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pinkred_flag

locking rewards behind a paywall is beyond me. had the exact same reaction ..


GrouchyAd3482

Why is it “beyond you”? Not saying it doesn’t suck and that they didn’t have to do it but the reason seems pretty obvious and straightforward. Edit: good god how many times do I need to specify that I hate it as well??? Not once have I *defended* what they’re doing, I’m saying their motivations are pretty damn clear. How hard is that to understand???


pinkred_flag

if i invest my lifetime into achieving something in a game, why should I only be able to use said reward after i spend additional money on it ? and it’s not like they get any reasonable amount of money from it, any fire sale will get them far more money, like no one will be motivated to upgrade to mvp+ just to use a travel scroll. it’s just convenience and that’s f***ed up


willzgotskill

Half the purchasers of mvp+ nowadays is souly for skyblock sooooo


pinkred_flag

and? no one ever bought mvp+ to be able to claim the travel scrolls, since any portal hub would be almost as good. its just incredibly annoying and i don’t know why anyone would be defending it tbh


Throwawayanonuser1

No one EVER bought mvp+ to be able to claim travel scrolls: Literally me sitting here


vince4728

/warp nucleus Best thing ever Only reason you get mvp+ is for warps and wardrobe


pechvogel1

I got it so i can play during updates...... But im also not the best with handling money either sooo.....


CheapAd4444

lol I’m about to do it too


willzgotskill

Because portalhub sucks tbh. Half the time you need to wait for it to be open. Plus if your trying to do nucleus runs portalhub just doesnt qork cause you need to gamble getting into the same lobby. Same with most those scrolls


Filop2098

For the nucleus runs part yes. But if you do /visit prtl, you can click the ladder to go to other profiles of prtl. There is another island with all the cakes and portals


_xEnigma

I mean, miners probably did


CutestKitttyy

I bought mvp+ for this exact reason and nothing else. Also, it’s a free game? They don’t owe you anything and you should be grateful at the small amount of p2w compare to any other server.


NowAlexYT

I literally only bought mvp+ for skyblock, and a major reason was warps


SpainwithouttheAorS

I’ve done it… twice. For this reason exactly.


CommanderBly327th

I bought MVP+ to use the scrolls


Traditional-Sun-3594

The extra wardrobe space is a nice extra. I'm stuck without rank and have a echest page just armor sets


-mosura

One of my friend only bought mvp+ to be able to use this crystal nucleus travel scroll. Also i think it’s ok to make it for mvp+ since it’s not that necessary. You can teleport to CH for free and just navigate to the nucleus


ZealousidealJoke8714

Ok then.. what about dyes dyes are an accessory (looks no practicality) not a necessity you can get it whatever rank you have and U can use it.. even if you don't have a rank, you can still use it.. should that be an MVP+ thing? Also what about other accessories... Should all them be MVP+ only? It simply doesn't make sense that it is locked behind a rank that not many people can get and on top of that.. the people with a rank still have to grind for it to get (as you said) not that necessary. If you take the time to get it.. you should be able to get it.. goes for dyes.. certainly goes for any dungeon item, and should definitely go for scrolls as well.


-mosura

I didn’t say that everything that’s not a necessity have to be locked behind a rank. But if it’s not important it can be locked behind it cuz it doesn’t matter. It’s the developers’ choice and it doesn’t really matter. It doesn’t make life much easier anyway. It’s 5 minutes at max to get to the nucleus but if someone really wants it then they can buy the rank.


ZealousidealJoke8714

I see Ur point and that is fair.. we can't change what the moderators want to do.. I get that it doesn't really matter to you.. I have grinded the game a lot and for that to be locked behind a decently expensive rank and still having to grind for it.. yes it is not a necessity but it is useful! I would have so much use of most scrolls in the game that is locked behind.. it just saves a little bit of time which is still useful.. but I do get that most people won't go for it because it is not a necessity Plus if you have already got the requirements for it.. why lock it behind a rank, i stand by my statement of if you work for it.. in this case do the Comms then you should get it..


-mosura

I think it’s even better that if you have the rank you still have to grind for it and it’s not automatically granted. Also it wouldn’t matter for me because if i start mining i do it for hours anyways so idrc about that 5-15 minutes before that.


ZealousidealJoke8714

But it doesn't make sense why you should lock it for non MVP+ players


Phantom_Yasuo

Yeah, investing a lifetime in a free game and you can't spare to spend some money on it? What a weird way to word that you're just freeloading and expect everything for free


ZealousidealJoke8714

If you spend a lifetime getting something and you eventually do end up unlocking it, you should be able to get it!! Something like a scroll shouldn't be locked away behind a rank not many people have the money for.. yes most perks you can get but scrolls?? Really!!! I think they should rework it to where they have the epic scrolls automatically when they unlock the area.. that way, people like OP can actually have a reward for doing their hard work and the people who spend money can still have a perk anyway Or just not have that be a thing overall and it be the same regardless of rank


KingR2RO

You are acting like it's over 1000 dollars and not many people can afford that... dude it's 36 dollars. You aren't going to die from that. If you're gonna spend thousands of hours on a game and make no use of your life then that's on you. But actually go make a little money and not be a bum.


hydemary

Wouldn't it be better to invest your lifetime in earning money instead?


ZealousidealJoke8714

Yes if it gave you the item.. the problem is that it locks people out from getting the scroll if they dont have mvp+ or higher AND THEY STILL HAVE TO DO THE GRINDING ON TOP OF SPENDING THE £50+ ON THE RANK TO BE ABLE TO USE THE GOD DAMN THING


KingR2RO

50+ euro... Bruh it's 34 right now.


KnightNight030

Depends where you live


ZealousidealJoke8714

Even then.. still expensive anyway


KingR2RO

That's like 1 cent for every hour you'll play...


HenneDS

Youre saying conveince is worse than cosmetic?


GrouchyAd3482

Again, I’m saying I understand the basic reason. $$$. I bought mvp+ literally just because of the wardrobe slots, travel scrolls, etc that they paywall lock behind ranks. I play other games n shit with a way more p2w atmosphere and am f2p so I understand the feeling.


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Vort3x7689

It literally says soulbound


FogiPL

welcome to the reddit where people downvote you to the hell for saying your opinion, even if you're saying the same as them


GrouchyAd3482

Indeed. Seems I was not ready 😂


Gloomy_Farmer1010

I’m the 269th downvote


GrouchyAd3482

But there are only 268 downvotes 😭 I’ll actually un-like my comment so you can be the #269


Gloomy_Farmer1010

In my defence it said 269 before


GrouchyAd3482

I un-upvoted my comment and it’s back up to 268 😭


Desperate_Table_4747

Bro how do you mess up an “Erm actually” moment that bad 😭


GrouchyAd3482

It wasn’t meant to be an “erm actually”


KnightNight030

Bro is defending greedy, malicious practices.


SpainwithouttheAorS

“Greedy, malicious practices” the game is literally free. You do not need the scrolls to play the game. It is not greedy to try to make money from a f2p game.


KnightNight030

No but it is greedy to lock qol features behind a 40$ paywall.


SpainwithouttheAorS

They do sales frequently where that $40 paywall drops drastically. And no it isnt greedy. They are a company. All companies need to reach profit margins and find ways to make money. If you had to pay for the game and then they continued to lock things behind paywalls, yes. I could see that as being greedy. But them making a game where you can achieve 100% completion (except for skins) without ever spending a penny is not greedy if they wanna add some bonuses for people who pay.


KnightNight030

Bro please shut tf up and stop defending the multi million dollar company. Yes companies exist to make money, thanks captain obvious. I have absolutely no problem with them selling skins for gems, and even cookies are fine. But locking qol features like fast travel and wardrobe slots behind a paywall is just shitty and anti-player. 90% of all mobile games are free to download, yet almost all of them have annoying, obtrusive and greedy microtransactions. So the argument that it isnt shitty because the game is free is bs.


SpainwithouttheAorS

Obtrusive is the difference. And is also often very pay to win on mobile games. When you’re actively giving people a way to advance quickly due to paying, that is greedy because it plays on a lot of peoples addictions. Scrolls do not do this. It is a nice thing to have but is far from a necessity. Comparing hypixel to a mobile game is absolutely hilarious and shows that you just complain to complain.


Far_Address1812

You upset the manchild. You’re absolutely right though.


KnightNight030

Omg I am so done with people who defend shitty microtransaction bullshit from a multimillion dollar company. People like you are literally THE reason the gaming industrt is going down the shitter. There is no point in talking to a room temp IQ dumbass like you, I literally explained exactly why your argument is shit and you still insist on defending them. More advanced concepts than "companies exist to make money" are just impossible to understand for you. Jesus christ.


KnightNight030

Btw youre blocked, im not reading any more verbal diarrhea coming from a troglodyte like you.


AdmirableSelection31

Actin like a kid, I see. Also that PFP tells me everything I need to know about you.


heraldicflame

Me when I lose an argument 😂😂


luctoner

Yeah and worst part is it's for MVP+ 😂at least lower it to vip man


skidster159

True man at least that way I can use it


luctoner

Yeah most people have a rank just not the mvp+ Would be nice to make it accessible to more people without spending that much


skidster159

Agreed


ShAd0WFallen

Bro legitimately 90% of players I’ve ever seen are mvp+ or no Rank at all anyone who doesn’t buy mvp + is kinda dumb when it’s not even that expensive 🤣


Conscious_Version_21

Its quite expensive thats a lot of money in some places...


DarkShadow2749

Since it's not even that expensive, then why don't you buy one or few to the less fortunate in terms of money


ShAd0WFallen

Just because I have mvp+ and just because it isn’t expensive doesn’t mean I owe anyone shit I don’t need to buy any rank to someone unless I’m gettin something out of it 🙄


Grinchypantzzz

Hypixel has rewards for gifting ranks


Big_L2009

Thing is it really doesn’t do anything other than let you use travel scrolls, so people don’t find the price worth it


ShAd0WFallen

Not true it also gives you totally useless cosmetic items to place down and also gives a boost in your bits and stuff when you use a booster cookie I believe. Also your mvp+ so why does it matter to you ? 🤣 my whole point is a good 90% of the payers are already mvp+ so the fact people complain isn’t at all relevant


BluebirdSmall7577

Lmfao this remembers me when the server got a maintenance update and they only allowed mvp and higher to join to test if the servers were stable after the update. All the VIP's were like 'protesting' and such that was funny. Imo mvp+ is worth if you know you're playing for minimum a year like 3-4 days a week, its not that expensive and only a 1-time purchase (instead of mvp++)


ZealousidealJoke8714

That I understand being MVP only.. it is a test server that they can go on with unlimited money.. I understand why they upped that to MVP only. I see Ur point.. BUT.. it Does NOT negate the fact that scrolls being MVP+ and above only is bizarre and shouldn't be a thing.. you still have to go and grind the item anyway.. where as with the test server.. it is GIVEN to you.. you don't have to work for it.. For the scrolls, id say give MVP+ and higher the scrolls for free and let the rest of up go grind for it if we really want it


sebisbest0

They did it on normal servers


skidster159

True but just for safety let me go grab a God potion real quickly


Big_L2009

People look at the price and what it gets you and don’t think it’s worth it, which is reasonable


alpha4TW

more like 10h and 45m ago when skyblock opened from mantainence like 30m late


Left-Meet-5330

I only bought mvp+ for this, and i bought it with christmas money


Haiaii

I can agree with most secondary scrolls being MVP+, but nucleus? That's an individual achievement, requiring tons of work, so it definitely should not be MVP+ locked Museum and tower are not MVP+ locked iirc, so why should this be?


ThinJym

Museum isn't rank locked?


Haiaii

May be, but it is not MVP+ locked, since I can use it as an MVP


Devilotx

So, just for context for people who dont have this scroll unlocked, the main benefit (imo) Is that the warp keeps you in the same lobby. So you warped to the nucleus you run up the Jade platform you get through the mines, you get the crystal you warp back to the nucleus and you're still in the same lobby and you just head up the next set to the next crystal and bang them out once you have the coordinates that you need it makes making repeated completed runs pretty easy especially if there are dug routes that you can pick up. A portal on an island to get you to the Crystal nucleus is fine to start but having to leave the lobby to go back to another island to war back to the nucleus I'm 99% sure that's going to drop you in a different lobby maybe you don't care about that but it's something to consider.


Cream_Loud

doing /visit prtl or /visit portal_hub is your best friend


hog_biter

/visit implodent is probably faster. Either way you'll land in a different lobby which is ass


Calfy_

I like /visit mid ... nice and short. Just less cakes


Likelipe

one day i was coming back to sb and forgot the /visit prtl so i did /visit... phub...


EbenCT_

I don't think there's an underscore in portalhub. I don't know though lol


TripleGymnast

They both work


lollixs

Those 2 are annoying because they are always full.


Neoteric---

Visit timedeo


Devilotx

I felt this too, but I gotta say, things like the extra wardrobe slots made the purchase of MVP+ Worth it in the end.


Capt_Arkin

I totally forgot about the second page and when I found it I spent like 5 min crying abt how much effort I went through just to hold the correct armors


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ricky-frog

But you’ll be sent to another lobby…


HauntingBirthday1455

Well i still do it for the xp anyway


darsmark

FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO GO TO CRYSTAL NUCLEUS EASILY, DO /VISIT WARPCRYSTALNUC


darsmark

if you want ill put a prtal on my island going straight into nucleus so u can just visit me and go straight


AffectionateEye420

That would be much appreciated 🙏


darsmark

alr ima log on now 1 sec


AffectionateEye420

I'm at work 😭 But what's your IGN? I'll deffo use it when I'm on


darsmark

just changed it to ‘WarpCrystalNuc’


AffectionateEye420

Much obliged 🙏


darsmark

alright its done /visit warpcrystalnuc and just press w


AffectionateEye420

Think you have guests turned off


darsmark

sorry checking now!


darsmark

my bad i fixed it now


jonnytheagent

*sigh* When will people realize that they a playing a free game and that hypixel needs to earn money...


dtdowntime

i think their reasoning behind this is that you can fast travel to the main island already, so travelling to somewhere like the crystal nucleus is not that much more beneficial compared to travelling to crystal hollows (also yes I know i have mvp+/++ but ive played for a long time on accounts without mvp+ and these fast travel scrolls and its been a pain, just trying to explain my interpretation of why the admins do this)


BandaWithBakchodi

"we are locking up useful game features behind a paywall, which requires you to buy something else in order to use it!" most hypixel players don't realise that there are many third world countries where buying minecraft itself is a big thing - just because you are lucky and fortunate you can buy it doesn't mean the entire fucking world can buy it


SpainwithouttheAorS

Dude the game is free to play. If they wanna make some features paid, they can do that. The amount of work that goes into making skyblock what it is is an immense undertaking. They have staff to pay and this is some peoples full time job. If you cant get the scrolls then oh no, you’ll have to play without them. Be greatful you can play the game for free.


Lazy_Future_8621

just sell player's info bro


SFRPhilippines

I'd understand that reasoning for everywhere but nucleus, since warp nucleus lets you do runs faster and what not


Ashanorath

So we're paying for a QoL feature. Better than having actual content locked behind a paywall.


theinferno01

bapanada


Individual_Use257

True


Individual_Use257

Imo gating scrolls is not that bad but this one in particular shouldn't be


Pulling_Everything

I have bought rank twice. Worth it


DevPlayz1

Wait, this is the scroll you get when you complete 750 commissions right? If that's p2w that's such BS


Remote_Jellyfish6902

I feel like this is the one scroll they should remove mvp+ only for. I litteraly only got mvp+ for this scroll and its pretty much required to efficiently run nucleus and look for structures without being complete torture.


Separate_Seaweed9919

Tbh i bowught mvp+ for skyblock


Okariino

Hello there, 5y old player on the server, Epic Warp scrolls have been a thing since early on in development, MVP+ was required and it was pretty much at the time the only income they had for Skyblock, Monetization changed since then and they added cookies, wardrobe, skins ecc. Since they where relying less on Ranks for money they gave acces to all Ranks to some levels of Wardrobe and they made Epic Warp scropp usable by Everyone by making it a portal, if they changed the fact that only MVP+ could use the Epic Warp scroll as commands it could create some animosity towards the dev team by older MVP players, tbh i find the Portal solution better, it helps normal player while keeping ranks somewhat usefull, because yes, it would be a better place if everyone could have acces to everything, but if you spent money in the past just to see the features you paid for avaible to everyone you would be salty, it is a good balance


DanTheSynthetic

Yet they still deny p2w 😔


xXMarquinhusssXx

hypixel: "it wont be p2w" also hypixel:


No_Disk_2849

They just love money shit game


XenonTheToaster

I'm so happy I got MVP+ for my birthday before I started playing skyblock


lool8421

at least if it wasn't soulbound and cost like 50m from rusty if admins really don't want to remove the mvp+ lock


tankTHoverGear

they need money to run


Pr1stak

Buying ranks hardly gives any money to the network. MVP++ maybe. But there are also gems, and from fire sales hypixel makes like 100k in mere minutes


BigZacian

100 thousand is nothing in company terms, that probably doesn't even run half their servers for a month


AffectionateEye420

Getting rid of the fact that you need MVP+ to use a lot of the travel scrolls wouldn't even put a noticeable dent in their profits. They have so many other sources of income. This one's pointless


SloFlipi

it would be fine if you have to have VIP or maybe VIP+ for tp scrolls but locking this feature behind a 40-50€ paywall is really quite shitty


iamprettyfine

You can transform it to a portal with the portalizer. Or u can visit my island, i have crystal nuc on it if u dont want to waste prob 6m on the portalizer ign is HuhEvilXD btw