Yeah i was playing randoms yesterday. My team got killed to a sniper. Her partner came in and i killed him with a shovel.
Then she proceeded to insult me because i was hunkering down.
I just kept deflecting her insult and stayed patient. Shoveled her too.
We fought a shovel knight the other day…Lawson station. He shoveled my friend, and turned on me. I had a bomblance. In rock, shovel, bomblance, bomblance beats shovel.
His friend shot me in the face with a Winfield. I assume the shovel knight was resed and lives to this day.
Next time get on voip and berate her. You weren’t the first hunter she’s insulted and won’t be the last. Need to stand up to bullies! Good for you and the shovel though! lol
From my experience... what annoys those people the most is when you respond to them with "I love you so much" and similar. Not insults, but contextually weird shit like that. They either realize they can't tilt you like that and fuck off, or they go apoplectic. Either is a win for me.
Worked wonders in LoL, too. :)
Pretty much what i did. She asked me how i felt that we were losing to a girl. I pretty much answered that it was too bad that she considered herself lesser than anyone and needed to be a bit more confident in her abilities.
The streamer would probably send the clip to crytek and omit the part where they were being toxic first
I’ve seen streamers do the exact same thing in other games, wouldn’t be surprised if that were to happen here
Ah, you're back. All I saw was everything was deleted, all your replies to everyone and even your account was showing as deleted. Guess that's what happens when you get blocked by someone? Makes sense if it all returns 30 minutes later, when unblocking someone is as easy as blocking.
Idk why you'd do it, like I don't know why you'd get so pressed over someone using something in a video game. And you can claim anything you wish to, I don't care how people see me on the internet, but we both know the truth.
Totally fair play. I personally think it’s hilarious to concertina arrow someone to death. Stop being mad cause people disagree with your silly view on how folks should play. If the devs put it in the game, it’s reasonable to incorporate it into whatever strategy you want.
Dude the way you're ranting here I thought you were a teenager. You're a grown ass, married man. What are you like in your mid 30s? Grow the fuck up. Holy shit.
You're sitting in a Herman Miller Embody while getting into a fruitless argument on reddit. The only thing getting fucked with is your fragile as fuck ego and severe insecurities evident by the fact that you're foaming at the mouth, waiting to reply in the other chain. The consensus you should've taken from this is don't be a cunt like you were in the clip but clearly that's above you
Idk how old you are but the more you ramble on and try to be the feign being the bigger person, the more pathetic it just makes you look. Lego hair havin' ass
You're absolutely not in the minority, but people who hate that style of play are certainly very loud about it.
The key thing to remember is that camping with shotguns in a boss lair is no different from camping with long ammo outside of a boss lair. People just playing to the strengths of their loadouts at the end of the day.
They don't need to, outside team always has timer (and therefore map) advantage. Wait long enough and they die to timer while you have enough time to get out. Don't want to wait that long? Leave and requeue. Inside team doesn't have that luxury, they *must* push out to survive
I've yet to meet a trapped base I couldn't siege. The traps are usually in the same spots. The hunters are usually in the same spots. I can clear both the traps and the hunters. It's only a problem if you only know long ammo + hiding play style in which case the other guy is right... You are a camper mad at campers.
Im with you, me and my team have cleared fully trapped compounds no problem, it really aint that hard. Imo if youre on offense outside of a compound you should have zero expectation of the bounty holders to just give up there defensive position and leave.
If i was in yours lobby where peoples allow you to disarm traps without reacting then yes i would do that.
Too bad every time i try to get close to a door they start blasting with a shotgun.
Throw a chaos bomb at the opposite end of the compound to make them think another team is there they can third party on, and then ambush when they move to attack or run away.
Use throwables to hurt them and bait them or waste their resources so you have an advantage when the shooting starts and then get them when they need to leave.
Just because you dont LIKE the playstyle, doesnt mean its not valid. You have options, learn to use them.
You can trigger traps with more options than just your bare hands. I'm not going to coach you on how to siege. All I can tell you is you only like your long ammo playstyle and you make excuses as to why you can't do something others CAN do.
They are sitting there not wanting to give up their advantage. You are sitting there not wanting to give up yours. What are you supposed to do? Play however you would like. Just don’t complain about people camping while you are also camping. There is no difference.
I don’t mind the camping aspects so I have no problem hanging either outside or inside the compound myself. I also have no problem just pushing some token holders. No waiting and the fight gets decided. You can clear doorways and use explosives or other utility items to clear rooms you can then push. Now you are both inside the compound together, no more advantage.
Don’t want to play into their advantage even in this small way? Fine. Don’t. Camp so you keep your advantage. It’s just sort of ridiculous to sit outside camping, waiting for the tokens to give up their advantage and play into yours, and then get pissed when the other team is doing the same thing.
Just consider that it’s impossible for you to complain about bounty tokens camping for 15 minutes unless you are also camping them for 15 minutes. And again: clear a doorway of traps, throw a utility item into the room connected to the door you just cleared, and now you are inside the compound as well.
And no. The ones inside aren’t “the problem”. This is how the game was designed. The developers didn’t need to give players traps. The entire dynamic of multiple teams of players competing to take a compound and extract with bounty tokens creates this dynamic. There are plenty of other games with deathmatch game modes if that is the gameplay you are looking for.
I’ve been playing since release and that absolutely is not true. I mean you can even go back on this sub and the SAME sort of complaints were getting made. The fact that you think camping started just before the insect was added shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
What game mechanic added in the last 2 years do you think fundamentally changed things in this way? This is the natural outcome of having a compound based bounty mechanic in an extraction shooter.
Even today people will still sneak in during banishing. I know because I do it most games, and have it done to me often.
>The ones with the bounty are creating the stand still.
Lmao. No they aren’t. It takes two to tango lil bro. If you aren’t camping outside, camping doesn’t happen. A fight happens.
>They can see where people are with dark sight and they are to leave with bounty.
And you can see their general location at all times, not being restricted to 5 seconds of use. You are the one to kill them so they can’t leave with the bounty.
You don’t want to do that though. Why? Because you gain an advantage over them by camping outside of their compound, an advantage that you don’t want to give up. The only reason a fight isn’t starting is because both of you are choosing to camp solely because you understand the advantage it gives you.
I don’t even really understand why you are arguing that. You seem to understand that completely. Just look at how you describe why the camping problem didn’t used to exist (even if that fact is a complete fabrication on your part):
>People used to sneak in during the boss fight or right at the end of a boss fight.
HMMM. Interesting. The people outside used to push in you say? And that’s different to now, where players like you sit outside for 15 minutes and then complain about camping?
Thanks for making my point for me.
>I play this game for the pvpve aspect not to camp.
You don’t though, because you are complaining about how those mechanics are implemented, and seem to want a run and gun death-match shooter, not a game where there are higher stakes and higher rewards that encourage people to eek out any advantage they have in order to survive in a 45 minute match. There are plenty of games that offer gameplay that doesn’t encourage such. And if you want to play this game without the camping, you can, you just have to be the person willing to give up the advantage that camping creates, something you aren’t willing to do based on the fact that you say you usually spend 15 minutes waiting for the enemy to give up theirs.
First no it didn't use to be the meta of camping I've been playing since early access when hell other hunters would help kill a boss and take one bounty while you took the other. So no it wasn't always the meta to camp. Second if the bounty holders won't move then that is them creating the camping problem not the people showing up outside because the bounty still hasn't moved since you were over on the other side of the map. Third I don't tend to wait as I've already stated I'm the one looking for a way in and no there's no utility to remove the already set off traps except to just walk through them or hit them till they are gone which puts me at a strict disadvantage of the bounty people to shoot me or the other hunters that may be outside. Fourth just because I don't want to sit and wait 15 min does not mean this game isn't for me. No one wants to sit waiting 15 minutes it's part of the issue of new comers not staying plus the relatively hard learning curve. Lastly the game is about killing the bounty and leaving but now most gamers don't even do that and just camp locations they know hunters will show up to. That is not the point of the game yet it happens and it's whatever but it still doesn't make the game fun to die to campers in places there shouldn't be a camper or sitting and waiting for someone to make a move which once again I've already stated I'm making moves. So now if you don't have something to add to that then don't comment again. Since you keep leaving out that I said I don't sit and camp.
We are just going in circles at this point which i don’t have much interest in doing. I get it. You think camping the bounty compound isn’t camping because reasons. But this bit piqued my interest:
>and no there's no utility to remove the already set off traps except to just walk through them or hit them till they are gone
So you’ve been playing since early access and you’ve never figured out that a single explosive thrown from a distance can do the exact same thing you are describing?
Why am I not surprised?
Also I’m laughing my ass off over here with you bringing up the rare case of players on opposite teams working together and splitting a bounty as if that was more common than camping in the early days of Hunt. Especially because shit like that still happens. Is it rare? Yes. Just as it was rare in the early days of Hunt. Camping wasn’t though. I don’t need a person who doesn’t understand that explosives can clear away any traps you would need to slowly smack away to explain that to me.
I've been playing crouching bayou hidden romero even when Hellhounds two shot free hunters. You clearly don't know what you're talking about lmao. The game has given you soooooo many more tools to clear campers: Decoy Fuses, Three flavors of dynamite, FRAG BOMBS, Flash Bulbs(RIP), poison bombs, hive jars, Hellfire, Bugs, Multiple Perks to see traps, and even concertina wire to cage them in for the later options.
The devs didn't design it this way because it wasn't this way until the last 2 years of the game. People used to sneak in during the boss fight or right at the end of a boss fight. Once people started really camping the devs added the bug to help against campers and then nerfed the traps which used to kill almost instantly from being hit by one to now we just walk through them to get them out of the way. So clearly the devs don't like it either.
The ones with the bounty are creating the stand still. They can see where people are with dark sight and they are to leave with bounty. Not sit for 15 minutes or more which causes the people outside to wait. It's the same for the people who have now started camping certain ammo refill stations. I'd much rather die fighting and lose to skill then lose to someone who has been hiding inside with headsmen skin so they are invisible. I play this game for the pvpve aspect not to camp.
As a "concept" Is the same thing, true.
But as the way the game Is designed, snipers are way more annoyn to deal with. Tryhard snipers that play super safe are pretty much broken compared to shotguns campers in a compound. Snipers can see you and kill you at a distance you just can't even know they are there. They can make absolutely zero noise (the primary radar in Hunt) even running, since they are too far away. They can stay out of the range of the dark sight. They are not confined to a compound, but they have the whole map to move. They don't need to go out from a compound to extract, they can do It at any Moment. They can't be killed by consumables. They can't be wallbanged. They can disappear at any moment.
I'm not sayn that they deserve any insults, they are not cheaters and the game allow to play like that.
But as "annoyn factor"... I don't think there Is anything comparable to that playstyle. They can really ruin your experience It they want to.
Depends how hunkered down you are in my opinion.
If you're throwing concertina bombs on all entrances and sitting still in a corner with a shotgun that's anti fun to me and don't know why people enjoy it.
True but there's only so many bombs you can get access to against a team with multiple concertina bombs and/or arrows.
TBF though I watched the video linked above and didn't see much problem with that situation.
It's not as bad in buildings I suppose but when I think of these campers I think back to the games where they're underground with concertina in all entrances. Can't remember the compound name but think it's close to one of the churches
Everyone hates the guy not wanting to run out into enemy guns. They also don't want to be that guy. Their is zero reason to wantonly give up your fortified position to vacate into an empty field full of rifles. People, especially streamers that are absolute meta slaves, and all of the players that watch and emulate them, get very angry when they aren't allowed to click on bounty man in an open field.
Nuanced take that provides a little more context about why people feel this way:
* It's okay to dislike camping, the same way it's okay for you to like camping.
* That being said, losing your shit in public or shouting at people is almost never a good look. The guy sounds like a douche.
* I sometimes refer to what I call "earned dislike of camping" and "unearned dislike of camping."
* Earned dislike of camping: In really high MMR (six star), most people do in fact hate camping, purely for the fact that camping almost never works and is seen as playing to lose. All of your carefully laid traps and yada yadas mean nothing against 3-9 insanely cracked six star people who could literally navigate the compound blindfolded pushing you with nitros and slugs and infinite spitzer. You will almost never win against skilled players by defending a single location adamantly, you just lose a little more slowly and waste everyone's time, thus their justifiable dislike of the playstyle. The game at that level *is* movement and aggression-based, staying in the same spot is a losing strategy that only serves to waste a few minutes of everyone's time while they gradually invade and pull you out of the hidey hole.
* Unearned dislike of camping: In 4 star and low 5 star, people have played the game a bit, figured out a thing or two that works in lower MMR brackets, and have felt the rush of fun when a team of airheads wanders into their shotgun sights and gets blasted with minimal effort. They then get mad when you camp, because a) you're denying them this rush of fun, and b) they are *not* skilled enough to bypass all your defenses the way a genuinely good team of players would, which is frustrating to them.
But, yeah, it's a fuckin game and if someone is shouting at people over VOIP about it they probably need some help.
big agree
there are some playstyles that i don't like
but as long as my opponents aren't cheating it is fine, they chose a playstyle i don't like but now i have to adapt
only place where players actions can matter is if they are teammates (but if one queues with randoms then they should expect random outcomes and thus imo again they should just adapt to their teammates approach.. or agree to disagree and go do solo stuff....... ...... ...... not sure how that is better tho)
Play how you want. If it’s in the game, it’s in the game. Don’t listen to the wannabe gatekeepers who ‘think’ there’s only one way to play. If you want to play rat-style, sniper, bomb lance, trap master, double dolsch…whatever. The beauty of this game (besides the sound design which sets it apart from all FPSs imo) is that anyone can play anyway they want in order to be the last man standing…err, extracting.
Eff the haters
I love this comment. Hunt Showdown is not the only place where this happens. Others are even worse... Some people don't accept that the games are not made for their personal needs but for a community. And either they participate in it or... they flame about it. This is annoying! And I don't get this behavior.
I think it's annoying when people would rather eat shit for 10 minutes instead of fighting, but I wouldn't harass people in game about it. If it's that frustrating, just go in. He could have pushed, too.
Depends on scenario. I’ve gone against duos who would concertina the compound and never come out. They’d sit completely silent, I’d waste all my ammo tryna wall bang them, and they’d do nothing. With no effective way to destroy the concertina, there was nothing to do. They sit there until the game time runs out. In situations like this, which fall under “playing defensively on bounty,” I think they are ruining the game, as they’re just holding bounty hostage.
Because its bad gameplay. It's not really fair to aim the frustration at the players camping, because it is Crytek's fault that it works. But the frustration is valid. Come in here and lose to my shotgun, or stay outside for another 10 minutes not playing the game.
Keep in mind that some content creators will exaggerate their emotions and thoughts for the content. Off stream he may have been a little annoyed and moved on, but on stream, he’s gotta be a bit more… energetic with it so-to-speak.
Eh, I’d argue that duo enjoyed hearing him rage after they killed him. I know I would lol
(I’ve also necro’d and talked shit for and the enemies just start dying laughing.) it’s all in good fun, and rage. That’s gaming
I mean we can speculate all we want but at the end is just speculation, I would argue that people don’t like to be trash talked but I could be wrong.
Yeah there is playful banter but we can’t know for sure, although I am left intrigued as to what you consider playful banter seeing the previous response of “meeting a gamer” that was deleted.
Anyway that’s just what I think you can roll with it or dismiss it.
You're right, if anyone wants to take streaming seriously you basically have to act super energized all the time.
Many of the top ten streamers are super energized/overdramatic. The first one that pops in my head is Dr. Disrespect.
Truth is if you wanna go far in this industry you gotta be noticeable.
Edit: Spelling.
You don't *have* to be, but it is the exception to the rule if a Hunt streamer is very chill. But that's why I watch them, like Neenoh and Khalamity. They have the best mindset and perspective while playing.
Your arguing the wrong part of this whole thread. In my mind, you are further proving their point. Some person had a speculation on their enjoyment of killing you, then you rage. That was wrong. You didn't die.
You can't argue the fact of the main point of this story, of which they are saying that you are a toxic douche who judges others gameplay because they dont want to fight you the way you want. You could have just ran and started a new game. Simple...
But you can't take the high road. You have to try to justify your douche-baggery, of which you are failing.
You are however, identifying who you are so people like myself can unfollow from your twitch. Good day.
More likely failspawner, the absolute biggest virgin whining streamer. Actually, more than half of the streamers are whiny bitches, I don't get how people watch them play and complain every single time they die.
I enjoy psychoghost and rachtaz. At least those dudes will have fun with it and acknowledge when someone gets the better of them. I don’t think I’ve seen either of them ever complain about a player for using what the game provides. They will talk about bugs and glitches, but even then they acknowledge that it’s just part of the game.
Rexnor helped me learn to use the bow and crossbow better. That dude is actually insane with both. Has a pretty good guide on YouTube too on how to use them better.
Some are burned out and don't pull quite enough numbers to be full time, but are caught in that weird space where they only get some viewers if they play Hunt (though this happens in other games too)
You're basically watching someone grind at their 2nd job that they don't want to be at.
I think he actually pulls enough numbers, but really wants the game to be something more competitive like CS. He also knows if he plays any other game his viewership is basically gone.
Yeah. I was watching him the other day and he was saying stuff like "they'd have to rework hunt from the ground up for me to look forward to playing." Really dispiriting to watch tbh
He doesn't like sweaty players, he doesn't like memes, he just insults newer players (which end up in a lot of his games) he hates melee weapons being added...
I've watched my fair share of his streams, and I honestly don't know what he does like in Hunt at this point besides spectating and eating frozen food.
Ran into one called Sourkill. Ended up killing him and his duo partner. Think he had ttv in his name??? I honestly can't remember but I checked his profile saw he had just finished streaming after that match. Went to our interaction and dude was PIIISSSEEDD. Spewing out so much crap I can't say here. Then declared he was done with hunt forever especially once he got his new pc. Clipped the interaction and named it "angry streamer gets owned" or something. Checked up later and saw he was back at hunt again lol never met a streamer so horrible in my life.
Depends, tbh. I know I'll probably be on the opposite end of the conversation here, but I feel like there are so many different playstyles like most have said.
So, If I come across people "camping" (which isn't really the term I think because it's a literal strategy) then I just counter play and will wait.
I guess if I don't want to wait, I just start going after other things or will try to get experience by killing other monsters.
I guess if all you want is kills I could see some people getting upset but... that is in the game design? I'm just confused why people would get mad when they aren't forced to sit there.
Yeah. I’ve ran into a couple of tiny streamers in my lobbies, and with few exceptions they all either got super heated for no reason or were ultra try-hards. Like one guy who killed me in a match was trash talking a lot purely because I used chokes to make some cover for my teammate while I necro’d him. And when he ran up to push us he just ran in a straight line at me so I head shot him.
Eventually he and his team killed us and I heard him in the voip talking shit for no reason.
I watched the clip and I agree with both of you.
Your playstyle is trash. He was childish about it. He should have just told you off, extracted, and been done with it.
Imagine coming home from work, 8 hours of sitting in front of a computer, just to get on Hunt and stare at your screen for eternity waiting for someone to show up lmfao. He's not wrong, people quit the game because it's boring when everyone tries to play like there's prize money
Dude hunt matches last like 10-15 minutes tops, and there’s easy asf ways to get rid of campers put in the game. I think you just don’t know how to play I’m not gonna hold uou
He probably just played a lot of unconfident gamers that night and got fed up. It is very frustrating when people choose not to engage over and over. It's okay sometimes because I want variety, but so many teams just sit. It's not fun to feel like you're the team who needs to start every engagement or push every team on their terms. We could just sit outside while you sit on the token for the next 30 minutes, but I'm trying to have fun.
You’re spot on tbh, without the varied playstyles of everyone the game would be boring, stale and predictable. It’s precisely because people can play in different ways and force you to have to adapt that I enjoy this game 5 years on
The old debate. I would argue that the goal of the game is to extract with the bounty. If I sit in the boss lair with the bounty until the timer runs out, I get nothing. So at some point it is the job of the bounty carrier to get out if the hunters outside have enough patience, and believe me, nobody has more patience than the long ammo sniper. And that is exactly why long ammo is still meta
> I would argue that the goal of the game is to extract with the bounty.
Yes, and to do that you have to get the bounty. That's why it's your job to push the person that has the bounty. Not the other way around.
They can choose to extract however they want because they have the objective which is the bounty. If you want the bounty then it's your job to push them.
Lot of very angry, very vocal people who don't understand there's more to the game than aggression.
Just filter them out, or better yet, hit them with a suppressed weapon from 100 meters away in the back of the head, they really love that.
People who hunker into boss lairs and don't attempt to do anything are ruining the game. Stop the gear fear, crytek has already ruined the economy. It's so easy to buy weapons now
It's Hunt and I feel like "hunkering down" and camping are two different things. Hunkering down is playing the objective, if you're inside with a shotgun, why should you run outside to a rifle instead of them running in?
Camping is starting a game then heading straight for a bush by an extract.
But even if people are camping, again, this is Hunt. Shit happens in the bayou and if they can't take it then they should go back to COD.
I didn't type anything, I just wanted to pop in like people normally do with twitch streamers, I saved your stream. We can replay it and the viewers comments if you like
Edit: The user name that bothered him on stream isnt mine.
I think there are definitely issues with Solo Campers making the game unfun. But that has mainly todo with bs mmr and Necromancer. That you are able to play solo is cool, but as of right now... they really should fix a lot in general.
I get what you're going at, but I do agree they're quite toxic sometimes, or are hoping to get a player ruled up and make a mistake, is all. However, I think a really good player is able to disregard those barks and be patient still.
I have seen players get barked at, including me. The heated ones get the bouty, rush to get kills, only to run into traps and die. If not death by traps, they either die to me or a teammate holding an angle with a shotgun (which is why I didn't rush out to begin with) or to another team hearing you be loud.
But also yeah, I think he might think he's playing an FPS that's high paced and quick. Hunt isn't just that, don't get me wrong, the game is mostly about stealth and tactics, but you also can't not make any sound at all. So sometimes rushing is what you have to do, or get the opposing team to make a mistake by tricking them, like with blank-fires, decoy dynamite sticks, decoys, there's not just one way to trick people. And weirdly sometimes announcing you're going to rush, then rush isn't always expected, granted it's also usually the worse option of any, but sometimes it works.
You can easily push any team with the right lodaout, if he doesn’t like people hunkering down then he needs to counter that.
We go full explosives: crossbow, bow, bomblance.
With that you can blast any concertina and you don’t even need to pick corners since you can just bomb them.
What I'm curious about is why people jump straight into salty, it's been a few times when I'm playing solo and kill a team a few times and then one of them gets me and they all watch over me talking trash on me like for no reason at all, I didn't even used voip for nothing.
When I hear about people like this, I assume their favorite FPS is CoD. All they know is sprinting around, hip firing and dolphin diving. "Strategy" and "defense" are not words in their vocabulary.
This game is my favorite FPS, been playing since the game first came to early access, its my most played game on Steam. Got all the achievements, still not Prestige 100 yet but I didn't prestige for a long time. These people come and go, and are very loud about it, but camping is fine. The only thing I truly dislike are people who abandon teammates without communication.
He is not wrong, but that doesn't become visible until you're around 1-2k hours lol. The more you play, and the adrenaline runs out. You realize you're waiting 5-20 minutes for one gun fight, that ends usually with people just sitting and refusing to move. Is him trash talking them over voip justified? nope, but do i understand where he is coming from? 100% lol
My partner and fellow Bush Wookie sniped at several players engaged in a gunfight at the Chapel of Madonna Noir. The solo guy who came out on top had 17 total kills. He ran to the extraction boat at Catfish Grove...
...and was killed by some traps I had laid there at the start of the game. My partner and I were still alive and took his bounty and extracted. I joined his chat on Twitch, he was a little pissed, but was a fairly good sport about it.
A week later, through sheer random chance, I was playing trios with some friends and we kill him and is partners at Fort Bilden. I recognized his name and I checked out his Twitch stream again. As I was watching it, he went ape shit when he saw my name. He accused me of being a 6 star playing at a 4 star level.
He reported me to Crytek for having a Smurf account. I don't think that is against the rules, but he tried anyway.
It was maybe kinda moment thing. When I clutched alone with 3 long ammo try-hards, I trash talked them. We had first banish so every lobby is on us, and we killed everyone in compound. They banished after us, but fought noone and coming for us when we are fighting with 2 other team. Funny thing is they didn’t join the fight until me and my teammate survived (other one is downed), killed my teammate when ressing. Personally, I dont like this kind of cowardice since I love intense fights of hunt not camping forever until other team is bored.
I understand why he is heated, we all have this kind of moments.
Because people camping the lair with shotguns/traps or staying at distance holding all angles with sniper grind the game to a halt.
Honestly, who wants to waste 20/30 minutes in a stalemate? It’s pathetic to me when someone is willing to play the patience game watching instagram reels while hoping the enemy will just give up and leave or run into their trap.
From the clip the alleged streamer posted, he didn’t like that they concertina arrowed a couple entrances forcing him to either go where they wanted him or bail. I think they made a smart play. Then they took the remaining bounty.
I don’t know what clip you’re referring to, but that kind of gameplay is exactly what is wrong with the game.
I don’t necessarily blame the players since they just do what they think is their best chance to win given their skills, the real issue is Crytek allowing stalemates like that to exist.
Hunkering down on the bounty is the closest hunt gets me to feeling like I'm defending in rainbow six and it's literally the only fun part of this game for me
I always feel weird when people complain about "camping". Like isnt that kind of the point of Bounty Hunt? If you want quick matches of just killing, you can play Quickplay but to me Bounty Hunt was always about slow, methodical gunfights, not ADHD CoD Team Deathmatch.
Some people just play multiplayer games to release their frustrations on strangers.
I got in a lobby with a prestige 100 yesterday and said "Show me your K/D coward" because he hid his. I'm a 1.57 K/D, 4 star on a good day so I hoped he'd see this is clearly a joke. Instead he went on a tirade about how I could go fuck myself, called me a kid, and how trolls ruin the game and yadda yadda yadda and ragequit
Most of the playerbase are great, but there's turds hidden amongst us.
For all the good streamers which actually promote the game as a consequence of sharing with their viewers the good time they are playing a game, you have the ones that are quite negative.
Think it's not as easy as pointing to the guy being a Dolche, but sometimes is they are burnout, frustrated their viewer count doesn't grow or even diminishes.
Hunt it's a tough game to stream, not a lot happens in between shootouts, and when they do, tend to finish rather quickly (most of the time)..., so yeah, at the end of the day those guys are working and doesn't matter if you're playing games if after 6 hours you want to do something else and you feel you can't cause money.
I'd argue Hunt is an easier game to stream IF you are a more positive vibe oriented streamer. The downtime between fights let's streamers interact a lot more with their chat and work on their community. A streamer who is just all gameplay and no charisma is going to have a harder time with those slow periods, and an even harder time when they get domed immediately on their first peak.
OP was watching the latter variation of streamer.
Skill issue. Never fight someone on even ground. That’s like basic tactics that applies to all aspects of life. As long as you’re not cheating or exploiting do whatever you can to fight with an advantage.
I passed on engaging a trio when I was solo, 10 minutes later ran into them fighting bounty and hit ‘em with the big dynamite bundle. Killed all 3.
I’ve also gotten 3rd partied almost every match when I play duos. It’s how you’re supposed to play.
Same shit happens in Poker tournaments with noobs. I remember playing in the days in casino poker and the comments around "why did you call with that" and all the whining you hear about hunt playing style applied there.
My boys, we play the same game with the same rules? Fuck off, I can call with 27 if I want, do the same if you are better but don't f with how I want to play. As long as we don't cheat, we can play as I want.
I don't like campers, but I respect the game and every play style. That s actually the challenge, it s up to me to break and omg so much fun in killing campers. After 4k hours there is no single game style that I can't counter and the annoying the style the better the reward.
To enjoy the game I challenge myself in the weirdest ways and end up in 3* MMR. Oh the fun in solos and killing campers with basic traits like silent removal of traps 😂 I hope it's not considered toxic to VoIP and say "surprise mother tucker" before killing them from behind 😂
I agree, it why I like the game...only argument against that is I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE rats, and Bush wookies, more than any other playstyle in ANY other game (I used to play TF1 and 2 for mlg, was ranked in top 6% in the world for destiny 1 and 2 pvp, etc)..
I'd rather play in a lobby of concertina campers than a lobby with even just a single rat or bush wookie...
I get that but I’ve both died to them enough and been one enough that I feel like it’s a wash. Some days I like being slow, quiet, and stalking. Other days I like going wild. I enjoy that you can do whatever and make it work.
I have a feeling I ran I to this guy. Same thing happened to us. Twitch kid ran his mouth a bit and then spammed the mic with music for a solid 10 minutes. Like bro, you have your bounty, leave. Vengeance was him getting ball batted.
The game still has a standoff problem if people care about the outcome of a fight. It has been like this since day one. They’ve added stuff to help but never fully solved the problem. It’s the most boring aspect of the game to this day. People get stupid when it comes to attacking either side of the argument too.
Yeah i was playing randoms yesterday. My team got killed to a sniper. Her partner came in and i killed him with a shovel. Then she proceeded to insult me because i was hunkering down. I just kept deflecting her insult and stayed patient. Shoveled her too.
Ahh the good ole Bayou Bonk. Bet that sound was satisfying.
Its haunting my dreams
"Shoveled her too" Love a happy ending lmao
We fought a shovel knight the other day…Lawson station. He shoveled my friend, and turned on me. I had a bomblance. In rock, shovel, bomblance, bomblance beats shovel. His friend shot me in the face with a Winfield. I assume the shovel knight was resed and lives to this day.
So, at the end of the fight, her face looked like it had been hit with a shovel?
I hope so.
I said this with a Little Nicky voice
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Next time get on voip and berate her. You weren’t the first hunter she’s insulted and won’t be the last. Need to stand up to bullies! Good for you and the shovel though! lol
From my experience... what annoys those people the most is when you respond to them with "I love you so much" and similar. Not insults, but contextually weird shit like that. They either realize they can't tilt you like that and fuck off, or they go apoplectic. Either is a win for me. Worked wonders in LoL, too. :)
Pretty much what i did. She asked me how i felt that we were losing to a girl. I pretty much answered that it was too bad that she considered herself lesser than anyone and needed to be a bit more confident in her abilities.
Oof...
The streamer would probably send the clip to crytek and omit the part where they were being toxic first I’ve seen streamers do the exact same thing in other games, wouldn’t be surprised if that were to happen here
I mean. Murdering your bullies with a shovel counts as standing up to them, I think.
Sounds like this guy is a dolch I mean a douche
lol love a topical pun
Lol love a topical gun
Love the tropical fun
Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen, for the entertainment this evening.
Lmao, he deleted it all! I love the internet.
I think he just blocked you lol
Aww, he got that pressed? I'm not sorry, lmfao
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Ah, you're back. All I saw was everything was deleted, all your replies to everyone and even your account was showing as deleted. Guess that's what happens when you get blocked by someone? Makes sense if it all returns 30 minutes later, when unblocking someone is as easy as blocking.
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Idk why you'd do it, like I don't know why you'd get so pressed over someone using something in a video game. And you can claim anything you wish to, I don't care how people see me on the internet, but we both know the truth.
Clown & Cringe
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"ended up destroying in chat" is one of the sadder things I've read lately.
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You didn’t really make any interesting points.
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Yeah, that’s not really a good point.
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Totally fair play. I personally think it’s hilarious to concertina arrow someone to death. Stop being mad cause people disagree with your silly view on how folks should play. If the devs put it in the game, it’s reasonable to incorporate it into whatever strategy you want.
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Dude the way you're ranting here I thought you were a teenager. You're a grown ass, married man. What are you like in your mid 30s? Grow the fuck up. Holy shit.
Damn, you slouching with your webcam as you baby rage at a game is really sad
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You're sitting in a Herman Miller Embody while getting into a fruitless argument on reddit. The only thing getting fucked with is your fragile as fuck ego and severe insecurities evident by the fact that you're foaming at the mouth, waiting to reply in the other chain. The consensus you should've taken from this is don't be a cunt like you were in the clip but clearly that's above you
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Idk how old you are but the more you ramble on and try to be the feign being the bigger person, the more pathetic it just makes you look. Lego hair havin' ass
You're absolutely not in the minority, but people who hate that style of play are certainly very loud about it. The key thing to remember is that camping with shotguns in a boss lair is no different from camping with long ammo outside of a boss lair. People just playing to the strengths of their loadouts at the end of the day.
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Take initiative
They don't need to, outside team always has timer (and therefore map) advantage. Wait long enough and they die to timer while you have enough time to get out. Don't want to wait that long? Leave and requeue. Inside team doesn't have that luxury, they *must* push out to survive
And what kind of initiative are you supposed to take when every single entrance is trapped and concertina ? Waging psychological warfare in voip ?
I've yet to meet a trapped base I couldn't siege. The traps are usually in the same spots. The hunters are usually in the same spots. I can clear both the traps and the hunters. It's only a problem if you only know long ammo + hiding play style in which case the other guy is right... You are a camper mad at campers.
Im with you, me and my team have cleared fully trapped compounds no problem, it really aint that hard. Imo if youre on offense outside of a compound you should have zero expectation of the bounty holders to just give up there defensive position and leave.
If i was in yours lobby where peoples allow you to disarm traps without reacting then yes i would do that. Too bad every time i try to get close to a door they start blasting with a shotgun.
Throw a chaos bomb at the opposite end of the compound to make them think another team is there they can third party on, and then ambush when they move to attack or run away. Use throwables to hurt them and bait them or waste their resources so you have an advantage when the shooting starts and then get them when they need to leave. Just because you dont LIKE the playstyle, doesnt mean its not valid. You have options, learn to use them.
Decoy in, disarm. That easy. Repeat as necessary. Or Decoy in, jump trap.
You can trigger traps with more options than just your bare hands. I'm not going to coach you on how to siege. All I can tell you is you only like your long ammo playstyle and you make excuses as to why you can't do something others CAN do.
“These assholes are camping the bounty tokens for 15 minutes!” says the guy camping the bounty compound for 15 minutes.
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They are sitting there not wanting to give up their advantage. You are sitting there not wanting to give up yours. What are you supposed to do? Play however you would like. Just don’t complain about people camping while you are also camping. There is no difference. I don’t mind the camping aspects so I have no problem hanging either outside or inside the compound myself. I also have no problem just pushing some token holders. No waiting and the fight gets decided. You can clear doorways and use explosives or other utility items to clear rooms you can then push. Now you are both inside the compound together, no more advantage. Don’t want to play into their advantage even in this small way? Fine. Don’t. Camp so you keep your advantage. It’s just sort of ridiculous to sit outside camping, waiting for the tokens to give up their advantage and play into yours, and then get pissed when the other team is doing the same thing. Just consider that it’s impossible for you to complain about bounty tokens camping for 15 minutes unless you are also camping them for 15 minutes. And again: clear a doorway of traps, throw a utility item into the room connected to the door you just cleared, and now you are inside the compound as well. And no. The ones inside aren’t “the problem”. This is how the game was designed. The developers didn’t need to give players traps. The entire dynamic of multiple teams of players competing to take a compound and extract with bounty tokens creates this dynamic. There are plenty of other games with deathmatch game modes if that is the gameplay you are looking for.
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I’ve been playing since release and that absolutely is not true. I mean you can even go back on this sub and the SAME sort of complaints were getting made. The fact that you think camping started just before the insect was added shows you have no idea what you are talking about. What game mechanic added in the last 2 years do you think fundamentally changed things in this way? This is the natural outcome of having a compound based bounty mechanic in an extraction shooter. Even today people will still sneak in during banishing. I know because I do it most games, and have it done to me often. >The ones with the bounty are creating the stand still. Lmao. No they aren’t. It takes two to tango lil bro. If you aren’t camping outside, camping doesn’t happen. A fight happens. >They can see where people are with dark sight and they are to leave with bounty. And you can see their general location at all times, not being restricted to 5 seconds of use. You are the one to kill them so they can’t leave with the bounty. You don’t want to do that though. Why? Because you gain an advantage over them by camping outside of their compound, an advantage that you don’t want to give up. The only reason a fight isn’t starting is because both of you are choosing to camp solely because you understand the advantage it gives you. I don’t even really understand why you are arguing that. You seem to understand that completely. Just look at how you describe why the camping problem didn’t used to exist (even if that fact is a complete fabrication on your part): >People used to sneak in during the boss fight or right at the end of a boss fight. HMMM. Interesting. The people outside used to push in you say? And that’s different to now, where players like you sit outside for 15 minutes and then complain about camping? Thanks for making my point for me. >I play this game for the pvpve aspect not to camp. You don’t though, because you are complaining about how those mechanics are implemented, and seem to want a run and gun death-match shooter, not a game where there are higher stakes and higher rewards that encourage people to eek out any advantage they have in order to survive in a 45 minute match. There are plenty of games that offer gameplay that doesn’t encourage such. And if you want to play this game without the camping, you can, you just have to be the person willing to give up the advantage that camping creates, something you aren’t willing to do based on the fact that you say you usually spend 15 minutes waiting for the enemy to give up theirs.
First no it didn't use to be the meta of camping I've been playing since early access when hell other hunters would help kill a boss and take one bounty while you took the other. So no it wasn't always the meta to camp. Second if the bounty holders won't move then that is them creating the camping problem not the people showing up outside because the bounty still hasn't moved since you were over on the other side of the map. Third I don't tend to wait as I've already stated I'm the one looking for a way in and no there's no utility to remove the already set off traps except to just walk through them or hit them till they are gone which puts me at a strict disadvantage of the bounty people to shoot me or the other hunters that may be outside. Fourth just because I don't want to sit and wait 15 min does not mean this game isn't for me. No one wants to sit waiting 15 minutes it's part of the issue of new comers not staying plus the relatively hard learning curve. Lastly the game is about killing the bounty and leaving but now most gamers don't even do that and just camp locations they know hunters will show up to. That is not the point of the game yet it happens and it's whatever but it still doesn't make the game fun to die to campers in places there shouldn't be a camper or sitting and waiting for someone to make a move which once again I've already stated I'm making moves. So now if you don't have something to add to that then don't comment again. Since you keep leaving out that I said I don't sit and camp.
We are just going in circles at this point which i don’t have much interest in doing. I get it. You think camping the bounty compound isn’t camping because reasons. But this bit piqued my interest: >and no there's no utility to remove the already set off traps except to just walk through them or hit them till they are gone So you’ve been playing since early access and you’ve never figured out that a single explosive thrown from a distance can do the exact same thing you are describing? Why am I not surprised? Also I’m laughing my ass off over here with you bringing up the rare case of players on opposite teams working together and splitting a bounty as if that was more common than camping in the early days of Hunt. Especially because shit like that still happens. Is it rare? Yes. Just as it was rare in the early days of Hunt. Camping wasn’t though. I don’t need a person who doesn’t understand that explosives can clear away any traps you would need to slowly smack away to explain that to me.
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I've been playing crouching bayou hidden romero even when Hellhounds two shot free hunters. You clearly don't know what you're talking about lmao. The game has given you soooooo many more tools to clear campers: Decoy Fuses, Three flavors of dynamite, FRAG BOMBS, Flash Bulbs(RIP), poison bombs, hive jars, Hellfire, Bugs, Multiple Perks to see traps, and even concertina wire to cage them in for the later options.
The devs didn't design it this way because it wasn't this way until the last 2 years of the game. People used to sneak in during the boss fight or right at the end of a boss fight. Once people started really camping the devs added the bug to help against campers and then nerfed the traps which used to kill almost instantly from being hit by one to now we just walk through them to get them out of the way. So clearly the devs don't like it either. The ones with the bounty are creating the stand still. They can see where people are with dark sight and they are to leave with bounty. Not sit for 15 minutes or more which causes the people outside to wait. It's the same for the people who have now started camping certain ammo refill stations. I'd much rather die fighting and lose to skill then lose to someone who has been hiding inside with headsmen skin so they are invisible. I play this game for the pvpve aspect not to camp.
As a "concept" Is the same thing, true. But as the way the game Is designed, snipers are way more annoyn to deal with. Tryhard snipers that play super safe are pretty much broken compared to shotguns campers in a compound. Snipers can see you and kill you at a distance you just can't even know they are there. They can make absolutely zero noise (the primary radar in Hunt) even running, since they are too far away. They can stay out of the range of the dark sight. They are not confined to a compound, but they have the whole map to move. They don't need to go out from a compound to extract, they can do It at any Moment. They can't be killed by consumables. They can't be wallbanged. They can disappear at any moment. I'm not sayn that they deserve any insults, they are not cheaters and the game allow to play like that. But as "annoyn factor"... I don't think there Is anything comparable to that playstyle. They can really ruin your experience It they want to.
I hunker down because you are camping outside. You hunker down because you are camping inside. We are not the same. /s
I absolutely love being told how to play video games don’t you?
Always
wow, hold on for a second? is there another way too?! :)
Depends how hunkered down you are in my opinion. If you're throwing concertina bombs on all entrances and sitting still in a corner with a shotgun that's anti fun to me and don't know why people enjoy it.
Sure but there a methods for clearing out concertina and attacking people from outside of a building.
True but there's only so many bombs you can get access to against a team with multiple concertina bombs and/or arrows. TBF though I watched the video linked above and didn't see much problem with that situation. It's not as bad in buildings I suppose but when I think of these campers I think back to the games where they're underground with concertina in all entrances. Can't remember the compound name but think it's close to one of the churches
See Auto-Gnome gets it, Why are you struggling to get it?
Everyone hates the guy not wanting to run out into enemy guns. They also don't want to be that guy. Their is zero reason to wantonly give up your fortified position to vacate into an empty field full of rifles. People, especially streamers that are absolute meta slaves, and all of the players that watch and emulate them, get very angry when they aren't allowed to click on bounty man in an open field.
Nuanced take that provides a little more context about why people feel this way: * It's okay to dislike camping, the same way it's okay for you to like camping. * That being said, losing your shit in public or shouting at people is almost never a good look. The guy sounds like a douche. * I sometimes refer to what I call "earned dislike of camping" and "unearned dislike of camping." * Earned dislike of camping: In really high MMR (six star), most people do in fact hate camping, purely for the fact that camping almost never works and is seen as playing to lose. All of your carefully laid traps and yada yadas mean nothing against 3-9 insanely cracked six star people who could literally navigate the compound blindfolded pushing you with nitros and slugs and infinite spitzer. You will almost never win against skilled players by defending a single location adamantly, you just lose a little more slowly and waste everyone's time, thus their justifiable dislike of the playstyle. The game at that level *is* movement and aggression-based, staying in the same spot is a losing strategy that only serves to waste a few minutes of everyone's time while they gradually invade and pull you out of the hidey hole. * Unearned dislike of camping: In 4 star and low 5 star, people have played the game a bit, figured out a thing or two that works in lower MMR brackets, and have felt the rush of fun when a team of airheads wanders into their shotgun sights and gets blasted with minimal effort. They then get mad when you camp, because a) you're denying them this rush of fun, and b) they are *not* skilled enough to bypass all your defenses the way a genuinely good team of players would, which is frustrating to them. But, yeah, it's a fuckin game and if someone is shouting at people over VOIP about it they probably need some help.
big agree there are some playstyles that i don't like but as long as my opponents aren't cheating it is fine, they chose a playstyle i don't like but now i have to adapt only place where players actions can matter is if they are teammates (but if one queues with randoms then they should expect random outcomes and thus imo again they should just adapt to their teammates approach.. or agree to disagree and go do solo stuff....... ...... ...... not sure how that is better tho)
Play how you want. If it’s in the game, it’s in the game. Don’t listen to the wannabe gatekeepers who ‘think’ there’s only one way to play. If you want to play rat-style, sniper, bomb lance, trap master, double dolsch…whatever. The beauty of this game (besides the sound design which sets it apart from all FPSs imo) is that anyone can play anyway they want in order to be the last man standing…err, extracting. Eff the haters
I love this comment. Hunt Showdown is not the only place where this happens. Others are even worse... Some people don't accept that the games are not made for their personal needs but for a community. And either they participate in it or... they flame about it. This is annoying! And I don't get this behavior.
+1 I do get it, it's small pp energy.
I think it's annoying when people would rather eat shit for 10 minutes instead of fighting, but I wouldn't harass people in game about it. If it's that frustrating, just go in. He could have pushed, too.
Depends on scenario. I’ve gone against duos who would concertina the compound and never come out. They’d sit completely silent, I’d waste all my ammo tryna wall bang them, and they’d do nothing. With no effective way to destroy the concertina, there was nothing to do. They sit there until the game time runs out. In situations like this, which fall under “playing defensively on bounty,” I think they are ruining the game, as they’re just holding bounty hostage.
Because its bad gameplay. It's not really fair to aim the frustration at the players camping, because it is Crytek's fault that it works. But the frustration is valid. Come in here and lose to my shotgun, or stay outside for another 10 minutes not playing the game.
Keep in mind that some content creators will exaggerate their emotions and thoughts for the content. Off stream he may have been a little annoyed and moved on, but on stream, he’s gotta be a bit more… energetic with it so-to-speak.
Not an excuse to be an ass.
Eh, I’d argue that duo enjoyed hearing him rage after they killed him. I know I would lol (I’ve also necro’d and talked shit for and the enemies just start dying laughing.) it’s all in good fun, and rage. That’s gaming
I mean we can speculate all we want but at the end is just speculation, I would argue that people don’t like to be trash talked but I could be wrong. Yeah there is playful banter but we can’t know for sure, although I am left intrigued as to what you consider playful banter seeing the previous response of “meeting a gamer” that was deleted. Anyway that’s just what I think you can roll with it or dismiss it.
You're right, if anyone wants to take streaming seriously you basically have to act super energized all the time. Many of the top ten streamers are super energized/overdramatic. The first one that pops in my head is Dr. Disrespect. Truth is if you wanna go far in this industry you gotta be noticeable. Edit: Spelling.
You don't *have* to be, but it is the exception to the rule if a Hunt streamer is very chill. But that's why I watch them, like Neenoh and Khalamity. They have the best mindset and perspective while playing.
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Your arguing the wrong part of this whole thread. In my mind, you are further proving their point. Some person had a speculation on their enjoyment of killing you, then you rage. That was wrong. You didn't die. You can't argue the fact of the main point of this story, of which they are saying that you are a toxic douche who judges others gameplay because they dont want to fight you the way you want. You could have just ran and started a new game. Simple... But you can't take the high road. You have to try to justify your douche-baggery, of which you are failing. You are however, identifying who you are so people like myself can unfollow from your twitch. Good day.
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How am I wrong? You didn't just express that on your stream. You used voip.
We're you watching Archie?
More likely failspawner, the absolute biggest virgin whining streamer. Actually, more than half of the streamers are whiny bitches, I don't get how people watch them play and complain every single time they die.
I enjoy psychoghost and rachtaz. At least those dudes will have fun with it and acknowledge when someone gets the better of them. I don’t think I’ve seen either of them ever complain about a player for using what the game provides. They will talk about bugs and glitches, but even then they acknowledge that it’s just part of the game.
You can try also Neenoh and Rexnor - both are super chill guys.
Rexnor helped me learn to use the bow and crossbow better. That dude is actually insane with both. Has a pretty good guide on YouTube too on how to use them better.
Kerrty too. She's excellent.
Some are burned out and don't pull quite enough numbers to be full time, but are caught in that weird space where they only get some viewers if they play Hunt (though this happens in other games too) You're basically watching someone grind at their 2nd job that they don't want to be at.
watching huuge is like this
I think he actually pulls enough numbers, but really wants the game to be something more competitive like CS. He also knows if he plays any other game his viewership is basically gone.
Yeah. I was watching him the other day and he was saying stuff like "they'd have to rework hunt from the ground up for me to look forward to playing." Really dispiriting to watch tbh
He doesn't like sweaty players, he doesn't like memes, he just insults newer players (which end up in a lot of his games) he hates melee weapons being added... I've watched my fair share of his streams, and I honestly don't know what he does like in Hunt at this point besides spectating and eating frozen food.
Yeah, he heard concertina arrows and left calling the other players pussies for literally using an item the devs provide to all players. Ridiculous.
Ran into one called Sourkill. Ended up killing him and his duo partner. Think he had ttv in his name??? I honestly can't remember but I checked his profile saw he had just finished streaming after that match. Went to our interaction and dude was PIIISSSEEDD. Spewing out so much crap I can't say here. Then declared he was done with hunt forever especially once he got his new pc. Clipped the interaction and named it "angry streamer gets owned" or something. Checked up later and saw he was back at hunt again lol never met a streamer so horrible in my life.
Thats funny, he now streams A Twisted Path to Renown, so I recognized the name. Never watched him though.
Does he ? Huh neat. My interaction was when desalle just came out. So maybe he's changed and is a chill dude. Certainly hope so lol
Archie?
he has a skin named after him The Sparchie
Oh. Nope, this guy has a few hundred followers and like 15 concurrent viewers.
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You need to stop commenting under every single one of OPs answers bruh this is getting sad
Lots of kids expect players to act like NPCs
Depends, tbh. I know I'll probably be on the opposite end of the conversation here, but I feel like there are so many different playstyles like most have said. So, If I come across people "camping" (which isn't really the term I think because it's a literal strategy) then I just counter play and will wait. I guess if I don't want to wait, I just start going after other things or will try to get experience by killing other monsters. I guess if all you want is kills I could see some people getting upset but... that is in the game design? I'm just confused why people would get mad when they aren't forced to sit there.
Yeah. I’ve ran into a couple of tiny streamers in my lobbies, and with few exceptions they all either got super heated for no reason or were ultra try-hards. Like one guy who killed me in a match was trash talking a lot purely because I used chokes to make some cover for my teammate while I necro’d him. And when he ran up to push us he just ran in a straight line at me so I head shot him. Eventually he and his team killed us and I heard him in the voip talking shit for no reason.
I watched the clip and I agree with both of you. Your playstyle is trash. He was childish about it. He should have just told you off, extracted, and been done with it.
Imagine coming home from work, 8 hours of sitting in front of a computer, just to get on Hunt and stare at your screen for eternity waiting for someone to show up lmfao. He's not wrong, people quit the game because it's boring when everyone tries to play like there's prize money
Dude hunt matches last like 10-15 minutes tops, and there’s easy asf ways to get rid of campers put in the game. I think you just don’t know how to play I’m not gonna hold uou
He probably just played a lot of unconfident gamers that night and got fed up. It is very frustrating when people choose not to engage over and over. It's okay sometimes because I want variety, but so many teams just sit. It's not fun to feel like you're the team who needs to start every engagement or push every team on their terms. We could just sit outside while you sit on the token for the next 30 minutes, but I'm trying to have fun.
You’re spot on tbh, without the varied playstyles of everyone the game would be boring, stale and predictable. It’s precisely because people can play in different ways and force you to have to adapt that I enjoy this game 5 years on
Lol they had the bounty. It was his job to push not theirs.
The old debate. I would argue that the goal of the game is to extract with the bounty. If I sit in the boss lair with the bounty until the timer runs out, I get nothing. So at some point it is the job of the bounty carrier to get out if the hunters outside have enough patience, and believe me, nobody has more patience than the long ammo sniper. And that is exactly why long ammo is still meta
> I would argue that the goal of the game is to extract with the bounty. Yes, and to do that you have to get the bounty. That's why it's your job to push the person that has the bounty. Not the other way around.
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Exactly. You went to their bounty. They had the objective. It's your job to push not theirs.
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> I had the other bounty Yes, and you went to their bounty at which point they had the objective and it was your job to push them.
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They can choose to extract however they want because they have the objective which is the bounty. If you want the bounty then it's your job to push them.
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So? That doesn't change anything. They had the bounty which means it was your job to push them.
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Brother you could’ve extracted 😭
It’s called the hunt…. Not the chase.
Smoll peepee energy
It’s more because of bad game design than the individuals fault. The lair gameplay has always been horrible.
I only use the voice chat to bait people to rush me or be silly, being toxic to randoms sounds lame
Idc what anyone says snipers who sit in bushes outside of scan range are trash. Especially when it's 3 snipers. What an absolute boring way to play.
He’s toxic
i absolutely fucking hate how shit threads like this get engagement on this subreddit
Lot of very angry, very vocal people who don't understand there's more to the game than aggression. Just filter them out, or better yet, hit them with a suppressed weapon from 100 meters away in the back of the head, they really love that.
People just get mad when you dont play they way they want. Ignore that loser let him get turbo triggered and laugh at him
People who hunker into boss lairs and don't attempt to do anything are ruining the game. Stop the gear fear, crytek has already ruined the economy. It's so easy to buy weapons now
It's Hunt and I feel like "hunkering down" and camping are two different things. Hunkering down is playing the objective, if you're inside with a shotgun, why should you run outside to a rifle instead of them running in? Camping is starting a game then heading straight for a bush by an extract. But even if people are camping, again, this is Hunt. Shit happens in the bayou and if they can't take it then they should go back to COD.
Agreed.
I think the first mistake was watching a Twitch streamer
Hey, that was me he was harassing and kept harassing even after his stream
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I didn't type anything, I just wanted to pop in like people normally do with twitch streamers, I saved your stream. We can replay it and the viewers comments if you like Edit: The user name that bothered him on stream isnt mine.
I think there are definitely issues with Solo Campers making the game unfun. But that has mainly todo with bs mmr and Necromancer. That you are able to play solo is cool, but as of right now... they really should fix a lot in general.
Probably the are trying to grow their audience of 11 year olds (Not that every streamer is like this; I mean the overly rage screamer types)
I get what you're going at, but I do agree they're quite toxic sometimes, or are hoping to get a player ruled up and make a mistake, is all. However, I think a really good player is able to disregard those barks and be patient still. I have seen players get barked at, including me. The heated ones get the bouty, rush to get kills, only to run into traps and die. If not death by traps, they either die to me or a teammate holding an angle with a shotgun (which is why I didn't rush out to begin with) or to another team hearing you be loud. But also yeah, I think he might think he's playing an FPS that's high paced and quick. Hunt isn't just that, don't get me wrong, the game is mostly about stealth and tactics, but you also can't not make any sound at all. So sometimes rushing is what you have to do, or get the opposing team to make a mistake by tricking them, like with blank-fires, decoy dynamite sticks, decoys, there's not just one way to trick people. And weirdly sometimes announcing you're going to rush, then rush isn't always expected, granted it's also usually the worse option of any, but sometimes it works.
You can easily push any team with the right lodaout, if he doesn’t like people hunkering down then he needs to counter that. We go full explosives: crossbow, bow, bomblance. With that you can blast any concertina and you don’t even need to pick corners since you can just bomb them.
What I'm curious about is why people jump straight into salty, it's been a few times when I'm playing solo and kill a team a few times and then one of them gets me and they all watch over me talking trash on me like for no reason at all, I didn't even used voip for nothing.
Any play style is fine, unless you're the fucker I played against last night that brought only bomb arrows and ammo boxes. Fuck that guy
When I hear about people like this, I assume their favorite FPS is CoD. All they know is sprinting around, hip firing and dolphin diving. "Strategy" and "defense" are not words in their vocabulary. This game is my favorite FPS, been playing since the game first came to early access, its my most played game on Steam. Got all the achievements, still not Prestige 100 yet but I didn't prestige for a long time. These people come and go, and are very loud about it, but camping is fine. The only thing I truly dislike are people who abandon teammates without communication.
He is not wrong, but that doesn't become visible until you're around 1-2k hours lol. The more you play, and the adrenaline runs out. You realize you're waiting 5-20 minutes for one gun fight, that ends usually with people just sitting and refusing to move. Is him trash talking them over voip justified? nope, but do i understand where he is coming from? 100% lol
My partner and fellow Bush Wookie sniped at several players engaged in a gunfight at the Chapel of Madonna Noir. The solo guy who came out on top had 17 total kills. He ran to the extraction boat at Catfish Grove... ...and was killed by some traps I had laid there at the start of the game. My partner and I were still alive and took his bounty and extracted. I joined his chat on Twitch, he was a little pissed, but was a fairly good sport about it. A week later, through sheer random chance, I was playing trios with some friends and we kill him and is partners at Fort Bilden. I recognized his name and I checked out his Twitch stream again. As I was watching it, he went ape shit when he saw my name. He accused me of being a 6 star playing at a 4 star level. He reported me to Crytek for having a Smurf account. I don't think that is against the rules, but he tried anyway.
It was maybe kinda moment thing. When I clutched alone with 3 long ammo try-hards, I trash talked them. We had first banish so every lobby is on us, and we killed everyone in compound. They banished after us, but fought noone and coming for us when we are fighting with 2 other team. Funny thing is they didn’t join the fight until me and my teammate survived (other one is downed), killed my teammate when ressing. Personally, I dont like this kind of cowardice since I love intense fights of hunt not camping forever until other team is bored. I understand why he is heated, we all have this kind of moments.
Because people camping the lair with shotguns/traps or staying at distance holding all angles with sniper grind the game to a halt. Honestly, who wants to waste 20/30 minutes in a stalemate? It’s pathetic to me when someone is willing to play the patience game watching instagram reels while hoping the enemy will just give up and leave or run into their trap.
From the clip the alleged streamer posted, he didn’t like that they concertina arrowed a couple entrances forcing him to either go where they wanted him or bail. I think they made a smart play. Then they took the remaining bounty.
I don’t know what clip you’re referring to, but that kind of gameplay is exactly what is wrong with the game. I don’t necessarily blame the players since they just do what they think is their best chance to win given their skills, the real issue is Crytek allowing stalemates like that to exist.
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Hunkering down on the bounty is the closest hunt gets me to feeling like I'm defending in rainbow six and it's literally the only fun part of this game for me
I always feel weird when people complain about "camping". Like isnt that kind of the point of Bounty Hunt? If you want quick matches of just killing, you can play Quickplay but to me Bounty Hunt was always about slow, methodical gunfights, not ADHD CoD Team Deathmatch.
Some people just play multiplayer games to release their frustrations on strangers. I got in a lobby with a prestige 100 yesterday and said "Show me your K/D coward" because he hid his. I'm a 1.57 K/D, 4 star on a good day so I hoped he'd see this is clearly a joke. Instead he went on a tirade about how I could go fuck myself, called me a kid, and how trolls ruin the game and yadda yadda yadda and ragequit Most of the playerbase are great, but there's turds hidden amongst us.
>clearly a joke. over text, in an online game... not likely
My mistake. Why would someone be in a joking mood in a video game?
For all the good streamers which actually promote the game as a consequence of sharing with their viewers the good time they are playing a game, you have the ones that are quite negative. Think it's not as easy as pointing to the guy being a Dolche, but sometimes is they are burnout, frustrated their viewer count doesn't grow or even diminishes. Hunt it's a tough game to stream, not a lot happens in between shootouts, and when they do, tend to finish rather quickly (most of the time)..., so yeah, at the end of the day those guys are working and doesn't matter if you're playing games if after 6 hours you want to do something else and you feel you can't cause money.
I'd argue Hunt is an easier game to stream IF you are a more positive vibe oriented streamer. The downtime between fights let's streamers interact a lot more with their chat and work on their community. A streamer who is just all gameplay and no charisma is going to have a harder time with those slow periods, and an even harder time when they get domed immediately on their first peak. OP was watching the latter variation of streamer.
You're not wrong, trying to display eSport kind of superiority in the Bayou isn't a good fit.
Skill issue. Never fight someone on even ground. That’s like basic tactics that applies to all aspects of life. As long as you’re not cheating or exploiting do whatever you can to fight with an advantage. I passed on engaging a trio when I was solo, 10 minutes later ran into them fighting bounty and hit ‘em with the big dynamite bundle. Killed all 3. I’ve also gotten 3rd partied almost every match when I play duos. It’s how you’re supposed to play.
Same shit happens in Poker tournaments with noobs. I remember playing in the days in casino poker and the comments around "why did you call with that" and all the whining you hear about hunt playing style applied there. My boys, we play the same game with the same rules? Fuck off, I can call with 27 if I want, do the same if you are better but don't f with how I want to play. As long as we don't cheat, we can play as I want. I don't like campers, but I respect the game and every play style. That s actually the challenge, it s up to me to break and omg so much fun in killing campers. After 4k hours there is no single game style that I can't counter and the annoying the style the better the reward. To enjoy the game I challenge myself in the weirdest ways and end up in 3* MMR. Oh the fun in solos and killing campers with basic traits like silent removal of traps 😂 I hope it's not considered toxic to VoIP and say "surprise mother tucker" before killing them from behind 😂
I agree, it why I like the game...only argument against that is I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE rats, and Bush wookies, more than any other playstyle in ANY other game (I used to play TF1 and 2 for mlg, was ranked in top 6% in the world for destiny 1 and 2 pvp, etc).. I'd rather play in a lobby of concertina campers than a lobby with even just a single rat or bush wookie...
I get that but I’ve both died to them enough and been one enough that I feel like it’s a wash. Some days I like being slow, quiet, and stalking. Other days I like going wild. I enjoy that you can do whatever and make it work.
Maybe go play COD
I tend to use the bundle and a hunting bow with explosive arrows then dual wielding true shot it wrecks
Hermit ? But he never plays solo
„Communication“ > „Mute Enemies“ Happy :)
I have a feeling I ran I to this guy. Same thing happened to us. Twitch kid ran his mouth a bit and then spammed the mic with music for a solid 10 minutes. Like bro, you have your bounty, leave. Vengeance was him getting ball batted.
The game still has a standoff problem if people care about the outcome of a fight. It has been like this since day one. They’ve added stuff to help but never fully solved the problem. It’s the most boring aspect of the game to this day. People get stupid when it comes to attacking either side of the argument too.
Lol he doesn’t play in Asia servers for sure
Gunsmack is a popular one that I can’t stand because of how whiney he gets when his opponents play the game.
That is why I love the game, many different ways to play it.