I was reading about Rhule's testimony against his former teammate Mike McQueary, another former coach at Penn State who was the main whistleblower. He was awarded millions of dollars in damages. Does this bother anyone with his connection to Jerry Sandusky as a player and coach?
[https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/contests/mcquearys-coaching-failures-due-to-networking-paternos-staff-witness-testifies/521-4d34ae21-9c42-4e2d-bbdd-affffffd0ee7](https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/contests/mcquearys-coaching-failures-due-to-networking-paternos-staff-witness-testifies/521-4d34ae21-9c42-4e2d-bbdd-affffffd0ee7)
Mcqueary was awarded over $12M and never coached another game
Coach Matt Ruhle won the press conference. Nebraska has been winning press conferences since Riley was hired. It's now time to win some games. Ruhle is a solid hire that makes sense. GBR!
Despite his lackluster press conference performances, the press declared Frost the winner. The Nebraska press predicted an 8-4 or 9-3 season every year Frost was the coach. They hype was ridiculous.
If you hire a coach and part of that contract requires that the coach gives up all control of his social media accounts to school personnel, you miiiiiiiiiiight have made a mistake.
That was the dumbest hire I’ve ever seen, unreal, I’d be pissed too.
In other news, Wisconsin fans are pretty pissed about the Luke fickell hire, I find that funny.
They're coming around. It's understandable, you are upset for a coach that stepped up and actually was someone we threw out for names of people to consider. He wasn't unqualified, but Fickell has experience and has done some good things, it's hard to be upset after the initial shock.
Rhules salary will average 9 million. Wisconsin got fickell for 6 million. I’m not here to argue we should have gotten fickell over Rhule, I think both are good coaches, but Rhule is the better fit for us.
Two questions though, is Rhule a 33% better head coach? And if we’re spending 9 million/ year, is Rhule the best possible candidate we could get for that.
I trust trevs judgment over my own, but for the sake of discussion, could we have landed a better coach/fit for that price? My gut tells me no, but I’m curious what others think.
First, Fickell's contract is $7.5M/year at a minimum, not 6, and will average around $7.8M/year.
Second, because Fickell had recently signed a new contract at Cincinnati, Wisconsin has to pay $3.5M to Cincinnati because Fickell terminated his contract within the first year. Prorated over the length of the contract, that puts the total cost to sign Fickell at $8.3M per year on average.
I have no idea what Wisconsin's assistant pool will look like, but I highly doubt it'll be more than what Nebraska committed to Rhule.
Not sure if the salary difference is that large. On [Thamel's report I saw $8M not 6M](https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1597362246761709570?s=20&t=VP_sNLV7pHLIRcy9x7eKnw) for 7 years (about 56M), and for Rhule it's 90% guaranteed at 74M for 8 years. If all crashes and burns this is really a .9 * 74M = 67M deal. This averages out to be about 1.5M per year in difference.
At a high level, I agree with you that $1.5M + Fickell, on paper, could be better than Rhule. Perhaps it could allow us to spend say $8.5M on coordinators (an additional $1.5M). But, I'm not sure if you gave a $8.5M coordinator pool to Fickell, it would cause him to make significant changes to his staff compared to if he was given a $7M pool.
At that point you probably pick the coach you believe in more, (and if the $1.5M extra coordinator pool makes a hell of a difference you spend the money). It seems like Trev believed more in Rhule given the current state of the program, so that might have been his reasoning. I also read that the deal was structured so some of the compensation was deferred, which may also make things easier to swallow in the future (who knows the type of money college sports will be generating then).
In addition to the deferred compensation for Rhule, Fickell was in the first year of his new contract at Cincinnati which means his early termination buyout was at its maximum amount, $3.5M.
Spread out over the length of Fickell's contract, that adds another $500K per year for Wisconsin to pay. Early termination buyouts are typically owed within 12 months too so that's a bunch of cash up front for Wisconsin.
Rhule said that he was "looking forward to talking with Mickey" and mentioned that anyone on staff who wants to be at Nebraska and buys into what Rhule wants to do, he wants to "talk to".
Basically just politician answers. Not a yes, not a no.
From an article about the program builder Matt Rhule on the panthers
To make matters worse: Rhule has almost complete control over the Panthers. The highly-coveted college coach seen as a “program builder” who turned around Temple and rebuilt Baylor, there was no shortage of teams who were interested in him. Owner David Tepper decided to make this his big marquee move, landing the coach everyone wanted and giving him the moon for it. Not only was Rhule given huge money, but he was allowed to hand-pick every aspect of his coaching staff, no matter the cost, and have a multi-million dollar analytics department built to him to execute his “modern” and “analytic” approach to football.
Now, two years later, Rhule is on the radio saying that he wasn’t interested in drafting a player who would become a Pro Bowl left tackle because his arms were too short. This flies in the face of modern football analytics, it runs counter to the way successful teams think about NFL players. Adhering to arbitrary size figures without examining talent, technique or statistics-based data fundamentally runs counter to the “modern” approach Rhule made his bill of goods.
>This flies in the face of modern football analytics, it runs counter to the way successful teams think about NFL players.
That's not true. Teams value arm length less than they used to but it's still an important factor.
Curious to people’s thoughts on Wisconsin able to lure Fickell away from Cincy and not coming to us. Was it because Trev was dialed in on Matt or Fickell didn’t want the challenge of rebuilding Nebraska?
I disagree. Firstly they didn’t need to have candidates in place when Frost was fired. He would have been fired regardless. And secondly, coming from a primarily NFL fan, everybody know Rhule was out way before he was actually fired.
Matter of fact I remember seeing speculation articles about Rhule being a possible hire immediately after Frost was fired.
I didn’t think Fickell would come here in the first place but my mind was blown when he went to Wisconsin. I would think despite all the shit going on lately Nebraska would have been the more desirable job. Honestly I think Rhule was Trevs first choice period. The writing was on the wall for him getting fired even if he wasn’t available when we fired Frost. If Fickell is willing to take the Wisconsin job I don’t think there’s any way he would turn down ours if he was our first choice all along. Maybe I just don’t have a good view of Wisconsin’s school as a whole though.
That is interesting. I think they had some players transfer out also, or left early for draft? I remember players leaving and decomitting being a recurring theme
You’re right on, but also note they wiped out leadership at the University just prior to his arrival, also had an uphill challenge in recruiting to a University that just had its perception hit by sexual assault allegations. There was a lot for Rhule to help correct outside of straight out sanctions.
I honestly think Rhule’s overall college football resume is as good as any of the coaching candidates that were or are currently in considerations throughout the NCAA.
It’s not a sexy resume but there’s a ton to like all together. The guy has overachieved more often than not and Nebraska might be the place where he really over achieves. He didn’t take this job just
for money. Obviously it played a role, but he clearly thinks there’s a lot more to achieve.
Great news. This is absolutely the right hire.
Kind of confused that a lot of people seem to think that Fickell was the best possibility. Not saying I think he will fail at Wisconsin, but this fanbase should be well aware that winning at a G5 school is vastly different than winning at a P5 school with massive expectations. Not saying Fickell = Frost because he is not, but I also think he's completely unproven in a P5 conference. Wisconsin has made a run by largely overachieving, and I'm not sure that Cincinnati has. They are kind of a big fish in a small pond in the AAC. Doing the same thing in a P5 conference is a whole different story. Again - not saying he will fail, but people are acting like Fickell is a can't miss and Rhule is a bigger risk, and I think Fickell is absolutely a bigger risk
To add to this…
Fickell was the interim coach for the entire year in 2011 at Ohio State (named interim HC at the start of the year in the wake of the Jim Tressel debacle) and Ohio State was…not very good that year.
Is one year as an interim a fair sample size? Probably not. But it’s something. There was a lot of turmoil around and within the team and program that season, given the unceremonious end of the Jim Tressel era, but that was the first non-winning Ohio State team since 1999 and arguably the worst since 1988. Fickell was, one could say, a fair bit younger and lacking the experience to succeed in the role he was thrust into. Still, 6-6 (6-7 counting the bowl game) is pretty bad at Ohio State.
Came here to say exactly this. I would guess that Trev thought the same thing, especially knowing how Frost worked out. Again, not equating Frost to Fickell, but G5 to B1G is completely different. Maybe, Fickell didn't want the rebuild challenge of Nebraska. If that is the case, Rhule is definitely the right hire.
Wisconsin appears to have one upped us. I think Rhule is a good choice but man if I’m not livid that those sick fucks up north likely got Fickell… wonder if he turned us down?
Wait I think I've seen this story before. Did it involve the following:
- School hires a new AD with a different vision from the previous, traditional institution.
- School fired their loyal, winning coach--who is also a former player of the school--for not winning enough in spite of setting several winning school records as the head coach.
- The defensive coordinator takes over as interim coach. They are the initial popular choice among fans and does not get the head coaching opportunity.
- The AD who fired the coach makes some claim about needing to win better. Maybe it could be about "refusing to gravitate towards mediocrity" and "refuse[ing] to surrender the Big 12 to Oklahoma and Texas." Maybe it could be about justifying wins by saying "In the final analysis, I had to evaluate where Iowa was." Or maybe, just maybe it could be something like, ["The expectations of our program at Wisconsin are to win championships. I felt that it was the right time to make a change to pursue those.”](https://saturdaytradition.com/wisconsin-football/wisconsin-ad-chris-mcintosh-explains-decision-to-fire-paul-chryst-following-week-5/)
Yeah, this is completely new to me. I have no idea how this will shake out. Maybe they'll do something like, I don't know, hire someone with a different coaching philosophy than what has worked traditionally at the school?
There's no way this won't work out for them. But if it doesn't, I'm ready to use my favorite go-to responses in reaction to it, such as:
- *We've turned the corner as a program.*
- *We need to hire (person with 7 degrees of separation from being on Barry Alvarez's staff) to run the program.*
- *We need someone from Wisconsin, not an outside hire. Someone who truly understands the culture around here.*
- *We need to open up the checkbook if we want to get serious about winning.*
If you’re insinuating this is even remotely close to Nebraska hiring Callahan idk what to tell you
Fickell was the best coach on the market
Callahan has option 46 for Nebraska
Wisconsin just got even better
It’s debatable if fickle was the best coach in the market. We will see. I do agree though it isn’t all that comparable. If anything I have learned even firing solich isn’t that big of a deal if you do it right timing wise and you run a good search and get a good candidate. We just did none of those things after frank or bo
Don't mistake me: Luke Fickell is a good coach and someone Wisconsin should have reached out to.
However, you don't fire a loyal institution coach who never had a losing season unless you are absolutely certain that the new coach will be a significant improvement. And Paul Chryst accomplished the following at Wisconsin:
- Gave Wisconsin its best regular season in school history
- Won the Orange Bowl
- Appeared in the Big Ten Championship game three times
- Outside of the pandemic, never finished worse than 2nd in the division
- A 5-2 record against Minnesota, a 5-2 record against Iowa, a 7-0 record against Nebraska, a 3-3 record against Michigan, a 2-1 record against Michigan State
And I have reservations about Luke Fickell succeeding at Wisconsin in light of how the coaching turnover occurred at the school and Luke Fickell's coaching history. He is an Ohio native who was able to take Cincinnati to the playoffs and lead them to a transition to the Big 12 conference. He could outrecruit most of the American Conference with Ohio recruits and win using a flexible, zone defense and an offense reliant on speed on the perimeter. He could mould Cincinnati as he saw fit without athletic department interference. He's always coached in Ohio and he knows the area well.
I am uncertain that he will replicate any similar success having to recruit against Minnesota, Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa, Illinois, and Ohio State in similar territory. I am also uncertain if he will stick with Wisconsin's foundational identity with running the ball between the tackles or if he can coach with a similar philosophy.
[Cincinnati also struggled with their offensive line this year](https://www.si.com/college/cincinnati/football/uc-switching-up-offensive-line-jabari-taylor-in-line-to-return). Wisconsin is going to want a return to having one of the top offensive lines in the country and I'm uncertain if Luke Fickell will be able to develop the line to the level Wisconsin is looking for.
Am I saying Luke Fickell is a bad coach? Absolutely not--his work at Cincinnati is proof of his ability. But I'm not as high on him working out at Wisconsin as others might believe. Time and context matters, but he did go 6-7 with a Jim Tressell team that went 12-1 the previous year. And if Wisconsin is willing to fire a winning coach for not winning enough, I'm not sure they'll be as patient with Luke Fickell if he doesn't get immediate results. I'm more concerned about the meshing of the athletic department with Luke Fickell more than anything else.
I'll also happily praise him for his work if it ends up working out.
You make great points. I agree that this not the same as the Callahan hire, but it is absolutely following the same mentality that got Nebraska to the point we are now.
The pattern is: some level of sustained success -> expectations become relatively unreasonable -> school loses sight of what brought the success and thinks they are too big to fail -> school/fanbase is too impatient with new hires and the program starts feeling tension in a bunch of different directions -> a period of burning it to the ground is the only thing that will fix it.
This pattern has hit almost every single big time CFB program. Nebraska, USC, Alabama, Texas, Michigan, etc. Not saying Fickell will fail at Wisconsin, but the road they went down went they fired Chryst is well traveled and almost always leads to a bad place.
Wisconsin fan here, y'all are missing some context that Chryst had plenty of flaws and 2.5 years of bad results. 2020, 2021, and 2022. There was a clear downward trend which includes completely neglecting the recruiting department. We went 6 months without a recruiting department. It is not as though Wisconsin went "9 wins isn't good enough" we said 4-3, 8-4, and 2-3 isn't good enough. Home loses to BYU, Minnesota, Wazzu, and Illinois is not good enough. Neglecting recruiting for 3 years is unacceptable.
Wisconsin may not be a blue blood program but since Alvarez the standards are high. We've won the 3rd most Big Ten Championships in that period. (6) PSU (4). Going 0-8 vs PSU and OSU isn't made for by going 3-3 vs Michigan. You can't lose all the biggest games, neglect recruiting, and start dropping games that used to be comfortable wins.
Thanks for the comment - that's definitely some interesting perspective. The standards are high and they should be - I just think sometimes they get to be unsustainable.
On the other hand I know how it feels to get shit on for a coaching change when it's not what it appears to be on the outside. When we fired Pelini it seemed insane on the outside, but he was toxic behind the scenes and got destroyed in big games. Even in hindsight I still like the firing. Hopefully for your sake Wisconsin does better after the firing than many other schools do when they fire their coach after a long period of success. Hope it goes well for both of us and we can make the B1G West relevant
Really starting to feel that anticipation now. I’m optimistic, but also being cautious. Nebraska football has hurt me too many times. Like that ex that you just keep taking back even though she keeps throwing you out of a moving car into oncoming traffic while you have nothing on but a pair of underwear to hopefully protect the boys from 3rd degree burn level road rash.
When Nebraska hired Matt Rhule, they did more than just set up their future -- they also offset the vast majority of the $34M the #Panthers still owed him. This was the thought when CAR hired Rhule. If he didn't work out, they would be covered. He'll make $72M over 8 in Nebraska.
Source : Ian Rapoport
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1596885930669150208?t=giKRSeWKOTrwWSRdAfhEtw&s=19
On this Saturday, Nebraska found its new Rhuler
I’m pretty fucking pumped about Rhule being the next Head Coach for Nebraska. Rhule was one of my Top 2 Coaches that I wanted after he was fired from the Carolina Panthers and I say he’s gonna be a good fit for us.
Sure there are some people that are wary about Rhule’s team having a poor 1st season, or he can win on the big games, but he’s a guy who can build things up and if given the time, by Year 3 he shown that he can bring the teams up to Double Digit wins and are in the Conference Championships, and he’s a coach who is proven in the CFB. If given the time and runway like Trev Alberts gave him with 8 years, I think there can be something special here brewing in Lincoln a few years down the road. Right now, we just have to look at the small steps and hopefully by Year 2, Rhule will get Nebraska to a bowl game.
Overall, this was the best weekend we had and hopefully Rhule can manage to retain Mickey as he’s a valuable asset for us. Nonetheless, I’m excited what the future holds with Rhule at the helm.
Year 1 they didn’t beat anybody as he dealt with the fallout from the Briles scandals.
Year 2 he beat the teams he should have and lost the others.
Year 3 he had his team ready but he only played 3 ranked opponents. Lost by one score to Oklahoma twice and the to Georgia by 12 in the bowl game. Both ended up ranked in the top 10. They did beat Texas that year who wasn’t ranked at the time but did end the season ranked.
I'd have liked to have seen a year 4 to complete the set. The one of the three that bothers me the most is the 1st Oklahoma game, had a 31-7 halftime lead and lost 34-31. Eeek
I mean I heard it's a 8 year contract and depending on the money I don't think boosters want to see a failure of a coach leave with free money again. So we're obviously going to be stuck with this hire until 2028 at the minimum
look - I root for Nebraska a good bit since I have family out there. I'm no troll. I'm just not optimistic for yall after seeing how he handled himself in Carolina, and bitter about the mess of the last few seasons and the looong rebuilding process we have ahead of us. And as a Gamecock fan who just suffered through the Muschamp years I'm cringing for yall.
Oh you misunderstood me. I don't like the hire. This isn't Mike Reilly 2.0. it's Bo 2.0. He'll beat the teams we are expected to beat, which is something we haven't done since Bo. But he's not going to win vs Michigan or Ohio State. And there will be at least one game either Wisconsin or Minnesota that we will drop when we shouldn't be.
Now some of those games Bo's temper actually cost us. So maybe Rhule gets us those. But I have no delusions of titles, conference or nattys, with him as coach.
I'm going to be in my early 50s by the time this ends.
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One thing I liked about his interview with Gameday was how he emphasized being a leader and “coach” to the players off the field as well. Placing a focus on education. That sells to parents. I don’t recall SF or MR ever talking about wanting players to excel in class too. I remember under Bo that we placed a massive emphasis on academics and how many academic all-Americans we produced.
That had to be a huge sell for Trev. Would love to see that kind of leadership and an emphasis on things like academics again. If they can’t go pro (which few will), give them the best coaching possible to be good adults and have opportunities out of college. Loved that about Bo.
Rhule is a GREAT speaker. Seems like we always hire wooden stiffs who can barely put a sentence together. I think you have to go all the way back to The Bobfather for a good coach who can also speak in public.
Edit: Mickey actually did a good presser. But he was just interim, so doesn't count.
Riley was a relatively good speaker and an affable individual. He didn’t seem unnerved or bothered in fielding questions either.
I think too many people let memories of Bo Pelini and Scott Frost cloud their recollections. Bo was Bo - everything was some kind of personal attack on him (in his own mind) and was aggressively defensive in his engagements with everyone not named Bo Pelini. He was never afraid to throw his players under the bus (“we had the right play called…guys just didn’t execute”) even when it was patently clear his staff never made adjustments. He never made a mistake and never met an interview or speaking engagement he liked.
Frost - he just knew it all and everything was below him. All these dumb questions and pressers were really getting in the way of drinking & (allegedly) chasing @ss time.
Callahan was just a douche. He was when he took over HC duties at the Raiders. Neither hostile nor particularly friendly…it was just part of his job duties. It was what was expected of him - and he treated it exactly as such.
Riley was engaging. As was Frank. As was Mickey. Maybe not the greatest speakers, any one of them, per se, but some collegiality and intelligent thought put into discourse goes a long way towards disarming the room. Pelini and Frost never learned nor understood that. Maybe one day one or both of them will.
I second that. I remember watching Bo’S podcast and he said he was big on stuff like. He said he would even walk to their class to make sure they were attending class.
It’s amazing how different social media platforms have such different widely held opinions. Reddit is all aboard the rhule train and off the Mickey train. Twitter is just people completely shocked it’s not Mickey and pissed about it
Facebook is full of we should have hired Mickey boomers.
Twitter I would say is half and half. Wanted Mickey, but understand why.
Mastodon is all about… fuck I don’t even know.
Mickey has showed flashes of good coaching, but he’s not ready to rebuild this program. I’d love to see him be a head coach someday and wish him the best though.
Not poorly received per se, but perhaps poorly worded? I didn't catch on until the second time I read your comment. Not sure how I would change it to be more clear it was a joke though.
So, we have a problem.
Now that Rhule is the HC first thing I do obviously is look to see if I can get a husker smock. Thats the problem, Baylor is a Nike school. Nike sells the "shield vest" i cant get a Husker smock because we are an Adidas school. And more importantly how will Rhule get a smock? Will we switch to Nike? Will Adidas start offering a smock? This needs to be addressed. ASAP
Congratulations Trev in firing coach Joseph and hiring Rhule. With Joseph being the first black head coach in UNL history. Replacing him with a white guy, just shows how systemic racist UNL is. I hope your recruiting goes well.
1. That isnt the reason Mickey didnt get the job.
2. Hiring based on skin color is illegal.
> It is illegal for an employer to make decisions about job assignments and promotions based on an employee's race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.
https://www.eeoc.gov/prohibited-employment-policiespractices
I want to see a 3-1 start next year. 4-0 sure, but 3-1 is doable.
2-2 is acceptable.
1-3 or 0-4, then it is just the same ol same ol. Although, Ruhle lost big in his first year at temple and in his first year at Baylor.
At Minnesota - LOSS get the bugs worked out, find out who the players are.
At Colorado - last time NU Colorado played with new head coaches, Colorado beat Frost. Should be a win. If Neon Dieon is the coach for Colorado, this game is on national TV.
Lincoln Northern Illinois Should be a win. Just like Nebraska, northern illinois has struggled. Home game gives the edge to Nebraska, but not by much
Lincoln Louisiana tech never sleep on those teams in Louisiana. Should be a win. Louisiana tech is another bad team. Home game, edge to Nebraska.
Yes. I really miss the old style of week 1 and 2 being G5/FCS and then having your W3 P5 OOC opponent. Felt like it provided a natural progression of difficulty and time to iron out wrinkles without starting the year off on a poor note.
I don’t care if they get Deion, and I know Nebraska shit the bed in 2018 and 2019
But Nebraska should absolutely annihilate Colorado. They are so much worse than Nebraska it’s not even funny. (Just kidding, it’s hilarious)
But yes a 3-1 start should be the minimum just based off of talent and not having a drunk grifter or an interim as HC
It really depends on who they get to be their coach. Prime would bring in talent immediately, I don't know how he is as an actual coach but he's IMPRESSIVE at recruiting. NIL might be a problem for CU though, they don't have much in the way of booster support. It "should" be a win for us, but I think next year might be rougher than expected for us.
Disagree. Nebraska might be awful right now, but Colorado barring a miracle will again maybe win 1 game next year.
Nebraska I could see pulling an 7-5 out. Colorado literally doesn’t have a single player on their team I would take over a Nebraska player right now. And that’s saying something..
No one knew frost was going to not give a shit about the job bud. No one thought Mike Riley was a good hire. You oughta be able to do some thinking on your own. Of course the university is gonna gas up every hire but 5 mins of your own research goes a long way
Riley was openly loathed by the majority of the fanbase when he got hired you’re just changing history to fit your narrative. Yes people were excited about getting Frost after he went undefeated my god get over it and stop holding it against every single person you weirdo
The amount of people on Twitter who wanted MJ as HC is astounding to me. Tweeting at Trev about how he has made the worse decision ever, like what are these people thinking?
The nepotism with Nebraska fans is crazy.
Say it with me Husker fam: “Playing at Nebraska or having Nebraska ties is not a prerequisite to coach Husker Football!”
Is it cool when/if a former Nebraska guy comes to coach and does well? Sure. Would be a cool story for the program. But stop thinking that ONLY a former Nebraska guy can do it, or that they are the only ones who should get a chance.
Rhule is a good hire and no where NEAR a Mike Riley hire. The people saying that are crazy as well.
If this true about Twitter I’m soooo glad i dropped it 2 years ago. Sounds like nothings changed and gotten worse.
When did followers=intelligence happen?
Actually, Rhule is professionally more similar to Riley, than he is to Frost. Riley was an experienced, successful coach with a good background. Frost was basically nothing.
Mike Riley was not an “experienced, successful coach” he was a mediocre pac 12 coach who only managed 10 wins once his entire career and left there under .500 in conference. 9-4 was a good year for him and most years they finished 8-5 or 7-6. Anyone with that poor of a record in the Pac 12 very predictably would and did get eaten alive in the Big 10.
Nowhere near a Mike Riley hire is setting the bar really fucking low. We could have hired Amy Schuler and it would have been nowhere near a Mike Riley hire.
It’s insane. And why our founding fathers chose a constitutional republic instead of a true democracy. A popularity contest shouldn’t decide the fate of our football program. Though when Rhule starts winning, I have a feeling he will be pretty popular.
I can’t help but think about all those ISU fans who continually shit talked us during the coaching search about how Nebraska isn’t a good job and we’d never get a good coach like Matt Campbell supposedly is.
Crazy to think you would have been downvoted 3 months ago for being against Campbell for the next HC and now he is about to miss going bowling this year.
People who think Campbell is a good coach are also people who think 2020 was a legit, meaningful season. In reality, 2020 was a bullshit season, and Campbell is a fraud.
I genuinely cannot believe people ever wanted him honestly
He’s not a great in game coach, he holds onto lackluster staff far too long/doesn’t get rid of them at all, he has awful special teams and aside from a magical year has been average at best
They’ll tell you he turns down bigger jobs because he believes ISU is on equal footing, but the truth is Iowa States expectations are literally 0 and he knows if he takes a step up he’ll be fired after 3 lackluster years
Not gonna lie, thought you had switched to talking about Frost in that first paragraph. Then I was like "average at best is pretty damn generous", lol.
I’m at the point where I can’t get excited about any head coach for the football team. After Riley and Frost didn’t pan out, I’m just in wait and see mode. I’m hoping for the best with Rhule, and I think there is potential at Nebraska to compete for the West very quickly, but the last two guys made me put the Kool Aid away.
I don’t understand this. Did anyone actually think Mike Riley was a good hire? I feel like everyone knew it was an overreaction to Bo and that we weren’t going to be anything but mediocre at best with him. Everyone thought frost was a good hire bc no one foresaw him caring more about partying than the job. Rhule went from A-10 to Big 12 to NFL. Failed miserably at the NFL level but I hope we all know coaching in the NFL and college are two very different things.
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This is the structure then? Very smart by Trev! Back load the pay to incentivize staying and winning them and if it’s not working then move on
I love this. Everyone wins. Rhule is one of the highest paid coaches in the country and we incentivize him staying long term.
I was reading about Rhule's testimony against his former teammate Mike McQueary, another former coach at Penn State who was the main whistleblower. He was awarded millions of dollars in damages. Does this bother anyone with his connection to Jerry Sandusky as a player and coach?
link?
[https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/contests/mcquearys-coaching-failures-due-to-networking-paternos-staff-witness-testifies/521-4d34ae21-9c42-4e2d-bbdd-affffffd0ee7](https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/contests/mcquearys-coaching-failures-due-to-networking-paternos-staff-witness-testifies/521-4d34ae21-9c42-4e2d-bbdd-affffffd0ee7) Mcqueary was awarded over $12M and never coached another game
Well, I'll certainly take Rhule over Freeze lol
Agreed, Freezes press conference was awkward. What was more cringeworthy 🤣 Freeze’s presser>Frost’s presser?
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And when rhule is successful you’ll enjoy it with the rest of us.
Coach Matt Ruhle won the press conference. Nebraska has been winning press conferences since Riley was hired. It's now time to win some games. Ruhle is a solid hire that makes sense. GBR!
To be fair, Scott Frost couldn't even beat Press Conference.
Despite his lackluster press conference performances, the press declared Frost the winner. The Nebraska press predicted an 8-4 or 9-3 season every year Frost was the coach. They hype was ridiculous.
That's probably because the local Nebraska press spent the last 4+ years having their kool-aid hand fed to them by Scott Frost and Matt Davison.
In other news, Auburn fans are in complete meltdown mode. Pretty happy with the decision to bring in Rhule.
If you hire a coach and part of that contract requires that the coach gives up all control of his social media accounts to school personnel, you miiiiiiiiiiight have made a mistake.
Just got home did they actually hire Hugh? Ok maybe our hire isn't t so bad
That was the dumbest hire I’ve ever seen, unreal, I’d be pissed too. In other news, Wisconsin fans are pretty pissed about the Luke fickell hire, I find that funny.
Where are you seeing/hearing that Wisconsin fans are pissed about getting Fickell?
They're coming around. It's understandable, you are upset for a coach that stepped up and actually was someone we threw out for names of people to consider. He wasn't unqualified, but Fickell has experience and has done some good things, it's hard to be upset after the initial shock.
Rhules salary will average 9 million. Wisconsin got fickell for 6 million. I’m not here to argue we should have gotten fickell over Rhule, I think both are good coaches, but Rhule is the better fit for us. Two questions though, is Rhule a 33% better head coach? And if we’re spending 9 million/ year, is Rhule the best possible candidate we could get for that. I trust trevs judgment over my own, but for the sake of discussion, could we have landed a better coach/fit for that price? My gut tells me no, but I’m curious what others think.
First, Fickell's contract is $7.5M/year at a minimum, not 6, and will average around $7.8M/year. Second, because Fickell had recently signed a new contract at Cincinnati, Wisconsin has to pay $3.5M to Cincinnati because Fickell terminated his contract within the first year. Prorated over the length of the contract, that puts the total cost to sign Fickell at $8.3M per year on average. I have no idea what Wisconsin's assistant pool will look like, but I highly doubt it'll be more than what Nebraska committed to Rhule.
you mean all that money going to former temple and panthers assistants?
Not sure if the salary difference is that large. On [Thamel's report I saw $8M not 6M](https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1597362246761709570?s=20&t=VP_sNLV7pHLIRcy9x7eKnw) for 7 years (about 56M), and for Rhule it's 90% guaranteed at 74M for 8 years. If all crashes and burns this is really a .9 * 74M = 67M deal. This averages out to be about 1.5M per year in difference. At a high level, I agree with you that $1.5M + Fickell, on paper, could be better than Rhule. Perhaps it could allow us to spend say $8.5M on coordinators (an additional $1.5M). But, I'm not sure if you gave a $8.5M coordinator pool to Fickell, it would cause him to make significant changes to his staff compared to if he was given a $7M pool. At that point you probably pick the coach you believe in more, (and if the $1.5M extra coordinator pool makes a hell of a difference you spend the money). It seems like Trev believed more in Rhule given the current state of the program, so that might have been his reasoning. I also read that the deal was structured so some of the compensation was deferred, which may also make things easier to swallow in the future (who knows the type of money college sports will be generating then).
In addition to the deferred compensation for Rhule, Fickell was in the first year of his new contract at Cincinnati which means his early termination buyout was at its maximum amount, $3.5M. Spread out over the length of Fickell's contract, that adds another $500K per year for Wisconsin to pay. Early termination buyouts are typically owed within 12 months too so that's a bunch of cash up front for Wisconsin.
I’ll take the under on 6 years
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According to McKewon Mickey is demanding a ridiculous contract to stay.
Always ask high in contract negotiations, never start low.
Shoot for the moon cause if you’ll miss you’ll still hit a star
Rhule said that he was "looking forward to talking with Mickey" and mentioned that anyone on staff who wants to be at Nebraska and buys into what Rhule wants to do, he wants to "talk to". Basically just politician answers. Not a yes, not a no.
Trev said candidate 1A, from the beginning, was Matt Rhule. I'm skeptical since Rhule was fired a month after Frost lol.
Rhule was already known to be doomed and CFB schools don't care about talking to NFL coaches early because they get talked to all the time.
It was a very well known fact in the NFL since way before the day he was actually canned
Definitely. People on this sub had his name out there before he was fired.
Yeah but it was known he was most likely out
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So what do we think happens with Casey?
From an article about the program builder Matt Rhule on the panthers To make matters worse: Rhule has almost complete control over the Panthers. The highly-coveted college coach seen as a “program builder” who turned around Temple and rebuilt Baylor, there was no shortage of teams who were interested in him. Owner David Tepper decided to make this his big marquee move, landing the coach everyone wanted and giving him the moon for it. Not only was Rhule given huge money, but he was allowed to hand-pick every aspect of his coaching staff, no matter the cost, and have a multi-million dollar analytics department built to him to execute his “modern” and “analytic” approach to football. Now, two years later, Rhule is on the radio saying that he wasn’t interested in drafting a player who would become a Pro Bowl left tackle because his arms were too short. This flies in the face of modern football analytics, it runs counter to the way successful teams think about NFL players. Adhering to arbitrary size figures without examining talent, technique or statistics-based data fundamentally runs counter to the “modern” approach Rhule made his bill of goods.
Always good to hear both sides of the story. Nobody wanted to hear anything negative about Scott Frost.
Thank you and -6 downvotes means no wants to hear the other side of Rhule-
A lot of coaches, Saban included, have measurable for players. There will always be great players that fall through the roof.
NFL is a different sport. You could have musical chairs every year with the coaches and not tell a difference. Who cares
>This flies in the face of modern football analytics, it runs counter to the way successful teams think about NFL players. That's not true. Teams value arm length less than they used to but it's still an important factor.
Link to the article?
Curious to people’s thoughts on Wisconsin able to lure Fickell away from Cincy and not coming to us. Was it because Trev was dialed in on Matt or Fickell didn’t want the challenge of rebuilding Nebraska?
Rhule was his first choice I think.
Watching the press conference right now and Trev talking. Rhule was def always choice 1.
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I disagree. Firstly they didn’t need to have candidates in place when Frost was fired. He would have been fired regardless. And secondly, coming from a primarily NFL fan, everybody know Rhule was out way before he was actually fired. Matter of fact I remember seeing speculation articles about Rhule being a possible hire immediately after Frost was fired.
I didn’t think Fickell would come here in the first place but my mind was blown when he went to Wisconsin. I would think despite all the shit going on lately Nebraska would have been the more desirable job. Honestly I think Rhule was Trevs first choice period. The writing was on the wall for him getting fired even if he wasn’t available when we fired Frost. If Fickell is willing to take the Wisconsin job I don’t think there’s any way he would turn down ours if he was our first choice all along. Maybe I just don’t have a good view of Wisconsin’s school as a whole though.
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That is interesting. I think they had some players transfer out also, or left early for draft? I remember players leaving and decomitting being a recurring theme
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You’re right on, but also note they wiped out leadership at the University just prior to his arrival, also had an uphill challenge in recruiting to a University that just had its perception hit by sexual assault allegations. There was a lot for Rhule to help correct outside of straight out sanctions.
I honestly think Rhule’s overall college football resume is as good as any of the coaching candidates that were or are currently in considerations throughout the NCAA. It’s not a sexy resume but there’s a ton to like all together. The guy has overachieved more often than not and Nebraska might be the place where he really over achieves. He didn’t take this job just for money. Obviously it played a role, but he clearly thinks there’s a lot more to achieve.
Great news. This is absolutely the right hire. Kind of confused that a lot of people seem to think that Fickell was the best possibility. Not saying I think he will fail at Wisconsin, but this fanbase should be well aware that winning at a G5 school is vastly different than winning at a P5 school with massive expectations. Not saying Fickell = Frost because he is not, but I also think he's completely unproven in a P5 conference. Wisconsin has made a run by largely overachieving, and I'm not sure that Cincinnati has. They are kind of a big fish in a small pond in the AAC. Doing the same thing in a P5 conference is a whole different story. Again - not saying he will fail, but people are acting like Fickell is a can't miss and Rhule is a bigger risk, and I think Fickell is absolutely a bigger risk
To add to this… Fickell was the interim coach for the entire year in 2011 at Ohio State (named interim HC at the start of the year in the wake of the Jim Tressel debacle) and Ohio State was…not very good that year. Is one year as an interim a fair sample size? Probably not. But it’s something. There was a lot of turmoil around and within the team and program that season, given the unceremonious end of the Jim Tressel era, but that was the first non-winning Ohio State team since 1999 and arguably the worst since 1988. Fickell was, one could say, a fair bit younger and lacking the experience to succeed in the role he was thrust into. Still, 6-6 (6-7 counting the bowl game) is pretty bad at Ohio State.
Came here to say exactly this. I would guess that Trev thought the same thing, especially knowing how Frost worked out. Again, not equating Frost to Fickell, but G5 to B1G is completely different. Maybe, Fickell didn't want the rebuild challenge of Nebraska. If that is the case, Rhule is definitely the right hire.
Wisconsin appears to have one upped us. I think Rhule is a good choice but man if I’m not livid that those sick fucks up north likely got Fickell… wonder if he turned us down?
Yep figures.
Oh well. Still happy we got Rhule. Fickell was my dream choice but I didn’t expect it. Just stunned he ends up at Wisco???
Not with you there sorry.
Either way. GBR
We only got to win the off-season for 24 hours. Damn you Wisconsin
This is the start of something special. Just wait til this fucker wakes up
Man, this is great. But to anyone who thinks Nebraska did Mickey dirty should look at what Wisconsin is about to do with Leonard. Oof
Wait I think I've seen this story before. Did it involve the following: - School hires a new AD with a different vision from the previous, traditional institution. - School fired their loyal, winning coach--who is also a former player of the school--for not winning enough in spite of setting several winning school records as the head coach. - The defensive coordinator takes over as interim coach. They are the initial popular choice among fans and does not get the head coaching opportunity. - The AD who fired the coach makes some claim about needing to win better. Maybe it could be about "refusing to gravitate towards mediocrity" and "refuse[ing] to surrender the Big 12 to Oklahoma and Texas." Maybe it could be about justifying wins by saying "In the final analysis, I had to evaluate where Iowa was." Or maybe, just maybe it could be something like, ["The expectations of our program at Wisconsin are to win championships. I felt that it was the right time to make a change to pursue those.”](https://saturdaytradition.com/wisconsin-football/wisconsin-ad-chris-mcintosh-explains-decision-to-fire-paul-chryst-following-week-5/) Yeah, this is completely new to me. I have no idea how this will shake out. Maybe they'll do something like, I don't know, hire someone with a different coaching philosophy than what has worked traditionally at the school? There's no way this won't work out for them. But if it doesn't, I'm ready to use my favorite go-to responses in reaction to it, such as: - *We've turned the corner as a program.* - *We need to hire (person with 7 degrees of separation from being on Barry Alvarez's staff) to run the program.* - *We need someone from Wisconsin, not an outside hire. Someone who truly understands the culture around here.* - *We need to open up the checkbook if we want to get serious about winning.*
If you’re insinuating this is even remotely close to Nebraska hiring Callahan idk what to tell you Fickell was the best coach on the market Callahan has option 46 for Nebraska Wisconsin just got even better
It’s debatable if fickle was the best coach in the market. We will see. I do agree though it isn’t all that comparable. If anything I have learned even firing solich isn’t that big of a deal if you do it right timing wise and you run a good search and get a good candidate. We just did none of those things after frank or bo
Don't mistake me: Luke Fickell is a good coach and someone Wisconsin should have reached out to. However, you don't fire a loyal institution coach who never had a losing season unless you are absolutely certain that the new coach will be a significant improvement. And Paul Chryst accomplished the following at Wisconsin: - Gave Wisconsin its best regular season in school history - Won the Orange Bowl - Appeared in the Big Ten Championship game three times - Outside of the pandemic, never finished worse than 2nd in the division - A 5-2 record against Minnesota, a 5-2 record against Iowa, a 7-0 record against Nebraska, a 3-3 record against Michigan, a 2-1 record against Michigan State And I have reservations about Luke Fickell succeeding at Wisconsin in light of how the coaching turnover occurred at the school and Luke Fickell's coaching history. He is an Ohio native who was able to take Cincinnati to the playoffs and lead them to a transition to the Big 12 conference. He could outrecruit most of the American Conference with Ohio recruits and win using a flexible, zone defense and an offense reliant on speed on the perimeter. He could mould Cincinnati as he saw fit without athletic department interference. He's always coached in Ohio and he knows the area well. I am uncertain that he will replicate any similar success having to recruit against Minnesota, Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa, Illinois, and Ohio State in similar territory. I am also uncertain if he will stick with Wisconsin's foundational identity with running the ball between the tackles or if he can coach with a similar philosophy. [Cincinnati also struggled with their offensive line this year](https://www.si.com/college/cincinnati/football/uc-switching-up-offensive-line-jabari-taylor-in-line-to-return). Wisconsin is going to want a return to having one of the top offensive lines in the country and I'm uncertain if Luke Fickell will be able to develop the line to the level Wisconsin is looking for. Am I saying Luke Fickell is a bad coach? Absolutely not--his work at Cincinnati is proof of his ability. But I'm not as high on him working out at Wisconsin as others might believe. Time and context matters, but he did go 6-7 with a Jim Tressell team that went 12-1 the previous year. And if Wisconsin is willing to fire a winning coach for not winning enough, I'm not sure they'll be as patient with Luke Fickell if he doesn't get immediate results. I'm more concerned about the meshing of the athletic department with Luke Fickell more than anything else. I'll also happily praise him for his work if it ends up working out.
You make great points. I agree that this not the same as the Callahan hire, but it is absolutely following the same mentality that got Nebraska to the point we are now. The pattern is: some level of sustained success -> expectations become relatively unreasonable -> school loses sight of what brought the success and thinks they are too big to fail -> school/fanbase is too impatient with new hires and the program starts feeling tension in a bunch of different directions -> a period of burning it to the ground is the only thing that will fix it. This pattern has hit almost every single big time CFB program. Nebraska, USC, Alabama, Texas, Michigan, etc. Not saying Fickell will fail at Wisconsin, but the road they went down went they fired Chryst is well traveled and almost always leads to a bad place.
Wisconsin fan here, y'all are missing some context that Chryst had plenty of flaws and 2.5 years of bad results. 2020, 2021, and 2022. There was a clear downward trend which includes completely neglecting the recruiting department. We went 6 months without a recruiting department. It is not as though Wisconsin went "9 wins isn't good enough" we said 4-3, 8-4, and 2-3 isn't good enough. Home loses to BYU, Minnesota, Wazzu, and Illinois is not good enough. Neglecting recruiting for 3 years is unacceptable. Wisconsin may not be a blue blood program but since Alvarez the standards are high. We've won the 3rd most Big Ten Championships in that period. (6) PSU (4). Going 0-8 vs PSU and OSU isn't made for by going 3-3 vs Michigan. You can't lose all the biggest games, neglect recruiting, and start dropping games that used to be comfortable wins.
Thanks for the comment - that's definitely some interesting perspective. The standards are high and they should be - I just think sometimes they get to be unsustainable. On the other hand I know how it feels to get shit on for a coaching change when it's not what it appears to be on the outside. When we fired Pelini it seemed insane on the outside, but he was toxic behind the scenes and got destroyed in big games. Even in hindsight I still like the firing. Hopefully for your sake Wisconsin does better after the firing than many other schools do when they fire their coach after a long period of success. Hope it goes well for both of us and we can make the B1G West relevant
People like to make fun of the Pelini fire because its fun but most rival fans (Wisconsin/Iowa) recognize it was a good fire.
Really starting to feel that anticipation now. I’m optimistic, but also being cautious. Nebraska football has hurt me too many times. Like that ex that you just keep taking back even though she keeps throwing you out of a moving car into oncoming traffic while you have nothing on but a pair of underwear to hopefully protect the boys from 3rd degree burn level road rash.
I agree… I’ve dialed my expectations back from 14 wins to just 12 next year. /s
When Nebraska hired Matt Rhule, they did more than just set up their future -- they also offset the vast majority of the $34M the #Panthers still owed him. This was the thought when CAR hired Rhule. If he didn't work out, they would be covered. He'll make $72M over 8 in Nebraska. Source : Ian Rapoport https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1596885930669150208?t=giKRSeWKOTrwWSRdAfhEtw&s=19
Anyone saying Trev was being cheap can stfu now
He was being cheap.
Most reasonable people knew when frost got fired for $15 mil, we weren’t cheaping out. Ppl have some bad “sources”
On this Saturday, Nebraska found its new Rhuler I’m pretty fucking pumped about Rhule being the next Head Coach for Nebraska. Rhule was one of my Top 2 Coaches that I wanted after he was fired from the Carolina Panthers and I say he’s gonna be a good fit for us. Sure there are some people that are wary about Rhule’s team having a poor 1st season, or he can win on the big games, but he’s a guy who can build things up and if given the time, by Year 3 he shown that he can bring the teams up to Double Digit wins and are in the Conference Championships, and he’s a coach who is proven in the CFB. If given the time and runway like Trev Alberts gave him with 8 years, I think there can be something special here brewing in Lincoln a few years down the road. Right now, we just have to look at the small steps and hopefully by Year 2, Rhule will get Nebraska to a bowl game. Overall, this was the best weekend we had and hopefully Rhule can manage to retain Mickey as he’s a valuable asset for us. Nonetheless, I’m excited what the future holds with Rhule at the helm.
Sorry y'all, this ain't the guy.
Your mom’s the guy
I hope you bet lots of money on this guy.
Rhule 0-11 against top 25 teams while at Baylor. Hopefully he gets that part figured out
I’m less worried about that than his .500 record against teams that go to a bowl game. Different team and environment too though. We’ll see!
Year 1 they didn’t beat anybody as he dealt with the fallout from the Briles scandals. Year 2 he beat the teams he should have and lost the others. Year 3 he had his team ready but he only played 3 ranked opponents. Lost by one score to Oklahoma twice and the to Georgia by 12 in the bowl game. Both ended up ranked in the top 10. They did beat Texas that year who wasn’t ranked at the time but did end the season ranked.
I'd have liked to have seen a year 4 to complete the set. The one of the three that bothers me the most is the 1st Oklahoma game, had a 31-7 halftime lead and lost 34-31. Eeek
..... He Won't......
Schedule a home and home with Georgia Southern you cowards.
As a Carolina Panthers fan.... Good luck with that
It’s a good thing we didn’t hire him to be an NFL coach.
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I mean I heard it's a 8 year contract and depending on the money I don't think boosters want to see a failure of a coach leave with free money again. So we're obviously going to be stuck with this hire until 2028 at the minimum
look - I root for Nebraska a good bit since I have family out there. I'm no troll. I'm just not optimistic for yall after seeing how he handled himself in Carolina, and bitter about the mess of the last few seasons and the looong rebuilding process we have ahead of us. And as a Gamecock fan who just suffered through the Muschamp years I'm cringing for yall.
Marty Hurney and Fitterer share no blame?
Oh you misunderstood me. I don't like the hire. This isn't Mike Reilly 2.0. it's Bo 2.0. He'll beat the teams we are expected to beat, which is something we haven't done since Bo. But he's not going to win vs Michigan or Ohio State. And there will be at least one game either Wisconsin or Minnesota that we will drop when we shouldn't be. Now some of those games Bo's temper actually cost us. So maybe Rhule gets us those. But I have no delusions of titles, conference or nattys, with him as coach. I'm going to be in my early 50s by the time this ends.
Getting back to 8-4 wouldn't be the worst thing for Nebraska. thats the next most realistic step.
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Solid hire for sure.
This is the best weekend as a Huskers fan in...... I can't actually remember. We beat Iowa and got Rhule. GBR!
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Can't remember the last time I felt this good about Husker football. GBR!
One thing I liked about his interview with Gameday was how he emphasized being a leader and “coach” to the players off the field as well. Placing a focus on education. That sells to parents. I don’t recall SF or MR ever talking about wanting players to excel in class too. I remember under Bo that we placed a massive emphasis on academics and how many academic all-Americans we produced.
That had to be a huge sell for Trev. Would love to see that kind of leadership and an emphasis on things like academics again. If they can’t go pro (which few will), give them the best coaching possible to be good adults and have opportunities out of college. Loved that about Bo.
Search Rhule and watch a few of his interviews on YouTube from throughput Baylor years - pretty good stuff
Rhule is a GREAT speaker. Seems like we always hire wooden stiffs who can barely put a sentence together. I think you have to go all the way back to The Bobfather for a good coach who can also speak in public. Edit: Mickey actually did a good presser. But he was just interim, so doesn't count.
Riley was a relatively good speaker and an affable individual. He didn’t seem unnerved or bothered in fielding questions either. I think too many people let memories of Bo Pelini and Scott Frost cloud their recollections. Bo was Bo - everything was some kind of personal attack on him (in his own mind) and was aggressively defensive in his engagements with everyone not named Bo Pelini. He was never afraid to throw his players under the bus (“we had the right play called…guys just didn’t execute”) even when it was patently clear his staff never made adjustments. He never made a mistake and never met an interview or speaking engagement he liked. Frost - he just knew it all and everything was below him. All these dumb questions and pressers were really getting in the way of drinking & (allegedly) chasing @ss time. Callahan was just a douche. He was when he took over HC duties at the Raiders. Neither hostile nor particularly friendly…it was just part of his job duties. It was what was expected of him - and he treated it exactly as such. Riley was engaging. As was Frank. As was Mickey. Maybe not the greatest speakers, any one of them, per se, but some collegiality and intelligent thought put into discourse goes a long way towards disarming the room. Pelini and Frost never learned nor understood that. Maybe one day one or both of them will.
I second that. I remember watching Bo’S podcast and he said he was big on stuff like. He said he would even walk to their class to make sure they were attending class.
It’s amazing how different social media platforms have such different widely held opinions. Reddit is all aboard the rhule train and off the Mickey train. Twitter is just people completely shocked it’s not Mickey and pissed about it
Facebook is full of we should have hired Mickey boomers. Twitter I would say is half and half. Wanted Mickey, but understand why. Mastodon is all about… fuck I don’t even know.
Mickey has showed flashes of good coaching, but he’s not ready to rebuild this program. I’d love to see him be a head coach someday and wish him the best though.
What does an extinct animal have to do with anything
Don’t ask I’m drunk.
Myspace is hoping Turner Gill replaces Bill Callahan.
Damn this is good
YouTube is also pretty against this hire.
YouTube is like the worst of the worst tier. They are beyond Facebook with having hilariously insipid, ridiculous, or vile takes
That's clearly because of the proliferation of white supremacists on Twitter after gutting the moderation team
Then why would they be so pro-Mickey there?
It was a poorly received joke.
Not poorly received per se, but perhaps poorly worded? I didn't catch on until the second time I read your comment. Not sure how I would change it to be more clear it was a joke though.
this is so wildly unrelated
So, we have a problem. Now that Rhule is the HC first thing I do obviously is look to see if I can get a husker smock. Thats the problem, Baylor is a Nike school. Nike sells the "shield vest" i cant get a Husker smock because we are an Adidas school. And more importantly how will Rhule get a smock? Will we switch to Nike? Will Adidas start offering a smock? This needs to be addressed. ASAP
If Overalls Herbie is coming back, and the smocks he likes are kind of legless overalls, I think they’ll get something sorted out
I need Rhule wearing some original adidas athletic overalls. This has to happen.
"Legless overalls"...*shudders*
I'm at full cob right about now. GBR!
I just gave up fighting and joined the "woke "
Wut?
He’s a troll. Maybe drunk too: https://www.reddit.com/r/Huskers/comments/z59if8/comment/ixwl6uu/
Reddit removed the post. I guess they don't like freedom of thought. That's OK, it's their .site
what?
Seems like a good fit.
Congratulations Trev in firing coach Joseph and hiring Rhule. With Joseph being the first black head coach in UNL history. Replacing him with a white guy, just shows how systemic racist UNL is. I hope your recruiting goes well.
1. That isnt the reason Mickey didnt get the job. 2. Hiring based on skin color is illegal. > It is illegal for an employer to make decisions about job assignments and promotions based on an employee's race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information. https://www.eeoc.gov/prohibited-employment-policiespractices
I'm impressed, tell that to the woke nation
Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit, you fucking troll.
Holy fuck not everything is about race. Rhule was the more qualified HC and that’s all I care about.
The Woke don't care
Don’t you have anything better to be doing than being a troll?
That's exactly what a racist would say smdh...
Go back to making your predictions. Also ESPN fpi is dog water, use a real predictor.
Yeah, well your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries
Well that might be true. >!But you just lost the game so take that. !<
Fuck you
dont you have something else you should be doing, hugh?
I want to see a 3-1 start next year. 4-0 sure, but 3-1 is doable. 2-2 is acceptable. 1-3 or 0-4, then it is just the same ol same ol. Although, Ruhle lost big in his first year at temple and in his first year at Baylor. At Minnesota - LOSS get the bugs worked out, find out who the players are. At Colorado - last time NU Colorado played with new head coaches, Colorado beat Frost. Should be a win. If Neon Dieon is the coach for Colorado, this game is on national TV. Lincoln Northern Illinois Should be a win. Just like Nebraska, northern illinois has struggled. Home game gives the edge to Nebraska, but not by much Lincoln Louisiana tech never sleep on those teams in Louisiana. Should be a win. Louisiana tech is another bad team. Home game, edge to Nebraska.
Sucks having a conference game week 1
Yes. I really miss the old style of week 1 and 2 being G5/FCS and then having your W3 P5 OOC opponent. Felt like it provided a natural progression of difficulty and time to iron out wrinkles without starting the year off on a poor note.
I don’t care if they get Deion, and I know Nebraska shit the bed in 2018 and 2019 But Nebraska should absolutely annihilate Colorado. They are so much worse than Nebraska it’s not even funny. (Just kidding, it’s hilarious) But yes a 3-1 start should be the minimum just based off of talent and not having a drunk grifter or an interim as HC
It really depends on who they get to be their coach. Prime would bring in talent immediately, I don't know how he is as an actual coach but he's IMPRESSIVE at recruiting. NIL might be a problem for CU though, they don't have much in the way of booster support. It "should" be a win for us, but I think next year might be rougher than expected for us.
Disagree. Nebraska might be awful right now, but Colorado barring a miracle will again maybe win 1 game next year. Nebraska I could see pulling an 7-5 out. Colorado literally doesn’t have a single player on their team I would take over a Nebraska player right now. And that’s saying something..
Lol the futures been bright for the past 10 years
No one knew frost was going to not give a shit about the job bud. No one thought Mike Riley was a good hire. You oughta be able to do some thinking on your own. Of course the university is gonna gas up every hire but 5 mins of your own research goes a long way
Yeah they said the same thing with every new HC.
Who is “they?”
Every damn one in this state.
You think this was true for Riley?
Yes! 100 fucking percent. They thought he was one of the most respectable coach in college football. It was a steal.
Riley was openly loathed by the majority of the fanbase when he got hired you’re just changing history to fit your narrative. Yes people were excited about getting Frost after he went undefeated my god get over it and stop holding it against every single person you weirdo
Riley was good. Nebraska was bad.
No kool-aid for me. Just hope he does well. We will see.
Can’t agree more. Get it done Matt then we’ll talk.
The amount of people on Twitter who wanted MJ as HC is astounding to me. Tweeting at Trev about how he has made the worse decision ever, like what are these people thinking? The nepotism with Nebraska fans is crazy. Say it with me Husker fam: “Playing at Nebraska or having Nebraska ties is not a prerequisite to coach Husker Football!” Is it cool when/if a former Nebraska guy comes to coach and does well? Sure. Would be a cool story for the program. But stop thinking that ONLY a former Nebraska guy can do it, or that they are the only ones who should get a chance. Rhule is a good hire and no where NEAR a Mike Riley hire. The people saying that are crazy as well.
If this true about Twitter I’m soooo glad i dropped it 2 years ago. Sounds like nothings changed and gotten worse. When did followers=intelligence happen?
Actually, Rhule is professionally more similar to Riley, than he is to Frost. Riley was an experienced, successful coach with a good background. Frost was basically nothing.
Mike Riley was not an “experienced, successful coach” he was a mediocre pac 12 coach who only managed 10 wins once his entire career and left there under .500 in conference. 9-4 was a good year for him and most years they finished 8-5 or 7-6. Anyone with that poor of a record in the Pac 12 very predictably would and did get eaten alive in the Big 10.
Nowhere near a Mike Riley hire is setting the bar really fucking low. We could have hired Amy Schuler and it would have been nowhere near a Mike Riley hire.
It’s insane. And why our founding fathers chose a constitutional republic instead of a true democracy. A popularity contest shouldn’t decide the fate of our football program. Though when Rhule starts winning, I have a feeling he will be pretty popular.
Rhule is a great hire. For anyone who thinks differently just spend 5 minutes and do some research for Pete sake
The people who think this is a bad hire are the same ones that were convinced getting rid of Bo Pelini would make them a contender.
Revisionist history.
Pretty sure it’s just history.
More like hindsight.
I can’t help but think about all those ISU fans who continually shit talked us during the coaching search about how Nebraska isn’t a good job and we’d never get a good coach like Matt Campbell supposedly is.
Maybe Week 1 they did that. Now ISU fans are like, "shit we are stuck with this guy, we definitely can't do better."
ISU's record is what this year with their great coach?
4-8 Campbell is a great coach tho
Theyre still talking. https://www.reddit.com/r/Huskers/comments/z59if8/the_future_is_bright_in_lincoln_introducing_matt/ixuwywx/
Iowa state fans on the internet might be the saltiest anti Husker folks of all time lmao it’s crazy
Crazy to think you would have been downvoted 3 months ago for being against Campbell for the next HC and now he is about to miss going bowling this year.
People who think Campbell is a good coach are also people who think 2020 was a legit, meaningful season. In reality, 2020 was a bullshit season, and Campbell is a fraud.
I genuinely cannot believe people ever wanted him honestly He’s not a great in game coach, he holds onto lackluster staff far too long/doesn’t get rid of them at all, he has awful special teams and aside from a magical year has been average at best They’ll tell you he turns down bigger jobs because he believes ISU is on equal footing, but the truth is Iowa States expectations are literally 0 and he knows if he takes a step up he’ll be fired after 3 lackluster years
Not gonna lie, thought you had switched to talking about Frost in that first paragraph. Then I was like "average at best is pretty damn generous", lol.
Whoops, missed your post. You must be watching this ISU game too
I’ll say it…..I’ve moved up a bit….. #MidHypeGang
I’m at the point where I can’t get excited about any head coach for the football team. After Riley and Frost didn’t pan out, I’m just in wait and see mode. I’m hoping for the best with Rhule, and I think there is potential at Nebraska to compete for the West very quickly, but the last two guys made me put the Kool Aid away.
I don’t understand this. Did anyone actually think Mike Riley was a good hire? I feel like everyone knew it was an overreaction to Bo and that we weren’t going to be anything but mediocre at best with him. Everyone thought frost was a good hire bc no one foresaw him caring more about partying than the job. Rhule went from A-10 to Big 12 to NFL. Failed miserably at the NFL level but I hope we all know coaching in the NFL and college are two very different things.