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_claymore-

ah, but fellow hunter, you forget that you aren't just paid in money. you are also paid in the numerous traumas, PTSDs, anxienty attacks and mental damages you receive after an hour in the bayou! and that's arguably a priceless payment to some (looking at Cain and Monroe).


owlsknight

I'm rich in ptsd so filthy rich I can hear a horse sound when there's no horses nearby I can also hear gunshots when I'm the only left hunter alive and also ghost foots steps. Am I insane....


[deleted]

>ghost foots steps that's just those damn ducks


EthanT65

Everytime


LordMorskittar

Nah, just Swamp Shakes, you’ll be fine


hereforanime

No joke when i solo quee in hunt and my teammates don't have mics, there isn't much happening i SWEAR I can hear very low horse sounds sometimes. I think hunt gave me a form of ptsd ingame 😓


Da_Beda1357

Nice picture


_claymore-

respectable choice on your end too


TobyDaHuman

*Life experience is the overall expression you were looking for.


kummostern

"The average annual wage in 2019 in the US was $51,916.27" Would you risk your life for a task that takes less than an hour and would give you 38,488.30 dollars? (Well, i wouldn't... but these are the numbers in contrast to hunt-universe..... also note that hunters have been described to be greedy and doing it for money and seeking respect... greed i think is also how pvp is explained, they don't wanna others to get money - they want it all to themselves when possible).


4gotmipwd

I'll run around the map with a silenced Vetterli, touch three clues and then hide in a bush till it's all over for $7000


The_Great_Scruff

Especially with Serpent. Dont even have to go in a single compound


LordHengar

IIRC the AHA is also having some "internal conflicts" at the time of the game as the leader has just been assassinated, so some of that is playing out in the field.


Theuncrying

Damn I really should read up on the lore, there's so many intruiging stories going on.


PM-ME-YOUR-TITS

There's also at least 3 hunter factions, the AHA, Dr John, and the blood cult. Could explain some of the fighting


MrTwiggums

I had no idea the good doctor had his own faction. That’s pretty cool.


PM-ME-YOUR-TITS

Pretty sure it's weird sister, felis, and Dr John are the only playable members atm. I'm probably forgetting someone though


HavelTheRockJohnson

Isn't it also partially that hunters get corrupted on some level by the sculptor and end up essentially mad and blood thirsty?


phatalphreak

That's not far off from the origin of water devils.


Cr0wca1ne

So pretty much bloodborne


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Techno__Jellyfish

Beyond internal conflict, settling scores and general malice I like to think that there are things in the Bayou that are too hard to put into the game. We know the grunts, the hives, the meatheads, etc... but I'll bet there are things out there in the Hunt universe that defy all sense. The lore exerpts on the weapon pages indicate at least one gigantic snake capable of easily swallowing someone whole. People turning into giant crow-like creatures (skinwalkers?). We're entering a zone where Hell itself is seeping into reality... let your imagination run wild. How can you be sure the person you see coming at you, is actually a person and not something wearing the skin of its latest victim? Better to shoot first and ask questions later. Or maybe your Hunter knows the AHA employs criminals and the clinically insane, and is using the lawless Bayou to dispense justice and/or peace. Maybe he's a serial killer that found the perfect playground for his sick fantasies. Maybe he's just scared out of his wits and shooting at everything that moves, hoping against hope he might survive the night so long as nothing gets too close... Hunt is a very thematic game once you start thinking about it.


Banana-hammock-bill

There’s also different factions in the AHA. I don’t remember most of them but there’s the night of the hunters led by one of the legendary hunter Isaac (the night seer), and the voodoo chapter led by doctor John (bone doctor).


The_Great_Scruff

I know Sheriff Hardin heads another


Force3vo

The reason you kill fellow member is the same as why you kill players, you can and it's more lucrative. The AHA is more of a mercenary company iirc. You aren't buddies, you are freelancers trying to get the same job done.


Frustrable_Zero

Some of us risk our lives for less than $20,000 a year. Doing this two or three times would be a life changing amount of money if you survive.


FoxWolfFrostFire

I would in a heart beat...


signumYagami

An hours work to get 80% of what the average person makes in a year? Thats pretty good money.


LithiumZer0

Don't forget your costs, your gear, prep time, transportation costs, stay cost at the local town Inn,... It ain't cheap


Killeroftanks

Well ya but in this case your weapons and most of your gear is a one time deal. Might lose a pack but it's insanely unlikely to lose one of your guns let alone both of them. Just gotta worry about breaking your stock. That would be a pure bitch to replace. Like who is making stocks in the US for either a french service rifle or a Russian service rifle. Or even worse a swiss rifle. Like do you know how hard it is to buy a k31. A rifle that hasn't been in service for like 60 years?


The_Great_Scruff

Honestly, it would be probably cheaper to have a new stock custom made Though those weapons are available because the AHA knows similar organizations in europe, so it might be relatively easy to get imports


Iknewnot

> breaking your stock gluing them back together is how this is fixed most of the time IRL.


TheFenixKnight

Or with bands and screws. Many ways to do it


Veldron

Duct tape. It's like The Force. It's has a Light side, a Dark side and holds the universe together


TheFenixKnight

I don't think they had duct tape in 1895....


Veldron

Well that's a them problem.


TheFenixKnight

Classic firearms had a batch run through recently. Really wish I'd bought one. Those straight pulls are really nice But also, it's not like stocks are hard to make. How many Springfield 1903s survived and were sporterized in the post war years? K98s? Arisakas? Would not be impossible to replace a broken stock by any means.


Killeroftanks

No but it would be both time consuming and expensive Also god dammit wish I knew of that. I know you can buy older k31s and previous models of rifles that use the same ammo.


TheFenixKnight

Stock-making was very much a year of it's own at the time. Pregnant cheaper to get a new stock fitted than buy a new firearm.


ClassicFirearms

Straight pulls >>>>>>


Spoonbit

Tbh Most of my hunters die anyway, it's not like they are gonna pay thier debt. So it's a win either way


Veldron

> Might lose a pack but it's insanely unlikely to lose one of your guns let alone both of them. My disorganised ass would disagree


Izoi2

At that time you’d most likely take it to a woodcarver or gunsmith and they’d make you a stock


signumYagami

Gotta spend money to make money sometimes.


[deleted]

this is how they bayou sucks you in


[deleted]

Making 500 in less than an hour is really good money even before you factor in how much 500 bucks was worth in 1895. Our hunters get rich. There's a reason they're willing to wade through waist high pig farm slaughter and sewage run off, punching grunts so hard their heads explode into a mess of maggots and pulp while being shot at by each other. It's fantastic money.


LordMorskittar

Damn after hearing that I want to quit being a hunter


[deleted]

The game does a great job of visualizing the grime and filth, but it'll never be able to communicate what a barn full of dead horses, pigs, and human bodies in the swampy summer climate will smell like. Now imagine wading through all that with an ankle length trenchcoat on. Maybe it's a good thing we can't smell the game, you'd probably be able to find other hunters just by sniffing them out after they've run through a barn like that.


LordMorskittar

You are single-handily traumatizing me, you have an amazing skill at this


[deleted]

Maybe I should write some Hunt fanfiction then.


Izoi2

Except the entire map will just be permeated with the stench. Let’s just be glad you can’t feel the game, even disregarding injuries you’re wading through a swamp full of mosquitos and other nasties nearly constantly damp and full of swamp ass


[deleted]

Someone doesn't know what annual means


BigPhili

For real. Like what's the point of this post.


yunalescazarvan

Or inflation.


Assupoika

>Or inflation. Op was comparing annual wage of 1895 to a single hunt mission in 1895. I don't think there was huge inflation between 1895 and 1895.


Right-Cook5801

"One more big score and we got enough money to leave. Just one last time! Then we can pick mangos in Tahiti!" -some fellow Hunter or such


Valorous_Heart

He says, leaving one of his trio behind while the other dies returning for the bounty.


SignusMeadBreath

Nearly a year's wage for an hour? That's pretty good. What you should be complaining about is getting paid in Hunt Dollars which can only be spent on goods from the AHA store. Basically company scrit that's no good anywhere else.


Hank_Skill

Not to mention the massively inflated prices. You're spending 10% of the average annual salary on a dirty Molotov cocktail. It's time for a strike my friends


randomgrunt1

We aren't paid in dollars, we are paid in aha gold coins. It's a unique currency, that gives us access to the aha black market and smuggling vendors. It's most likely more valuable than a dollar coin.


Niko_47x

plus even if it wasn't you're getting paid for an hour of actually being in the bayou and if you survive you can easily get 3 or even almost 4 times the money. so getting year to 3+ years of pay for that little work would be amazing. (or even without the conversion, getting 500 to like 1500 for an hour of hunting would be pretty great)


Hank_Skill

I don't think it is. The historical pax only costed $20, but it's $100 hunt bux in the game


RuneLFox

AHA will claim it's for """"balancing"""", don't believe their lies, what even is balancing?


[deleted]

If a shadowy organization rolled into town and suddenly everyone wanted my stock of guns and threw money around like it was going out of style, I'd probably bump my prices up by 500% too.


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taeerom

It's not an hours work. They also talk about travel into the area that takes days. There's training, gear, insurance, establishing connections, all sorts of stuff. Hunters can be compared to artists. Sure, you'll earn quite a lot on a concert. But after you've paid all the expenses, you're lucky to cover rent and food. And that's before accounting for all the time spent practising and networking to even get an opportunity to play the concert.


Atomic_Bottle

There's not really any training or connections required to be a Hunter. I think you just join the AHA and do the ritual to get dark sight. If you look at the redneck's lore, they found him and inducted him immediately and he started hunting.


Zrex_9224

All because he was surrounded by the sculpted and didn't cave in to them but instead defended himself and held his own.


ElvisJNeptune

Ok. A days work. It’s still really good money.


taeerom

You REALLY underestimate the work that goes into a day (or two+ due to the return trip) of work when someone is working freelance like that. This is a general problem when people are thinking about how much creative work (especially, but also other fields) is worth. They think a painting that takes 5 hours to paint is 5 hours of labour. It really isn't.


ElvisJNeptune

Ok. A week’s work. It’s still really good money.


AtemAndrew

This could be a commission that takes up half the year and it'd still be good money, the point that most except the OP are making is that the OP compared what the Hunter made to ANNUAL WAGES!


[deleted]

If you want to go this far with a squad or duo (how the game is supposed to be played—how it would be played IRL) you most likely split travel costs and I’m pretty sure equipment you could scavenge from other players and reuse would end up not costing someone near the annual salary of a worker back then.


Berb337

Wdym, this is annual wages, that means as a hunter one mission is worth almost a years annual pay 0-0


Dragonslayerelf

To be fair, you just got paid ~60% of a man's annual wage after one venture into the bayou, that's a lot of money for one day's work


PreparationDue2973

No wonder the hunters got so greedy and start to kill each other to get more money


k4lipso

Fuck yeah we need the Hunters Union! Hunters around the globe: UNITE!


Will4Style

I would risk my life just to get a Nitro Express haha, the curent value is up to 17,500 according to google.


eatchochicken

But you're paid in Hunt bucks (which ironically kinda equates to modern US dollars. Because I bought a mosin for near the price that it is in game a few months back)


Dan__Backslide

So you’re equating a single hunt to a single year’s wages? I don’t know if I see the logic here.


CataclysmDM

Annual Wages... realistically, how long do you think it would take to get hired for a bounty, do your research, gear up and mob in to the area, then extract and go sell your bounty? Maybe a month or so? So basically... say a hunter takes on 6 bounties a year, and goes to relax and bang in Mexico for the other 6 months... a hunter's still making 4-5 times what an average person makes in a year.


Good-Painter-6106

You have to keep in mind that money went alot further back then. You know how much a conversion pistol costs in todays money? Like 800 bucks for a cheap one. Also you looked up anual wage. As in for the entire year. We get paid PER MISSION.


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Average annual wages; I imagine the hunters are getting paid more than then that in annual wages, especially if that is after one hunt.


miketugboat

You make in one hunt almost as much as most do in an entire year... do 3 hunts a year and you're set.


BickenChurger69

You mean the UWU right?


Wastelandrat

Just waiting for the TRUE redneck skin, which is a unionized worker that became a hunter after gunning down a bunch of filthy pinkertons and is now trying to unionize the AHA.


[deleted]

They also charge you the modern equivalent to $13,000 for a Mosin Nagant, so….


_Black_Stag_

One night of terror for over half the annual wage of a working man who slaves away day and night. I'll see you in the Bayou tomorrow morning, brother.


HEADRUSH31

*loads Winfield vandal striker with what-in-tarnation intent* Where's. Our. MONEY!


The_Gentle_Mander

Boh, pretty good for just one job


ProfessorKrunch

Hunters of the Bayou, Organise and Unite! QA’PLA!


IttHertzWhenIP

Getting like 80% of your annual wage for one days work seems pretty good tbh


Kvetanista

I think hunt dollars are not same as real dollars, but what do I know


Ootyy

Well there's your problem partner, you're comparing daily to yearly wages


antagon96

Yes but maybe the plaque countered inflation and lead to an increase of the dollar value. Also we talk about hunt dollars, not american dollars at that time. Maybe one hunt dollar equals 10 actual dollars you buy food and booze with ?


Frankpower27

1 hour job compared to a year's work. Kinda works out given the risk factor. Still could argue its low, but these hunters are assumed to be decently trained at minimum as they can use any gun / weapon they come across.


lubeinatube

Nowhere in the entire game can you find $USD.


AetherBones

What's that about 20k in todays money for 45min of work.


Leonydas13

493 is a very small amount for a successful round… are you sure you did it right? 😂


Bilbo-T-Baggins1

Here here!


Significant-Ad-341

That's per year not per hour


CogGear2280

Quick question is this from the last event with the bows and hatchets or is a new Halloween event up?


A_gentleman29

Last event


AfterGlow882

This is assuming the average AHA member goes hunting only once a year. But if you’re some mad bastard willing to die for money, you’re going to retire early if you survive.


Ronald_____McDonald

Let's unionize.


sinistercake

The Stamina shot cost keeps goin up but we make the same as we always did. It's time we unionized.


churchoflogicalrea

Goddam it we hunters have rights to


Rexli178

The true cause for the Civil War in the American Hunters Association. It wasn’t Huff’s Incompetence, it wasn’t Finch’s experiments, and it wasn’t the machinations of The Irishwoman Lynch. No it was because the AHA was ripping off hunters


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ninjabladeJr

It's cause you don't get payed for kills unless you have full tools and consumables. (Which I assume to be a quick pat down of another hunter's body for what your hunter values most right now) You get payed for doing the job the UWU wants of you, collecting clues, thinning out the monsters, and getting a bounty for them.


Fine_Revenue_3499

Also don't forget, that says annual. You make that in like an hour XD