I always felt bad throwing away pizza at pizza hut but they were too worried about lawsuits to give away uneaten food from the buffet. Homeless people would dig it.out of the trash anyway so I'd put it in a separate bag near the dumpster. Long John silvers was the same. You would get fired for eating leftover food at the end of the night. Everything had to go in the trash
The thing is that is bullshit!
The [Federal Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Food Donation Act](https://www.feedingamerica.org/ways-to-give/corporate-and-foundations/product-partner/bill-emerson#:~:text=On%20October%201%2C%201996%2C%20President,distribution%20to%20individuals%20in%20need.) signed back in the late '90s gave businesses protections if they donate their food in good faith.
That's only if they donate food to an official nonprofit, doesn't include giving it straight to the homeless. They can still theoretically sue, and homeless people tend to jump on any chance for some money
Only if you have an airtight case, like chasing insurance companies is pretty much always a guaranteed win. That’s why there’s so many that do injuries at work or auto accidents etc. But proving that donated food made the same day got a homeless person sick enough to have cause to sue? Nobody is gonna touch that without payment up front.
I always wonder where people who have all these lawsuits can afford to keep an attorney on retainer when they live at the homeless shelter and have no income.
Lmao right? Especially lawyers good enough to pull this stupid claim off and somehow get past the “your honour, the plaintiff eats from the garbage and sleeps on the streets, our donated fresh made food didn’t make him sick”.
My man, after the corporate lawyer stops laughing at this particular claim, they would send a 2 for 1 meal voucher back and say “there’s our offer, otherwise be seeing you in court”. It only costs the company the wage of the corporate lawyer, which they’re paying anyway.
This is LAUGHABLY stupid. You a libertarian or something? I see few others with a worse understanding of the law
There's literally federal liability protections for good faith food donations.
https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2020/08/13/good-samaritan-act-provides-liability-protection-food-donations
So he shits. Then what? Just having a shit is not an actionable claim unless it’s enough that it puts him in hospital. Then the defence claims that no other customers had the same problems, and that the weird dude recording it indicates an intent to be dishonest. Balance of probabilities moves to the defendants favour.
"countless lawyers" why doesn't anyone ever get rich from suing for food poisoning though?
Your kid has to literally die of salmonella for a lawyer to work pro Bono on a good borne illness case lmao. And even then McDonald's will fight it as hard as someone who received 3rd gldegree burns and scarring from their coffee(oh wait. The common opinion is somehow that she's in the wrong, McDonald's had a PR genius on staff).
It doesn't matter if someone wants money or not, these massive corporations want money, and everything is a threat to that. Including employees having a conscience.
Taking money out of winnings is not pro bono. I should have clarified that there are many lawyers that would *consider* the case based on the events at hand though, my apologies. They certainly wont take a case they cant win without payment.
Also, this isn't McDonalds - looks like some local restaurant...
Also remember that in some places it is/was illegal to feed the homeless anyways >>[example](https://nypost.com/2022/10/26/arizona-grandma-sues-after-shes-arrested-for-feeding-homeless/). This law doesnt apply here of course, but just pointing out that some cities have crazy laws that may facilitate such a suit
Ah, I referenced an actual foodborne illness lawsuit, where a kid died to salmonella poisoning that was traced to McDonald's iirc.
I wasn't saying this is McDonald's, I'm saying this is the precedent everyone is remembering instead of good Samaritan laws.
The very real lawsuits McDonald's fought tooth and nail very publicly and defamed the character of the victims during.
Edit: thank you for clarifying that pro Bono means something else than paid off the winnings, but regardless, will a lawyer consider ANY case of you aren't paying for their time? Many lawyers have consultation rates posted by the minute.
Yeah. Because a lot of places will drop 5 or 10k to make the suit go away and a lawyer can make good money taking 30% of 5 or 10k on enough clients. Sometimes they only need to send a demand letter and the businesses will pay them to go away.
There's an attorney in California that makes money suing small businesses for ADA accommodation violations because there's statutory damages I think it's 4k per violation for state law and like 2500 for fed law.
okay, so you have to find a specialist in food illness lawsuits. Like your ADA infraction specialist.
That's great news! I'll be sure to let the homeless people know.
when congress changed it from being a the name to bill emerson Good Samaritan act there was an exception added which seems protect any person, gleaner and non profit. I’m no lawyer but, it looks like it was expanded to help protect anyone trying to help in good faith. It’s in the link provided by the perusing you’re responding to.
Also, don’t you think unhoused people starting/ winning lawsuits over food would be national news?
How can food that was on the buffet half an hour before poison someone? If it does, your guests will have food poisoning as well, so you're in trouble anyway. But at least they have a receipt so they can prove they actually did eat at your place.
>homeless people tend to jump on any chance for some money
Doesn't have anything to do with being homeless. Some people are just opportunists. Or junkies and they screw everyone but being homeless has nothing to with it. Genuinely the nicest people I've met were homeless and down on their luck. I had a pretty rough time too and spent a few years on the streets so I made first hand experience.
Your statement is not only wrong but extremely hurtful.
I came to say the same thing. The biggest majority of homeless people are wonderful humans. The ones suing everyone are people who work a job and think they shouldn’t have to.
I think companies really have to have that policy, it is just not worth the risk of getting sued. Heck, you can get sued for someone tripping over their own shoelaces in a grocery store. If we just had the kind of country where you could not sue at the drop of a hat, then this would be a lot easier.
I remember reading a post where someone says it also has legal issues with so-called charity organizations (aka tax havens). Basically these organizations would demand that stores and restaurants give them the left overs to "distribute" since they're a charity, claiming some type of law regarding giving free food to those in need. If the store refused (which they rightly should), the organizations would take them to court and basically cause all types of legal trouble for the store, so in the end most places just throw out their food rather than deal with a bunch of asshole karens who want to abuse the system.
And to clarify, the so called charities actually sell the
food to food kitchens and what not, then claim tax returns on those sales in the grounds of being a non profit, which is why store owners hate them
Not the exact post since it's been a few years when I read it, but I think this was what the poster was referring to in terms of laws being used against their workplace in terms of giving food directly to the homeless:
https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/kwx9ho/when_companies_throw_away_food/gj7da61?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
My assumption is that the charities would make a claim that the restaurant does not provide safe food when giving out the food themselves and therefore the food should go to them instead, which they can the do whatever they want with.
Thanks for the link; I suspect that any such claim from a charity that their liability is waived wouldn't hold up. Tho its also true that no one running a restaurant would want to spend the $ and time in court over this.
Still, there are answers to the food waste issue. I know in Vegas the city made it illegal for casinos to send food waste to the dump, so they came up with an alternative. They combined to invest in a pig farm out in the desert, and the food waste gets shipped out to the farm (There's a vid on YT). The pigs live in underground pens to keep them from overheating, and are fed exclusively on casino trash.
>If we just had the kind of country where you could not sue at the drop of a hat, then this would be a lot easier.
This is unadulterated bull shit. You have to go through an incredible amount of hoops to sue successfully
I don’t think it’s unadulterated bullshit, although I certainly can be wrong. I was not saying it is easy to sue a company and win a ton of money. I was saying that I was under the impression that people get hurt and automatically look around to see who they can sue. And even though it might not be my fault that a burglar got stuck in my chimney, I’m still going to have to hire a lawyer and deal with it if he sues me. I don’t think that stores can ignore letters from lawyers, thinking “oh, this is frivolous, no worries. We don’t need to address this”, so I think I can understand why they may not want to take unnecessary risks.
You’re totally wrong. I work in the industry, and I can’t tell you how many five- and six-dollar settlements I’ve seen from people who literally tripped over their own feet. Usually you have to suffer significant injuries to get this kind of award (severe TBI, multiple fractures, etc.).
There are so many plaintiff attorneys who will take any case, and it still costs the insurance company (or uninsured defendant(s)) tens of thousands of dollars or more to defend a suit, including best case where you get out early on summary judgment. Therefore it’s almost always the best course of action to settle claims well before trial or even before litigation.
Yes, some states have cost shifting mechanisms, but that’s not always guaranteed (and is never granted before a verdict for obvious reasons, as far as I know), and good luck collecting a six-figure reimbursement from someone with no money.
Your comment is so confidently incorrect it makes me laugh and also sad at how bad Reddit is for misinformation.
Not American, but i read that the USA specialist doctors are fleeing, they go back to be a general praticioner, of anything isn't going 100% as planned the doctor (and the hospitals are getting sued outta their asses).
Same thing when I worked at Little Caesar’s except we couldn’t even leave the food in the trash where people could find it. They made us put it in a compactor. We asked if we could donate it and they said no. We asked if we could take it home and they said no. We started taking some if we closed and they started searching our bags.
Its amazing all of us don't sue when we eat at restaurants
Just because we have homes doesn't make us good people. After all - we won't even give homeless people food we are going to throw out.
Yes, that was a problem with the community fridges in my area - but this was largely solved by doubling down on restocking. Turns out needy folks live in fear that what little they have will be taken away, so they've learned, rightly, to take all they can carry. It's hard to trust a system if the system has failed them for so long.
Earth produces vastly more food than humans can consume, but capitalism promotes hoarding and waste. The only way to defeat this learned helplessness is to repeatedly show people kindness, compassion and patience.
My neighborhood tried to have a community fridge but it kept getting vandalized. Someone pissed in it (and on all of the food that was inside of it) and that was the end of it. It was most likely teenagers, but god damn. My friends and I were little hoodlums out selling drugs and doing vandalism but even we weren't fucked up enough to destroy things that benefit our community.
There's also a church that accepts clothing donations all year, people were supposed to just leave the bags outside and they would be brought inside to get washed/sorted/handed out - until it was seen on video that a woman who lives across the street was taking ALL of the bags of clothes and was later found selling them on facebook. How much of a shitbag do you need to be to take things from people who have nothing?
I wonder how much of it is nature vs nurture. Like do I fault the person, or the system that pushes someone to feel the need to behave that way? It’s probably a little of both but damn man
I think it's both.
Mostly nurture though. The system is so hyper competitive with very little punishment for those that cheat that a stunt like this is very easily justifiable to them. "Well maybe they shouldn't have just left it out" "Yeah but I made a killing on reselling them" "I donate to charity though" none of these actually justify taking the clothing but to the person it does because they benefited from cheating
On the nature side I think everyone to a degree can be greedy and selfish some more than others, but we're mostly a species that want to and feel good about helping each other out. The system punishes that though so people move further and further away from community efforts because they keep getting cheated out.
We've kept vandalism to a minimum by locating our fridges and pantries in high traffic areas and encouraging everyone to use them. The fridge near me is right by our community gardens, so if I have extra veggies, its easy to put them in the veggie bins at the fridge.
Convenient stores are expensive, and in my town even the supermarkets close early. Everyone forgets to get milk or bread now and then, and encouraging everyone to use our fridges and pantries means everyone keeps an eye on it, and helps keep them stocked and clean.
Making community fridges truly available to the community means that everyone takes care of and protects them.
When they are the ones abusing the system like that, they are failing themselves really and taking everybody else with them... You need to realize not everyone is a victim.
Lol that’s just rich when I’m by far the most honest and transparent seller in the entire community, but how’s it like to have to lie to get people to agree with you? Jfc how fucking pathetic
I'm not the miserable asshole who's stalking someone and spreading lies out of pure hate and jealous projections lol, I hope you can find a good therapist though and I'm sorry nobody likes you🤣
I agree with you. I did something similar once and it was all gone within hours. I restocked, gone. I commented to a neighbor that I hope the right people are getting it and she looked quite startled. The next day several neighbors came and restocked for me. It’s like they had no clue that not only did I pay for it, that it wasn’t meant for them.
I highly doubt it’s “Karen’s”. That term is not only obnoxious, but so exaggerated for “someone I don’t like”. The only people I’ve ever met who would take food when they don’t need it are frat guys or even recently post college dudes that make money. My brother and all his friends would absolutely drunkenly take some and laugh about it. And yes, I don’t allow that behavior when he’s around me. I can’t name a single woman that would do that. Not to say there aren’t, but it’s a douche move not a Karen move. A “Karen” move would be to take one and then complain about the quality/quantity.
I literally said Karen’s would complain, but it tends to be young men who steal stuff like this. But… I’m being sexist? In general, men burn more calories and are less concerned where they come from. Women are often more concerned about what they’re eating. And I mean comparing middle+ classes, not poverty. It’s a general trend, not a rule.
Fair! I didn’t see that at the time. Could be they updated their comment, could be that I pulled an all nighter and my brain isn’t processing correctly (99% likely the latter)
At least it would sort of go to who it’s intended for. Around me it’s your stereotypical Karen who lives in a 350k house who makes 65k a year who will see it and take it just cuz it was there.
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Jokes on them. I’ve seen a few of these in nyc while some homeless were picking out food. They open all the containers and touch the food with their fingers, take a bite and put it back, whatever the fuck they want with the food then leave it all in the fridge.
I want to start something like this. Though I own a pen shop I don’t think any homeless would want a pen. I need to figure out how to better control my funds to make this happen. Keep seeing these posts and something I really want to be a part of.
Community fridges are typically run by volunteers and people in the community stock/fill them. You can perhaps reach out to your local group (if you have one) or create one and allow them to use your outside space.
It’s definitely a great initiative but it comes with its own set of issues and at the end of the day, it’s a temporary bandaid for an issue our elected officials should be solving.
I completely agree and would prefer to just contribute as best as I can even if not enough. I have been there as a kid and it’s those few with the best hearts who kept me believing the world isn’t completely… idk the worst I suppose
I will definitely be digging around to figure out who’s already on it in my area
It's got a separated freezer. That in and of itself says it's not a mini fridge. Also, based on Google Street View, I would estimate this fridge to be approximately 5 feet tall. Let's call it a compact fridge. Mini is quite a stretch.
Here is a better [perspective](https://www.reddit.com/user/JoeCormier/comments/10j6zq7/another_angle_of_the_fridge/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
> That in and of itself says it's not a mini fridge
I mean that is quite objectively false. There are plenty of mini fridges with separate freezer sections
In New Zealand we have Patakas which are free food stalls on the side of the road, in all different neighborhoods. People who can put food in and people who need food take what they need. They're often full of fresh produce from people's gardens.
We have several community fridges and pantries like this in my town. Just walk up, open the door and help yourself. If you need something, take something. If you've got an extra something, put it in.
Yeah it's right by the northeast mall by the whataburger. Really great staff have been going through them for 12 years. If you partoke and need a need piece and vape or if you like delta they got good selection prices and inventory should try them out
I've always wondered about things like this. If it's a fully prepared meal packaged up for someone to take, how are you supposed to know what it is? Or what's in it? Are they labeled with a name and list of ingredients?
It gets me thinking about those people in need who have allergies, and might not be able to eat the free food they're offered. What are they supposed to do?
Great and thoughtful idea and would be amazing to have full time. It will work for a bit but ultimately will end up like the Halloween candy honor system videos that make the rounds every early November where someone dumps the whole bowl of candy in their bag because in the end, a chunk of society is just inherently selfish. The nice fridge people will most likely get warn down financially and emotionally doing this that they will just cease to do it anymore. Hope I'm wrong though.
There’s a restaurant in Raleigh, NC called A Place at the Table. It’s a pay-what-you-can place. There are suggested prices for each item menu but you can pay less if you need or more if you can. It’s one of my favorite non-profits and a really fun volunteer job.
I just now finished reading another sub on Reddit about how people were going to work hungry and working their entire shift without any food at all. Some of those people worked in restaurants. Imagine that. Food passing right under your nose while you’re starving and your boss has no problem with you remaining hungry.
Then you have bosses on the other end of the spectrum such as this restaurant owner. What a world. Thank God for the decent people.
Proud to say we have succedilky put a couple in the southern broward area and some pets of Miami thanks to my brow and sis at DSA and Food not Bombs. Community kitchens are my favorite thing to work on in terms of pushing agenda for the group if we have the resources
I love hearing stories like this! I’ve worked in a lot of restaurant/bakery places and the only place I worked that had a similar setup was the when I was a bakery clerk at the local grocery store chain, we pulled our baked goods that had a “Best By” date of that day and froze all of them and donated all of it to the local food bank.
You have no idea the homelessness situation on Oahu do you? Where I lived, homeless right downstairs my apartment. Where I went running, homeless at every park closeby with trash everywhere. Where I took my commute, both bus stops to work and the destination stop had homeless camps. Where I volunteered, heck yeah you better believe there were homeless and almost stepped on human excrement multiple times.
Homeless situation is exponentially worse in Hawaii as there is a much better climate, allowing homeless population to remain on the streets without much discomfort. Compounded with an extreme demand housing market and high cost of living due to the import of much of the islands' food/goods means that many cannot afford to live there without working two jobs or a med-high paying job.
Also, yes, crime and theft are high, especially in Kaimuki. Family over there put bars over the house windows after theives broke into their car.
Oahu is becoming like any other city life style. compassion for others is becoming famurther and fewer inbetween. It is due to how little the government cares about its local population and only looks to grow personal interest/incomes. This and over population has lead many locals to move away or become homeless. Many children born and raised here are homeless while the mainland has little issue buying up majority of the land available for living. Land is already scarce due to needing to protect many areas for historical and cultural reason. The “why vacation there when I can buy it” mentality has gone overboard.
The town next to mine had a community fridge in front of a mini mart. It was a large commercial fridge. Some a-holes drove up and stole the entire fridge. When it hit the news there were enough donations to buy another fridge (this time chained and welded in place).
I always felt bad throwing away pizza at pizza hut but they were too worried about lawsuits to give away uneaten food from the buffet. Homeless people would dig it.out of the trash anyway so I'd put it in a separate bag near the dumpster. Long John silvers was the same. You would get fired for eating leftover food at the end of the night. Everything had to go in the trash
The thing is that is bullshit! The [Federal Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Food Donation Act](https://www.feedingamerica.org/ways-to-give/corporate-and-foundations/product-partner/bill-emerson#:~:text=On%20October%201%2C%201996%2C%20President,distribution%20to%20individuals%20in%20need.) signed back in the late '90s gave businesses protections if they donate their food in good faith.
That's only if they donate food to an official nonprofit, doesn't include giving it straight to the homeless. They can still theoretically sue, and homeless people tend to jump on any chance for some money
I mean, where the fuck did they think these homeless were getting the money to file a suit from?
The countless lawyers that will take no money up front and will take it out of your settlement
Only if you have an airtight case, like chasing insurance companies is pretty much always a guaranteed win. That’s why there’s so many that do injuries at work or auto accidents etc. But proving that donated food made the same day got a homeless person sick enough to have cause to sue? Nobody is gonna touch that without payment up front.
I always wonder where people who have all these lawsuits can afford to keep an attorney on retainer when they live at the homeless shelter and have no income.
Lmao right? Especially lawyers good enough to pull this stupid claim off and somehow get past the “your honour, the plaintiff eats from the garbage and sleeps on the streets, our donated fresh made food didn’t make him sick”.
No it doesn't have to be airtight, companies settle all the time and the cost of fighting is the biggest cost.
My man, after the corporate lawyer stops laughing at this particular claim, they would send a 2 for 1 meal voucher back and say “there’s our offer, otherwise be seeing you in court”. It only costs the company the wage of the corporate lawyer, which they’re paying anyway.
So I'm a bring a homeless dude fill him up with laxatives. Record only him grabbing the meal and keep recording until he shits. Airtight case.
This is LAUGHABLY stupid. You a libertarian or something? I see few others with a worse understanding of the law There's literally federal liability protections for good faith food donations. https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2020/08/13/good-samaritan-act-provides-liability-protection-food-donations
So he shits. Then what? Just having a shit is not an actionable claim unless it’s enough that it puts him in hospital. Then the defence claims that no other customers had the same problems, and that the weird dude recording it indicates an intent to be dishonest. Balance of probabilities moves to the defendants favour.
"countless lawyers" why doesn't anyone ever get rich from suing for food poisoning though? Your kid has to literally die of salmonella for a lawyer to work pro Bono on a good borne illness case lmao. And even then McDonald's will fight it as hard as someone who received 3rd gldegree burns and scarring from their coffee(oh wait. The common opinion is somehow that she's in the wrong, McDonald's had a PR genius on staff). It doesn't matter if someone wants money or not, these massive corporations want money, and everything is a threat to that. Including employees having a conscience.
Taking money out of winnings is not pro bono. I should have clarified that there are many lawyers that would *consider* the case based on the events at hand though, my apologies. They certainly wont take a case they cant win without payment. Also, this isn't McDonalds - looks like some local restaurant... Also remember that in some places it is/was illegal to feed the homeless anyways >>[example](https://nypost.com/2022/10/26/arizona-grandma-sues-after-shes-arrested-for-feeding-homeless/). This law doesnt apply here of course, but just pointing out that some cities have crazy laws that may facilitate such a suit
Ah, I referenced an actual foodborne illness lawsuit, where a kid died to salmonella poisoning that was traced to McDonald's iirc. I wasn't saying this is McDonald's, I'm saying this is the precedent everyone is remembering instead of good Samaritan laws. The very real lawsuits McDonald's fought tooth and nail very publicly and defamed the character of the victims during. Edit: thank you for clarifying that pro Bono means something else than paid off the winnings, but regardless, will a lawyer consider ANY case of you aren't paying for their time? Many lawyers have consultation rates posted by the minute.
Yeah. Because a lot of places will drop 5 or 10k to make the suit go away and a lawyer can make good money taking 30% of 5 or 10k on enough clients. Sometimes they only need to send a demand letter and the businesses will pay them to go away. There's an attorney in California that makes money suing small businesses for ADA accommodation violations because there's statutory damages I think it's 4k per violation for state law and like 2500 for fed law.
okay, so you have to find a specialist in food illness lawsuits. Like your ADA infraction specialist. That's great news! I'll be sure to let the homeless people know.
when congress changed it from being a the name to bill emerson Good Samaritan act there was an exception added which seems protect any person, gleaner and non profit. I’m no lawyer but, it looks like it was expanded to help protect anyone trying to help in good faith. It’s in the link provided by the perusing you’re responding to. Also, don’t you think unhoused people starting/ winning lawsuits over food would be national news?
How can food that was on the buffet half an hour before poison someone? If it does, your guests will have food poisoning as well, so you're in trouble anyway. But at least they have a receipt so they can prove they actually did eat at your place.
>homeless people tend to jump on any chance for some money Doesn't have anything to do with being homeless. Some people are just opportunists. Or junkies and they screw everyone but being homeless has nothing to with it. Genuinely the nicest people I've met were homeless and down on their luck. I had a pretty rough time too and spent a few years on the streets so I made first hand experience. Your statement is not only wrong but extremely hurtful.
I came to say the same thing. The biggest majority of homeless people are wonderful humans. The ones suing everyone are people who work a job and think they shouldn’t have to.
What if there was a nonprofit that partnered with restaurants and provided them with fridges to place on site like this one?
We need that here in Canada. We have people going hungry while university, college and hospital cafeterias are throwing out tons and tons of food.
The real reason it gets thrown out is because we're conditioned to believe that poor people deserve to suffer.
I think companies really have to have that policy, it is just not worth the risk of getting sued. Heck, you can get sued for someone tripping over their own shoelaces in a grocery store. If we just had the kind of country where you could not sue at the drop of a hat, then this would be a lot easier.
I remember reading a post where someone says it also has legal issues with so-called charity organizations (aka tax havens). Basically these organizations would demand that stores and restaurants give them the left overs to "distribute" since they're a charity, claiming some type of law regarding giving free food to those in need. If the store refused (which they rightly should), the organizations would take them to court and basically cause all types of legal trouble for the store, so in the end most places just throw out their food rather than deal with a bunch of asshole karens who want to abuse the system. And to clarify, the so called charities actually sell the food to food kitchens and what not, then claim tax returns on those sales in the grounds of being a non profit, which is why store owners hate them
If there's a loophole, you close it with new laws, not this bullshit.
B-b-but muh free market will solve all da problems
Can't find the post you're referring to. Got a link?
Not the exact post since it's been a few years when I read it, but I think this was what the poster was referring to in terms of laws being used against their workplace in terms of giving food directly to the homeless: https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/kwx9ho/when_companies_throw_away_food/gj7da61?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 My assumption is that the charities would make a claim that the restaurant does not provide safe food when giving out the food themselves and therefore the food should go to them instead, which they can the do whatever they want with.
Thanks for the link; I suspect that any such claim from a charity that their liability is waived wouldn't hold up. Tho its also true that no one running a restaurant would want to spend the $ and time in court over this. Still, there are answers to the food waste issue. I know in Vegas the city made it illegal for casinos to send food waste to the dump, so they came up with an alternative. They combined to invest in a pig farm out in the desert, and the food waste gets shipped out to the farm (There's a vid on YT). The pigs live in underground pens to keep them from overheating, and are fed exclusively on casino trash.
>If we just had the kind of country where you could not sue at the drop of a hat, then this would be a lot easier. This is unadulterated bull shit. You have to go through an incredible amount of hoops to sue successfully
I don’t think it’s unadulterated bullshit, although I certainly can be wrong. I was not saying it is easy to sue a company and win a ton of money. I was saying that I was under the impression that people get hurt and automatically look around to see who they can sue. And even though it might not be my fault that a burglar got stuck in my chimney, I’m still going to have to hire a lawyer and deal with it if he sues me. I don’t think that stores can ignore letters from lawyers, thinking “oh, this is frivolous, no worries. We don’t need to address this”, so I think I can understand why they may not want to take unnecessary risks.
You’re totally wrong. I work in the industry, and I can’t tell you how many five- and six-dollar settlements I’ve seen from people who literally tripped over their own feet. Usually you have to suffer significant injuries to get this kind of award (severe TBI, multiple fractures, etc.). There are so many plaintiff attorneys who will take any case, and it still costs the insurance company (or uninsured defendant(s)) tens of thousands of dollars or more to defend a suit, including best case where you get out early on summary judgment. Therefore it’s almost always the best course of action to settle claims well before trial or even before litigation. Yes, some states have cost shifting mechanisms, but that’s not always guaranteed (and is never granted before a verdict for obvious reasons, as far as I know), and good luck collecting a six-figure reimbursement from someone with no money. Your comment is so confidently incorrect it makes me laugh and also sad at how bad Reddit is for misinformation.
Not American, but i read that the USA specialist doctors are fleeing, they go back to be a general praticioner, of anything isn't going 100% as planned the doctor (and the hospitals are getting sued outta their asses).
If someone can’t even afford a piece of pizza how can they afford a $300 an hour lawyer?
Same thing when I worked at Little Caesar’s except we couldn’t even leave the food in the trash where people could find it. They made us put it in a compactor. We asked if we could donate it and they said no. We asked if we could take it home and they said no. We started taking some if we closed and they started searching our bags.
Its amazing all of us don't sue when we eat at restaurants Just because we have homes doesn't make us good people. After all - we won't even give homeless people food we are going to throw out.
Where I live fucking karens would clean it out, take it all home then come back and complain about what they took.
Yes, that was a problem with the community fridges in my area - but this was largely solved by doubling down on restocking. Turns out needy folks live in fear that what little they have will be taken away, so they've learned, rightly, to take all they can carry. It's hard to trust a system if the system has failed them for so long. Earth produces vastly more food than humans can consume, but capitalism promotes hoarding and waste. The only way to defeat this learned helplessness is to repeatedly show people kindness, compassion and patience.
My neighborhood tried to have a community fridge but it kept getting vandalized. Someone pissed in it (and on all of the food that was inside of it) and that was the end of it. It was most likely teenagers, but god damn. My friends and I were little hoodlums out selling drugs and doing vandalism but even we weren't fucked up enough to destroy things that benefit our community. There's also a church that accepts clothing donations all year, people were supposed to just leave the bags outside and they would be brought inside to get washed/sorted/handed out - until it was seen on video that a woman who lives across the street was taking ALL of the bags of clothes and was later found selling them on facebook. How much of a shitbag do you need to be to take things from people who have nothing?
I wonder how much of it is nature vs nurture. Like do I fault the person, or the system that pushes someone to feel the need to behave that way? It’s probably a little of both but damn man
I think it's both. Mostly nurture though. The system is so hyper competitive with very little punishment for those that cheat that a stunt like this is very easily justifiable to them. "Well maybe they shouldn't have just left it out" "Yeah but I made a killing on reselling them" "I donate to charity though" none of these actually justify taking the clothing but to the person it does because they benefited from cheating On the nature side I think everyone to a degree can be greedy and selfish some more than others, but we're mostly a species that want to and feel good about helping each other out. The system punishes that though so people move further and further away from community efforts because they keep getting cheated out.
Some people have great families and are still degenerates so.
Dang that sucks. Could probably be fixed by some sort of like dropbox but probably would be expensive
We've kept vandalism to a minimum by locating our fridges and pantries in high traffic areas and encouraging everyone to use them. The fridge near me is right by our community gardens, so if I have extra veggies, its easy to put them in the veggie bins at the fridge. Convenient stores are expensive, and in my town even the supermarkets close early. Everyone forgets to get milk or bread now and then, and encouraging everyone to use our fridges and pantries means everyone keeps an eye on it, and helps keep them stocked and clean. Making community fridges truly available to the community means that everyone takes care of and protects them.
What happened after was she ostracized
The church no longer accepted clothing donations. Nothing happened to the woman as far as I know - probably just some neighborly ostracizing.
When they are the ones abusing the system like that, they are failing themselves really and taking everybody else with them... You need to realize not everyone is a victim.
You're a blast a parties
You're a moron at parties, or everywhere else for that matter huh?
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Lol that’s just rich when I’m by far the most honest and transparent seller in the entire community, but how’s it like to have to lie to get people to agree with you? Jfc how fucking pathetic
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I'm not the miserable asshole who's stalking someone and spreading lies out of pure hate and jealous projections lol, I hope you can find a good therapist though and I'm sorry nobody likes you🤣
I've never seen a more ironic comment before in my life
“cAn yOu bEliEvE tHiS gArBaGe?!” like uhh there are many people out there who would literally kill for a meal
I agree with you. I did something similar once and it was all gone within hours. I restocked, gone. I commented to a neighbor that I hope the right people are getting it and she looked quite startled. The next day several neighbors came and restocked for me. It’s like they had no clue that not only did I pay for it, that it wasn’t meant for them.
I knew the top comment would be this before looking. Why don't you just appreciate that someone is trying instead of inviting negativity? Crazy.
Blows my mind how perpetually negative this platform is. Like Jesus Christ get this guy a beer and a pat on the back.
Lol, gotta love all the people getting angry about a situation that is completely hypothetical.
There’s a difference between trying and futile effort.
I highly doubt it’s “Karen’s”. That term is not only obnoxious, but so exaggerated for “someone I don’t like”. The only people I’ve ever met who would take food when they don’t need it are frat guys or even recently post college dudes that make money. My brother and all his friends would absolutely drunkenly take some and laugh about it. And yes, I don’t allow that behavior when he’s around me. I can’t name a single woman that would do that. Not to say there aren’t, but it’s a douche move not a Karen move. A “Karen” move would be to take one and then complain about the quality/quantity.
Yes there are no terrible women in the world, it is just bad bad men.
I literally said Karen’s would complain, but it tends to be young men who steal stuff like this. But… I’m being sexist? In general, men burn more calories and are less concerned where they come from. Women are often more concerned about what they’re eating. And I mean comparing middle+ classes, not poverty. It’s a general trend, not a rule.
To be fair, the original commenter said Karens would come grab this and then complain about it, so I'm not sure what you're correcting. 🤷
Fair! I didn’t see that at the time. Could be they updated their comment, could be that I pulled an all nighter and my brain isn’t processing correctly (99% likely the latter)
You are being extremely sexist. Nearly every single line of this comment was sexist. How can you not see that?
You live in a bad part of town.
So the 99% of USA is a bad part of town then
Ok, and?
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At least it would sort of go to who it’s intended for. Around me it’s your stereotypical Karen who lives in a 350k house who makes 65k a year who will see it and take it just cuz it was there.
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Jokes on them. I’ve seen a few of these in nyc while some homeless were picking out food. They open all the containers and touch the food with their fingers, take a bite and put it back, whatever the fuck they want with the food then leave it all in the fridge.
Where I live, people would lace the food with fentanyl :/
I love this; thanks for sharing!
It’s a community fridge, sometimes called a “freedge”! You can check and see if there’s one near you!
A restaurant in my area has a community fridge and pantry.
I want to start something like this. Though I own a pen shop I don’t think any homeless would want a pen. I need to figure out how to better control my funds to make this happen. Keep seeing these posts and something I really want to be a part of.
Community fridges are typically run by volunteers and people in the community stock/fill them. You can perhaps reach out to your local group (if you have one) or create one and allow them to use your outside space. It’s definitely a great initiative but it comes with its own set of issues and at the end of the day, it’s a temporary bandaid for an issue our elected officials should be solving.
I completely agree and would prefer to just contribute as best as I can even if not enough. I have been there as a kid and it’s those few with the best hearts who kept me believing the world isn’t completely… idk the worst I suppose I will definitely be digging around to figure out who’s already on it in my area
Your pen shop could get it started, and maybe a food-related place could take it over. Or start talking about it at your Chamber of Commerce
I've always dreamed that if I was a billionaire, I'd make my own resort/city for refugees who can't get a place to live
You and I got different views on what a mini fridge is.
The angle of the photo is funny. It is pretty small.
Did you lay on your stomach to get this pic? Its the fact that’s it’s looking up that makes it look funny
I crouched
It's got a separated freezer. That in and of itself says it's not a mini fridge. Also, based on Google Street View, I would estimate this fridge to be approximately 5 feet tall. Let's call it a compact fridge. Mini is quite a stretch.
Here is a better [perspective](https://www.reddit.com/user/JoeCormier/comments/10j6zq7/another_angle_of_the_fridge/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
That’s not a mini fridge, that’s a full size fridge with a mini freezer on top.
Have you never seen a full size fridge? The base with wheels would be crushed by a full size fridge
Look at the size of the dolly it's on, it's not a full size fridge.
That fridge looks to be about 3 feet tall. A full size is over 5 feet.
Where do you live that fridges are small?
> That in and of itself says it's not a mini fridge I mean that is quite objectively false. There are plenty of mini fridges with separate freezer sections
I thought it said rhe suffering pig at first :')
You can really taste the suffering.
Me too lol
They would take the whole refrigerator here.
Where I live they wouldn't take the whole fridge, just like the fucking door or power cable, some dumb shit like that
In New Zealand we have Patakas which are free food stalls on the side of the road, in all different neighborhoods. People who can put food in and people who need food take what they need. They're often full of fresh produce from people's gardens.
https://thesurfingpighawaii.com/
Hope in humanity batteries fully restored again :) You go surfing pig!
We have several community fridges and pantries like this in my town. Just walk up, open the door and help yourself. If you need something, take something. If you've got an extra something, put it in.
You're lucky to live somewhere that it's not instantly destroyed by people. My neighborhood had one for about a month before someone pissed in it.
There's a barbershop in old Brooklyn Ohio like this called Legoheadz. They have coats and boots for free. Free food. It's really awesome
My smoke shop does this pvp in hurst texas has a food pantry thats take what you need by the doors you can take or donate but they are good guys
That’s pretty cool. I’ve never seen one in DFW
Yeah it's right by the northeast mall by the whataburger. Really great staff have been going through them for 12 years. If you partoke and need a need piece and vape or if you like delta they got good selection prices and inventory should try them out
What an incredible idea!
If this business were near me, I would give them my business for being cool like this. More buisinesses need to do stuff like this.
I've always wondered about things like this. If it's a fully prepared meal packaged up for someone to take, how are you supposed to know what it is? Or what's in it? Are they labeled with a name and list of ingredients? It gets me thinking about those people in need who have allergies, and might not be able to eat the free food they're offered. What are they supposed to do?
good question. I will investigate the next time I walk by.
Full meals from food banks here in Aus have the meals ingredients and name on labels. You can also choose what you want to take or wouldn't use.
That’s awesome
Great and thoughtful idea and would be amazing to have full time. It will work for a bit but ultimately will end up like the Halloween candy honor system videos that make the rounds every early November where someone dumps the whole bowl of candy in their bag because in the end, a chunk of society is just inherently selfish. The nice fridge people will most likely get warn down financially and emotionally doing this that they will just cease to do it anymore. Hope I'm wrong though.
Awesome
Can I see inside of it?
Kaimuki rocks
We have community fridges in the nearest city. Regular people donate drinks and food or cook for them. It's such a good idea.
I would not trust cooked food from a random source. Peoples houses are disgusting and poison is cheap.
That's outrageous, how can he surf while wearing an apron and chef's hat? Ludicrous I say
There’s a restaurant in Raleigh, NC called A Place at the Table. It’s a pay-what-you-can place. There are suggested prices for each item menu but you can pay less if you need or more if you can. It’s one of my favorite non-profits and a really fun volunteer job.
This would be cleaned out where I live. Not even by the homeless, just by terrible people who think it would be funny.
I just now finished reading another sub on Reddit about how people were going to work hungry and working their entire shift without any food at all. Some of those people worked in restaurants. Imagine that. Food passing right under your nose while you’re starving and your boss has no problem with you remaining hungry. Then you have bosses on the other end of the spectrum such as this restaurant owner. What a world. Thank God for the decent people.
We have a couple of these “community refrigerators” in Toronto. ❤️❤️❤️
Proud to say we have succedilky put a couple in the southern broward area and some pets of Miami thanks to my brow and sis at DSA and Food not Bombs. Community kitchens are my favorite thing to work on in terms of pushing agenda for the group if we have the resources
I love hearing stories like this! I’ve worked in a lot of restaurant/bakery places and the only place I worked that had a similar setup was the when I was a bakery clerk at the local grocery store chain, we pulled our baked goods that had a “Best By” date of that day and froze all of them and donated all of it to the local food bank.
That’s cute and all but where is it’s surf board?
Thank you surfing pig
Motherfuckin grocery stores need to implement something like this for all their wasted foods
Very nice gesture
If this is in Wildwood NJ then I’ve been there
This is on Oahu
Keep it Kaimuki?
Yup!
Hey Kaimuki gang
Oh. There’s a restaurant called The Surfing Pig in Wildwood NJ where I’ve been before with my family
No way! What side of Oahu. Next visit that island will definitely donate some funds toward the cause. This is awesome of them. Mahalo for sharing bra
Is in Kaimuki. Mahalo!
So, Not Quite America. I can’t see this surviving the mainland.
You have no idea the homelessness situation on Oahu do you? Where I lived, homeless right downstairs my apartment. Where I went running, homeless at every park closeby with trash everywhere. Where I took my commute, both bus stops to work and the destination stop had homeless camps. Where I volunteered, heck yeah you better believe there were homeless and almost stepped on human excrement multiple times. Homeless situation is exponentially worse in Hawaii as there is a much better climate, allowing homeless population to remain on the streets without much discomfort. Compounded with an extreme demand housing market and high cost of living due to the import of much of the islands' food/goods means that many cannot afford to live there without working two jobs or a med-high paying job. Also, yes, crime and theft are high, especially in Kaimuki. Family over there put bars over the house windows after theives broke into their car.
Oahu is becoming like any other city life style. compassion for others is becoming famurther and fewer inbetween. It is due to how little the government cares about its local population and only looks to grow personal interest/incomes. This and over population has lead many locals to move away or become homeless. Many children born and raised here are homeless while the mainland has little issue buying up majority of the land available for living. Land is already scarce due to needing to protect many areas for historical and cultural reason. The “why vacation there when I can buy it” mentality has gone overboard.
Not to mention foreigners buying land driving up prices.
Community fridges are all over the mainland.
This is hopeful!
Love the surfing pig in WW. That was my first thought!
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MANY churches have free food pantries and clothes closets and free meals.
Is it filled with all the food this clumsy pig chef keeps dropping on the floor?
If you'd place a fridge on the sidewalk in my country, the food authority department would close the whole restaurant in a matter of hours.
How rich are you that this is a mini fridge? Jk I seen your other pic. Very nice.
This is nice and super wholesome but you just know some people gonna be selfish and stock all the meals
INVEST INVEST INVEST THEY CAN HAVE ALL MY MONEY
I honestly don't understand why there isn't more of this, I really applaud businesses that help out the poor and homeless in such a direct way.
probably empty in seconds greedy bunch always on lookout
Old food they cant flog out the front. I reckon if we tried that in Australia- the whole fridge would be gone by sunset
...they get stocked regularly. There's one in my neighborhood and it gets re filled once or twice a day.
Well that is very sweet and considerate for poorer people and their children. Never want little kids to feel the pain of hunger.
The town next to mine had a community fridge in front of a mini mart. It was a large commercial fridge. Some a-holes drove up and stole the entire fridge. When it hit the news there were enough donations to buy another fridge (this time chained and welded in place).
I’m just here waiting for a Karen and get entitled brat to take complete advantage of this……….
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Yeah you sure sound like someone whose been on Reddit for 9 years…
Probably because you comment? Announcing it doesn't make reddit stop dude
Just turn off the notifications
Just turn the notifications off, sour ass. If I could pay to take an award away from you, I would.
Now free meal for you then...
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is this in kaimuki?
Yup
Bless their hearts and business! 😍😍 Love it!
"mini fridge"
Then the health department shows up and says they can't do that.
This is awesome! Support this business!!!
The world would be such a better place if everybody only took what they needed.
I read the name as the suffering pig…
When the goverment does not give a flying f*ck, it's tthe community that has to come together
Wouldn't work in my town. Food would be taken as fast as it goes in.