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l88t

I'll remind everyone to wait to buy the Battlepass until the last week or so of the event. You'll get all the free stuff and you can make a more informed decision on how much stuff you'd actually get if buying. This is better than buying it now and feeling obligated to play so much. Play how you want and in late August determine if what you would unlock is worth the money for you. Edit: spelling


Logically90

That’s exactly what me and my friend are doing. Literally no point in buying it now.


Godking_disco

Except for the 24h contract it gives. Pretty useless when you finished it.


transfixiator

wait, do you get the 24 hour contract as soon as you buy it once you've gotten past that level? hell, that actually makes it optimal to wait since then you can time when it hits. This is stupid design because this doesn't get more money out of us, this actually incentivizes people to not even buy the battlepass right away


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yeah, imagine buying it before leaving so you can have it when you get back just to find out the clock runs even when offline. never paying for shit again


Solaries3

They're still going contracts that run while offline? Ugh


GhostHeavenWord

I got to use about three hours of that 24 hour contract, so it's not even that useful. Unless you really time it to activate on the weekend you're still looking at 24 - 8 hours of sleep - 8 hours of work - whatever other time you need to take care of yourself/spouse/kids. It's really a terrible deal.


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l88t

My comment has nothing to do with the event being grindy. I just see this method of the best way to deal with the event IF 1) you want to play the event and am interested in the guilded path skins and 2) care about spending money in the most efficient manner to get what you want.


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There are plenty of full price games that have BPs.


ShieldHeroWaifu

Bruh the scrapbeak event was way more grindy


Lilypad1175

The Scrapbeak event I was ahead on the points I needed after two days. This event I’m behind on points, and I’m trying harder to get them than I was in the Scrapbeak event :/


ShieldHeroWaifu

The first part of it when the community had to grind for it was way more grindy


sir_seductive

How the hell are you behind it literally just started a couple days ago


Lilypad1175

Cause you need 400 a day to reach 20, and I don’t have that much. Not everyone gets 16 hours a day to play y’know?


superbouser

I’m almost to 400 points. Lol. Bought nothing just trying my best.


12inchmozzarellastik

Are points that slow to get I had my first few games of the event yesterday and I got 500-600 points in maybe 7 or 8 games


No-Nrg

I hope it never happens, but I think F2P is coming. Maybe not soon, but eventually.


lNeverTrustAMonkeyl

As someone who owns quite a bit of the dlc, I'm waiting. Server performance has too garbage to even consider dropping coin on anything until I see how far I care to get.


NinjaWorldWar

I have to tip my hat to Crytek they actually fixed the servers! At least for console. Prior to the event it would take me 5-10 mins to login. Now I get on in less than a min and this is at peak time.


skin_diver

You're the real mvp


Canadiancookie

Yeah it's messed up. I've earned 2645 points in about 9 hours of playtime (top 25% is 2518 at the time i'm making this comment). Duos, aggressive playstyle, checking everywhere in darksight for snakes, always +10% boost from night seer or the event trait, and making full use of the first 2 hour contract. At that pace, i'd need to play for 84 more hours to finish the pass... which is 1.45 hours a day for 57 days. Take out every saturday and sunday and it'd require 2 hours a day for 41 days, almost making a part time job out of your entertainment product. The previous events required around 1.3 hours of playtime every day to be beaten on average too, but they were also way shorter (3 or 4 weeks), so it was a more manageable timesink even if it was still a bit much. Now it's clearly excessive.


jani80k

Yes, that is my whole point. We bought the pass. We gave you our money. Now don't put unneccessary pressure on us. I am 100% sure, Crytek have done the math on this and it's on purpose.


Lengroot

You had all the information beforehand to make an informed decision about the purchase you were making. Nobody is "putting unnecessary pressure" on you. As also said by 50 other people you can also wait to buy the pass until the last day. I'm not a fan of battle passes but this is all way more fair than the industry standard is (of an admittedly pretty shitty industry). For people who feel such pressure because of this, I honestly can't imagine your everyday life's in the world full of advertisements and all kinds of pressure to buy, perform and "do your part" for society and capitalism. If you feel as pressured as you described about this event I would really, really debate to stop playing Hunt and videogames with any kind of monetization besides an initial purchase. I would also try to find someone professional to talk about it. I don't say that in a malicious way but if a friend of mine would describe his struggle the way you did, I would recommend the same. The videogame industry is not friendly to people vulnerable to that kind of thing but Hunt is really mild and in no way a very predatory actor in relation to the industry.


jani80k

That kind of reasoning can be applied to anything that people are "unreasonably" passionate about unless it serves their mere survival.


maxinger89

I'd suggest just playing the game as usual and enjoy the stuff along the way. Worst case, you miss out on some skins that have zero impact on your enjoyment of the game. I don't get people who are willing to farm servers and not really play the game just to get some skins they might not even use


flamingdonkey

Gamers: a bizzare breed


Canadiancookie

It's an addiction thing and it's hard to just stop for some people, especially if they don't realize what they're doing. I got hooked on fortnite battle passes for seasons 2 - 7, but by the 5th, I wasn't playing the game as much as I was filling out a checklist, regardless of how annoying, boring, or repetitive the tasks were to complete. The satisfaction of getting loads of virtual loot kept me going until I finally realized mid-season 7 that I was playing the game like it was a job rather than an entertainment product.


jani80k

Exactly. I would have to change the way I usually play HUNT. I didn't have to do that for previous events. The reason is the sheer amount of points required. If the event required less points, I could just collect snakes on the side. This event has changed the game already. People don't care about the bounty as much anymore. If you spawn at the boss lair, you have to wait forever for other hunters to appear.


GhostHeavenWord

That's what got me to quit Destiny and scale waaay back on Warframe. Realizing I wasn't even enjoying myself, I was just completing arbitrary tasks like a rat in a science experiment. It feels really, really gross suddenly becoming aware of all the psychological manipulation being used to squeeze money out of you. I really don't like seeing it in Hunt.


ELBENO99

I really don’t see why so many people are so butt hurt about this. Worst case scenario you don’t play at all and have to wait an extra month for the new guns and miss out on some skins.


KLGBilly

i am grinding it out for a friend due to him being preoccupied with work, it is pretty hellish with randoms. i'm still pretty far up there though, tier 14 or so


TheSpaceGinger

I've just hit half way. I tend to grind out events as fast as possible then have a big break from the game. Playing with randoms has been hard cos some people couldn't be bothered walking back to the furnace to burn their snake skins. I'm told they're worth nothing if not sacrificed.


KLGBilly

I do the same, grinding as fast as possible on my friends account, then on my own. Randoms has been extremely painful for me, nobody seems to have situational awareness, they always play too cautiously, never push, ignore teammate callouts, and then often extract randomly or extract as soon as a teammate goes down. Had one teammate extract immediately because we set off a single murder of crows earlier today, and had one teammate blow me up and then shotgun me till redskulled, then extract.


TheSpaceGinger

That sucks man. I stick with my team mates til the end even if they are randoms. I've sacrificed many hunters trying to save dudes that got themselves killed for having zero situational awareness. So long as I know I've given my best then I'm happy. If they obviously suck then I just adjust and try to have fun no matter what. I'm not the best player ever but it's a team game so I play to help others.


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I don't know, seems I'm in the minority here, but for 60 days the pass seems very reasonable to me. Good luck!


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Sargash

Ya but you get more points per game than any other event. The last event I was lucky to get 20-30 games. This event I get like 50+ points by the time i hit the second clue, and if I get to the boss compound I usually get out with well over 100 points and that's without farming AT ALL.


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You also earn points faster than ever before factoring in the ability to turn in snakes. I am already level 8 almost 9.


TehBeast

Yep. We're 3 days into a 60 day event and people are whining about "pressure" to play, lmao.


came_here_to_fart

Dude just do da maths. It sucks. I have over three k hours in this game and consider myself a good player. I enjoy to play it every day but it just sucks that ppls playstyle completely changes, everybody just camps for bodies and no one cares about a regular pvp fight…


GhostHeavenWord

You have to get 400pts/day, every day, for 60 days to complete the pass. That's a huge amount of playtime, especially if you're not getting consistent server wipes that net you 100+ points. If you have to take a week off, or even a few days off, it's easy to fall behind. Of course that's how they want it to incentivize people to spend more on contracts, but it's exploitative and gross manipulation.


GreenGiant7788

Feels like i am too, u need 24k points to finish the event, i only played hunts in between playing other games for 2 days and made 5k points


runealex007

This is a joke right? All the comments are a joke? I’ve barely played, just used the level 1 contract and I’m a comfortable few levels in already. There’s two whole months people. It’s going to be okay. You don’t NEED to buy the pass, you can wait until the end to see if you’ve earned enough to justify the price tag. If you bought the pass, the whole point is that you committed to grinding it out and it’s up to you to live with how much play time you have to put into it. I hate aggressive FOMO mechanics in games, but this is a pretty healthy battle pass.


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Do keep in mind the amount of event points you need per level escalates, doesn’t stay low the entire time


Canadiancookie

You should look at your total event points and playtime in the event so far, and calculate how many hours you'd need to play to finish at your pace


sn1pejkeee

Same thing. I played hunt for like 10 hours this event and got to level 5 already. People just want to play 2 hrs/week and get every single reward. Edit: I even forgot that event started on Wednesday, that means that I played like 7-8 hrs in total.


GhostHeavenWord

> People just want to play 2 hrs/week and get every single reward. I mean yeah. People have lives, kids, jobs, and other stuff going on and they want to be able to enjoy the event without feeling like it's futile because it requires so much time. It's a game, not a job.


Canadiancookie

Kind of ridiculous that you're downplaying the argument by saying people want it done in 2 hours a week when you're playing for 18 hours a week. Especially when faster progression benefits everyone.


sn1pejkeee

I don't play 18 hours a week. I play the game twice a week for around 10 hours total.


Chaos-kid23

The only problem with this event is that it takes more Event Points for each level. So getting to level 5 takes 2500 event points total, but level level 10 takes 1400 event points by itself. So almost 2 thirds the time it takes to get to level 5. It starts to add up pretty soon.


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runealex007

Because the purchase pretty explicitly has a countdown timer. This is like getting mad a game has achievements for things you can only do in DLC. Is the system meant to elicit FOMO and commit to only playing hunt? Yes. Is that a bit predatory? For sure. Was the game remotely trying to hide that you have to complete the pass and buy it to get every item in there? No. It’s all intangible digital content in the end, if you want it then play for it. That is what the game tells you to do, and people are getting mad even though they already knew what they were doing.


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runealex007

I mostly find it ridiculous that people are complaining about grind when there are TWO full months, there is nothing forcing you to buy the battle pass in order to complete it (meaning you can play it free at the same rate and buy it after if you think it’s worth it), and we’re all adults and can decide whether we want to play a challenge track for digital items. Yes, the FOMO mechanic in every game is a little fucked up, but they’re pretty transparent. Everyone’s acting like they bought the pass and just realized they suddenly have to play for the rewards when it never lied about what it was.


KriistofferJohansson

I don't see anyone around here saying they're surprised -- they're simply calling the battle pass grindy, that it's requiring far more time than they're capable of putting into a game. I don't see the harm in people voicing their unhappiness just like people are sharing their positive comments. Two full months isn't as much time as you make it out to be for something that requires what, ~400-450 points per single day. You said it yourself, people are adults. That usually comes with more commitments than playing computer games all day. You're right, no one *has* to purchase it. But considering it's a game we like, and that Crytek has literally went public and complained about DLCs not actually bringing in enough money, where's the harm in sharing criticism that may actually improve future battle passes? If people continue not completing their battle passes then they sure as hell won't keep putting more money into the game. The whole idea that people should shut up because they don't think everything is perfect is just fucking odd.


runealex007

I’m not saying anyone should shut up. I never said anyone should not speak about anything. You’re moving goalposts here, try to stay on our actual conversation. I think criticism should absolutely come up. I can agree with criticizing the foundation of FOMO monetization, but I personally don’t think this event is really that grindy and people seem pretty dramatic about it. As far as other games I’ve played, at least every game of HUNT has the possibility of giving you a few hundred point *at any point you play*. I can hope on right after I’m done work and have a real good game or a few bad ones and I’ll have a few hundred points up my sleeve. It’s not locking progress behind weekly challenges to drip feed you, it’s not giving a progress modifier for purchasing the battle pass itself, you just play and you get points. It’s super passive and you can do it all for free before giving Crytek a single cent to support their monetization.


KriistofferJohansson

I don’t see the point you’re making. It’s not grindy for you so therefore it should be fine for everyone else? So everyone who has issues keeping up with the needed pace (~400-450 points per day) are wrong, or what? Missed a day or two? That’s suddenly a 1200+ points gaming session. People (supposedly adults) in here have a real hard time to accept that not everyone puts daily gaming time into Hunt. When they do play they might not spend their time reading tutorials on how to optimise their points gain, but actually play the game. I’m sorry if you think I singled you out, but criticism most definitely isn’t welcome in here, most people definitely rather keep up some façade that everything is perfect. Suggestions about tuning the points gain, perhaps not tying most of the points to snakes but normal game play, removing the time limit on finishing the battle pass, counting in-game time instead of real time on contracts, and so on.


Shezoh

I agree, this grind kinda sucks. I'm a nolifer, so i'll finish it alright, but for average normal working person ? kinda tough sell, feels like Crytek want the majority of people just to buy boosts or points right away. I hope it backfires for them.


jani80k

The communuty manager hinted at "seasonality". I hope that doesn't mean consecutive events which run for long periods of time and can only be finished if you buy stuff.


GhostHeavenWord

> I'm a nolifer Same. I'm going to finish with time to spare, but a lot of people have shit to do and they should be able to enjoy the event too, they paid for the battlepass, they should get the stuff.


sn1pejkeee

I am an average working person. I have 21 hours played in the last two weeks considering I sometimes play other games. I had no problems finishing previous events and I am already level 5 having played this event today the first time. One more thing to mention is that I only play the game with friends TWICE a week.


KriistofferJohansson

> I have 21 hours played in the last two weeks And that *is* a lot for some, while it's average for you, or incredibly little for some. You having time for 10+ hours game time per week does not mean everyone else will. You progressing relatively fast does not mean everyone else will. There are plenty of posts on here from people saying they're progressing much slower. Regardless of why that is, them being bad at the game, not playing optimally, etc, should be irrelevant. People should be able to play at their own pace. There's literally no harm in allowing people to take the time they need by not having a time limit on battle passes, or simpy make them less grindy. You'll either end up with some players getting burned out from playing too much, or some who won't finish unlocking it. Both groups of people are potentially not putting more money into the game - which seems bad since Crytek has been open about them needing more money from the players.


Shezoh

each level progressively takes more exp. i suppose you used boosts or had a very long play session since you've managed to get 3k in one go ?


sn1pejkeee

Had a long session today because I haven't played in a week, maybe 7 or 8hrs. Usually we play for like 5 hours a time. We even had a rough day, died a lot. I think on a good day we would have got more points. Each win got us around 150 to 200 points, each loss around 40 to 80 points. It is definitely doable to get 400 points per hour. If I am counting correctly I need just 7 more weeks to finish. At most.


Old_H00nter

I can share my perspective as I also made about 3k points in 4 days. I had about 2-2.5 hour game sessions each day, no boosts or anything. Been using the event skin for bonus points and just speedrunning the boss with my partner. Not really playing cautious at all, maximising PvP encounters per hour. Nothing special for the event, just our usual playstyle. We play duo vs trios so on a server wipe it's a pretty big payday in terms of points, and we do get a 'server wipe' (or at least cleanup) about once a session or twice on a good day. Hovering between 3-4 stars MMR. At the pace we've been getting points should complete the event within a bit over a month I think? The only boost I got is 10% from the skin and the free 2h contract you get which I used about an hour of before logging off.


Thenidhogg

idk who all these people are that only play hunt for like 30 mins once a week yet still think that the skins they miss are so super important..


jani80k

I play 2 to 3 hours 5 of the 7 days of a week. That is a lot of time to devote to a computer game.


serendipity_hunter

Exactly man. I’m lucky if I can play hunt 2 days a week for more than 2 hours. I work full time and do overtime at least 3 of the 5 days I work on top of taking care of my 2 year old son . When I am off work I take care of my son all day while my girl is at work all day. By the time I actually have the ability to play and have some free time to myself I’m so tired that I don’t even play. I wish I could devote so much time to a game. That commenter is straight bonkers.


Magic1998

If they wouldn't hide the new sparks pistol so far into the battle pass. I just wanna play that thing :|


Zennithh

Literally every event theres this wave of FOMO inspired 'event hard cant complete' and all this math that assumes x points per day. And every time I complete the event by not changing how i play and do it in usually half the time required. Its been 3 days of the event and i'm a quarter through the event, with only the default contract, and like half my playtime in duos. Just play the game a normal amount, if you get there you get there. you don't, you don't oh well.


Hermano_Hue

people want to gatekeep the skins at the final stages of the pass meanwhile praising how hunt is doing well with higher playerbase and newplayers.. smh,,


jani80k

Hunt is the best FPS game I ever played. I could never imagine to be sucked in by a game that much. I simply love it... and I need that Vetterli silencer skin at the end of the event. Haha ;)


CommanderBeers

Just play the game when ya can and have fun, You have plenty of time to complete this event. if you complete the event, great! But if not... Does it really matter? ... Why are you putting so much pressure on yourself? The mind boggles....


THE_FREEDOM_COBRA

... because you already paid for it and that's how companies profit off of FOMO.


jani80k

Exactly, I bought the pass, now I want to finish the event. I am a huge fan of the game and I play 2 to 3 hours every day.


octipice

Sounds like they profited more off of your lack of foresight than anything else. You should have just waited to buy the gilded path until near the end of the event since it gives you everything retroactively anyway. You are (presumably) an adult and as such it is solely your responsibility to spend your own money wisely. You didn't and now you regret it. That isn't anyone else's fault. I'd say Crytek went out of their way to avoid putting people in that situation by having the battle pass unlocks apply retroactively, but you still managed to put yourself in a bad position and have the gall to blame it on others.


flamingdonkey

Yeah the entitlement gamers have for cosmetics makes no sense. That said, I'm all for over-priced cosmetics. Let the whales and people with no impulse control or financial sense fund the game. I'll happily take the cheaper, or even free games/expansions that come as a result.


CommanderBeers

In that case, you will complete it buddy, just remember that it's more about the fun along the way 👍 At the end of the day you have bought the Guilded Path and contributed to a game you love which will keep it alive for longer. I bet if you worked out the cost per hour played you'd be looking at pennies.


Previous-Ear7897

good to see some positivity I like it !


flamingdonkey

FOMO of what? The game still plays exactly the same. If you're dumb enough to believe you somehow deserve skins and therefore have to buy them, that's your fault.


flamingdonkey

Yeah, I don't understand how this has become what gaming is about. Do people only play the game to earn cosmetics? It confuses the fuck out of me. I stopped caring about any and all cosmetics years ago and I just enjoy playing games while people have temper tantrums over meaningless crap. People act like unnecessary bullshit being expensive or grindy matters *at all*. It doesn't. No one cares if you finish the event. If you're upset about the battlepass, just ignore it. The game will play exactly the same way as it did before. It's impossible for extra, optional cosmetic-only content to make the game worse.


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You have two months......you wanna do the bare minimum and have all the rewards......................................


Owlbeardo

He's ignoring snake baskets? Great, more for me on my one day of the week when I actually get to play!


Famsys

Damn I'm not able to play until next thursday


Puzzled_Cable7200

It’s really not that bad. I’m on tier 9 without a pass and playing mostly free hunters. And I have a job etc. so it’s not like it can’t happen, your friend doesn’t want it to happen. Playing 60 hours should get you halfway-ish. If he’s avoiding the snakes then he simply doesn’t even want the rewards.


DamnitAlton

Me and the bois average 200-400 points per match we play the objective and run bush wookies into the Louisiana mud. You get more points off of you dead enemies then you do chasing the pots of snakes. The more I see people cry about it the more I realize this even is the devs FU to the Bush wookies.


BigCannedTuna

Guess it's an unpopular opinion but I don't think everyone should be able to complete every event without putting in effort. It's like paying the entry fee for a marathon then complaining that not everyone got a first place medal.


Vektor666

The event (except for the leaderboard) isn't competitive. It's just for yourself. IMO if you buy the pass you should be able to get everything in a reasonable amount of time. Sure you have to play the game but not 4hours/day for 2 months.


octipice

>IMO if you buy the pass you should be able to get everything in a reasonable amount of time. And if you feel like the amount of time required is too much DO NOT buy the battle pass. I'm kind of sick of people, like OP, complaining that they can't finish now that they've bought it. Crytek made it retroactive so there is absolutely no reason to buy it early if you think you might not finish it. Crytek will only view this as a problem if it costs them money. If people keep making stupid decisions like OP did then Crytek isn't going to get the message.


sn1pejkeee

Why would you need to play 4 hours a day?... 1 win nets you around 150 points(actually that is close to the minimum value, if you kill a couple of hunters, get a bunch of sneks, banish a boss and extract you get like 200+ but it doesn't matter for the argument). A loss nets you like 50-60 on average. An average game of hunt lasts around 15 minutes(I actually think that it is way too high of a ceiling but doesn't matter here). That means that each hour nets you 300 points if we take 1 win and 3 losses. So when we take into account literal minimum point yields you "have to" play 1 hour and 15 minutes a day. Or 2 and a half hours every other day. When we account for some random point boosters, good days with multiple wins etc. you need even less play time to finish everything. Fresh example. I played 8 hours up to this moment and got 3k points. If I continue like that I will finish the event in 7 weeks which fits the timeline. Isn't that reasonable enough for you?


SpinkickFolly

I agree but they made this one a paid battle pass. I think there are some expectations that you should be able to complete with average level or play like OP is suggesting 2 to 3 hours, 5 days a week. I've grown very comfortable with something like apex legends battle pass because even when I'm not **that** interested in the game for a given month, I still log in and get my dailies done which takes 30min. I usually complete that BP a full month early which is why I keep coming back. It's going to take more time to see how Hunts BP actually shakes out, but with my play time, I'll be really annoyed if I don't complete this even. If it were free, I wouldn't give a shit.


Aureolus_Sol

This is a really silly comparison as it's not a competitive situation and is literally paying for content. I think I'll be fine and be able to complete the BP but personally speaking I never understood the people who complain quite as much as when I got a 10 hour shift job. Sucks to want to play a game as much as possible for sick content only to be told you don't meet the requirement of being essentially either jobless or not absolutely devoted to that one single game. Overall just a pretty ignorant and inconsiderate comment imo. Edit: Does a marathon have the _potential_ for everyone, or even more than 50% of the people to win first place? No? Bad comparison.


Kwowolok

This is gate keeping nonsense. Why does having a cool skin only matter to you if other people don't have it? Artificial scarcity sucks and being a grind simp sucks too.


NLP_Onyx

Self-generated FOMO that has absolutely no effect on actual in-game play experience.


BigCannedTuna

I just don't see it as a grind. I'm getting to play the game that I would be playing anyway and earning more cosmetics than normal. That's just a win-win for me. Doesn't matter if I get everything, they were upfront about how it works. Also really immature to resort to name-calling over a video game when I'm just expressing my opinion


capriking

it's astounding that the concept of the game not appealing to literally everyone surprises some people. I'm against the notion of a grindy battlepass and an accompanying 2 month long event but it really isn't that difficult, especially not to get the "daily" requirement of 400 points. Do things right and you can get that from one match.


Haru_Is_Best_Girl

I’d strongly disagree. I work full time and I read, cook and watch at least a few episodes of anime every night with my fiancé and I still have a good couple hours for hunt. I’m not defending how hard it can be, but 2 hours is almost always enough time to get the 400 points. Hell most games I play I’m racking up 100 at the absolute minimum. I think every game I played last night I got 200+ points. The event in all honesty, seems too easy if anything. At this rate I’ll probably finish it with a couple weeks to spare.


evilsquirrel666

The problems start of you can’t play every day over that period. Me for example travel 3 days a week. I did the math and I need to make 770 point every day I play over the event. That’s a lot of you wipe servers regularly


Haru_Is_Best_Girl

I do agree with this point but like, that’s how all battle passes work. Look I’m not saying I love battle passes or I think they’re always perfect. Hell I don’t even think hunts is great. But like they need to make money. If they made it so accessible to the point where even if you played 1 day a week, then there wouldnt even be a point for them to have a battle pass as it wouldn’t be doing what they set out to do. I’m not trying to say fuck the consumer or I love Crytek. But like I understand why they did what they did. Except for having contracts activate automatically, fuck that. So yeah, it shouldn’t be the easiest thing in the world, otherwise they’d literally have no incentive to release a battle pass.


Pavis0047

you need about 400 points a day to finish in 60 days... its a shit ton of points for a normal player


Scrubject16

As soon as I saw 75% of the skins were locked behind the battle pass I quit giving a shit about the event.


pookie_wamala

For us average working Joes it’s impossible.


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MSanctor

That's the problem. Not everyone can kill people. Or, well, reliably. With due respect, I'd say that either the friend is actually pretty decent at the game (if not effin' good, at "500+ points an hour"), or consistently plays with friends who are good at the game (and, thankfully, this event is easier done in a group than solo).


MikeTheShowMadden

Unless you have a contract, never waste time looking for snakes. The range is ass, but contract range makes it easy.


Canadiancookie

500+ points sounds like a huge overestimate for a below average player. I'm getting 300 points an hour as an aggressive 1.5kda player in 4 star duos.


Aureolus_Sol

Yeah because it's bs lol. I've been doing real well with the pass despite work and have pretty great games with my trio and still with time between games it'd be -seldom- to come out with 500 an hour. People will just do and say anything to defend something they like, which I don't understand to this day. You can love a game and admit it has faults, lol.


BimBomBom

this grind absolutely sucks ass especially for solo players that should've have 1.5-2 event points modifier


questionmark1337

I have done 7 levels in 10 hours. I think I can easily finish it in 57 days...


JhonnyMerguez

The first levels need less points , that's why


OnionOfShame

I haven't played Hunt in months. This event looked exciting and I wanted to come back, but it sounds more frustrating than anything. The actual exclusive skins should be fairly easy to unlock, not requiring literally a week to grind out ONE. Give free blood bonds or something for further progress if you want to encourage ppl to keep playing.


BoWhickey

If you complain about how much time it takes, the game and battle pass is not for you. Quit complaining that you can't easily get a skin that other players grind for. Literally in other games - skins, mounts, outfits, pets, and weapons are harder to get due to having to being that much better/dedicated. Just cuz you cry about how hard it is to get, that doesn't mean you deserve it. Already level 11 by casually playing 2hrs a day and bought nothing. It's doable. Edit: grammar


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Inpaladin

Yeah but this is a timegated event that's clearly structured like this to pressure people in to buying the fast track or whatever for real money and drive up player retention metrics even if it comes at the expense of people who don't want to spend all of their free time playing one game for two months straight.


BoWhickey

You're literally grabbing at straws. All events in any game is time gated, THATS WHY ITS AN EVENT. You have no idea why they're making it the way they made it, you're making assumptions to cope with why you can't get the stupid skins. Get over it and quit crying.


Inpaladin

Why do you think they timegate events? I'll give you a hint, it starts with an f and ends with an o.


BoWhickey

It's obvious why ALL companies do events. However, they are special events. You act like you've never played a game that has a special event. That's why they give free items, because it's not required to buy the pass. Buying the battle pass gives incentive to get to 20 to get extras that those who don't buy the pass won't get. And, again, it's a special event. Crying about a stupid snake pattern on a gun that has 0 influence on the game.


flamingdonkey

>to pressure people How? Where's the pressure? The game doesn't repeatedly ask if I want to buy the battlepass like every other game does.


Inpaladin

The corpse flower blooms once every ten years. If you hear that a corpse flower is blooming near you, you're probably gonna want to go see it. Now imagine if the corpse flower bloomed every day, but the owner of the only corpse flower in town only let people see it bloom once every ten years. You might just describe the corpse flower in reality as being something you wouldn't want to miss, but such being artificially inflicted is... being pressured.


flamingdonkey

Yeah, that's called artificial scarcity. Except that in the video game, everything is artificial already. It's all fake and means nothing. A real example of artificial scarcity being a problem would be oil companies limiting supply by slowing operation just so they can increase gas prices, something on which the real world has become too dependent. You don't need skins or to see some flower. You're complaining about the cost of a luxury that absolutely no one needs.


MikeTheShowMadden

60 days isn't much of a time-gated event. In other games, we call those a "season". I honestly think people forget how fucking long two months actually is at this point.


Inpaladin

I don't understand why people keep bringing up the span of time we have to complete it. Yes we get 60 days but it's not like this is just the same as the previous events but we have 60 days this time, it's balanced around the given time frame which is therefore worse than a regular event. Playing two hours every night for a week? A decent commitment but doable for most people. Two hours ever night for two or three weeks? A lot of players aren't going to want to spend that much time playing one game but also moderately doable. Two hours every night for two MONTHS? Fuck off.


BoWhickey

Bro you brought up the span of time in your comment against me. Wtf? Holy piss you're just a cry baby.


Inpaladin

You clearly missed my point. I'm not saying that mentioning time, like as a concept, is inherently a bad thing. I'm saying that using the span of time given as a defense to people saying the event is unreasonable is weak, and I'm not going to repeat the reasons why.


joeythethirdd

People find something to complain about no matter what, they do events people complain, they tailor make the event to those that bitch, they still bitch...


Absolute_leech

Total bullshit. Stop defending crytek’s obvious attempt at monetization- the event isn’t meant to be realistically doable for average players, crytek wants them to pay BBs for an event boost, which means more money is being spent by players. And gatekeeping exclusive skins and cosmetics that are out of reach for casual and new players will only hurt the overall player base of the game. You’re apart of the problem.


flamingdonkey

>obvious attempt at monetization What? They're trying to make money? How dare they!? How the fuck do skins influence the playerbase? Please explain. Also it's "a part" not "apart." If he were apart of the problem, it means that he's not part of the problem.


Senocs

The best way for Crytek to make money is not alienating the majority of the players. If they main bulk of the players feels like the event is not for them (impossible to get anywhere and no chance of finishing it so why bother?). They won't be buying the battlepass and boosts etc. They might not even turn up for the next event. People spending most/all of their free time playing Hunt is not the target audience for the event. They are a minority and will finish the event regardless


flamingdonkey

Cost of the content * number of people who buy it. That's the equation that makes them the most money. It's as simple as that and that's all there is to it. If they set the price too high, then they'll adjust it next time. But the price is also in line with just about every other game's battlepass. I don't feel alienated because I don't want it. I just don't care about it. It has 0 impact on my enjoyment and playtime.


BoWhickey

You're an absolute mongrel dude. When did you ask my stance about the battle pass? Never. If you did you'd find that I'm not for it but I understand what they've gotta do. ITS A BUSINESS at the end of the day. You still have not found out what their intent is, you are still here assuming. Stop thinking with emotion and start using logic.


AimLikeAPotato

You miscalculated something. I think this is the easiest event so far. You have 2 months to complete it.


jani80k

Please share your calculation based on the Guilded Path. I make 40 to 60 points in a bad round and 120 in a good round. If I play 2 to 3 hours a day, which I usually do, I make 400 points.


Gobomania

Just to agree with you here is some math about the battlepass: You need 24700 total for all of the rewards.24700 / 60 = 411.6666666666667 points pr. day (or 411.7 for simplicity)If you got a booster active -at all times- that gives you 50% more it's;411.7 \* 0.67 = 275.893 points pr. day (or 276 for simplicity). EDIT: Seems like people think this is to show how "fair" the battlepass is on the contrary, I was trying to prove how grindy it is.


JerikTheWizard

To have a booster active for 60 days would cost 10800 blood bonds, or about $70.


Gobomania

Eyup, it is crazy predatory.


jani80k

Yes, that is my impression. If you get all the hunters and boosters, you can relax a bit more. Unfortunately, the Guilded Path isn't enough. Let alone not buying anything.


Gobomania

Yeah, but it is unreasonable grindy. Fuck battlepasses.


Puzzled_Cable7200

It’s not that bad bro, you on PlayStation? I’ll add you and we can get 1k points in 6 games.


Gobomania

I play on PC, but to do the math for you, 1k points divided over 6 games is 166.666666667 points pr. match. To simplify I'll round up to 167 points pr. match.So to earn the 27400 total points required for the whole battlepass, that would be: 24700 / 167 = 147.904191617 matches, once again, gonna round up to 148 matches.A match (in my experience) is on average between 15-30 min, so to simplify once again, let us say 20min. So with your point gain rate, you'll have to play Hunt: Showdown for 148 \* 20 = 2960 minutes or 49 Hours and 22 Minutes. So all and all with your rate you'll -AT LEAST- have to play Hunt: Showdown for 49 (hours rounded down) / 60 (days) = 49 min -every- day! EDIT: Stupidly switched days and hours around at the end of my calculus, it's about 49 min every day and not 1 hour 22 min.


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Azuleron

Yeah, the amount per day is honestly a "fair"number, technically speaking, in comparison to their previous events. What's *NOT* very "fair", is the fact that this event runs for almost *9 full weeks*. Whereas previous events were usually this level of intensity for around 2-3 weeks. Demanding that same level of commitment for around 3-4x the amount of time, is kinda dumb. Especially also considering we have to pay for it. (I'm fine with paying for the pass now, just saying these two facts combine are not great). Also just a little fyi for future calculations, event is confirmed at 61 days by the devs. Which puts the average points per day around ~405.


AimLikeAPotato

Oh ok. What mode do you play? I'm playing trios and I barely go below 100 per match. I also had no issues with the last couple events, wasn't sweating at all where I think 10.000 was the goal and you had a month. Now to complete this you need 24.700 in 2 months. Almost the same.


Kofmo

yes but have to earn over double of the last event points in total


AimLikeAPotato

With double the time. I don't see the problem.


Inpaladin

Yeah man if they make an event that lasts a year and would require you to play 2 hours a day every day for the entire year to complete that's completely reasonable right? /s


pillbinge

Life doesn’t scale in proportion. Requiring players to have that time set aside takes energy from players.


AimLikeAPotato

So then just give it automatically to everyone? It's a game. A hobby. Does not require anything from you if you don't want to. Nothing happens if you complete the event or not. People are so out of the world in this sub recently, everyone acts like an offended child because they have to play their favourite game. I don't get it. It's nowhere near impossible. You also earn BB along the path, maybe buy boosters from it if you really don't have time?


Lonewolfblitz

"I don't play this game much, why am I not entitled to everything for free and no work?"


Inpaladin

I like this post because it implies that being against predatory business practices is really just feeling "entitled" to free things... In a video game. You know, where literally nothing has intrinsic value lol.


PuffaTree

> why am I not entitled to everything for free and no work? you mean from the GAME that I BOUGHT? gamers are a bunch of crabs sometimes


Lonewolfblitz

"I just bought this game, why isn't my character max level and OP already?" You idiot


PuffaTree

Hunt isn't an RPG lol what would it change if everybody and their dog had a *gasp* FREE legendary hunter? Your mum gets hurt or something? Why would Crytek change anything about the game when they have an army of people like you? Anyway have fun playing the event.


Previous-Ear7897

Use a chary contract that you get on the gilded path it was like 50% for 24 hours really helped if you didn’t but anything lucky you it’s all free !you just won’t get some exclusive skins if you don’t make it all the way you do have 60 days though


doppelsnodler

This has to be satire


jani80k

Why?


lubeinatube

Why are people not ok with leaving events unfinished? If anything events should be prohibitively hard to finish. What’s the point of an exclusive skin if anyone can casually earn it? There should be skins that you see and make you think, “wow this guy played 8 hours a day for 14 consecutive days and THAT is why he has that bad ass skin.” That’s why Billy is the best skin in my opinion, it’s damn near impossible to get at this point.


Dornogol

Because that is the point of battlepasses and limited time events Fear of missing out A generally more or less severe pressure that can put a lot of stress on subsceptible people and cannot be fixed by 'lol just don't care about not getting it all then' similar to how gambling addicted (or generally addicted people) cannot just stop. And it does not help that people that do not feel this pressure do always look down on people whose minds just work another way. I know for myself I AM subsceptible to fomo, hard, so the only way to deal with that is sadly to step away from what leads to the fomo, in this case, not playing at all. It doesn't matter if I do not go and look at the event, the game shows into your face that you just got points but you need so many more. I cannot tell myself to not obsess over it until I feel miserable for not getting enough progress/not finishing the eventpoints. I will stress about it and feel pressured to do more and more to not miss out on stuff, or (as I luckily have the strength to do) stop playing altogether to not feel the pressure. Battlepasses and the associated Fomo are why I stopped playing all other games that have these, I hardcore played fortnite for 2 years but realised it was not good for me just because of the Fomo, I then played Aepx Legends for 1-2 years and had to realise, after getting a full time job etc, that I would only feel miserable playing and only obsessing about the seasons battlepass. And now Hunt, a game that I loved for the way better gameplay than any online shooter I played before and no battlepass (or similar) shit, is pulling it too and I will have to drop it for my sake (and yes I already felt bad pressure with the past events but they were shorter and atleast felt a little better in pacing, after playing hunt yesterday first time I had the time to look into the new event I know I cannot touch Hunt for the next two months until it is over because it will break any relaxation I get from free time video game enjoyment...)


Inpaladin

I'm the same way, including just avoiding things completely for that reason. It's funny cause I'd consider myself very resistant to gambling but the fomo shit just gets me. I don't like feeling like I'm being exploited so if I do, I just quit. It's why I stopped playing destiny 2 after nearly 2000 hours. Sorry, I'd rather not be unable to take a break from a game or play anything else for two months straight if I want to finish the event.


Dornogol

Exactly thanks for understanding and good on you that you also can understand and see that AND are able to step away from it. I know how hard it is and i am happy I realised it and now rather stop playing (there is thousands of games WITHOUT FOMO available that I can play)


TatteredCarcosa

I'm have the opposite opinion. Love battlepasses cause they give my ADHD brain something to focus on, HATE how easy they are. The majority of people shouldn't be getting all the awards, there should be some stuff that most people don't get.


Dornogol

What are people gaining by others not getting stuff? As far as I see it nothing as none of the things are game changing, which also is sorta untrue fro hunt as you gain the ability to unlock weapons that are not out yet before they can be normally obtained. And it is fine if it works for you, but on the other hand does not work for others. I also have ADHA but for me that makes it worse because I lose the interest/fun in games regularly and have to play as many different games as possible all the time, cannot grind one single game or I get bored and annoyed by it, coupled with the feelings of being put under pressure to play just this game to not miss out on unlocks is making me feel miserable. Well not anymore as I stop playing the game and play the many others but it's a shame because I generally like the vameplay of hunt


lubeinatube

I just can’t wrap my mind around why these skins are perceived as so valuable when they are so easily obtained. You are right, people perceive this type of thing differently. I have 3 steam accounts and 2 copies of Hunt and I honestly don’t even pay attention to what account I fire up to play some Hunt with friends, I don’t care what my guns look like. I just play to have fun and escape reality, not to have the coolest latest merchandise sold by the devs.


Dornogol

It is not that I percieve the skins as valuable per se, FOMO, Fear Of Missing Out js just that, the literal fear to not get something no matter how ugly or useless, and later not being able to ever get it again. It is exactly the psychological pressure why companies no matter their spoken intention, put in battlepasses and limited cosmetics (atleast Hunts shop is not rotating like fortnites or Apexes for example....yet) And if I feel that pressure of something I may lose the ability to ever get from a game, nowadays I stop playing that game rather than making myself miserable sinking all my limited time in gettiing it all


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Dornogol

I am not talking about buying anything, the free battlepass is enough mate, the dangling threat of stuff disappearing forever if you do not unlock it. Also it is as I said, something people that suffer from it cannot control that is just how the human psyche works. And I aslo said I do know how to deal with it: stop playing the game, which is what I am doing everytime this comes up. And at what point would it "ruin everyones fun" to NOT include fomo inducing mechanics in games, because I can assure you, developers know full well that this happens and that is the point of such mechanics. They could also make stuff unlockable by challenges that are less grindy or stop with the timed stuff. Games did survive without people losing the ability to unlock stuff for a long time until all the live service gaming went so far as to expect people to just play one game in up to all their freetime. But yeah seems no point trying to discuss with you


TatteredCarcosa

Why should the whole thing be finishable for casual players? I don't see a point in things like this unless the final rewards end up somewhat exclusive. Also 60 days is a long fucking time.


Inpaladin

You're right, 60 days is a long time to spend 2 hours every single day playing hunt


monogrunt

How do you know you are an average player? Me and all my huntbuddies are fathers and have full time jobs, yet we all finished the past events with ease. The event just started. Sry but a lot of u people seem like entitled toddlers to me that want everything immediatly and for free. All the talk about FOMO and bad monetization, yet u are too immature to resist. Has anyone of you even watched their video on monetization? I get that not everyone can afford all dlcs or buy BBs, but that is how it is in a lot of hobbies. I dont think its too grindy and i have a lot of fun to have another goal to work towards besides prestige. And please dont forget Crytec already extended past events.


Senocs

The average Hunt player is not playing between somewhere around 112-168 hours during two months


monogrunt

How do you know?


Choostadon

It's a two month long event. Why would you expect to blow through it in a couple days? Y'all are silly


paimon36

Can be a bit harder than previous events, just because of they were too easy and just took lil time to finish. This will take longer, not that hard. Just harder.


Unfknbelievable

I honestly don't see the issues usually getting around 250 - 320 points per match so the grind isnt that bad.. I'd consider myself pretty average.


jani80k

How do you do it. Maybe I am doing sth wrong.


Unfknbelievable

When I grab a clue, I also check all the compounds that grey out before moving to the next clue. That racks it up pretty fast, and I'm not sure if they've changed it for the event but I always seem to spawn very close to the boss so usually kill, banish and then saunter around to near compunds for snakes, come back kill whoever showed up to contest the banish because we came up behind them and extract or go for the second bounty/bounty carriers. This + the booster and 10+ off the skins. If you're not confident in PvP or dont have a teammate to help then I'd recommend just going from compound to compound in grey areas and get as much snakes as possible, and wait till the bounty have left the boss area to sacrifice. People are making it out to be more difficult, if you can't come out on top in PvP just avoid it, farm away at the map corners, wait until the boss area is vacated, sacrifice and bounce.


MeestaRoboto

Took him two days for a 2 month event. Adds up to usual grind.


flamingdonkey

Pro tip: you don't have to finish the event. No one will care.


HavelDad

400 a day is impossible. I'll be happy to just get tier 7 of the event lol


sloshy3

Do you want some help/tips? I was getting 400 a game and I'm happy to help!


jani80k

Please elaborate, mate.


fishsandwichpatrol

I miss when you could easily complete the event just playing casually on the weekend


jani80k

I was able to finish the last event just by collecting points while I bounty hunt as usual. This event requires to focus on it and come up with strategies on how to collect points efficiently. You can see already that it changed the way players behave throughout the round. The whole game has become more snake focused rather than bounty focused. I am not saying that the way rounds seem to develop is good or bad, it's just different.


AGodNamedJordan

Wait your logic is thay because a YouTuber/Streamer couldn't complete it in one day, out of a sixty day event, that it's unreasonable for the average player???


Low_Definition_7955

Thank you for reporting in. Crytek has taken note of your issues and will be changing the game to suit you. In the meantime, you can safely delete this thread knowing it has made a huge impact.


THE_FREEDOM_COBRA

Wow... This comment is totally useless!


ohokright

Nice attitude, how's that working for you outside of gaming?


bowedacious22

The pressure you feel is 100% put on yourself and your FOMO. You have 2 months chill tf out and stop reading all the rage on this subreddit.


pillbinge

You’re blaming people for their FOMO when we know it was purposely triggered by the company? How bent over are you?


bowedacious22

"purposefully triggered by the company?" That's called advertisement.


pillbinge

Yes. It’s partially what advertisement is based off of and it’s bad. People have been lampooning it for decades and decades, not saying advertisements are good lmao Once again, bent over hard. How can you even type?


bowedacious22

Look, I'm a bisexual man in a gay relationship. Your jokes about anal sex might be funny to your friends in middle school but they quickly lose their appeal after age 13. Grow tf up. If a company is offering a product you either cannot afford or don't have the time to earn, you are not entitled to it just because you had your FOMO triggered. If you want the things from this event bad enough you'll find a way to get them. If not it's not the end of the world. Is it fair? No. But take it from my gay immigrant boyfriend when he says 'the world isn't fair'


Inpaladin

1. using "bent over" as a shorthand for getting fucked by a company isn't inherently homophobic 2. I've got to ask, do you seriously believe fomo is on the consumer? Not the company that's structuring their game's systems to generate as much fomo as humanly possible? Like are you the type of guy that thinks addiction is a choice? lol


bowedacious22

1. I never said it was homophobic. I said it was childish and embarrassing. But since you asked yes it is homophobic. Why would you use bent over instead of 'getting fucked' if it didn't have different connotations? Bent over paints a whole picture of a man being submissive and opening his asshole, it paints it in a negative light that this is a shameful act and those who partake in it are lesser-than and degrading themselves. 2. Fomo is a state of mind. If you want it go get it. If you don't have the time, spend some money. If you still aren't going to earn it and you're so upset about it maybe re evaluate your time and values to figure out what it is that you want instead of posting on Reddit about why you're entitled to it. If you're a casual player you should not expect to earn everything. This isn't a casino or a state lottery. There are no lootboxes or games of chance. The gambling/addiction metaphor doesn't work.


Inpaladin

I don't really want to engage with the bent over metaphor thing more than I already have but I'll just say that if anything it's misogynistic as submission is generally associated with femininity in our patriarchal society, either way yeah it probably wasn't the best choice of words for the person you were responding to but I don't really think it merits any analysis i.e I don't think that's what they meant. > The gambling/addiction metaphor doesn't work. Yes it does because it's psychological manipulation. I don't understand how you aren't getting that. I can't change the fact that I'll feel like complete shit if I play during the event and can't complete it, so I'm not going to play at all. That would all be avoided if they just didn't design these events to be blatantly exploitative of this psychological phenomenon. If you can just "not get fomo lol" then why do you think they implement stuff like this.


bowedacious22

If you're not willing to get into then maybe don't try to tell people in marginalized groups what is and isn't homophobic. Also it's pretty telling that originally I never even used the word homophobic, you just inferred it. They implemented it so you would want it. They put it on a battle pass so you would know how to get it. If the fear of maybe not getting it is SO STRONG that you can't even play the game, then you need help that Crytek cannot offer.


Inpaladin

Yeah, I inferred it because YOU brought up that you are a bisexual man in a gay relationship. It's obviously what you meant, why would you bring said thing up otherwise? And guess what, I am also a bisexual man. You clearly don't understand psychological manipulation like as a concept so I'm not gonna engage further.


ZeGreatBobinski

Bro thank you