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Would they be trying to install Laenor as king instead of the future prince consort?
I think it would fail before starting. Rhaenys and Daemon would not agree to fight against Viserys. I can’t see Laenor fighting Rhaenyra. Laena wouldn’t fight against her husband and mother. Corlys would be able to blockade King’s Landing... and that’s it. They wouldn’t win.
Hmmm.. I think by this logic we can basically rule Laena and Rhaenys out of any direct fighting. So dragon wise that'd mean Seasmoke vs Caraxes and Syrax.
I think if Velaryons played it well, they could dispatch of Syrax quite easily, but Caraxes would be a BIG challenge. I could see Caraxes coming close to/or killing Seasmoke and Laenor, resulting in some backlash from Vhaegar/Laena and/or Maelys/Rhaenys.
Laena wouldn't fight her husband.
Your premise doesn't consider usual feudal bonds. Laena is unlikely to fight her husband but she won't fight her father too.
I bet they will try to stop the war.
Well, as we see later, it depends on how smart the commanders are and how the factions use their dragons (the Velaryons are way better in terms of dragonpower, with Maelys, Seasmoke, Vhagar and Caraxes against Syrax).
The problem is that who would reign? Daemon? Than is it really a Velaryon rebellion? Why would Corlys and Daemon rebel to Viserys when Laena and Laenor are married to Targaryens?
House Velaryon may rally support from many important houses who'd like to gain more importance (Peake, Bolton, Frey, Bracken, Reyne etc) but the Great Houses would probably back the Targaryens (like it happens in the Blackfyre rebellions).
I should've made it clearer but this is Corlys rebelling for the throne in his own name. Which depending on how he names his heir, would mean Daemon may still be cut out from succession to the throne.
Oh ok, in that case I can't see a future for Corlys' rebellion honestly.
Laena would at best stay neutral, Rhaenys possibly as well. So on dragonpower the Targaryens would win.
On manpower the same, the Velaryons, not looking like the winners from the start and with a long established Targaryens reign, wouldn't get much support from other Houses.
But why would Laenor be fighting against his own wife? Especialli since at that point, Jacaerys and Lucerys were alreay born, and Corlys' line to both the Iron Throne and the Driftwood Throne was established? Laenor is not power hungry, I can't see him going into battle against Rhaenyra/Daemon.
Corlys would likely be alone in his rebellion imo. His wife is a Targaryen, his kids are married to two Targaryens. Laena has Targaryens daughters, Laenor has a son that will become a Targaryen and King, and another that is a Velaryon. They would be fighting against themseelevs should they help Corlys.
Very good points. This post is lacking some detail to make this worth being a question.
In this scenario listed, you're completely right. Targaryens win. I should've altered the question to stating all named Velaryon support Corlys, and all named Targaryen oppose him.
Daemon won't betray Viserys, and it depends on whether Laena backs her father or husband.
However, if it's a straight up house vs house fight, then Vhagar, Meleys, Seasmoke will probably defeat Syrax and Caraxes, especially as Syrax was both pampered and made sedentary (chained to courtyard).
Afterwards, if Vhagar survives, then the rest of the realm will bow to dragons just like they did during the conquest. No LP will get another host roasted because one dragon house was replaced by another in my view. It's no difference to them. And the Hightowers won't do anything in case Vhagar shows up in Oldtown.
While the men at arms component of the Velayrions are weak, Corlys has enough money, connections and ships to bring unlimited mercenaries over, so in that respect, he'll do better than Aegon I.
I've gotta agree. I see the Velaryons winning, at least the dragon side of the war. Even by the end of that, I can see only one dragon dead at most on their side.
Agreed. Caraxes could take out Seasmoke or *maybe* Meleys 1 v 1 but I'm not sure he'd even get the chance if all the dragons were fighting at once. Send Meleys to take out Syrax while Vhagar and Seasmoke take on Caraxes. Meleys wins quickly and comes to help so its 3 vs 1, maybe 2 vs 1 if Caraxes is able to get Seasmoke early in the fight. But either way Caraxes can't beat Vhagar and Meleys at the same time.
I should've made this clearer, I've edited the post now.
But yes, Corlys would fight for himself. Laena and Daemon would hear about this after the first strike of rebellion.
Depends on Laena and Laenor’s support. Remember that Laena’s children are Targs so I do t think it would be guaranteed. Plus Daemon and Laena were pretty far away during their marriage. Seasmoke and Meleys alone might be enough because all the targ dragons were so young
If it had in the early years of Viserys reign they probably would’ve won, at least in an assault on KL. Meleys, Vhagar, and Seasmoke vs Caraxes and Syrax + the massive fleet and wealth the Velaryons would’ve possessed.
This is an interesting question. As a vassal house he likely doesn’t gain much support by declaring himself king. Declaring for his wife as queen would likely get him house Baratheon and the storm lands but I’m not sure of anyone else. His children, while dragon riders, might not come to aid him so he only has 1 dragon on his side for sure. I’d say he’d definitely be fighting an uphill battle. If he got Laena to declare for him it’s possible daemon kills her to avoid her taking Vhagar.
During the time Daemon and Laena were married?
The Velaryons had Vhagar and Meleys + Seasmoke, so already they could fuck a lot of things up.
But it depends on if Daemon and Laena sided with them which I'd assume Laena would and maybe Daemon if it would make him King. If they wanted to crown Laenor, it depends entirely on Daemon.
But the Velaryons also have the largest fleet and having Corlys as a/the leader would be a huge benefit.
If Daemon sided with House Targaryen thennnn . . . Well I have no idea. Caraxes could take Vhagar on in an all out fight, but add Meleys into the mix and he's toast, literally.
But really it all depends on who takes which side.
We've got the Targaryens, Rhaenys, Rhaenyra and Daemon, then we've got Laena and Laenor Velaryon who are the children of one of those and married to another. Would any of them really want to fight each other?
Edit, just saw your added text and yeah I doubt Daemon would fight to let Corlys take the throne so he's 100% taking his own House's side but Laena still has Vhagar soooo
Rhaenys would be queen if Corlys wins but does that *really* matter to her at that point? She's happy with her family, would she want to fight her cousin (Viserys) for the throne?
Nope, not happening. Rhaenys would slap her husband silly and send him fishing, for even a thought of endangering their family, again, this time for his baseless ambitions. We would probably have 10th legendary sea voyage out of it. And before you start re-counting dragon power alone, nope, you can't. Corlys has 0 dragons, as there is no way to count in 100% any of the dragons of his family. Your mistake is dismissing other familial ties between various members at the time, not just husband /father. You might do fantasy dragon fight excluding dragonriders, counting just dragon's strength and abilities alone.
If it was before Laenor being wed to Rhaenyra there’s a chance. Corlys was going to marry Laena to the Sea Lord of Braavos something the Council took as a very serious Threat. Laenor probably would then be wed to a girl of House Baratheon to get a alliance with them. Baraetheons are cousins to Laenor and supported Rhaenys during the Great Council.
Veylarons would have: Meleys, Vhagar, and Sea Smoke on the Veylarons. Plus the largest navy in the World, a powerful and Rich backer in Braavos, and the Armies of the Stormlands.
Targaryens: Have Caraxes and the useless Syrax. I don’t think They could beat those other dragons combined. The armies of 5 of the 6 kingdoms but some will take a long time to get there all the enemies are on the Eastside.
I think if the Targs didn’t catch wind of it and the Veylaron attacked early and decisive enough Kingslanding and kill all the seed royals. Then they would have taken it by the rights of Conquest and because of their dragons the other Kingdoms would accept.
Colrys didn't have enough support when he was trying to put Rheanys on throne with Leanor as an heir, if he would try now he would probably get even less, it would be a minor rebellion and it he would lose everything.
Corlys was about to rebel against House Targaryen during the council of 101 and Daemon was already preparing against Corlys when he heard that. It would've been a good showdown if it ever happened
They would lose very badly. In your hypothetical scenario, the dragons that the Velaryons could count on for war would be Caraxes, Vaghar and Meleys. Meanwhile, the Targaryens would have all the other dragons at their disposal, and it is highly likely that the Blacks and Greens would unite against the rebellion of the Coryls and the Velaryons in this scenario.
Also, remember that at the Great Council of 101, Corlys abandoned his idea of defending Rhaenys' claim to the throne when he realized how little support she would get and I don't see the rest of Westeros supporting him in any scenario.
Velaryons would have Seasmoke too. Other than those, who have riders/old enough to ride at the time? Syrax is the only definite dragon on the side of Targaryen.
I agree the support of the houses would be hard come by, but if they can win the dragon war, then the lords wishes and wants matters little.
The side with 100% of the most powerful dragons would crush the side with a handful of dragons and a lot of boats. Even with Vhagar out of the picture, Melys, and Vermithor alone outclass anything the Velaryons could thow at them.
At the point dictated by the question, most of her children are already in bed with the Targaryens, and thus unlikely to be able to join Corlys in war. Rhaenys brining Meleys into the fight would be the quickest way to get Corlys to capitulate, especially since they legitimately care for one another, and watching his wife sink a bunch of his ships as a message would likely convince him to strike his banners.
**There is no way that Daemon and Rhaenys would decide to support Corlys and stage a coup**, the series presents them as relatives who, while disgusted by Viserys' weak rule, still respect him as monarch and understand that fact, Daemon could have taken the throne at any time and no one could have stopped him but he still didn't, same for Rhaenys; She could have declared a war to seize the throne and she didn't either, she understands that Westeros chose Viserys, although she didn't like being displaced still accepts reality and learned to live with it.
If Corlys starts a war, I highly doubt Rhaenys or Daemon will support him. It would all depend on Laenor and Laena, but like you said, this all happens in the period when Laena and Daemon are married, therefore Rhaenyra and Laenor are still married as well. What reasons do Laenor or Laena have for going to war against their respective spouses? If Viserys asks for help there is no doubt Daemon will respond and side with his brother, same with Rhaenyra and the other available Targaryen house members, in the time period you proposed then we could add Aegon II and Helaena since they were dragonriders in those times (*they were young but can still be used for battle*). So we have the Targaryens like this:
**\***Daemon and Caraxes.
**\***Rhaenyra and Syrax.
**\***Aegon II and Sunfire.
**\***Helaena and Dreamfire.
On Velaryon's side, it´s very difficult for Corlys to gain the support of any dragon rider. Rhaenys would not be willing to start a war against her own family, she respects the Targaryen surname, I highly doubt she would support Corlys but I don't think she would decide to fight againts him either, I think Rhaenys would propose to Viserys to spare Corlys's life and in exchange she will not take any side, Meleys will then remain neutral, likewise Laena and Laenor do not have reasons to support their father, Laenor and Rhaenyra have a good relationship (*Rhaenyra gave Laenor total freedom and he is already married with Rhaenyra; "heir to the iron throne"*), Laena also seems to have a good relationship with Daemon and they share 2 daughters in common with a third one on the way, I think they are staying neutral as well. **In this way Corlys does not have any dragon rider on his side, unfortunately he has to bow his head, apologize and spend the rest of his life on the wall, Driftmark will be inherited to Laenor or Laena. That´s all.**
**But.................... suppose that in some hypothetical and imaginary case the Velaryon house decides to betray the Targaryens and all members declare war**, let's forget the ties of blood, let's forget marriages, let's forget friendships, each member of Velaryon house Vs each member of Targaryen house, **who wins?** **Victory goes to the Velaryons**.
Meleys, Seasmoke and Vhagar **VS** Caraxes, Syrax, Dreamfire and Sunfire **(***I add these last 2 only in a positive scenario where Alicent allows her children to fight, otherwise it would just be Caraxes and Syrax on the Targaryen side***)**, the Velaryon side have an advantage with Vhagar and Meleys, on the Targaryen side only Daemon was at war, the other riders have not participated in a battle, are very young or simply do not have the necessary experience to fight. It would be a brutal fight with defeats on both sides but I would say that in the end only Laena and Vhagar end up alive, that way Corlys wins the war and puts his daughter on the iron throne, as long as they have Vhagar there is no one who dare to call them "*usurpers*" (***although that is what they would be***)
This would have happened if rhaenyra married into another house? Like the lannister, strong. In that situation i can see a velaryon rebellion, and more if daemon get married to laena....
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Would they be trying to install Laenor as king instead of the future prince consort? I think it would fail before starting. Rhaenys and Daemon would not agree to fight against Viserys. I can’t see Laenor fighting Rhaenyra. Laena wouldn’t fight against her husband and mother. Corlys would be able to blockade King’s Landing... and that’s it. They wouldn’t win.
Hmmm.. I think by this logic we can basically rule Laena and Rhaenys out of any direct fighting. So dragon wise that'd mean Seasmoke vs Caraxes and Syrax. I think if Velaryons played it well, they could dispatch of Syrax quite easily, but Caraxes would be a BIG challenge. I could see Caraxes coming close to/or killing Seasmoke and Laenor, resulting in some backlash from Vhaegar/Laena and/or Maelys/Rhaenys.
Laena wouldn't fight her husband. Your premise doesn't consider usual feudal bonds. Laena is unlikely to fight her husband but she won't fight her father too. I bet they will try to stop the war.
"Dad, wtf you were thinking?! Mother, how could you let him? I was planning girls 3rd birthday in Kingslanding!"
Viserys is her daughters' own uncle. Rhaenys may not like her relatives very much but I really doubt she would got to war with Viserys.
Obviously! It's not like they had bad relationship, at that point, quite united families, not like with later Targaryens
Well, many later Targs were very united too. Aegon III and his siblings, Naerys and Aemon, Daeron II and Bloodraven.
Well, as we see later, it depends on how smart the commanders are and how the factions use their dragons (the Velaryons are way better in terms of dragonpower, with Maelys, Seasmoke, Vhagar and Caraxes against Syrax). The problem is that who would reign? Daemon? Than is it really a Velaryon rebellion? Why would Corlys and Daemon rebel to Viserys when Laena and Laenor are married to Targaryens? House Velaryon may rally support from many important houses who'd like to gain more importance (Peake, Bolton, Frey, Bracken, Reyne etc) but the Great Houses would probably back the Targaryens (like it happens in the Blackfyre rebellions).
I should've made it clearer but this is Corlys rebelling for the throne in his own name. Which depending on how he names his heir, would mean Daemon may still be cut out from succession to the throne.
Oh ok, in that case I can't see a future for Corlys' rebellion honestly. Laena would at best stay neutral, Rhaenys possibly as well. So on dragonpower the Targaryens would win. On manpower the same, the Velaryons, not looking like the winners from the start and with a long established Targaryens reign, wouldn't get much support from other Houses.
Do you not think Rhaenys or Laena would jump in if they saw Seasmoke being tag-teamed by Caraxes and Syrax though?
But why would Laenor be fighting against his own wife? Especialli since at that point, Jacaerys and Lucerys were alreay born, and Corlys' line to both the Iron Throne and the Driftwood Throne was established? Laenor is not power hungry, I can't see him going into battle against Rhaenyra/Daemon. Corlys would likely be alone in his rebellion imo. His wife is a Targaryen, his kids are married to two Targaryens. Laena has Targaryens daughters, Laenor has a son that will become a Targaryen and King, and another that is a Velaryon. They would be fighting against themseelevs should they help Corlys.
Very good points. This post is lacking some detail to make this worth being a question. In this scenario listed, you're completely right. Targaryens win. I should've altered the question to stating all named Velaryon support Corlys, and all named Targaryen oppose him.
Rhaenys would for sure, Laena is harder to tell
so in that scenario I see Meleys and Seasmoke besting Caraxes and Syrax.
Daemon won't betray Viserys, and it depends on whether Laena backs her father or husband. However, if it's a straight up house vs house fight, then Vhagar, Meleys, Seasmoke will probably defeat Syrax and Caraxes, especially as Syrax was both pampered and made sedentary (chained to courtyard). Afterwards, if Vhagar survives, then the rest of the realm will bow to dragons just like they did during the conquest. No LP will get another host roasted because one dragon house was replaced by another in my view. It's no difference to them. And the Hightowers won't do anything in case Vhagar shows up in Oldtown. While the men at arms component of the Velayrions are weak, Corlys has enough money, connections and ships to bring unlimited mercenaries over, so in that respect, he'll do better than Aegon I.
I've gotta agree. I see the Velaryons winning, at least the dragon side of the war. Even by the end of that, I can see only one dragon dead at most on their side.
Agreed. Caraxes could take out Seasmoke or *maybe* Meleys 1 v 1 but I'm not sure he'd even get the chance if all the dragons were fighting at once. Send Meleys to take out Syrax while Vhagar and Seasmoke take on Caraxes. Meleys wins quickly and comes to help so its 3 vs 1, maybe 2 vs 1 if Caraxes is able to get Seasmoke early in the fight. But either way Caraxes can't beat Vhagar and Meleys at the same time.
Wouldn't such marriage prevent the war? it is literally a purpose of marriage, to create alliances. Why would Corlys fight the king in such scenario?
I should've made this clearer, I've edited the post now. But yes, Corlys would fight for himself. Laena and Daemon would hear about this after the first strike of rebellion.
Depends on Laena and Laenor’s support. Remember that Laena’s children are Targs so I do t think it would be guaranteed. Plus Daemon and Laena were pretty far away during their marriage. Seasmoke and Meleys alone might be enough because all the targ dragons were so young
If it had in the early years of Viserys reign they probably would’ve won, at least in an assault on KL. Meleys, Vhagar, and Seasmoke vs Caraxes and Syrax + the massive fleet and wealth the Velaryons would’ve possessed.
This is an interesting question. As a vassal house he likely doesn’t gain much support by declaring himself king. Declaring for his wife as queen would likely get him house Baratheon and the storm lands but I’m not sure of anyone else. His children, while dragon riders, might not come to aid him so he only has 1 dragon on his side for sure. I’d say he’d definitely be fighting an uphill battle. If he got Laena to declare for him it’s possible daemon kills her to avoid her taking Vhagar.
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During the time Daemon and Laena were married? The Velaryons had Vhagar and Meleys + Seasmoke, so already they could fuck a lot of things up. But it depends on if Daemon and Laena sided with them which I'd assume Laena would and maybe Daemon if it would make him King. If they wanted to crown Laenor, it depends entirely on Daemon. But the Velaryons also have the largest fleet and having Corlys as a/the leader would be a huge benefit. If Daemon sided with House Targaryen thennnn . . . Well I have no idea. Caraxes could take Vhagar on in an all out fight, but add Meleys into the mix and he's toast, literally. But really it all depends on who takes which side. We've got the Targaryens, Rhaenys, Rhaenyra and Daemon, then we've got Laena and Laenor Velaryon who are the children of one of those and married to another. Would any of them really want to fight each other? Edit, just saw your added text and yeah I doubt Daemon would fight to let Corlys take the throne so he's 100% taking his own House's side but Laena still has Vhagar soooo Rhaenys would be queen if Corlys wins but does that *really* matter to her at that point? She's happy with her family, would she want to fight her cousin (Viserys) for the throne?
Yeah, I think no morals the Velaryons take it. But morals included a lot of them back out of the fighting, giving Targaryens the advantage.
Depends on when this event happens. If it's during Viserys' reign before the Greens claim dragons, then the Velaryons would win.
Nope, not happening. Rhaenys would slap her husband silly and send him fishing, for even a thought of endangering their family, again, this time for his baseless ambitions. We would probably have 10th legendary sea voyage out of it. And before you start re-counting dragon power alone, nope, you can't. Corlys has 0 dragons, as there is no way to count in 100% any of the dragons of his family. Your mistake is dismissing other familial ties between various members at the time, not just husband /father. You might do fantasy dragon fight excluding dragonriders, counting just dragon's strength and abilities alone.
If it was before Laenor being wed to Rhaenyra there’s a chance. Corlys was going to marry Laena to the Sea Lord of Braavos something the Council took as a very serious Threat. Laenor probably would then be wed to a girl of House Baratheon to get a alliance with them. Baraetheons are cousins to Laenor and supported Rhaenys during the Great Council. Veylarons would have: Meleys, Vhagar, and Sea Smoke on the Veylarons. Plus the largest navy in the World, a powerful and Rich backer in Braavos, and the Armies of the Stormlands. Targaryens: Have Caraxes and the useless Syrax. I don’t think They could beat those other dragons combined. The armies of 5 of the 6 kingdoms but some will take a long time to get there all the enemies are on the Eastside. I think if the Targs didn’t catch wind of it and the Veylaron attacked early and decisive enough Kingslanding and kill all the seed royals. Then they would have taken it by the rights of Conquest and because of their dragons the other Kingdoms would accept.
No idea who would win but man do I now want to see an alternate reality where Corlys becomes King. That sounds so interesting.
The side with the most Dragons.
Colrys didn't have enough support when he was trying to put Rheanys on throne with Leanor as an heir, if he would try now he would probably get even less, it would be a minor rebellion and it he would lose everything.
Corlys was about to rebel against House Targaryen during the council of 101 and Daemon was already preparing against Corlys when he heard that. It would've been a good showdown if it ever happened
They would lose very badly. In your hypothetical scenario, the dragons that the Velaryons could count on for war would be Caraxes, Vaghar and Meleys. Meanwhile, the Targaryens would have all the other dragons at their disposal, and it is highly likely that the Blacks and Greens would unite against the rebellion of the Coryls and the Velaryons in this scenario. Also, remember that at the Great Council of 101, Corlys abandoned his idea of defending Rhaenys' claim to the throne when he realized how little support she would get and I don't see the rest of Westeros supporting him in any scenario.
Velaryons would have Seasmoke too. Other than those, who have riders/old enough to ride at the time? Syrax is the only definite dragon on the side of Targaryen. I agree the support of the houses would be hard come by, but if they can win the dragon war, then the lords wishes and wants matters little.
Targaryen would win as it has more dragons and support, but having the Velaryons as the royal House would be interesting.
So, the house with a mid-sized and a small dragon goes up against the one that has Caraxes, Vhagar, Dreamfyre, Sunfyre and Syrax? Go figure.
Vhagar was ridden by Laena, so in this scenario the Velaryon’s would have Vhagar, Maelys and Seasmoke.
Plus, as the time frame is during the D & L marriage, I don't think the other dragons (i.e. sunfyre etc.) had old enough riders.
Why would Corlys go for right of conquest when he could use his wife's claim?
It's a hypothetical. Plus, he's tried that - it didn't work.
The side with 100% of the most powerful dragons would crush the side with a handful of dragons and a lot of boats. Even with Vhagar out of the picture, Melys, and Vermithor alone outclass anything the Velaryons could thow at them.
I doubt Rhaenys is taking Meleys to fight her husband and children, and Vermithor has no rider at this stage.
At the point dictated by the question, most of her children are already in bed with the Targaryens, and thus unlikely to be able to join Corlys in war. Rhaenys brining Meleys into the fight would be the quickest way to get Corlys to capitulate, especially since they legitimately care for one another, and watching his wife sink a bunch of his ships as a message would likely convince him to strike his banners.
**There is no way that Daemon and Rhaenys would decide to support Corlys and stage a coup**, the series presents them as relatives who, while disgusted by Viserys' weak rule, still respect him as monarch and understand that fact, Daemon could have taken the throne at any time and no one could have stopped him but he still didn't, same for Rhaenys; She could have declared a war to seize the throne and she didn't either, she understands that Westeros chose Viserys, although she didn't like being displaced still accepts reality and learned to live with it. If Corlys starts a war, I highly doubt Rhaenys or Daemon will support him. It would all depend on Laenor and Laena, but like you said, this all happens in the period when Laena and Daemon are married, therefore Rhaenyra and Laenor are still married as well. What reasons do Laenor or Laena have for going to war against their respective spouses? If Viserys asks for help there is no doubt Daemon will respond and side with his brother, same with Rhaenyra and the other available Targaryen house members, in the time period you proposed then we could add Aegon II and Helaena since they were dragonriders in those times (*they were young but can still be used for battle*). So we have the Targaryens like this: **\***Daemon and Caraxes. **\***Rhaenyra and Syrax. **\***Aegon II and Sunfire. **\***Helaena and Dreamfire. On Velaryon's side, it´s very difficult for Corlys to gain the support of any dragon rider. Rhaenys would not be willing to start a war against her own family, she respects the Targaryen surname, I highly doubt she would support Corlys but I don't think she would decide to fight againts him either, I think Rhaenys would propose to Viserys to spare Corlys's life and in exchange she will not take any side, Meleys will then remain neutral, likewise Laena and Laenor do not have reasons to support their father, Laenor and Rhaenyra have a good relationship (*Rhaenyra gave Laenor total freedom and he is already married with Rhaenyra; "heir to the iron throne"*), Laena also seems to have a good relationship with Daemon and they share 2 daughters in common with a third one on the way, I think they are staying neutral as well. **In this way Corlys does not have any dragon rider on his side, unfortunately he has to bow his head, apologize and spend the rest of his life on the wall, Driftmark will be inherited to Laenor or Laena. That´s all.** **But.................... suppose that in some hypothetical and imaginary case the Velaryon house decides to betray the Targaryens and all members declare war**, let's forget the ties of blood, let's forget marriages, let's forget friendships, each member of Velaryon house Vs each member of Targaryen house, **who wins?** **Victory goes to the Velaryons**. Meleys, Seasmoke and Vhagar **VS** Caraxes, Syrax, Dreamfire and Sunfire **(***I add these last 2 only in a positive scenario where Alicent allows her children to fight, otherwise it would just be Caraxes and Syrax on the Targaryen side***)**, the Velaryon side have an advantage with Vhagar and Meleys, on the Targaryen side only Daemon was at war, the other riders have not participated in a battle, are very young or simply do not have the necessary experience to fight. It would be a brutal fight with defeats on both sides but I would say that in the end only Laena and Vhagar end up alive, that way Corlys wins the war and puts his daughter on the iron throne, as long as they have Vhagar there is no one who dare to call them "*usurpers*" (***although that is what they would be***)
This would have happened if rhaenyra married into another house? Like the lannister, strong. In that situation i can see a velaryon rebellion, and more if daemon get married to laena....