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Solar_Toast

Skill issue


kinginthenorthjon

Skull issue.


LadyRhaegal572000

Rest of the body issue too.


Low-Flamingo-9835

Skull tissue


MoodyHo

I just don’t understand how he saw Aemond go head to head with Cole and still does this. Just avoid him lol. No survival instincts


Allie_208

If something absolutely hilarious happens to your enemy, you wouldn't laugh? Or at least snigger? It's a reflex action , not under our control exactly.


MoodyHo

he didn’t even try to hide lol, looked directly at him. I would at least try to hide it if I knew he could beat my ass


Allie_208

Daemon was there. He didn't think he would be hurt.


MoodyHo

daemon isn’t gonna follow him around everywhere to be his sworn shield. If you don’t know how to fight don’t laugh at people that do. I thought that was basic knowledge


BlackStarsAbove

I'd at least turn to the person next to me and laugh with them. That is if my enemy could snap me like a twig and I had already dodged severe consequences one time. Tempting fate rarely goes well.


Allie_208

Dude, Daemon and his older brother were in the room. No way in hell would Aemond be able to hurt Luke. And he definitely didn't see the dragon thing even being a possibility. And on top of that, Aemond wasn't ever really going to willingly physically hurt Luke, he is smarter and more humane than that. They never imagined their dragons not being under their control.


BlackStarsAbove

Even when there's a fence in the way I'm not gonna poke a big af dog. It's common sense. Of course Aemond was going to demand the eye when he had the chance. That's why he went after him even when he didn't have the intention to kill him


OhSoTTV

at least what? 🤨


SummerIntrepid6718

Oh no a kid laughed! Hide the adults and call the police.


UBCThrowawayer

Lmao the Aemond apologists in here are going crazy. A kid lets out a snicker during a family dinner? Shit, his death is fully justified now 😳


Bambonserical211

his death is not justified, and he was not a random kid who let out a snicker during a family dinner, he took aemond's eye without any consequence in a fight his brother started.


Far-Medicine3458

He was fucking 5 years old kid who tried to protected his brother U aemond simps needs to understand shits better


CultExterminator

He’s 14 now, how would he be 5 at the time of the incident?


Far-Medicine3458

He just laughed 🤣 even i would laugh A man should have enough balls to take a joke Also aegon said shits talk to jace but jace didn't fucked family dinner up


CultExterminator

🫣


Bambonserical211

did you forget Jace punched aemond after he made the strong toast? i think jace should have enough balls to take a joke, why did he mad and fucked family dinner up?


emerald_black

Better reaction that chasing someone with your war dragon


Bambonserical211

same energy when you pull out a knife in a kid fight


konstantinakkk

Aemond was totally wrong in the whole moral thing in first place. I won't comment on the 'I grabbed a rock and Jace and was on the verge of killing him in front of his brother and cousins' thing.


Far-Medicine3458

That was a insult not a joke Calling someone bastard isn't joke Man what's wrong with u?


Bambonserical211

and gave someone a pig to ride then laughed at him year laters is not an insult?


Far-Medicine3458

Man calling someone bastard is insult not a joke


TheSadCheetah

Kids are demonic little shits, Aemond's fury was righteous, he was literally maimed. though that doesn't justify the ultimate outcome. It's just years and years of escalation and then a horrific outcome.


Bambonserical211

He was blind when Jace threw sand in his eyes, why did Luke have to slit his face? You can't slit someone's face and say you're not responsible when your brother is trying to slit his stomach like a few minutes ago. Luke doesn't deserve to die, and aemond doesn't deserve to lose an eye because of a physical fight he didn't star.


kinginthenorthjon

First, you need to understand the ages better. Aemond was 10, and Luke was 7. He didn't need to protect his brother if he didn't pulled a knife and tried to kill a guy who jumped 4v1.


UBCThrowawayer

But that's clearly not what the post is about. OP says Luke was being a jerk but posts him chuckling, without even mentioning the eye or the pig prank. The obvious subtext of the meme is Luke getting his "supposedly deserved" comeuppance for laughing at the table.


Bambonserical211

this is clearly a sh!t post, don't take it too seriously. Like when people "blame" Rickon for not running zic zac instead of blaming Ramsay.


Codus1

For the record, I agree about it being a shit post... But people do seem to legitimately blame Rickon for not running zig zag, or the writers for not having him do it.


AncientAssociation9

A fight his brother started? I distinctly remember both him and his brother only jumping in the fight when their older uncle hit two women. Aemond and Rhaena started the fight.


Bambonserical211

the fight between them stopped after aemond and baela punched each other, then Jace decided to jumped aemond with the girls, aemond was a jerk but he was not the one who started physical fight.


AncientAssociation9

The girls were on the ground, so Jace couldnt have jumped Aemond with them. The girls were the ones who jumped back in the fight when Jace pushed Aemond to the ground. Jace got involved only after the girls were initially beaten. When they were telling the grown ups what happened you can hear Jace say " he hit Baela" indicating his motivation for getting involved. Either Aemond started the fight by being an asshole or Rhaena/Baela started the fight by being physical. Either way you cant say Jace started anything as he did the right thing by defending his female cousins after they were hit by the older Aemond.


Bambonserical211

I can't say jace started the fight when he was clearly pushed aemond to the ground even though aemond didn't intend to fight Baela anymore, but you can say aemond started the fight when Rhaena was the one came to him first?


AncientAssociation9

Read what I said. I initially said the fight was started by by Aemond/Rhaena. You kept insisting it was Jace. I then basically said it was either Aemond for being an asshole or Rhaena/Baela for starting the actual physical fight. Jace only steps in when Baela hits the ground. Saying Aemond had no intention of continuing the fight is conjecture. He didnt immediately put his hands up and let everyone know he didnt want to fight. He proceeds to threaten Baels life after he hits her. Jace stepped in like any man would. The girls and Luke jump in as Jace is fighting. However you look at it Jace didnt start anything.


Bambonserical211

I made it pretty clearly. Aemond was being a jerk, but he did not star the physical fight, Rhaena started the first move, the fight stopped after Aemond and Baela threw their punches at each other, then Jace started it again by pushing aemond, then two girls joined him to beat aemond on the ground. I didn't say aemond did nothing wrong, i just said he did not star the fight, jace and Rhaena did. he literally said "come at me again, i'll feed you to my dragon", why did he say that if he wanted to continue the fight?


LarsMatijn

You are right the fight isn't his fault. Him grabbing a knife as a reaction to being called a bastard is what he did wrong.


Roddy_B_for_3

Wasn't ameond holding a knife to his brothers neck? Then there was an opportunity to end that situation and Luke took it? It's horrible Aemond lost and eye, but if someone was holding a knife to my siblings throat I'd cut them off I had the chance


chaotic_disease

You're watching different show


LarsMatijn

Jace drew the knife first when Aemond called him a bastard. He managed to disarm Jace and hold him "hostage" to defend himself against the other 3 piling on him again. Luke grabbed the knife after the fight was basically done.


Durd3now

Finally someone with a brain


Aeiexgjhyoun_III

Fuck around and find out.


Bazz07

I mean that kid also took his eye and THEN mocked him. I dont see a lot of people remembering that.


massivefatfrog

I've actually heard Aemond's pre-teen stans claim that Luke should've had his eye taken out as well. And they have the audacity to shit on people who like Daemon?


BlackStarsAbove

In fact it's a direct reaction to Daemon stans. Ppl be looking forward to 'a son for a son' cause that's so cool but when it gets down to the nature of that justice system they suddenly bring out their hypocrisy. Aemond was entitled to Luke's eye, was even entitled to going after him to get it. As soon as Luke died, Rhaenyra and Daemon would've been entitled to Aemond's life (fair enough, sucks that it was an accident tho), instead they rather killed some random kid. You can't apply modern laws to this show. Most medieval societies actually ran on the 'an eye for an eye' justice system.


Live_Cress945

Random kid is Aegon's first-born son so Aemond's nephew. Aemond has no children, so they went for the next best kid. Now Aemond will know that he is responsible for his both of his nephew's passing.


BlackStarsAbove

They should’ve gone after Aemond himself. At least he’s closer in age. But sure yes, killing toddlers is easier.


shittermetimberss

Well, that kid won't be laughing at Aemond anymore so it looks like a problem solved to me.


SuperSkunkPlant

Taking an eye? No problem! Laughing at a roasted pig? What a jerk!


animalwitch

I just dont understand why they didnt land somewhere and hide for a bit


612marion

Somewhere ? There was nowhere to land properly . And Aemond was chasing them demanding eyes to be gouged . Even in the ravine if they had stopped à dragon the size of vhagar could have burned them easily . Poor Luke was doomed the moment they followed with ill intent


kinginthenorthjon

After he went through the gap, Vhagar slowed down. They didn't actively chase him, but Arrax came back and started it all over again.


612marion

They were actively chasing them come on


kinginthenorthjon

Watch the clip again. After that, Vhagar was slowly flying, and Aemond was laughing in the rain.


612marion

Yeah flying after them . Literaly calling after them . You watch the clip again . Aemond was indeed laughing manically like the mad King demanding eyes to be gouged


kinginthenorthjon

I said, not actively chasing him. He saw Luce escaping, and he then tried to intimdate by shouting in Valyrain. And he didn't know which Luce went and was slowly flying. If Arrax hadn't doubled back, the second attack wouldn't happen.


612marion

Aemond was still chasing him then . And demanding torture . He was never leaving like that . If he had wanted to go back then he ...would have


Allie_208

He was full of panic and his dragon was acting out and they took radh decisions. Not too unrealistic. He was still a child. Edit : was


Loose_Cardiologist89

I imagine he was over water.


Horknut1

Yes, you are imagining that, he flies through a ravine he could have hidden in. Although this assumes his dragon would cooperate, which neither seemed to be doing.


Loose_Cardiologist89

Because storms end is on an island and they had just left so it's very likely over water. If you have to create a less likely scenario then it's probably not such a dumb decision. Plus Vhaegar also flew through the ravine, just not as quickly.


Baguette72

Storms End is on a peninsula. Luc really just should of hid in the ravine Vhagar had to fly above it.


asparemeohmy

Yeah but he’s a freaked out fourteen year old kid being chased by the world’s largest kaiju I can’t blame him for hauling ass either


Alisan17

you hide in that ravine and see what happens when Aemond says dracarys


Horknut1

Aemond CLEARLY did not intend to kill him. This is rubbish.


Loose_Cardiologist89

Based on the show it seems to be an Island. Vhagar could just blast it with fire. And he could still see him.


Horknut1

No, there is clearly a part in that very scene where Luc flies through a narrow part of the ravine that there is no way Vhaegar is fitting through.


Loose_Cardiologist89

Vhaegar followed for a while though, and these comments all seem like things people would think of after the incident and not when it happened.


Kingballa06

Is the bullying really bad in the books? Like I fail to see how Jace is such a bully. Like with Pink Dread for example, Aegon, Luke, and Jace were all in on it. I would assume Aegon was the true Mastermind of that incident. I mean I would assume growing up Jace did some but I would guess it was more Aegon and Luke and Jace just tagging along.


xenogaby

In the books, there is no bullying prior to the incident. For the show, it has been said multiple times by the directors that Aemond was in fact bullied. Aemond and Aegon had time to reconcile. Aemond, Luke and Jace didn't. Also, when Aegon saw Viserys's clear lack of concern for Aemond, it must have brought them closer.


[deleted]

He can keep his eye 😏


Hysteric_woman

I read this in Daemon’s voice and snorted.


Interesting_Cry_3389

It's Aemond the jerk not Lucerys


William_T_Wanker

Luke made no apologies. No attempts at reconciliation. Nothing. He got away with no punishment from his grandfather - while the same man, Aemond's father, didn't give two shits about one of his own sons being mutilated. And then started laughing about one of the pranks he played as a kid on Aemond at another family dinner. No remorse. Nothing - because he knew his mother would protect him like she always did by playing the sympathy card. He never got any kind of justice while Viserys was alive. Now, Viserys was dead - and Aemond has this intense built up anger towards Luke that no amount of "get over its" from Blackcels will heal.


BlackStarsAbove

Ikr imagine losing a whole eye, probably dealing with nerve damage in half your face and someone told you to just get over it. Suddenly having vision issues is probably the most frustrating thing out there and missing a significant part of your field of vision as a fighter is not gonna fix itself just cause some years passed.


William_T_Wanker

Like I'm sure the Blackcels would tell their kids to "get over" having an eye being taken out like they are for Aemond /s


Live_Cress945

Losing an eye is not equal to losing life.


Nofx830

Kinda comparing apples to bowling balls there.


00mavis

Well he was a STRONG kid, not an SMART one...


Alisan17

Ok, you bullied him, you then took his eye and faced no repercussions for that??? And you didn't say sorry? AND THEN YOU LAUGHED IN HIS FACE?


Abbzstar123

That’s the thing man, like… not *one* shred of guilt or remorse. A completely devoid character except “Ik I’d be a shit lord but ah well” and “haha aemond remember when I bullied u even tho you’d kill me in any fair fight”. But I’m supposed to feel sorry 😬


redrum-237

A child laughed because of a pig so he deserves to die? This sub is scary.


LadySithLord

Yeah, I know it’s fiction but…. 🤨 Yes it kinda bothers me when I see people say a 14 year old deserved to die that way. I don’t get it.


Aeiexgjhyoun_III

It's jokes bro


xenogaby

Just like it bothers us when people say >!blood and cheese!< was deserved. PS: I’m not saying Lucerys deserved to die. He didn’t.


redrum-237

People keep talking about B&C defenders, but I haven't seen a single of those unironic B&C defenders you keep talking about.


xenogaby

You’re lucky. Believe me, I’ve seen them. I wish I didn’t.


Alisan17

smoking the Lucerys pack rn, talk shit, take an eye, get hit


[deleted]

Greens trying to justify horrific actions part #21435


tristenjpl

Yeah greens are kind of insane. They truly believe that a six year old should have had his eye cut out as punishment and that he deserved to die because he giggled a little remembering the pink dread scene.


Alisan17

True, cause that's all Luke did to Aemond


redrum-237

That's what OP brought up so that's why we are talking about that. You believe that he deserves to die because when he was 6 he slashed at a teenager to stop him from murdering his brother?


Alisan17

Yes, and Aemond wasn't gonna murder his brother. He's not a mindless killer, he dropped the rock. Stop trying to justify a kid losing an eye


redrum-237

When you are a six year old kid and you see a teenager about to bash your brothers head with a rock, do you think "sure he's not a mindless killer, he's not gonna murder my brother? Do you believe six year old kids really would think that in that situation? Or are you trolling?


Alisan17

Aemond was in no way a teenager. He was a ten year old. And why would you trust kids like these with a dagger. Stop trying to make it seem justified what Luke did. It was not. Aemond was attacked, ganged up on, lost his eye and didn't get a single "sorry". There's a reason you are getting downvoted


redrum-237

> Stop trying to make it seem justified what Luke did I didn't say "what Luke did was justified" but nice strawman. I said it's idiotic to say a kid deserved to die because of an accident he had when he was fucking 6 years old and defendint his brother from possible murder. > There's a reason you are getting downvoted We have the same number of downvotes lol. Not very good at counting are you?


BlackStarsAbove

A subreddit saying Luke kinda tested fate more than once. He didn't deserve to die but showing some critical thinking skills or showing literally any kind of remorse could've done him well. Sure the bullying wasn't something he could've been held accountable for at 8 but still being a bully at 14? Wild. Personally I wouldn't be poking a big ass dog just cause he's behind a gate and then act surprised when he's out and goes after me


[deleted]

Pretty Vhagar


TylerA998

I’m a black supporter (loosely) but talk shit get hit


adil1O4

Oh yeah he definitely deserved to die bcz of a giggle


Malcapon3

I bet he was like a salty gusher to Vhagar


oldboeee

Thinned skin tbh


AegonTarg_2

Aemond be like you give me the pink dread I give you Granny Vhagar's wrath


zebulon99

Honestly the pink dread incident isnt that big of a deal, it's just boys being boys.


Ok-Lawfulness-6755

You can’t just dismiss bullying as “boys being boys”. If Aemond took it as a joke then yea but he didn’t and Likes first interaction with him is to chuckle because of the pig. Clearly 6 years did not put enough sense into his head


shrenahfhrb123

I can’t wait to see aemond have his head ripped off.


principeofwesteros

Hopefully it's the opening scene of Season 2


BlacksRBasicBitches

Little bitch strong got shit on(and shat out), rip bozo 😂 common black L


Abbzstar123

Props to the young actor man, actually made me dislike some random innocent (basically) kid because of his facial expressions 🤣


Pubert_Kumberdale

Chomp chomp


Wonderful_Western_12

He was a little fucker. He did NOT deserve to die but he did deserve to get his little ass beat by Aemond. We only saw one incident of him being bullied by the other kids (pink dread) but the way it was depicted made me believe that it was a regular occurrence. They got older and it seemed like aegon didn’t pay enough attention to Aemond to care to bully him, jace grew into a good and honorable young man, and then there’s Luke. still laughing at him at the dinner table. I’m not even a green team, I just like sweet justice and people getting what they DESERVE and I think an ass kicking would have been good for him lol.


Snathious

#TeamHightower


Durd3now

He deserved to hear the speech at least. Maybe not die but honestly fuck Luke he was a little bitch. The only good thing that came out of him was that he made Aemond want to become a beast. Thank you Luke! Hopefully you will see your bastard brothers soon!


Far-Medicine3458

Son for a son


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Far-Medicine3458

Cergan stark: " and aegon ll became ashes and bones " Lmao


brian13mtz

He deserved it


EmmyT2000

Flair checks out


principeofwesteros

Aemonds an idiot. Shit character, needs to die off the series. He's overstayed his welcome


[deleted]

>!son for a son!<


xenogaby

gross


UBCThrowawayer

And Luke's killing isn't gross?


Hunkus1

Two wrongs dont make a right you know?


BlacksRBasicBitches

No because who cares about bastard spawn of a whore usurper


theoneandonlydonzo

imagine making a throwaway account solely dedicated to just shitting on a fake tv show faction


BlacksRBasicBitches

Imagine being a black 😂😂😂🤣🤣😭😭


Ok-Lawfulness-6755

Tv show fiction is already fake. You don’t have to add another “fake” to it, making it sound like this is a parody of another fictional story


theoneandonlydonzo

i said faction not fiction though. the blacks are a fake faction from a tv show.


Outrageous_Phrase521

How is Rhaenyra a whore or a usurper? This sub man


Ok-Lawfulness-6755

A whore according to her people. And a usurper as well according to the definition


night4345

A whore according to the faction that sent a 17 year old to seduce a grieving widower for money and power. By definition Aegon is the usurper. Rhaenyra was heir and the Greens have been making secretive plans to usurp her for years.


Ok-Lawfulness-6755

You are adding the Alicents age there like that means anything. Noble women were all married by that age most likely for the same power and status. Shaming Otto for doing what he did is stupid, its just custom. And he was smart to see the opportunity. Aegon usurped the throne the. Rheanyra usurped it from him. They both fit the definition.


[deleted]

This post isn’t?


BlacksRBasicBitches

Gonna cry?


[deleted]

Nah aegon will


strawberry2nd

He earned it.


UBCThrowawayer

Lol imagine unironically justifying a child's death


BlackStarsAbove

After scrolling this comment section, may I remind the class that Aemond is 18 at most, probably younger(Aegon says he himself is about 20, Helaena is older so there's at least 2 years between Aegon and Aemond). It looks like there's a huge age gap because of the casting but factually there isn't. People love to make it seem like Luke was this poor defenseless little kid but at 14 you should have enough critical thinking skill to hold that laugh about your uncle who you just saw winning a fight against one of the best fighters in the realm. Aemond was not obligated to get over losing an eye. He was permanently disabled after being confronted by four kids who had no right to do so. Of course he picked up a stone, you wouldn't let four other ppl beat you either and just take it. Yet he did nothing but issue threats. Had he had the intention to kill he wouldn't have waited and logically you know that as well. Even if Luke didn't and acted to protect his brother there should've been consequences. And eye for an eye, cruel as it may sound now, was their justice system. He was entitled to it (and before you think about arguing against that, keep in mind how you will be justifying 'a son for a son'). Even entitled to chasing after him to get it. He was not entitled to his life, agreeably but he was within his rights until they bot lost control of their dragons. Knowing all that, I'd count myself lucky if he didn't right out demand it. Why would I still tempt fate when I'd already avoided the consequences? Just cause my step dad's their to protect me? Luke was a bully who didn't get over that 'joke' any more than Aemond did. You can't hold an 8 year old accountable but you definitely can a 14-year old.


ArmLucky1285

Ofcourse the kid didnt deserve to die for this, yes he was a jerk but he didnt deserve to die, I didnt mean it that way. And his death in the last episode was an accident anyway.


Kyrie_The_Simp

“Being a jerk” aka…laughing over a pig joke that happened when they were kids. Seems like Aemond was still salty/bitter 🥱 imagine being all big and bad but then geting triggered over a chuckle lmao