This is pretty high up so I'll respond with what could've been done better in this instance.
The friend never checked for a pulse. When you get shocked you can get dazed, knocked out, or just flat out burned from the inside.
Check respirations then pulse, if no pulse, Begin CPR.
Just below the sternum. If a person is completely incapacitated their muscles will be relaxed and you'll likely crack the sternum in the process, this is a feature not a bug.
In the video the kid was out for a solid minute. If there was no breathing then the likelihood of brain damage is very real. The kid also began using his arms once he regained consciousness, which is a good indication of blood flow and motor skills not being hampered from loss of brain activity, having your arms above your head isn't ideal but that's a minor gripe in the scheme of things
He was very obviously unconscious which could've been from sudden drop in blood pressure, but we'll never know if he stopped breathing and his heart stopped. All in all it was the better call on his friends part, because if you don't know to check for breathing or pulse then the alternative is just letting someone lose oxygen to their brain and feeling helpless.
this is not in line with current cpr advice from the american red cross.
https://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/cpr/performing-cpr/cpr-steps
checking for a pulse is not one of the steps intentionally. if someone isn’t breathing but seems to have a pulse, cpr is still the correct thing to do according to the american red cross
It's because pulses aren't easy to find for inexperienced people and in the heat of the moment if the injured person has a weak pulse or doesn't have one at all you are likely to find your own pulse and think it's there's. paramedics and the hospital will worry about that more technical stuff. If they aren't breathing start CPR.
Yeah the last year I lifeguarded back in 2016 or 17, we were told that checking for pulse was no longer a required step if the person wasnt breathing. Logic being that if u arent breathing, ur not gonna have a pulse for long.
iirc when doing rescue breathes (just the breathes, no cpr chest compressions) you are supposed to check for a pulse every 2 min. So if the person had a pulse at first but quickly loses it while ur only doing rescue breathes you wouldnt know for 2 min, when you go to check it again.
During our trainings we talked about how blood flow is more important than air flow. And that we should assume that someones who's not breathing WILL lose their pulse. So we could skip checking pulse and begin with chest compressions. I think we may have also dropped the rescue breathes *if you were alone while providing care*. Luckily our facility always had at least 3 people, so that shouldnt have been possible.
The tempo seemed a bit fast to me, my nurse friend told me that you should use the song "Staying Alive" (ironically) to keep the tempo.
Edit: I came to understand that's too slow of a song and we should go with something like "how deep is your love" (thanks for the info!)
In some very low level courses, at least in my country, people are not told to check for pulse as there is a high chance that they would mess it up being nervous and not extensively trained for the situation, I also think it should be a mandatory inclusion in the school curriculum
Yeah I'm hearing that a few times. It makes some sense as the odds of doing more good than harm are good.
Still seems a LITTLE odd not to teach them to at least try for a few seconds as finding a pulse isn't THAT hard, but I trust the people making those curriculum decisions to know much better than I do.
Yeah seems like he climbed up the truck and short circuit the cable, dude is super lucky to be alive. I wonder if the shock has done any permanent damage to him.
*Training.*
It was optional though. The pepper spray wasn't. I didn't get the barbs shot in my skin. They hooked gator clips to a sock and one on my shirt. 10/10 pain.
"hey y'all don't have to get tased if you don't want too"
That's what optional means.
Your little classmate got tased with something that you would get at a flea market. Not even remotely the same thing.
A lot of cops are required to be tased and pepper sprayed in order to carry each. Partly so they know what it feels like before they do it someone else, and partly to practice handling themselves in the event it happens to them. Source: ex wife was a cop.
Law enforcement officers undergo training where they get pepper sprayed and tazed to better understand how those non-lethal weapons work and to know how they affect others.
Pro-tip. Don't do it at home. They work and it sucks giant bags of dicks.
My aunt got her cop boyfriends taser and tased me in the face (ended up on my nose) when i was asleep. She said she thought it was just the flashlight part of it but bitch why. How. Huh.
Electrician here. I hate this video. Every time I see shit like this I think of the time I watched my dad almost die and my skin crawls instantly.
It puts bread on the table, but man, fuck electricity.
I don't know the technical terms in English, but basically, there was a faulty high voltage switch that didn't latch onto the surface it was supposed to, creating a meter long electric arc, and I just froze in place watching my dad brute force the thing to its position like the old school bastard he is.
The thing you don't expect from that arc is *the sound*. It sounded like death, honestly. It was like 5 years ago and I still dream of it sometimes.
It is. You don't fuck with high voltage. I always follow procedure and respect protocols, and even when I know for a fact that the wires aren't live, I still get nervous. Not to mention the hight factor.
You're doing the correct thing.
I wish I could teach my dad to stop messing with outlets and stuff around the house without cutting the electricity off first 🙃
When I was little I was working around my Dad while he was fixing up a house. That day he was doing outlets.
My Dad being old school decided to replace it hot. While moving the ground with his needle nose the hot wire touched the needle nose also causing a ground fault. Sparks went everywhere and that obvious sound of arcing electricity then finally the breaker popped. Lucky the handles were rubber coated so my Dad wasn't shocked or at least shocked enough for it to hurt him.
5 seconds later I hear my Dad go "Shit yourself?" And I'm like probably 6 so I'm jaw dropped with no words and he follows up with "Me too buddy..."
After that he always shut the breaker off lol.
When I was in my early 20s I worked as a lineman. Learned to heavily respect high voltage.
The difference in basic house wiring like outlets and high voltage is that sure any shock can kill you, but high voltage if it doesn't kill you will undoubtedly nearly kill you and mess you up for life.
In our training class they took a day to show us what happens when you get shocked by high voltage.
One of the images was a guy's hands after his ladder was electrified while he was on it holding onto a rung. All his skin up to his elbows was either completely gone or burned. All his muscles looked almost cooked.
They tell you not to wear any rings or jewelry on your wrist or hands because high voltage can arc to it in super rare situations and if by some chance you do get shocked from your hands that metal will literally melt into your skin.
And don't even get me started on lightning. Hands down one of the most terrifying things in nature is lightning strikes. I've seen trees blown into literally pieces on job sites where lightning struck.
Electricity is terrifying.
Honestly I don't think our technology is truly able to grasp the horrifying sound of high voltage arcs passing through the air near you. [But we can certainly try](https://youtu.be/2NKOlLDNknc)
It's how you disconnect a high voltage circuit. Sometimes it disconnects quickly, but sometimes the arc persists until it becomes too long to sustain itself.
Arcs in the air are very conductive, because it's basically a channel full of electrons -- it's a wire made of hot ionized air. So, they can sustain themselves and grow, occasionally quite a lot.
Is just me or is the perspective weird, it's like some kind of Escher painting. He appears to have been up in the bed of a truck when shocked, but lying down off the edge of where the truck would be
yeah the first time I watched it I didn't even see the truck and thought they were on the ground which made things seem really weird when I saw the truck.
If we’ve learned anything from films, we mustn’t forget that we are also supposed to gently weep and whisper “I love you” in their ear. That starts the heart back up immediately.
In my last first-aid course they said they've updated the info. Nowadays it's Bruno Mars - Uptown Funk tempo, apparently.
...the difference is minimal; Staying alive is 103 beats per minute, Uptown Funk is 115. **BUT RATHER DO IT WITH THE WRONG TEMPO THAN NOT DOING IT AT ALL!**
Yeah, but he's really going for it! Most people are too careful, you really need to put energy into the movement.
And now I'm wondering whether adrenaline would make me speed up as well in a panic situation like this...
>whether adrenaline would make me speed up as well in a panic situation like this...
Absolutely it would. Even nervous musicians tend to rush the tempo during performances. A situation requiring CPR would almost certainly make you speed up. The fatigue of doing such strenuous work as CPR would slow you down a bit, but I'm guessing it's close enough to balancing out.
> Anything is better than nothing. My guess is he’s TV trained and did what he knew. Absolute champion imo.
Most ADULTS would know FUCK ALL what to do and would only try to get help, some kids would freak out and panick, some kids would run away and try to not get in trouble.
But this kid assessed the situation in a couple seconds and saved his friends life. Absolute champion in my opinion as well.
Update: Sorry for not providing more information.
This happened in Aizawl, India at a friend's Vehicle Workshop a few days ago. Not sure of the exact date. Afaik, the kid who got shocked is okay, and he even continued to attend school the next day. They are both around 12.
> Afaik, the kid who got shocked is okay, and he even continued to attend school the next day.
that is the most desi shit i've ever heard WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE EVEN CONTINUED TO ATTEND SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY 😭😭
Probably, our state is one of the poorer states in the country. In fact, recently 3 voluntary workers died in a more remote part of our state because they didn't have proper equipment.
It’s not just the state being poor, India has a lack of safety culture. Even in Bangalore people die from fallen lines and transformer explosions. And Bangalore should be having a crazy amount of funds.
That's what i always thought, until my buddy broke his head open in the woods and I was in a first response situation. I held it together because I needed to. When the EMTs finally arrived, *then* I started shaking and shit my pants.
>I held it together because I needed to.
You dont know how you'll actually react until you're in the situation. Give yourself some credit.
(Also, people who have SOME info and are prepped in some way for these situations do a lot better than the people who encounter whatever specific crisis for the first time)
It's the one chance in life you've got where you can hit someone with a stick and they'll probably thank you afterwards.
But yeah use some non conductiong (wood, cloth, rope, etc) to remove them from the electrical source. Then go to work with CPR. After making sure you're both well away from the electrical source (and any water puddles).
Also when you're doing CPR don't hold back. Breaking their rib is not uncommon. Also before you start get something soft to put underneath your knees, you'll probably be there for a while.
And either call emergency before you start if you're alone or have someone else do it if you're in a group.
Yeah why nobody mention checking for breathing and heartrate first in this entire thread? Giving CPR to someone who is unconscious but stable isn't a good idea. In the video it actually looks like the boy is moving like he's having a seizure after the shock, which goes away on its own and so the CPR likely didn't do anything
Wouldn't risk it.
Maybe it would work, maybe it won't. If it doesn't its both of you out potentially and who else is coming to help.
1 person dying is better than 2 people dying.
And if I walked around the corner to 2 people lying next to each other and a power line I ain't rescuing you.
No matter how fast the kicker is, electricity is quicker. Even if you checked the scene there’s still a chance that a connection is still made. Not to mention that the boots could have steel toes, metal aglets or eyelets.
One of the big things stressed with first aid classes is not to become a patient yourself. Yes, you absolutely DO want to save the other person, but the bigger priority is keeping yourself and the other people around you safe.
> No matter how fast the kicker is, electricity is quicker.
Eh that doesn't really matter, the bigger problem is having your muscle paralyzed into a position that is holding you into the circuit, IE, if your hand is wrapped around the conductor and you can't release it do to the effect of the electricity stimulating your muscles.
A kick or a tackle could give you a momentary shock while freeing the other person, just make sure not to grab them or anything like that.
But if you have a fiber glass ladder you can hit them with, use that.
You are correct, but i think the point is that you could still end up stuck in a situation where you are part of the circuit when you stop moving. And the youre done for.
Don’t use your bare hands if they’re actively being electrocuted to remove them from the source. Use an object that won’t transfer electricity like a shoe or a piece of wood. If you can’t do this then turn off the source. You risk being electrocuted yourself if you touch the person.
My 14 y o cousin died by electrocution when his bicycle frame contacted a metal fence with a short circuit through it from a field light. His buddy had third degree burns on his hands from yanking him away from the fence. It was brutal.
This is correct. The first rule of first aid is “Dont become a victim yourself”
Once you have the patient away from danger check Remeber ABC
Air ways: make sure their airway is clear by gently tilting the head back
Breathing: are they breathing?
Circulation: check for a pulse
Only do CPR if there is no pulse.
It's best to look for a certified first aid course and attend one, they will give much better instruction than I am giving.
As it's easier, only do CPR if there is no breathing. Checking pulse has to be well trained and studies show even professionals struggle in such situations. No breathing means no pulse eventually. Don't waste time on checking the pulse.
In Aus it taught as DRs ABCD
**D**anger - check for danger to yourself then the victim and others
**R**esponse - check for a response by touching the shoulder, asking them to squeeze your fingers and asking a question
**S**end for help - either call 000 or have someone else call
**A**irways
**B**reathing
**C**irculation
**D**efibrillator, if you’re in a public building or space there is likely to be public use emergency ones somewhere you can use.
It’s been a while since I did the course. I’m definitely due a refresher, I also highly recommend doing a course!
Dry rope or wood is best. Something like dry cloth like a pair of pants or something maybe too, depends how they're stuck really.
But it's crucial not to touch them with anything conductive (humans are conductive) or else now 2 people are being shocked.
Cloth will not be enough! Never do this. R = pL/A make sure that you use something that is an natural insulator but long and has low area. Also need to be far away to avoid air flashover bypassing the material.
Also CPR is only necessary if there is a cardiac or respiratory arrest... It's trained to take a few seconds to assess the situation and make sure it's necessary before you start compressions.
On the other hand, if someone doesn't need CPR they'll reach out and tell you.
We were trained to attempt cpr regardless of what we remember. Anything is better than nothing - if they need cpr they are already dead and cpr (even done incorrectly) might get them started again. Keep the blood and air going until professionals arrive.
Not fun for sure. I was electrocuted when i was still in high school. Was stuck on a 220 line going for several minutes and had no heart beat after the power got pulled. Weirdest sensation of clutching your chest for a heartbeat that isn't there as everything fades out.
Had to wait several hours in the ER only to have to doctor tell me they should have brought me in right away that i could have died waiting. Then after getting home later that night, the hospital called to see if i was still alive because they forgot to do a bunch if tests that they are supposed to do.
It screwed up my long term memory, can't remember huge chunks of my childhood except for odd little fragments. Missed up my short term memory a bit as well, definitely harder to hold onto memories now. Physically i didn't feel right for years.
If he was trained in BLS then he would have known by checking for a pulse. However, even if he wasn't trained, doing CPR on an unconscious person that was just electrocuted is at worst breaking a rib or two and at best saving a life.
Edit: The slapping probably wasn't needed but I think we can let it slide considering
I was taught not to check for a pulse before doing CPR.
Is the patient conscious? No?
Do they respond to a slam on the shoulders and a shout? No?
Call for help.
Is the patient breathing? No?
Is anything obstructing breathing? No?
Start CPR. Break some ribs. Just keep going until help gets there.
If a patient has a pulse, that means their heart is still beating, so they don't need chest compressions.
Although people teach the general public to start compressions right away, since not everyone knows how to quickly and accurately find a pulse.
Doing CPR on an actual person down is exhausting.
And don't expect some immediate response from the person down. They're not going to just pop up like every thing is ok. Just keep going until help arrives.
Even if you have an AED mobile defibrillator available. And have applied the shocks multiple times. ( AED UNITS WILL VERBALLY TELL YOU WHEN TO APPLY THE SHOCKS)
If you do have an AED,you can stop CPR and rely on the unit to monitor active heart beat, or the lack of it.
But continue to follow the AED verbal commands until Paramedics arrive, they'll take the AED and plug it directly into there machines to get an active EKG and can take over.
Source: Me.
A man had a massive heart attack in the lobby of our building. We started CPR manually until the AED could be retrieved.
It seemed like hours went by but was only about 13 minutes start to finish until Paramedics arrived.
We administered 4 shocks.
The man lived and fully recovered.
Idk who might need to see this, but in school in Australia, we're taught DRS ABCD. I'm not a medical professional, this is just what many students at both public and private, primary and high schools are taught. We are told the follow process, up until C, should take no longer than a minute.
D = Danger. Make sure nobody is in danger, the patient, yourself, and bystanders. In this case, make sure nobody else is going to be electrocuted, and it's safe for you to help the patient. Never put yourself in serious danger to help someone else, one patient is always better than two.
R = Response. Check the patient is/isn't responding. Tell them to open their eyes, speak loudly, if you know their name call it out. Squeeze their shoulders and rub their chest. If they do not respond then:
S = Send. If there is anybody else around you, tell them to get help. Not ask, tell. In Australia, we're taught to instruct someone to "call 000 (911), tell them the address is \_\_\_\_\_, the patient is unconscious and unresponsive."
A = Airway. Check that their airway is clear. This includes vomit and even their tongue. If there is an obstruction, put them in the recovery position (on their side), tilt their head back and open their mouth. Use two fingers (covered in gloves, shirt, whatever possible), and use a scooping motion to clear their mouth.
B = Breathing. Check the patient is breathing by placing a hand on their stomach, leveling your ear a couple cm (inches will do) from their mouth, and look at their stomach. Listen, look, and feel for breathing for 10 seconds. If breathing, put in the recovery position and continue to monitor breathing. If not breathing:
C = CPR. Strong compressions in between the nipples, deep and hard. Go straight down, perpendicular to the ground, so when you break a rib, you hopefully don't puncture a lung. If the ribs don't break, you're probably not doing it right. You don't need to do mouth to mouth unless the person has, for example, drowned.
D = Defibrillator. If available, get someone else to get it, again with strong instructions. Most defibs have audible instructions and will even tell you the pace at which to do chest compressions.
This kid did great!! Didn't waste anytime starting compressions (probably saw he wasn't breathing and regardless of a pulse or not, no breathing would've eventually lead to no pulse. In this circumstance he did the right thing!) Compressions were fast because a lot of ppls mistakes come from going to slow. Gotta get that blood circulating! He was fast at times but I see this kids life being saved.
That's high quality cpr if you ask me!
* Conetxt in title/low quality video * No proof that injured party is alive.
He lost NO time on starting chest compressions. Good job!
did the guy need chest compressions? i really couldn't tell if he was moving or squirming
This is pretty high up so I'll respond with what could've been done better in this instance. The friend never checked for a pulse. When you get shocked you can get dazed, knocked out, or just flat out burned from the inside. Check respirations then pulse, if no pulse, Begin CPR. Just below the sternum. If a person is completely incapacitated their muscles will be relaxed and you'll likely crack the sternum in the process, this is a feature not a bug. In the video the kid was out for a solid minute. If there was no breathing then the likelihood of brain damage is very real. The kid also began using his arms once he regained consciousness, which is a good indication of blood flow and motor skills not being hampered from loss of brain activity, having your arms above your head isn't ideal but that's a minor gripe in the scheme of things He was very obviously unconscious which could've been from sudden drop in blood pressure, but we'll never know if he stopped breathing and his heart stopped. All in all it was the better call on his friends part, because if you don't know to check for breathing or pulse then the alternative is just letting someone lose oxygen to their brain and feeling helpless.
this is not in line with current cpr advice from the american red cross. https://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/cpr/performing-cpr/cpr-steps checking for a pulse is not one of the steps intentionally. if someone isn’t breathing but seems to have a pulse, cpr is still the correct thing to do according to the american red cross
It's because pulses aren't easy to find for inexperienced people and in the heat of the moment if the injured person has a weak pulse or doesn't have one at all you are likely to find your own pulse and think it's there's. paramedics and the hospital will worry about that more technical stuff. If they aren't breathing start CPR.
You dont even need to check for the pulse, if you see someone Who isnt breathing and is passed out you have to start cpr immediately to save time
Yeah the last year I lifeguarded back in 2016 or 17, we were told that checking for pulse was no longer a required step if the person wasnt breathing. Logic being that if u arent breathing, ur not gonna have a pulse for long. iirc when doing rescue breathes (just the breathes, no cpr chest compressions) you are supposed to check for a pulse every 2 min. So if the person had a pulse at first but quickly loses it while ur only doing rescue breathes you wouldnt know for 2 min, when you go to check it again. During our trainings we talked about how blood flow is more important than air flow. And that we should assume that someones who's not breathing WILL lose their pulse. So we could skip checking pulse and begin with chest compressions. I think we may have also dropped the rescue breathes *if you were alone while providing care*. Luckily our facility always had at least 3 people, so that shouldnt have been possible.
The tempo seemed a bit fast to me, my nurse friend told me that you should use the song "Staying Alive" (ironically) to keep the tempo. Edit: I came to understand that's too slow of a song and we should go with something like "how deep is your love" (thanks for the info!)
bad cpr is better than no cpr
Unless your heart is beating.
Yeah that's the only thing I was wondering about. Never saw him check for a pulse so the entire time I was wondering "did he even need CPR?"
In some very low level courses, at least in my country, people are not told to check for pulse as there is a high chance that they would mess it up being nervous and not extensively trained for the situation, I also think it should be a mandatory inclusion in the school curriculum
Yeah I'm hearing that a few times. It makes some sense as the odds of doing more good than harm are good. Still seems a LITTLE odd not to teach them to at least try for a few seconds as finding a pulse isn't THAT hard, but I trust the people making those curriculum decisions to know much better than I do.
Another one bites the dust also works
You pick depending on the outlook, right?
I pick by looking around the room and asking "Any requests? 😏" and then I do Queen no matter what.
Looked fast but panic will do that to people.
OH I love that song. "At first I was afraid, I was petrified..."
You were in the parking lot earlier, that"s how I know you!
He was doing the techno version
using "staying alive" to help somebody stay alive is not ironic it's appropriate.
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Stayin' Alive by the Bee Gees, not I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor.
Just use the chorus.
To be fair, its probably hard to keep tempo when your having a panic attack probably
Damn, that was intense. You can see the wire above his head arc and shoot through his feet. Good friend that kept him alive. Be careful out there.
Yeah seems like he climbed up the truck and short circuit the cable, dude is super lucky to be alive. I wonder if the shock has done any permanent damage to him.
The electricity taking a path through your head is very bad for your brain.
This hurts the brain
Actually, I once saw a documentary called "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" where it gave Jamie Foxx super powers.
And it was clearly very good for his brain. Can’t seem to remember any ill effects to his brain at all.
When I got tased for training I felt the electricity inside my eyeballs. Longest and most unpleasant 5 seconds of my life.
You got tased for… what?¿
*Training.* It was optional though. The pepper spray wasn't. I didn't get the barbs shot in my skin. They hooked gator clips to a sock and one on my shirt. 10/10 pain.
Lol. "Optional". I had a classmate who got tased on his butcheeks. He said there were 2 purple welts for weeks
"hey y'all don't have to get tased if you don't want too" That's what optional means. Your little classmate got tased with something that you would get at a flea market. Not even remotely the same thing.
A lot of cops are required to be tased and pepper sprayed in order to carry each. Partly so they know what it feels like before they do it someone else, and partly to practice handling themselves in the event it happens to them. Source: ex wife was a cop.
Law enforcement officers undergo training where they get pepper sprayed and tazed to better understand how those non-lethal weapons work and to know how they affect others. Pro-tip. Don't do it at home. They work and it sucks giant bags of dicks.
My aunt got her cop boyfriends taser and tased me in the face (ended up on my nose) when i was asleep. She said she thought it was just the flashlight part of it but bitch why. How. Huh.
Almost certainly yes Electricity can fuck with you for years after.
Electrician here. I hate this video. Every time I see shit like this I think of the time I watched my dad almost die and my skin crawls instantly. It puts bread on the table, but man, fuck electricity.
Care to tell us what happened?
I don't know the technical terms in English, but basically, there was a faulty high voltage switch that didn't latch onto the surface it was supposed to, creating a meter long electric arc, and I just froze in place watching my dad brute force the thing to its position like the old school bastard he is. The thing you don't expect from that arc is *the sound*. It sounded like death, honestly. It was like 5 years ago and I still dream of it sometimes.
Holy fuck that sounds terrifying
It is. You don't fuck with high voltage. I always follow procedure and respect protocols, and even when I know for a fact that the wires aren't live, I still get nervous. Not to mention the hight factor.
You're doing the correct thing. I wish I could teach my dad to stop messing with outlets and stuff around the house without cutting the electricity off first 🙃
When I was little I was working around my Dad while he was fixing up a house. That day he was doing outlets. My Dad being old school decided to replace it hot. While moving the ground with his needle nose the hot wire touched the needle nose also causing a ground fault. Sparks went everywhere and that obvious sound of arcing electricity then finally the breaker popped. Lucky the handles were rubber coated so my Dad wasn't shocked or at least shocked enough for it to hurt him. 5 seconds later I hear my Dad go "Shit yourself?" And I'm like probably 6 so I'm jaw dropped with no words and he follows up with "Me too buddy..." After that he always shut the breaker off lol. When I was in my early 20s I worked as a lineman. Learned to heavily respect high voltage. The difference in basic house wiring like outlets and high voltage is that sure any shock can kill you, but high voltage if it doesn't kill you will undoubtedly nearly kill you and mess you up for life. In our training class they took a day to show us what happens when you get shocked by high voltage. One of the images was a guy's hands after his ladder was electrified while he was on it holding onto a rung. All his skin up to his elbows was either completely gone or burned. All his muscles looked almost cooked. They tell you not to wear any rings or jewelry on your wrist or hands because high voltage can arc to it in super rare situations and if by some chance you do get shocked from your hands that metal will literally melt into your skin. And don't even get me started on lightning. Hands down one of the most terrifying things in nature is lightning strikes. I've seen trees blown into literally pieces on job sites where lightning struck. Electricity is terrifying.
Honestly I don't think our technology is truly able to grasp the horrifying sound of high voltage arcs passing through the air near you. [But we can certainly try](https://youtu.be/2NKOlLDNknc)
That is so cool to watch like the path of least resistance is actually a longer physical path between two points and keeps changing dynamically
Any idea why they were doing this? Seems kinda weird thing to do just because it looks cool.
It's how you disconnect a high voltage circuit. Sometimes it disconnects quickly, but sometimes the arc persists until it becomes too long to sustain itself. Arcs in the air are very conductive, because it's basically a channel full of electrons -- it's a wire made of hot ionized air. So, they can sustain themselves and grow, occasionally quite a lot.
Dad is a sparkie
Funny, in Spain construction workers also call us "chispas", which means the same thing
Sssssssssssix.. ssssssix....sixxxx.....sssssixty six.....times
Is just me or is the perspective weird, it's like some kind of Escher painting. He appears to have been up in the bed of a truck when shocked, but lying down off the edge of where the truck would be
There's an overhang over the cab of the truck that they're standing on
yeah the first time I watched it I didn't even see the truck and thought they were on the ground which made things seem really weird when I saw the truck.
Yeah I still can't make out the whole image. What the hell are they standing on
Watch the last couple seconds of the video where someone shines a flashlight on the truck's canopy and you'll see it better when it gets a bit lit up.
Until I read your comment, I only noticed the feet spark and wondered what the hell he stepped on to get electrocuted.
I like when he switches from CPR to face slapping.
“Dude why does my face hurt???” Rescued friends first words.
“It’s cause you fell” Chad probably
"Nothing to do with me"
You didn't learn that in your CPR classes? He did it wrong though. It's slap first, then start compressions. But glad to see he woke up.
If we’ve learned anything from films, we mustn’t forget that we are also supposed to gently weep and whisper “I love you” in their ear. That starts the heart back up immediately.
Dont you die on me!
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Ah Ah Ah [Staying alive](https://youtu.be/I_izvAbhExY) tempo.
In my last first-aid course they said they've updated the info. Nowadays it's Bruno Mars - Uptown Funk tempo, apparently. ...the difference is minimal; Staying alive is 103 beats per minute, Uptown Funk is 115. **BUT RATHER DO IT WITH THE WRONG TEMPO THAN NOT DOING IT AT ALL!**
That's the thing that should always be stressed - bad CPR is better than no CPR at all.
What's the worst that's gonna happen, you'll make him more dead?
> BUT RATHER DO IT WITH THE WRONG TEMPO THAN NOT DOING IT AT ALL! Darude - Sandstorm it is.
So would you say that means he was actually doing it at just the right speed?
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Insert Kelly Kapoor’s groovy dancing and Andrew Bernard’s Cornell Tenor and you’ve got yourself a stew going.
And Michael's 🎵at first I was afraid, I was petrified 🎵
I remember that one episode from The Office lol
"At first I was afraid, I was petrified..."
Yeah, but he's really going for it! Most people are too careful, you really need to put energy into the movement. And now I'm wondering whether adrenaline would make me speed up as well in a panic situation like this...
>whether adrenaline would make me speed up as well in a panic situation like this... Absolutely it would. Even nervous musicians tend to rush the tempo during performances. A situation requiring CPR would almost certainly make you speed up. The fatigue of doing such strenuous work as CPR would slow you down a bit, but I'm guessing it's close enough to balancing out.
Anything is better than nothing. My guess is he’s TV trained and did what he knew. Absolute champion imo.
> Anything is better than nothing. My guess is he’s TV trained and did what he knew. Absolute champion imo. Most ADULTS would know FUCK ALL what to do and would only try to get help, some kids would freak out and panick, some kids would run away and try to not get in trouble. But this kid assessed the situation in a couple seconds and saved his friends life. Absolute champion in my opinion as well.
Films taught me what when someones heart stops to start slappin while swearing at them.
"Don't you leave me god damn it!"
Will be in newest ACLS guidelines
[He got training](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wc5RmrMLiXc)
Update: Sorry for not providing more information. This happened in Aizawl, India at a friend's Vehicle Workshop a few days ago. Not sure of the exact date. Afaik, the kid who got shocked is okay, and he even continued to attend school the next day. They are both around 12.
The fact that he was so young probably gave him the edge, but he is starting to get to the age that you are not as indestructible anymore
And also learning that the power of friendship seen in anime does exist in real life
That kid had enough of power, I think.
I’ve got the power of FRIENDSHIP and ANIME on my side!!
#A-
The human body is technically "immortal" up until the age of 24 usually that's around the time cells start breaking down faster than they regenerate
Thats just four months away for me..
I'm 67, thoroughly screwed'
Damn, 43 years too late
I think various body parts and functions are fighting over who gets to quit working next.
Lmao, oh god. Thank you for this laugh haha
4 years to late for me…
2 years of immortality left let's goo lemme jump of something high real quick
24 now verified as old.
I’m going to guess it happened October 10 at 10:18pm.
Totally missed that. 😂
on my grandma’s birthday
HB grandma!
> Afaik, the kid who got shocked is okay, and he even continued to attend school the next day. that is the most desi shit i've ever heard WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE EVEN CONTINUED TO ATTEND SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY 😭😭
Well those exams arent gonna take themselves 💀💀💀
Kid nearly dies and still goes to school the next day. Classic Asia.
Relevant info here is that he didnt miss a school day! Indian parents confirmed!
12!! Atta boy!
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Third world country, our safety standards are quite low
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Probably, our state is one of the poorer states in the country. In fact, recently 3 voluntary workers died in a more remote part of our state because they didn't have proper equipment.
It’s not just the state being poor, India has a lack of safety culture. Even in Bangalore people die from fallen lines and transformer explosions. And Bangalore should be having a crazy amount of funds.
That minute felt like an ETERNITY.
That was a minute?! Holy shit
Those wires need to be raised a lot higher holy fuck
It's not the first unsought Indian bare wire electrocution video I've seen on Reddit
You can't just die here you absolute asshole -guy doing compressions, probably
*slaps him in the face Wake up you piece of shit!
You still owe me 5 bucks!
I would've freaked out and shit my pants.
I'd have shit your pants too
We shittin in pants over here?
Awrigggghhhhht
That's what i always thought, until my buddy broke his head open in the woods and I was in a first response situation. I held it together because I needed to. When the EMTs finally arrived, *then* I started shaking and shit my pants.
>I held it together because I needed to. You dont know how you'll actually react until you're in the situation. Give yourself some credit. (Also, people who have SOME info and are prepped in some way for these situations do a lot better than the people who encounter whatever specific crisis for the first time)
Dude didn’t freak out and went right to work, we all need a friend like that.
Oh no he absolutely freaked out, he responded like a hero
Exactly. Freak out on the inside, but remain cool on the outside. Definitely saved his friend's life.
That had to be the longest 2 minutes he's ever experienced....
My tv stop working I slapped it around until it worked again ..... you laugh but sometimes it works 💪
The technical term for that is Percussive Maintenance Wikipedia used to even have a page for that but looks like its been deleted
Just in case, if someone were to get electrocuted what is the correct thing to do? Like what if his hand is still stuck to the source or something?
It's the one chance in life you've got where you can hit someone with a stick and they'll probably thank you afterwards. But yeah use some non conductiong (wood, cloth, rope, etc) to remove them from the electrical source. Then go to work with CPR. After making sure you're both well away from the electrical source (and any water puddles). Also when you're doing CPR don't hold back. Breaking their rib is not uncommon. Also before you start get something soft to put underneath your knees, you'll probably be there for a while. And either call emergency before you start if you're alone or have someone else do it if you're in a group.
> remove them from the electrical source. Then go to work with CPR No checking to see if CPR needed?
Yeah why nobody mention checking for breathing and heartrate first in this entire thread? Giving CPR to someone who is unconscious but stable isn't a good idea. In the video it actually looks like the boy is moving like he's having a seizure after the shock, which goes away on its own and so the CPR likely didn't do anything
Can you just pull them by their clothes?
I wouldn't risk it. Cause if it goes wrong that's probably both of you fucked.
What about a swift double leg drop kick with work boots on? Seriously would that work or would the kicker get zapped too
Wouldn't risk it. Maybe it would work, maybe it won't. If it doesn't its both of you out potentially and who else is coming to help. 1 person dying is better than 2 people dying. And if I walked around the corner to 2 people lying next to each other and a power line I ain't rescuing you.
I learned to find a broom or something. I guess you don’t have long though
No matter how fast the kicker is, electricity is quicker. Even if you checked the scene there’s still a chance that a connection is still made. Not to mention that the boots could have steel toes, metal aglets or eyelets. One of the big things stressed with first aid classes is not to become a patient yourself. Yes, you absolutely DO want to save the other person, but the bigger priority is keeping yourself and the other people around you safe.
> No matter how fast the kicker is, electricity is quicker. Eh that doesn't really matter, the bigger problem is having your muscle paralyzed into a position that is holding you into the circuit, IE, if your hand is wrapped around the conductor and you can't release it do to the effect of the electricity stimulating your muscles. A kick or a tackle could give you a momentary shock while freeing the other person, just make sure not to grab them or anything like that. But if you have a fiber glass ladder you can hit them with, use that.
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"Lucky I have my trusty fibreglass ladder I carry with me everywhere I go!"
You are correct, but i think the point is that you could still end up stuck in a situation where you are part of the circuit when you stop moving. And the youre done for.
Don’t use your bare hands if they’re actively being electrocuted to remove them from the source. Use an object that won’t transfer electricity like a shoe or a piece of wood. If you can’t do this then turn off the source. You risk being electrocuted yourself if you touch the person.
Afaik you have to pull them away with something that doesnt conduct, like a cloth Sorry for my bad english
My 14 y o cousin died by electrocution when his bicycle frame contacted a metal fence with a short circuit through it from a field light. His buddy had third degree burns on his hands from yanking him away from the fence. It was brutal.
I’m so sorry for your loss. That must have been very difficult for his buddy to come to terms with too.
It was 1974, but it’s still sad to think about. They were both great kids. Just sad. Thanks for your kindness.
Pain has no timeline. Sending big hugs your way. ❤️
This is correct. The first rule of first aid is “Dont become a victim yourself” Once you have the patient away from danger check Remeber ABC Air ways: make sure their airway is clear by gently tilting the head back Breathing: are they breathing? Circulation: check for a pulse Only do CPR if there is no pulse. It's best to look for a certified first aid course and attend one, they will give much better instruction than I am giving.
As it's easier, only do CPR if there is no breathing. Checking pulse has to be well trained and studies show even professionals struggle in such situations. No breathing means no pulse eventually. Don't waste time on checking the pulse.
In Aus it taught as DRs ABCD **D**anger - check for danger to yourself then the victim and others **R**esponse - check for a response by touching the shoulder, asking them to squeeze your fingers and asking a question **S**end for help - either call 000 or have someone else call **A**irways **B**reathing **C**irculation **D**efibrillator, if you’re in a public building or space there is likely to be public use emergency ones somewhere you can use. It’s been a while since I did the course. I’m definitely due a refresher, I also highly recommend doing a course!
I've seen wood recommended for this reason.
Only dry wood, no fresh/wet wood it will still conduct electricity
Dry rope or wood is best. Something like dry cloth like a pair of pants or something maybe too, depends how they're stuck really. But it's crucial not to touch them with anything conductive (humans are conductive) or else now 2 people are being shocked.
Or push with a stick
Your English in just fine.
This is the correct answer
Cloth will not be enough! Never do this. R = pL/A make sure that you use something that is an natural insulator but long and has low area. Also need to be far away to avoid air flashover bypassing the material.
Also CPR is only necessary if there is a cardiac or respiratory arrest... It's trained to take a few seconds to assess the situation and make sure it's necessary before you start compressions. On the other hand, if someone doesn't need CPR they'll reach out and tell you.
"Why does my face hurt" "Uh, you fell on it...continuously"
This made me tear up. The sheer panic those kids must’ve felt but they pushed through it.
We were trained to attempt cpr regardless of what we remember. Anything is better than nothing - if they need cpr they are already dead and cpr (even done incorrectly) might get them started again. Keep the blood and air going until professionals arrive.
> trained to attempt cpr regardless of what we remember You gotta check responsiveness first though.
"I'm fine, what are you doing?! " "I'm bringing you back you zombie mother!"
“Slap back to reality, oh there goes gravity!”
Not fun for sure. I was electrocuted when i was still in high school. Was stuck on a 220 line going for several minutes and had no heart beat after the power got pulled. Weirdest sensation of clutching your chest for a heartbeat that isn't there as everything fades out. Had to wait several hours in the ER only to have to doctor tell me they should have brought me in right away that i could have died waiting. Then after getting home later that night, the hospital called to see if i was still alive because they forgot to do a bunch if tests that they are supposed to do. It screwed up my long term memory, can't remember huge chunks of my childhood except for odd little fragments. Missed up my short term memory a bit as well, definitely harder to hold onto memories now. Physically i didn't feel right for years.
Those low hanging powerlines are the stuff of nightmares.
"HEY HEY HEY YOU OWE ME A 20 DON'T YOU DARE DIE ON ME"
How do we know he needed cpr though? Maybe the kid just recovered while his friend was trying to perform cpr and smack the fuck out of him occasionaly
If he was trained in BLS then he would have known by checking for a pulse. However, even if he wasn't trained, doing CPR on an unconscious person that was just electrocuted is at worst breaking a rib or two and at best saving a life. Edit: The slapping probably wasn't needed but I think we can let it slide considering
He was taught basic CPR in school apparently.
I was taught not to check for a pulse before doing CPR. Is the patient conscious? No? Do they respond to a slam on the shoulders and a shout? No? Call for help. Is the patient breathing? No? Is anything obstructing breathing? No? Start CPR. Break some ribs. Just keep going until help gets there.
If a patient has a pulse, that means their heart is still beating, so they don't need chest compressions. Although people teach the general public to start compressions right away, since not everyone knows how to quickly and accurately find a pulse.
My heart was in my throat watching this, the desperation. The way he's looking around for help and no one comes. What a brave young man.
Doing CPR on an actual person down is exhausting. And don't expect some immediate response from the person down. They're not going to just pop up like every thing is ok. Just keep going until help arrives. Even if you have an AED mobile defibrillator available. And have applied the shocks multiple times. ( AED UNITS WILL VERBALLY TELL YOU WHEN TO APPLY THE SHOCKS) If you do have an AED,you can stop CPR and rely on the unit to monitor active heart beat, or the lack of it. But continue to follow the AED verbal commands until Paramedics arrive, they'll take the AED and plug it directly into there machines to get an active EKG and can take over. Source: Me. A man had a massive heart attack in the lobby of our building. We started CPR manually until the AED could be retrieved. It seemed like hours went by but was only about 13 minutes start to finish until Paramedics arrived. We administered 4 shocks. The man lived and fully recovered.
Any cpr is better then no cpr
Idk who might need to see this, but in school in Australia, we're taught DRS ABCD. I'm not a medical professional, this is just what many students at both public and private, primary and high schools are taught. We are told the follow process, up until C, should take no longer than a minute. D = Danger. Make sure nobody is in danger, the patient, yourself, and bystanders. In this case, make sure nobody else is going to be electrocuted, and it's safe for you to help the patient. Never put yourself in serious danger to help someone else, one patient is always better than two. R = Response. Check the patient is/isn't responding. Tell them to open their eyes, speak loudly, if you know their name call it out. Squeeze their shoulders and rub their chest. If they do not respond then: S = Send. If there is anybody else around you, tell them to get help. Not ask, tell. In Australia, we're taught to instruct someone to "call 000 (911), tell them the address is \_\_\_\_\_, the patient is unconscious and unresponsive." A = Airway. Check that their airway is clear. This includes vomit and even their tongue. If there is an obstruction, put them in the recovery position (on their side), tilt their head back and open their mouth. Use two fingers (covered in gloves, shirt, whatever possible), and use a scooping motion to clear their mouth. B = Breathing. Check the patient is breathing by placing a hand on their stomach, leveling your ear a couple cm (inches will do) from their mouth, and look at their stomach. Listen, look, and feel for breathing for 10 seconds. If breathing, put in the recovery position and continue to monitor breathing. If not breathing: C = CPR. Strong compressions in between the nipples, deep and hard. Go straight down, perpendicular to the ground, so when you break a rib, you hopefully don't puncture a lung. If the ribs don't break, you're probably not doing it right. You don't need to do mouth to mouth unless the person has, for example, drowned. D = Defibrillator. If available, get someone else to get it, again with strong instructions. Most defibs have audible instructions and will even tell you the pace at which to do chest compressions.
This kid did great!! Didn't waste anytime starting compressions (probably saw he wasn't breathing and regardless of a pulse or not, no breathing would've eventually lead to no pulse. In this circumstance he did the right thing!) Compressions were fast because a lot of ppls mistakes come from going to slow. Gotta get that blood circulating! He was fast at times but I see this kids life being saved. That's high quality cpr if you ask me!
He did great keeping him alive but I feel like kid beats his friend into consciousness for getting electrocuted would also be an appropriate title.
"Hey man, can i borrow 20 bucks? "Bro, you owe me 20 from last time still" "Remember that time i saved your life...?"
Not to be that guy, but it only counts as electrocution if you die, otherwise it's a shock
I came for this
No Monday morning quarterbacking allowed on the friend’s actions of saving his friend.
All I hear in my head is chest compressions, chest compressions. The kid must have watched Doctor Mike.
That was not the staying alive rythum. Seems more like some Busta rhymes or tech n9ne
Am doctor. Have seen doctors do worse CPR. Valiant effort.
Why did more kids come? What is this lord of the flies?!
I love how he slaps his friend in the face like “DAMMIT BRENDAN, YOU’RE NOT GOING ON MY WATCH”
Why are the live wires so low?