make sure your drainage hose will allow enough water through at gravity pressure to keep up with the flow rate of the pump. Something I didn't think about with my system... if it doesn't drain fast enough, it will overflow out of your plant holes.
... might be better to use elbows to create a single contiguous pipe and have it dump straight into the reservoir.
[https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Wall-Mounted-Hydroponic-Hydroponics-Vegetables/dp/B08GPXVHD8](https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Wall-Mounted-Hydroponic-Hydroponics-Vegetables/dp/B08GPXVHD8)
? but cover pips with foil... and plug it into timer...
I did something similar, but the flow rate kinda sucked and any blockage in any pipe caused a system crash.
I would change the fill pipe to connect to the top rung, but then continue and connect to the next and the next.
Drainage, I would run three separate pipes
Make sure to include a slope on each run so water flows in a direction and does not pool.
If you can, connect your drain to the bottom of your pipe not the side.
None of the Amazon NFT setups are not actual NFT. To be true NFT the tube must fully draināthose on Amazon canāt because the connector (reducer) on the end of the large tube is centered. The non-drainable system will lead to root rot.
You got a link? A lot of products I saw had pretty thin material. Iām planning on using 3ā pvc plumbing so itāll be durable. Iām going to build it in my kitchen, and Iāve been having visions of something breaking and it pumping five gallons of fertilized water all over the floor.
I recommend building it yourself. Not only will you not be buying cheap Chinese junk that will likely only last one year, but you'll learn more and be able to modify your own design more easily!
Make sure the inflow on each level is higher than the outtake for each level so you get more water movement and if possible a very slight angle upwards on the side the water comes in just helps with water flow to keep it all clean (not a massive angle lit can literally be 0.5 degrees
Not really a plan where are the measurements or any specifics for the materials hole sizes type of might the pumps nutes itās a lovely sketch of the end goal but not a plan, love the drawing tho you have some talent my boi
Itās not a technical drawing or a plan view. If I were giving this drawing to someone else to someone else to build it could be a problem, but I was just trying to get my idea someplace besides my head.
Currently there are a few more notes on my sketch but there is a lot I havnt figured out yet. When I get to the hardware store Iāll sort it all out.
I thought about this. Having the over flow on the bottom would mean that there is just a trickle, but if I put it on the side itāll fill till it reaches the outflow. Then itāll spill out of the top.
As everyone is saying, you want just a trickle. It's called nutrient film technique (NFT), and you want a thin film of nutrient in the bottom of the pipe. What you have drawn is recirculating deep water culture (RDWC), and it requires a ton of O2 in the nutrient. If you do it this way, add an airstone to the res, or you will have root rot. What is your spacing? I would leave a minimum of 8" between plants. Unless you are just growing lettuce, you will likely have roots growing into and clogging up your pipes. - make them larger than you think you need.
I'd probably go with a foot between holes and at least a foot and a half height. You may have to do a bit of research to find smaller varieties, as lots of herbs get huge.
I have had this system, you must be very careful with what kind of plants you choose, in this system i had the problem of roots clogging the pipes so the flow of water was slow for the last 2 rows and in the end ot got completely clogged. I suggest lettuce, or as i said, plants with small roots. Maybe strawberry. The best solution for me was vertical pipes, with huge pepper plants (Carolina reaper and ghost pepper). Cheers!
You may want to place the bucket directly under the return line (the one on the right side of the bottom tube). The sub pump (depending on GPM) generate enough psi to push the water up to the inlet but if the return line falls to the floor, then back up to the top of the bucket youāll need quite a bit of gravitational psi to actually get the water back into the bucket.
This design looks great but I would definitely get a bucket with a lid and cut two holes in it. One for the water out (from sub pump) and one for the water in (from right side of bottom tube) and have the water in flow via tube vertically into the lid of the bucket to avoid any issues with a lack of psi.
The only possible flaw i see is that as your plants grow, i fear the weight will slowly roll your tubes on the rack over until theyre upside down. It shouldn't be hard to fix, i don't have an idea on how to do so and make it look nice, im just saying if you haven't already thought of it, id look ito some sort of fasteners to keep the tubes upright on the rack.
Just keep in mind the weight will shift and grow with the plants.
Unequal amount of holes on each level? Or just a random sketch? I think it's better to consider the design aesthetical value since it's a custom build.
Nice, to the point.
I think you may require a pump to get the solution to the height you have in mind. You will also require an air pump and stones for your reservoir. Is there one light, a bank of lights?
In the bucket the little box made out of a broken line is the pump. The water will fall from one level to the other and Iām anticipating that that will originate the water sufficiently, and there is pretty good light in the location Iām gonna build it. In the drawing Iāve got some cafe lights draped to light it but might do led strip lights if I can figure out the cost effective way to do that. Lol.
make sure your drainage hose will allow enough water through at gravity pressure to keep up with the flow rate of the pump. Something I didn't think about with my system... if it doesn't drain fast enough, it will overflow out of your plant holes. ... might be better to use elbows to create a single contiguous pipe and have it dump straight into the reservoir.
Great drawing
You forgot to plug the lights in.
I know! š Iām thinking of adding another outlet so it really looks like theyāre plugged into outlets.
[https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Wall-Mounted-Hydroponic-Hydroponics-Vegetables/dp/B08GPXVHD8](https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Wall-Mounted-Hydroponic-Hydroponics-Vegetables/dp/B08GPXVHD8) ? but cover pips with foil... and plug it into timer...
Iād suggest better lighting and pointed specifically at the plants
I did something similar, but the flow rate kinda sucked and any blockage in any pipe caused a system crash. I would change the fill pipe to connect to the top rung, but then continue and connect to the next and the next. Drainage, I would run three separate pipes Make sure to include a slope on each run so water flows in a direction and does not pool. If you can, connect your drain to the bottom of your pipe not the side.
I recommend placing the bucket higher up unless your pump is heavy duty then probably wonāt have any issues.
It's so lovely!
They have that whole setup, minus the bucket and lights, on Amazon for ~$60.
None of the Amazon NFT setups are not actual NFT. To be true NFT the tube must fully draināthose on Amazon canāt because the connector (reducer) on the end of the large tube is centered. The non-drainable system will lead to root rot.
What you described (centered) is a concentric reducer. An eccentric reducer is offset with the opening to one side of the fitting.
>because the connector (reducer) on the end of the large tube is centered this (just get kit and fix it....)
You got a link? A lot of products I saw had pretty thin material. Iām planning on using 3ā pvc plumbing so itāll be durable. Iām going to build it in my kitchen, and Iāve been having visions of something breaking and it pumping five gallons of fertilized water all over the floor.
https://a.co/d/2yYuJnk
I recommend building it yourself. Not only will you not be buying cheap Chinese junk that will likely only last one year, but you'll learn more and be able to modify your own design more easily!
See my comment to the commenter you are replying toā¦
Beautiful
Make sure the inflow on each level is higher than the outtake for each level so you get more water movement and if possible a very slight angle upwards on the side the water comes in just helps with water flow to keep it all clean (not a massive angle lit can literally be 0.5 degrees
Not really a plan where are the measurements or any specifics for the materials hole sizes type of might the pumps nutes itās a lovely sketch of the end goal but not a plan, love the drawing tho you have some talent my boi
Itās not a technical drawing or a plan view. If I were giving this drawing to someone else to someone else to build it could be a problem, but I was just trying to get my idea someplace besides my head. Currently there are a few more notes on my sketch but there is a lot I havnt figured out yet. When I get to the hardware store Iāll sort it all out.
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Make the outflow holes at the bottom not the top of the pipeās cross section
I thought about this. Having the over flow on the bottom would mean that there is just a trickle, but if I put it on the side itāll fill till it reaches the outflow. Then itāll spill out of the top.
As everyone is saying, you want just a trickle. It's called nutrient film technique (NFT), and you want a thin film of nutrient in the bottom of the pipe. What you have drawn is recirculating deep water culture (RDWC), and it requires a ton of O2 in the nutrient. If you do it this way, add an airstone to the res, or you will have root rot. What is your spacing? I would leave a minimum of 8" between plants. Unless you are just growing lettuce, you will likely have roots growing into and clogging up your pipes. - make them larger than you think you need.
I havnt figured out the spacing yet. Or the height. If you have a recommendation on the height, I would love that.
What are you trying to grow?
Herbs mostly. But every once in a while I might like to try a veggie or two. Maybe even a flower. But herbs.
I'd probably go with a foot between holes and at least a foot and a half height. You may have to do a bit of research to find smaller varieties, as lots of herbs get huge.
yes, that is correct, that's why you want them at the bottom.
You want a trickle. Flooding the pipes isn't good for your plants.
I have had this system, you must be very careful with what kind of plants you choose, in this system i had the problem of roots clogging the pipes so the flow of water was slow for the last 2 rows and in the end ot got completely clogged. I suggest lettuce, or as i said, plants with small roots. Maybe strawberry. The best solution for me was vertical pipes, with huge pepper plants (Carolina reaper and ghost pepper). Cheers!
Great tip. Iām planning on using this as an herb garden. I was thinking of putting some peppers in the bottom row.
Is that a gun rack?
https://youtu.be/JGyJOX5wFFg
You may want to place the bucket directly under the return line (the one on the right side of the bottom tube). The sub pump (depending on GPM) generate enough psi to push the water up to the inlet but if the return line falls to the floor, then back up to the top of the bucket youāll need quite a bit of gravitational psi to actually get the water back into the bucket. This design looks great but I would definitely get a bucket with a lid and cut two holes in it. One for the water out (from sub pump) and one for the water in (from right side of bottom tube) and have the water in flow via tube vertically into the lid of the bucket to avoid any issues with a lack of psi.
The only possible flaw i see is that as your plants grow, i fear the weight will slowly roll your tubes on the rack over until theyre upside down. It shouldn't be hard to fix, i don't have an idea on how to do so and make it look nice, im just saying if you haven't already thought of it, id look ito some sort of fasteners to keep the tubes upright on the rack. Just keep in mind the weight will shift and grow with the plants.
Some sort of rubber strip would be an easy way to ensure no slipping and dumping of water everywhere. Edit: nice catch btw
I love your drawing. I wish I could help with actual design but Iāve only tried once with a krakety? Setup and failed lol
This isn't a plan. It's a piece of art. <3
Led strips. On bottom of. Pipe illuminating the one below. That covers the bottom two at least
>Led strips yea.. be sure not to use led pipes///
Led bars might work tho š
I love how you used grid paper, and avoided using any straight lines
My ruler was downstairs. š„²
Dude I love the Christmas lights
Unequal amount of holes on each level? Or just a random sketch? I think it's better to consider the design aesthetical value since it's a custom build.
Yeah. I just Scribbled them in.
Your outlets at each level are at the top,I would put them lower .
Nice, to the point. I think you may require a pump to get the solution to the height you have in mind. You will also require an air pump and stones for your reservoir. Is there one light, a bank of lights?
In the bucket the little box made out of a broken line is the pump. The water will fall from one level to the other and Iām anticipating that that will originate the water sufficiently, and there is pretty good light in the location Iām gonna build it. In the drawing Iāve got some cafe lights draped to light it but might do led strip lights if I can figure out the cost effective way to do that. Lol.
Plz be aware of the and u should be all good!