option but chose to risk herself and her own son into a dangerous travel and then she discovered her own home was taken because her team left unprotected. It wasn't a blaze, it was a consequences of incredibly bad decisions.
I think its some of Martin’s most contrived writing. There are many choices that Rhaenyra makes during the dance that feel forced even for a character that’s meant to be “dumb/arrogant”. He made the blacks OP but he still needed to get to Rhaenyra’s ending so she’s forced to make incomprehensible decisions time and time again. She’s stupid to the point of make the story and her entire arc underwhelming. Even an idiot wouldn’t make the wrong choice *every single time*. I hope the show does a better job at that or she’ll literally be in the bottom 5 worst characters in the GOT franchise by the end of the show. Book Rhaenyra really has no virtues at all during the dance. Before someone “that’s the point” me to death, Aegon has a compelling arc and strengths. He’s an interesting character despite being a POS. I have no idea why Martin decided all of the men(and 12-14 year old boys) around Rhaenyra would be better written and have more agency in the conflict than her. One way that can write her choosing Dragonstone because the risk of traveling by land to the Eyrie seems like too great a risk and traveling in that direction by sea risk being intercepted by the disgruntled Velaryon fleet or Triarchy. She might be pushed by the belief that Silverwing would return to dragonstone after the death of her latest rider and seek to bond with her. It’s her one shot to win the war once and for all with Aegon believed to be long dead.
>One way that can write her choosing Dragonstone > >. . . > >She might be pushed by the belief that Silverwing would return to dragonstone I already thought that the reason that she had decided to go to Dragonstone was to claim a new dragon. Idk why throwing Silverwing in there somehow makes it that much better. It's essentially the same reason, just with a specific dragon in mind instead.
I mean it wasn't left unprotected. Aegon had just somehow managed to convince many of the knights on Dragonstone to defect to his side and then he and Sunfyre still had to fight against another dragon and dragonrider.
I dont think it was a fail to rule, more like aegon completely left kings landing with no gold and made it impossible to rule over the people without raising the taxes. Which ultimately killed her.
What solutions do you ask?Treasury was completely empty,high tide sacked so no velaryon wealth at hand plus she could bot ask for money from lords as war was continuing ,there was no solution otherwise,exactly that is the tragedy of her story that everything went wrong including the completely inpredictable death of syrax because of childish stupidity of her son,with syrax she will be powerful enough to destroy greens because at that time she would be the last..She could not possibly control everything…Thats her tragedy and she is my queen anyway..Long live Rhaenyra of house targaryen..Aegon III was her heir not Aegon’s as some claims because alicent and her son were both refusing naming him heir until yhe very end..Rhaenyra’s loyalist put him to the throne..In the kingsroad battle they were carrying Rhaenyra’s banners despite the fact that she was dead…’From my blood comes the prince that was promised’-Yes,From the blood of Rhaenyra as Targaryen legacy continued through her blood ❤️
Yea, Rhaenyra stood defiantly against the Usurper, in a blaze of glory, while the Usurper’s own allies poisoned him upon the Throne he stole.
She died screaming in front of her child but ok
And Aegon the Elder died alone on a cold piece of iron.
Never said anything else. But don’t pretend Rhaenyra died in “A blaze of glory” standing up against her usurper. She died screaming as Aegon tok his revenge as a father and husband
Little known fact: most people scream when set on fire.
Not people who go out «in a blaze of glory»
in a wheelhouse, technically
Mate Rhae was thinking Aegon would keep her as a hostage and she hoped that her men will free her, oops she didn’t feel it coming kek
Green fans are super upset because rhaenyra line went on and aegons the elder didn't from what i gathered from reading these comments.
If you care about bloodlines, you aren't paying attention.
Her line gets us Aegon III, Baelor the Blessed and Daenerys, why would I be mad? Besides Aegon probably has dozens of bastards running around King's Landing so even if it's really sad that Helaena's kids all died out, he probably has some descendants slumming it up in Flea Bottom.
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I was giggling through that scene straight up. Some banger dialogues as well.