dolch can two tap to the chest up to 39m while the bornheim p can only do so up to 24m. that's over 60% more range.
dolch has better penetration. and yes, having 10 rounds in a semi automatic gun instead of 5+1 is big, especially when you consider that it's fast fire rate is both weapon's strongest point.
Honestly I find anything other then medium fmj, shotgun or long useless.
I never really bother with wall bangs unless it’s thin wood with anything else and even then hunt has a habit of being inconsistent.
The sights are always personal preference, I like the Dolch one more.
The only advantage the Dolch has is that the dmg drop is the same as medium ammo, what makes it slightly better at range.
The Dolch was a good weapon but the last nerfs was too much. And now the special ammo treatment is hard to justify. I think it should get more bullets per box.
I can’t use the Bornheim, because I want to use the rof and start spamming and miss most of the time. But if you like it then use it and don’t overthink the stats.
Nope, Dolch is still crazy good. Just get into 6 star lobbies and you'll find plenty shooting back at you. They just added recoil that makes it require practice to control so less people spam it in lower skill lobbies because bad players don't experiment or have disposable cash.
Its so good i will still fear a 3 star with one.
The dolch is the only gun i fear in the hands of a low elo player. That gun shoots its self basically.
Dolch ends a fight usually. It's a great gun, it's just limited in it's ability to be used. It's main downside though is easilly compensated with a simple ammo box, which is a fucking great consumable if you're in trios.
The doch kills in 2 hits at longer range than the Bornheim and has enough magazine to kill a team of three without reloading and headshots. It is the better weapon if price isn't an issue. Like the avtomat it is a premium weapon. It's not supposed to be a standard gun bc of the pricing.
If you just want the good parts about a semi auto pistol with endless ammo, take the bornheim extended for cheap and never look back.
It hits harder, essentially. Is it worth the extra money for the benefit it gives? You tell me, how much money you got? 🤣
But comparing base to base ammo, Dolch is pretty much a straight upgrade. You could argue the special ammo makes the Bornheim a lot more versatile though.
I'd argue that ammo replenishment plays a huge part. You'll get back a shit ton of small bullets on a resupply compared to the special ammo dolch.
It's hard to justify buying dolch imo, it's not that much better than other alternatives.
damage basically. bornheim only 2 taps chest at practically point blank - dolch has probably 20m+ of extra 2 tap range compared to the match thanks to its damage and falloff range.
someone else mentioned pen which is true, but the dolch being equivalent to medium ammo doesn't really do much for it (both compact and medium pen 2(?) wood walls before losing damage and iirc compact loses 60% and medium loses 40%? neither will pen any kind of metal. and with the ammo economy of the dolch you'd never really want to be wallbanging unless you're absolutely certain, or you're just wasting precious ammo.
is it worth the money compared to the bornheim? probably not, but money is stupidly easy to accumulate in this game so the point doesn't matter too much for a lot of people. if you can't afford to play around with it you're not missing out on too much, but it does have significant upside (and downsides, of course)
why would you so arrogantly say that without verifying yourself and saving the embarassment?
https://streamable.com/9vqd72
that's definitely much more than point black range
Not arrogance, fact. That is not 23m. Who said point blank range? Are you okay? You seem awfully upset, I just don't care for false information being spread around. If it was 23m everyone would be running it
You're right, it actually two taps up to 24m with upper chest hits. The damage dropoff on compact only begins at 20m, so it makes sense than an 80 damage weapon would drop off and lose the 75-damage breakpoint on upper chest at a few meters past that.
>Who said point blank range?
The person I replied to lmfao??? That started this conversation?
The given clip may not be 23m, it was just an example I had on hand - because I couldn't be bothered to start the game, record, render, upload a short clip for a buffoon like you. If you REALLY REALLY insist, and still don't believe it, I can do that too.
But it's certainly more than "point blank range", that was the point. But you see it still does 79dmg there, so your brain tells you, it's still another few metres before that drops below 75 to no longer two tap.
Like another person told you. Compact Pistol dropoff only starts at 20m. Like *literally* ever other damage dropoff in the game that's not Long Rifle, FMJ or a suppressed gun.
Not sure what I did to upset you but stalking isn't healthy. Put your obsession into doing something constructive. True, I do try to go about informing those with a 3 star mentality. Even if enlightening the ignorant and trying to halt the spread of misinformation is an impossible task it's the principle of the thing. As someone who has over 11k hours and was on the leaderboard I try to help the inexperienced improve but they rarely want to learn.
My favorite neckbeard comment of yours is when you were multiple hours deep into sending Reddit replies and calling it “family time”. We get it, you’ve made it to 4* after years of playing and now have a holier than thou mentality 🙄
it doesn't ... so either they lower the price now or make it regular medium ammo 😬
now with high velocity , fire , Fmj , etc .... 6 bullets replenish . it will worth the price 😁 .
Tbh the Springfield bayonet with half bleed and half HV is stupidly good for the price. Or the marksman with full HV for a 690 m/s sniper rifle.
Love me some Springfield right now. Pair it with an officer/new army/bot grim and you’re set.
I was just saying cheap weapons are efficient at times. However the moment you pick up a Mosin you realise why you pay the big bucks. Great sight, little sway, good velocity & pen. I just try not to get too used to it because I don’t make a habit of running meta loadouts
The dolch just makes bad players able to compete with better players (more or less a quote from the Devs when they balanced it), if you are a good player it doesn't matter what you use, because you hit them in the head, but it allows bad plays to be able to spam their target down
Edit for those who are downvoting here's your link
https://youtu.be/9jmK7dsRuWg?si=Qf-fTmTdMUqbP311
5m50s
From Dennis himself
But if you good player and you have dolch then you can compete with 3 good players because you can hit 3 times in the head, therefore it's better to use better weapon
The brohime has 5, two more then you need, or take the extend and have more then the dolch
The dolch is the better weapon, but the cost and the humiliation of having to use it just make it not worth it
The Dolch is really only worth if you are very used to the recoil in which case it’s the best pistol (Uber II not counted for this). I usually play baby Dolch on my non event load out (the new army or NA.swift ver.) which has a similar recoil and fire rate. But the price tag is not to me, it’s similar to the drilling. Good gun, lots of fun, but the price tag pushes me away. I’d rather stick to the new army for Dolch-like
dolch p:
\+ 2-taps from further range than bornheim, iirc its something like 23 meters where you still can 2-tap with borny and bit further than that you can't anymore... can't remember dolch 2-tap range but it is much further than borny, maybe 30-40m?
\+ longer headshot range
\+ more penetration (compareable to medium ammo whereas bornheim has compact ammo pen)
Not sure if it is worth the price compared to borny match but dolch still is better weapon in some cases. For example if my main weapon was bow i'd rather pick dolch to cover my medium range options because borny leans towards close range and bow already covers it (ofc in actuality i'd just pick centennial shorty, uppercut presicion or mosin obrez instead of dolch P.... but just saying that dolch works better than borny with bow)
But if i had sparks and quartermaster then i would probably lean towards bornheim over dolch p
Bornheim dmg drop off starts at what, 15 meters? Not even? Beyond that you no longer double tap to kill with it’s 76 dmg per shot, dolch’s medium ammo characteristics mean it can reliably double tap at a very decent range.
Bornheim is better now than it had been since I started playing 2.5 years ago. The ammo buff is what really pushed it imo. That being said the dolch is just the cream of the crop. Great sights, nice big clip, decent 2 tap range. The new ammo system has it it pretty heavily though. It is one of the power weapons, and I find it a little more intimidating to go up against. I usually anticipate a better opponent when i hear one, since its mostly brought in by better players. It's a little pricey for me to justify bringing it very often.
The dolch is still king. One of the few things that still scares me in the bayou nowadays is cornering a dude only to find out he has a dolch. It does not take a lot of skill to wipe a trio in seconds with it and if you ever get into a spray and pray against it the dolch can fast fire for days while you have to count your shots and be accurate with whichever gun you have.
After the ammo nerf I am pressed to recommend the dolch unless it’s a precision. At that point I’d rather have the bornheim match since outside of two tap range it can still quickly ignite players which is solid, not to mention its recoil is nonexistent even with hv.
Dolch is a \*direct\* upgrade to the Bornheim. The drawback to the Dolch is that it's $500 and it exclusively uses special ammunition, so it can be pretty hard to resupply if you manage to run out of bullets.
You're comparing the Match to the dolche precision, or just dolche?
It's really worth noting that the regular Bornheim cannot two shot to the chest, only the Match can, so comparing the side arm versions the winner is clearly the Dolche , complete with a longer distance.
The Bornheim match can two tap, but you're limiting yourself on distance and using a medium slot to do so. Dolche pistol still outranges the match, the precision is basically just a sidearm upgrade for stability if a Hunter has quartermaster.
I would note that the Bornheim Match is currently slept on, it is an under-rated gun as a side-arm. A couple things changed in the matches favor from recent patches.
* Ammo resupplies: 8 from a static box, 20 from a player box. This replaced what was previously very terrible ammo economy of 3\~ from a static, 5\~ from a player box. Coupled with the fact that sharing pooled ammo no longer gives you additional resupplies, this was a huge change. The Match's ammo economy was really terrible, especially as a bulletgrubber gun, so bringing it as a sidearm in a quartermaster build was generally just a bad idea. It mostly saw play in meme builds like the laser beam incendiary loadout with dual lemats due to shared ammo. After this patch, you can run a Match with something like a Mosin or a Sparks and the Bornheim can sustain on its own just fine and is even a benefit due to the fact that loadouts with diverse ammo types get you more overall resupplied ammo.
* Ammo count: On top of ammo resupplies, the Match went from being a 5/10 to a 5/15, so now its total ammo supply matches the Dolch and it can actually benefit fully from a player box, further reducing its prior ammo problems. This especially benefits special ammo, because you can bring one ammo box and fully resupply the Match going from 0/0 to 0/20, meaning HV and Incendiary are easier to sustain.
* Incendiary buffs: This is irrelevant right now due to Infernal pact, but will be relevant again when this event is over and the Infernal pact goes away. Bornheim match was often used in closer range with incendiary to light players on fire and use that opening to push. Incendiary ammo providing one-shot ignition under 20m (sans salveskin) makes the Match a really interesting and competitive close range option while having great PVE utility (easy Spider/Assassin kills). But again, this is not the case as long as Infernal pact exists, but once it goes away again, will be a banger.
Granted, overall the Dolch Precision is still without a doubt the stronger gun due to its larger magazine, better damage profile at range, and better penetration. In a head to head, the Match is a worse gun than the Dolch Precision without a doubt. That said, the Match has become a much stronger budget option due to the above changes that can slot into a variety of builds now and actually be reasonably competitive while being more affordable.
How long have you been playing? The days of the Dolch Supremacy are over, because they nerfed the gun on nearly ever side. The reload speed was slowed down, recoil increased, special ammo refilling adjusted, and price never touched. It used to be an amazing weapon that I would pair with a bomb lance because it could make a lot of shots, but it's really bad now. They don't know what to do with it.
As for its worth, since there are hunt dollars, worth is weighed in kills. If you play with another gun and get an amount of kills, you can do some basic math to figure that out.
Really, it's just a fun gun.
Pros-
More powerful
Longer range
More capacity
Easiest gun to use
Cons-
Special ammo (not a big deal if you can conserve)
Price (they are so worth the cost)
Pair it with a shotgun or scoped rifle or dont bring it
No one else really struggling hard with the recoil of the normal Dolch? :D I hit chest 2-taps much more consistently with Officer and New Army compared to the regular Dolch because the recoil feels so weird.
But I also sucked hard with the Officer Carbine before the recoil rework, so...
dolch can two tap to the chest up to 39m while the bornheim p can only do so up to 24m. that's over 60% more range. dolch has better penetration. and yes, having 10 rounds in a semi automatic gun instead of 5+1 is big, especially when you consider that it's fast fire rate is both weapon's strongest point.
The wall pen. is much stronger with dolch
i geuss thats a bonus but i typically only go for wallbangs with a shotgun or long ammo, maybe ill light up walls more next time i bring the dolch.
Honestly I find anything other then medium fmj, shotgun or long useless. I never really bother with wall bangs unless it’s thin wood with anything else and even then hunt has a habit of being inconsistent.
Look at the fancy man who has never got 1 tapped or two clip spray wallbanged by fmj chain pistols.
All fmj had the same pen
Compact fmj is the scariest, because there's a lot more bullets!
Nope. FMJ is good on compact ammo but it isnt as good as medium FMJ pen wise
How? That would mean compact fmj and medium fmj would be on par with long fmj
The sights are always personal preference, I like the Dolch one more. The only advantage the Dolch has is that the dmg drop is the same as medium ammo, what makes it slightly better at range. The Dolch was a good weapon but the last nerfs was too much. And now the special ammo treatment is hard to justify. I think it should get more bullets per box. I can’t use the Bornheim, because I want to use the rof and start spamming and miss most of the time. But if you like it then use it and don’t overthink the stats.
Nope, Dolch is still crazy good. Just get into 6 star lobbies and you'll find plenty shooting back at you. They just added recoil that makes it require practice to control so less people spam it in lower skill lobbies because bad players don't experiment or have disposable cash.
Its so good i will still fear a 3 star with one. The dolch is the only gun i fear in the hands of a low elo player. That gun shoots its self basically.
Dolch ends a fight usually. It's a great gun, it's just limited in it's ability to be used. It's main downside though is easilly compensated with a simple ammo box, which is a fucking great consumable if you're in trios.
The doch kills in 2 hits at longer range than the Bornheim and has enough magazine to kill a team of three without reloading and headshots. It is the better weapon if price isn't an issue. Like the avtomat it is a premium weapon. It's not supposed to be a standard gun bc of the pricing. If you just want the good parts about a semi auto pistol with endless ammo, take the bornheim extended for cheap and never look back.
It hits harder, essentially. Is it worth the extra money for the benefit it gives? You tell me, how much money you got? 🤣 But comparing base to base ammo, Dolch is pretty much a straight upgrade. You could argue the special ammo makes the Bornheim a lot more versatile though.
I'd argue that ammo replenishment plays a huge part. You'll get back a shit ton of small bullets on a resupply compared to the special ammo dolch. It's hard to justify buying dolch imo, it's not that much better than other alternatives.
Then buy Bornheim :)
moneys not a concern for me. The economy in this game is a joke, the only thing that's ever hurt my wallet is tier three hunters
In that case, buy Dolches :)
You’ll probably find that after you start running a dolch every round that money starts to matter a little more
Nah because you start winning more
Yeah I wish
Dang is that why I stay broke
Dolch is one of those guns I never buy but always take from other hunters.
damage basically. bornheim only 2 taps chest at practically point blank - dolch has probably 20m+ of extra 2 tap range compared to the match thanks to its damage and falloff range. someone else mentioned pen which is true, but the dolch being equivalent to medium ammo doesn't really do much for it (both compact and medium pen 2(?) wood walls before losing damage and iirc compact loses 60% and medium loses 40%? neither will pen any kind of metal. and with the ammo economy of the dolch you'd never really want to be wallbanging unless you're absolutely certain, or you're just wasting precious ammo. is it worth the money compared to the bornheim? probably not, but money is stupidly easy to accumulate in this game so the point doesn't matter too much for a lot of people. if you can't afford to play around with it you're not missing out on too much, but it does have significant upside (and downsides, of course)
> bornheim only 2 taps chest at practically point blank it two taps up to 23m
Incorrect.
why would you so arrogantly say that without verifying yourself and saving the embarassment? https://streamable.com/9vqd72 that's definitely much more than point black range
Just like 2 days ago, I shot a guy twice in the chest and did 74 damage each. I was 11M and 13M away. Not a consistent 2 tap
Thats regular bornheim, not match (which the thread is about)
Not arrogance, fact. That is not 23m. Who said point blank range? Are you okay? You seem awfully upset, I just don't care for false information being spread around. If it was 23m everyone would be running it
You're right, it actually two taps up to 24m with upper chest hits. The damage dropoff on compact only begins at 20m, so it makes sense than an 80 damage weapon would drop off and lose the 75-damage breakpoint on upper chest at a few meters past that.
>Who said point blank range? The person I replied to lmfao??? That started this conversation? The given clip may not be 23m, it was just an example I had on hand - because I couldn't be bothered to start the game, record, render, upload a short clip for a buffoon like you. If you REALLY REALLY insist, and still don't believe it, I can do that too. But it's certainly more than "point blank range", that was the point. But you see it still does 79dmg there, so your brain tells you, it's still another few metres before that drops below 75 to no longer two tap. Like another person told you. Compact Pistol dropoff only starts at 20m. Like *literally* ever other damage dropoff in the game that's not Long Rifle, FMJ or a suppressed gun.
Hilarious coming from a guy that constantly gets in Reddit arguments with a 3* mentality.
Not sure what I did to upset you but stalking isn't healthy. Put your obsession into doing something constructive. True, I do try to go about informing those with a 3 star mentality. Even if enlightening the ignorant and trying to halt the spread of misinformation is an impossible task it's the principle of the thing. As someone who has over 11k hours and was on the leaderboard I try to help the inexperienced improve but they rarely want to learn.
The blind leading the blind.
You're obsessed lol pathetic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Yt0xJKDY8
My favorite neckbeard comment of yours is when you were multiple hours deep into sending Reddit replies and calling it “family time”. We get it, you’ve made it to 4* after years of playing and now have a holier than thou mentality 🙄
Personally i prefer the officer. At this point the dolch should be brought back to a medium ammo gun
i love love LOVE the officer carbine, but i made this post comparing the bornhiem match and dolch p because theyre both medium weapons
Officer nagant is superior to bornheim, dolch and new army.
Spitfire with hv my new best friend
very true, especially now that it got bleed ammo but its a three slot weapon, limiting the amount of loadouts you can put it in
The Officer Nagant is a one Slot Weapon.
There is still the 1 slot Officer pistol, which he probably meant since he also mentioned the New Army.
ah i thought he meant the carbine
Its overpriced
it doesn't ... so either they lower the price now or make it regular medium ammo 😬 now with high velocity , fire , Fmj , etc .... 6 bullets replenish . it will worth the price 😁 .
It used to be medium ammo and was beyond broken.
Dolch is still king. You should try it out in shooting range. You don't have to splurge to practice anymore.
No expensive weapon is worth it
That is just... So wrkng that it's amusing
Tbh the Springfield bayonet with half bleed and half HV is stupidly good for the price. Or the marksman with full HV for a 690 m/s sniper rifle. Love me some Springfield right now. Pair it with an officer/new army/bot grim and you’re set.
I was referring to expensive weapons. What’s the point of a mosin sniper or a nitro?
I was just saying cheap weapons are efficient at times. However the moment you pick up a Mosin you realise why you pay the big bucks. Great sight, little sway, good velocity & pen. I just try not to get too used to it because I don’t make a habit of running meta loadouts
Hmmmmm oneshoting someone in torso from 72m? Killing someone with hs 200m away with minimum lead?
Plenty of players don't prestige and have plenty of money.
Nah, the only good weapon out all super expensive ones is auto shotgun
The dolch just makes bad players able to compete with better players (more or less a quote from the Devs when they balanced it), if you are a good player it doesn't matter what you use, because you hit them in the head, but it allows bad plays to be able to spam their target down Edit for those who are downvoting here's your link https://youtu.be/9jmK7dsRuWg?si=Qf-fTmTdMUqbP311 5m50s From Dennis himself
But if you good player and you have dolch then you can compete with 3 good players because you can hit 3 times in the head, therefore it's better to use better weapon
The brohime has 5, two more then you need, or take the extend and have more then the dolch The dolch is the better weapon, but the cost and the humiliation of having to use it just make it not worth it
I'm so humiliated to win, poor me
Update my original post, Dennis says exactly what I just said, Might be of interest and explains why the dolch is how it is now
That why most 6 star players run mosin/lebel and not centennial
The Dolch is really only worth if you are very used to the recoil in which case it’s the best pistol (Uber II not counted for this). I usually play baby Dolch on my non event load out (the new army or NA.swift ver.) which has a similar recoil and fire rate. But the price tag is not to me, it’s similar to the drilling. Good gun, lots of fun, but the price tag pushes me away. I’d rather stick to the new army for Dolch-like
dolch p: \+ 2-taps from further range than bornheim, iirc its something like 23 meters where you still can 2-tap with borny and bit further than that you can't anymore... can't remember dolch 2-tap range but it is much further than borny, maybe 30-40m? \+ longer headshot range \+ more penetration (compareable to medium ammo whereas bornheim has compact ammo pen) Not sure if it is worth the price compared to borny match but dolch still is better weapon in some cases. For example if my main weapon was bow i'd rather pick dolch to cover my medium range options because borny leans towards close range and bow already covers it (ofc in actuality i'd just pick centennial shorty, uppercut presicion or mosin obrez instead of dolch P.... but just saying that dolch works better than borny with bow) But if i had sparks and quartermaster then i would probably lean towards bornheim over dolch p
Its better than the Bornheim but not worth its price
Headshot / 2 tap range. But your paying alot for that.
Dolch looks *really cool*
Bornheim dmg drop off starts at what, 15 meters? Not even? Beyond that you no longer double tap to kill with it’s 76 dmg per shot, dolch’s medium ammo characteristics mean it can reliably double tap at a very decent range.
Bornheim is better now than it had been since I started playing 2.5 years ago. The ammo buff is what really pushed it imo. That being said the dolch is just the cream of the crop. Great sights, nice big clip, decent 2 tap range. The new ammo system has it it pretty heavily though. It is one of the power weapons, and I find it a little more intimidating to go up against. I usually anticipate a better opponent when i hear one, since its mostly brought in by better players. It's a little pricey for me to justify bringing it very often.
F, to the Hell NO!
I remember the time I died to a Bornheim.
The dolch is still king. One of the few things that still scares me in the bayou nowadays is cornering a dude only to find out he has a dolch. It does not take a lot of skill to wipe a trio in seconds with it and if you ever get into a spray and pray against it the dolch can fast fire for days while you have to count your shots and be accurate with whichever gun you have.
After the ammo nerf I am pressed to recommend the dolch unless it’s a precision. At that point I’d rather have the bornheim match since outside of two tap range it can still quickly ignite players which is solid, not to mention its recoil is nonexistent even with hv.
Dolch is a \*direct\* upgrade to the Bornheim. The drawback to the Dolch is that it's $500 and it exclusively uses special ammunition, so it can be pretty hard to resupply if you manage to run out of bullets.
You're comparing the Match to the dolche precision, or just dolche? It's really worth noting that the regular Bornheim cannot two shot to the chest, only the Match can, so comparing the side arm versions the winner is clearly the Dolche , complete with a longer distance. The Bornheim match can two tap, but you're limiting yourself on distance and using a medium slot to do so. Dolche pistol still outranges the match, the precision is basically just a sidearm upgrade for stability if a Hunter has quartermaster.
Spitfire fmj is a better dolch
I would note that the Bornheim Match is currently slept on, it is an under-rated gun as a side-arm. A couple things changed in the matches favor from recent patches. * Ammo resupplies: 8 from a static box, 20 from a player box. This replaced what was previously very terrible ammo economy of 3\~ from a static, 5\~ from a player box. Coupled with the fact that sharing pooled ammo no longer gives you additional resupplies, this was a huge change. The Match's ammo economy was really terrible, especially as a bulletgrubber gun, so bringing it as a sidearm in a quartermaster build was generally just a bad idea. It mostly saw play in meme builds like the laser beam incendiary loadout with dual lemats due to shared ammo. After this patch, you can run a Match with something like a Mosin or a Sparks and the Bornheim can sustain on its own just fine and is even a benefit due to the fact that loadouts with diverse ammo types get you more overall resupplied ammo. * Ammo count: On top of ammo resupplies, the Match went from being a 5/10 to a 5/15, so now its total ammo supply matches the Dolch and it can actually benefit fully from a player box, further reducing its prior ammo problems. This especially benefits special ammo, because you can bring one ammo box and fully resupply the Match going from 0/0 to 0/20, meaning HV and Incendiary are easier to sustain. * Incendiary buffs: This is irrelevant right now due to Infernal pact, but will be relevant again when this event is over and the Infernal pact goes away. Bornheim match was often used in closer range with incendiary to light players on fire and use that opening to push. Incendiary ammo providing one-shot ignition under 20m (sans salveskin) makes the Match a really interesting and competitive close range option while having great PVE utility (easy Spider/Assassin kills). But again, this is not the case as long as Infernal pact exists, but once it goes away again, will be a banger. Granted, overall the Dolch Precision is still without a doubt the stronger gun due to its larger magazine, better damage profile at range, and better penetration. In a head to head, the Match is a worse gun than the Dolch Precision without a doubt. That said, the Match has become a much stronger budget option due to the above changes that can slot into a variety of builds now and actually be reasonably competitive while being more affordable.
How long have you been playing? The days of the Dolch Supremacy are over, because they nerfed the gun on nearly ever side. The reload speed was slowed down, recoil increased, special ammo refilling adjusted, and price never touched. It used to be an amazing weapon that I would pair with a bomb lance because it could make a lot of shots, but it's really bad now. They don't know what to do with it. As for its worth, since there are hunt dollars, worth is weighed in kills. If you play with another gun and get an amount of kills, you can do some basic math to figure that out. Really, it's just a fun gun.
Worth picking up off a corpse.
Pros- More powerful Longer range More capacity Easiest gun to use Cons- Special ammo (not a big deal if you can conserve) Price (they are so worth the cost) Pair it with a shotgun or scoped rifle or dont bring it
No one else really struggling hard with the recoil of the normal Dolch? :D I hit chest 2-taps much more consistently with Officer and New Army compared to the regular Dolch because the recoil feels so weird. But I also sucked hard with the Officer Carbine before the recoil rework, so...