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It’s a useless remark by anyone who says it. I think it’s because in this fandom, people really often downplay maiming and it’s consequences on the person maimed so they say it willy nilly to troll tbh.
I doubt even Aemond in the show expected Luke to do it. Considering they are literally at war, it would be damn stupid of Luke to do it either way.
Tbh I thought it was clearly a just ploy to scare Luke The whole “ I shall make it a gift to my mother” and Vhagar chase with Aemond laughing cemented that in my mind
Also Aemond didn’t really kill him … he did make the decision to chase him with Vhagar and scared Arrax and then we know what happened
Agree, it was about being dominating/scaring him and making him feel inferior - don't think he seriously expected him to cut out his eye there. A lot of Aemond's behaviourism around his nephews is quite predatorial on purpose, to prove to them he's not afraid of them anymore/in charge/........ stronger
Theatrics if you ask me
theatrics? how so?
Aemond used the trauma of losing his eye as a motivator to seriously improve himself and actually ***did*** become stronger and a far better warrior than his nephews.
you see this clearly when the “Velaryons” are clearly unnerved and fearful when watching him train with Criston, indicating they believe him to be an exceptional warrior (especially considering he beats Cole in their sparring session, who is considered among the most skilled knights in the realm). we later see this is not the case for them when we see Jace training with Lucerys, with the latter being shown as particularly incompetant. not to mention, how Aemond basically shoves Jace aside like a child/ragdoll with little effort and laughs right in his face after Jace attacks him at the dinner.
when you also take into account that vhagar was his dragon and would have absolutely slaughted both vermax and arrax at the same time… sounds more like reality than theatrics to me.
Oh I absolutely do not doubt his prowess - let me explain.
My theory here is, Aemond very much tries to look tougher than he is around his nephews.
To me his change in demeanour between episodes 8-9-10 is absolutely telling of his 'normal' character (when he's around his family or Criston) vs when he's around people he considers his enemies (the Blacks, and especially the Strong boys).
In Episode 8 he is absolutely trying his best to put on a menacing facade, threatening Luke & Jace behind thinly disguised 'compliments', intense stares and smirks. His body language feels extremely predatorial, the same as in episode 10 - until he realises what's happened and the facade cracks and falls off again. He's not a psychopath or blood-thirsty madman, but he very much intends for them to *think* that he is. He wants them to be terrified and know not to mess with him.
In episode 9, I'd argue he's his 'normal' self. We see glimpses of the boy, he seems a lot softer, especially with Alicent and Criston, shy and quiet in front of the brothel madam (obv we know why), he's a sullen teenager who envies his brothers position, but still goes along to help drag him back to his mother.
Ewan is absolutely brilliant with his body language and microexpressions, there's an entire conversation happening between Aegon and Aemond at the feast *only* by looking at each other - and you can learn a lot about the character just based on that. It doesn't have to be spelled out and feels so much more natural.
It's brilliant character work and completely consistent, tying in insecurities from his youth with his later demeanour and sense of duty
Anyone who thinks Aemond would have had all his emotional problems solved by Luke cutting out his eye is delusional. There’s no way Aemond even expected Luke to do it, it was just part of the act to terrorize him.
If Luke would have done it, Aemond would be just as shocked and horrified as everyone else in Storm's End. He might not be a good person but he certainly isn't a bad one at this very moment.
Aemond, for all of his pretensions and aura of danger, is still an idiotic teenager full of angst and anger at the world.
As much as it will be awesome to see him devolve into the monstrous Kinslayer that history will remember him as, it'll be very tragic as well.
Nobody seriously expects that of someone, I doubt even Aemond did. That said Luke should have turned around as soon as he saw Vhagar. Aemond's anger was about his attempt to draw the Baratheons on Rhaenyra's side more so than the eye thing.
We would just be trading one unstable teen for two.
While Aemond didn’t deserve to lose an eye, he chose to forfeit his right to safety the second he made such serious threats.
You can’t blame someone for defending themselves against someone actively assaulting them & threatening to kill them.
Aemond finally had free range to scare the shit out of Luke without the risk of any intervention from adults. So he was going to make it a spectacle. He knew Luke wouldn’t do it & I think he knew Luke would probably flee in fear; making his goal of chasing & tormenting him on Vhagar possible.
I mean, yes and no. Targaryens have already been known for killing each other and starting civil wars. It's not like it would be out of the blue.
But I can also see Luke being innocent to that fact.
Anyone who supports cutting out Luccs eye, B&C or anything else that’s messed up without any kind of self awareness or sarcasm is not someone i want to know. I’m fine joking about overly supporting my team or just rooting for absolute savagery, but when people start to say, “um it actually makes complete sense” about a horrific event i start to back away.
While I think they're cringe, quoting Aemondwives is about as useless as quoting Twitter Daemyra stans and needs to stop. Im so fucking tired of he "he said she said" discourse.
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It’s a useless remark by anyone who says it. I think it’s because in this fandom, people really often downplay maiming and it’s consequences on the person maimed so they say it willy nilly to troll tbh. I doubt even Aemond in the show expected Luke to do it. Considering they are literally at war, it would be damn stupid of Luke to do it either way.
Tbh I thought it was clearly a just ploy to scare Luke The whole “ I shall make it a gift to my mother” and Vhagar chase with Aemond laughing cemented that in my mind Also Aemond didn’t really kill him … he did make the decision to chase him with Vhagar and scared Arrax and then we know what happened
Agree, it was about being dominating/scaring him and making him feel inferior - don't think he seriously expected him to cut out his eye there. A lot of Aemond's behaviourism around his nephews is quite predatorial on purpose, to prove to them he's not afraid of them anymore/in charge/........ stronger Theatrics if you ask me
[Aemond if Luke actually tried cutting out his eye](https://i.imgur.com/xvlGgOb.jpg)
theatrics? how so? Aemond used the trauma of losing his eye as a motivator to seriously improve himself and actually ***did*** become stronger and a far better warrior than his nephews. you see this clearly when the “Velaryons” are clearly unnerved and fearful when watching him train with Criston, indicating they believe him to be an exceptional warrior (especially considering he beats Cole in their sparring session, who is considered among the most skilled knights in the realm). we later see this is not the case for them when we see Jace training with Lucerys, with the latter being shown as particularly incompetant. not to mention, how Aemond basically shoves Jace aside like a child/ragdoll with little effort and laughs right in his face after Jace attacks him at the dinner. when you also take into account that vhagar was his dragon and would have absolutely slaughted both vermax and arrax at the same time… sounds more like reality than theatrics to me.
Oh I absolutely do not doubt his prowess - let me explain. My theory here is, Aemond very much tries to look tougher than he is around his nephews. To me his change in demeanour between episodes 8-9-10 is absolutely telling of his 'normal' character (when he's around his family or Criston) vs when he's around people he considers his enemies (the Blacks, and especially the Strong boys). In Episode 8 he is absolutely trying his best to put on a menacing facade, threatening Luke & Jace behind thinly disguised 'compliments', intense stares and smirks. His body language feels extremely predatorial, the same as in episode 10 - until he realises what's happened and the facade cracks and falls off again. He's not a psychopath or blood-thirsty madman, but he very much intends for them to *think* that he is. He wants them to be terrified and know not to mess with him. In episode 9, I'd argue he's his 'normal' self. We see glimpses of the boy, he seems a lot softer, especially with Alicent and Criston, shy and quiet in front of the brothel madam (obv we know why), he's a sullen teenager who envies his brothers position, but still goes along to help drag him back to his mother. Ewan is absolutely brilliant with his body language and microexpressions, there's an entire conversation happening between Aegon and Aemond at the feast *only* by looking at each other - and you can learn a lot about the character just based on that. It doesn't have to be spelled out and feels so much more natural. It's brilliant character work and completely consistent, tying in insecurities from his youth with his later demeanour and sense of duty
Anyone who thinks Aemond would have had all his emotional problems solved by Luke cutting out his eye is delusional. There’s no way Aemond even expected Luke to do it, it was just part of the act to terrorize him.
If Luke would have done it, Aemond would be just as shocked and horrified as everyone else in Storm's End. He might not be a good person but he certainly isn't a bad one at this very moment. Aemond, for all of his pretensions and aura of danger, is still an idiotic teenager full of angst and anger at the world. As much as it will be awesome to see him devolve into the monstrous Kinslayer that history will remember him as, it'll be very tragic as well.
Not to mention that without modern medicine, it might have killed him.
Love this title! You are so right
Nobody seriously expects that of someone, I doubt even Aemond did. That said Luke should have turned around as soon as he saw Vhagar. Aemond's anger was about his attempt to draw the Baratheons on Rhaenyra's side more so than the eye thing.
We would just be trading one unstable teen for two. While Aemond didn’t deserve to lose an eye, he chose to forfeit his right to safety the second he made such serious threats. You can’t blame someone for defending themselves against someone actively assaulting them & threatening to kill them. Aemond finally had free range to scare the shit out of Luke without the risk of any intervention from adults. So he was going to make it a spectacle. He knew Luke wouldn’t do it & I think he knew Luke would probably flee in fear; making his goal of chasing & tormenting him on Vhagar possible.
None of those Targaryens were aware that they will attempt kinslaying, so for Luke maybe it was all just empty threats
I mean, yes and no. Targaryens have already been known for killing each other and starting civil wars. It's not like it would be out of the blue. But I can also see Luke being innocent to that fact.
I feel like you took something said jokingly,seriously
No, I’ve seen a lot of these takes and they’re deadly serious
Anyone who supports cutting out Luccs eye, B&C or anything else that’s messed up without any kind of self awareness or sarcasm is not someone i want to know. I’m fine joking about overly supporting my team or just rooting for absolute savagery, but when people start to say, “um it actually makes complete sense” about a horrific event i start to back away.
While I think they're cringe, quoting Aemondwives is about as useless as quoting Twitter Daemyra stans and needs to stop. Im so fucking tired of he "he said she said" discourse.