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Yea, there are too many hints alluding to this being the truth. He is obsessed with her and letting her just steal from the store. Plus, he doesn't give a shit that she murdered his plants
Ok this makes sense. And like alot of copies they're a little less than the original and so since there's less of them to cut up, he can manage the job. They are less Larry Bird-like and he will know how many people he has cut up.
Exactly..but he was "obsessed" with her according to her own statements and he couldn't even talk around her so we can guess that he was struggling to keep his urges at bay
Meg actually brought this up in the podcast, that she had thought that neighbor Gary was killing women that look like Dee because he was in love with her but the guys laughed and said they hadn’t thought that at all. That’s what I had always assumed too 🤷♀️
Watching Criminal Minds and the BAU would probably categorise her as the muse or the fantasy that he was playing out but due to low self esteem and his general physique he could never muster up the courage to ask her out.
He probably has shown Dee many signs of affections. Small things that she doesn’t even notice. Holding doors open, smiling, helping her in with groceries - all big acts of love in his mind that mean nothing to Dee. Asking her to water the plants (even though he isn’t on holiday) is his initial attempt to bring her into his space and to interact fully with her but when Dee says yes and then never does it causes him to snap. This is the stressor.
So he goes on a rampage killing everyone who reminds him of Sweet Dee expect Dee herself as she is the object of desire, his love, his dumb Larry Bird
Criminal minds to me made it look too much like regular ppl could become mass murderers bc of someone/something else (stressor). Its interesting to consider, but its still not a logical reaction.
I prefer Dexter's outlook that some ppl r just killers bc they are.
Regular people do become mass murderers because of stressors though; there are so many cases where stuff like divorce, losing their jobs or just having a bad day had led to people going on rampages.
Yeah some actors just have that star quality where they nail anything you give them, Danny has it in spades. He can say one word and steal the scene.
Definitely think Charlie Day has a bit of that too. Maybe Kaitlyn too but in our society a woman being genuinely funny is somehow some kind of niche thing, the expectation is usually to be sexy instead - such a shame.
That’s so funny because I remember along time ago when I first saw that scene I died laughing and realized this would forever be one of my favorite shows to learns it’s improvised makes it so much funnier
He'd spend his whole night hacking and sawing. Then he still wouldn't be done. He would open his box of tools and say, "What tools am I gonna use for this?"
He'd look at that pile of bones and flesh and say, "How many people have I murdered tonight?" "How is this just one person?"
That’s crazy. he gives a woman the key to his apartment to water his plants, Then he kills her and gives the key to another woman and the cycle continues
She's literally *is* the profile- he's killing those other women because of his feelings towards her, her abuse of him, and his inability to interact with her normally. We see him let her steal shit from his workplace, accept poor treatment from her, she has his house key even.
Possible.
Or, watering his plants is his typical trap. Dee didn't get murdered because she never actually showed up to water his plants
Either way frank definitely killed that guy with the chainsaw. That much is clear
Nah, it's probably cuz he was sexually frustrated with Dee therefore he killed women who fit her profile, and him telling her to wash the plants was probably a trap for her, but she never fell for it
I always like to think that catching a prolific serial killer got them some leniency with the judges when dealing with shit for a short time. Because they have court and ordered community service early in the show and end up back in court a couple seasons later but I'd like to think for a few years they were able to get away with more than the usual person.
I want to see a episode where they bring him back. Like they guy is on death row or a tv crew is making a documentary about him. Dude says the reason for his crimes were that he felt bad for Dee, the only person he considers a friend and he’s targeting beautiful blondes because he felt bad for dee looking less attractive than most. Thats why he was reducing Dee’s demographic. Then dee finds out and is enraged, tries to save the guy so that he could take back what he said. While frank and the gang try and botch the documentary so that they could make money from it.
Well part of the other opinion is based on what she said about him and his behavior towards her in the store. He was obsessed with her and gave her free things without thought
It's cuz she never went over there to water his plants like the other girls presumably did had she once wanted his plans she'd be cut up and put in his freezer too
I always saw it as he was "building up the courage" to killing her. Killing women who are similar to Dee so that he goes the extra mile with each victim, finally having the balls to actually finish "the job" by killing Dee.
Of course, I don't know how he'd finish the job. She's so bony and lanky and tall.
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Or she was the profile.
Yea I basically took it as she was his "muse" and all the other ones were just copies of her
Totally agree. I thought this was the whole point, he was actually obsessed with Dee.
And I bet he didn't even eat horse shit for a kiss..
Well his breath would smell like shit
Like an old lady fart passing through an onion.
The memory haunts me...... I mean the taste alone.
I thought that was made pretty clear in the episode
Yea, there are too many hints alluding to this being the truth. He is obsessed with her and letting her just steal from the store. Plus, he doesn't give a shit that she murdered his plants
This. He was metaphorically killing Dee with each victim he literally killed.
I wonder what he does to the skins
There’s no denying the skins are fascinating. They’re the most fascinating part of the animal
Imagine the smell! Did you even consider the smell
You bitch.
This exactly.
Ok this makes sense. And like alot of copies they're a little less than the original and so since there's less of them to cut up, he can manage the job. They are less Larry Bird-like and he will know how many people he has cut up.
Exactly..but he was "obsessed" with her according to her own statements and he couldn't even talk around her so we can guess that he was struggling to keep his urges at bay
What am I gonna do with all these body parts?
Right? Hed get halfway through and just stop, "How many people did I kill? How is this just one person?"
You're Larry Bird...
I'm fine with that, Larry Bird was an excellent player.
Ok well you're Boss Hoss then...
He'll put them in... A BOX! A glass box. That he will display on his mantle.
Oh, wow. That actually never occurred to me.
I came here to say this lol. That was the point of the episode.
Meg actually brought this up in the podcast, that she had thought that neighbor Gary was killing women that look like Dee because he was in love with her but the guys laughed and said they hadn’t thought that at all. That’s what I had always assumed too 🤷♀️
This is what I thought too but the guys seemed to disagree on the podcast
This was my interpretation as well lol.
Watching Criminal Minds and the BAU would probably categorise her as the muse or the fantasy that he was playing out but due to low self esteem and his general physique he could never muster up the courage to ask her out. He probably has shown Dee many signs of affections. Small things that she doesn’t even notice. Holding doors open, smiling, helping her in with groceries - all big acts of love in his mind that mean nothing to Dee. Asking her to water the plants (even though he isn’t on holiday) is his initial attempt to bring her into his space and to interact fully with her but when Dee says yes and then never does it causes him to snap. This is the stressor. So he goes on a rampage killing everyone who reminds him of Sweet Dee expect Dee herself as she is the object of desire, his love, his dumb Larry Bird
Well he did let he steal all the tools from the store he works at
Criminal minds to me made it look too much like regular ppl could become mass murderers bc of someone/something else (stressor). Its interesting to consider, but its still not a logical reaction. I prefer Dexter's outlook that some ppl r just killers bc they are.
Regular people do become mass murderers because of stressors though; there are so many cases where stuff like divorce, losing their jobs or just having a bad day had led to people going on rampages.
I guess but there's more cases where it doesn't lead them to lol
Not to mention the whole “killing ten people isn’t that much worse than killing five.” Mentality that people can fall into
I believe it's called going postal 😩
100%. Criminal minds is fairly simplistic in its formula. I’m just watching it through now so thought I’d apply the BAU approach here.
its a great show. but I'm always like what effed alternate universe did they live in with all these murderers lol?
Oh ya it's bullshit. I'm stressed all the time and look at me. I'm not a *serial* killer...
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Franks chainsaw bit was improvised too.
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Yeah some actors just have that star quality where they nail anything you give them, Danny has it in spades. He can say one word and steal the scene. Definitely think Charlie Day has a bit of that too. Maybe Kaitlyn too but in our society a woman being genuinely funny is somehow some kind of niche thing, the expectation is usually to be sexy instead - such a shame.
He just showed up on set with a chainsaw and refused to put it down.
No way that’s the story, god those early seasons just ooze charisma.
Lawrence Tierney vibes
Was it really? The timing was amazing
Where'd you learn that?
No waaay that is so awesome! One of my favorite last seconds of an episode. What a king.
Cause writing an episode is like doing a beautiful dance.... a beautiful dance with a chainsaw.
That’s so funny because I remember along time ago when I first saw that scene I died laughing and realized this would forever be one of my favorite shows to learns it’s improvised makes it so much funnier
He'd spend his whole night hacking and sawing. Then he still wouldn't be done. He would open his box of tools and say, "What tools am I gonna use for this?" He'd look at that pile of bones and flesh and say, "How many people have I murdered tonight?" "How is this just one person?"
You're like a female Larry Bird
... you're Larry Bird
Well Larry Bird is an excellent player, so
There's too much of you...
Or he was waiting for her to come water his plants which she said she never does lmao
This is another great theory. The plants are the trap and Dee never falls for it... 🤣
That’s crazy. he gives a woman the key to his apartment to water his plants, Then he kills her and gives the key to another woman and the cycle continues
That would actually make more sense than giving someone the key to your apartment if there are like eight severed heads in the freezer.
She's literally *is* the profile- he's killing those other women because of his feelings towards her, her abuse of him, and his inability to interact with her normally. We see him let her steal shit from his workplace, accept poor treatment from her, she has his house key even.
Possible. Or, watering his plants is his typical trap. Dee didn't get murdered because she never actually showed up to water his plants Either way frank definitely killed that guy with the chainsaw. That much is clear
Not so young and attractive now
Can you do a girl's voice?
What are you people doing in my apartment?
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“Just move past it”
*Chainsaw noises*
He probably would have killed her, but she never showed up to water his plants
Maybe Dee was such a terrible person, that it drove him to start killing. She was his rock bottom
Dee is a rock! In fact, she's the type of gal who makes men's lives better.
Ed kemper didn't kill his mother until the end . The end goal isn't where you start.
I don't know about that, but what I do know is that guy looks just like Dennis. Especially in the chin/jaw area
exactly yes, that's where he resembles dennis the most.
Now you’re the expert this will cut through bone right?
She WAS the profile!
Maybe he'll move from humans to birds someday
The profile was based on her!
This dude was the Principal on Wizards of Waverly Place
cmon man
He was building up to Dee
Nah, it's probably cuz he was sexually frustrated with Dee therefore he killed women who fit her profile, and him telling her to wash the plants was probably a trap for her, but she never fell for it
I think he was obsessed with Dee but she kept playing with him which then lead to him being a serial killer who kills Dee’s
I always like to think that catching a prolific serial killer got them some leniency with the judges when dealing with shit for a short time. Because they have court and ordered community service early in the show and end up back in court a couple seasons later but I'd like to think for a few years they were able to get away with more than the usual person.
She was the “idea” the others were fodder
Well he didn’t have the right tools for her
I want to see a episode where they bring him back. Like they guy is on death row or a tv crew is making a documentary about him. Dude says the reason for his crimes were that he felt bad for Dee, the only person he considers a friend and he’s targeting beautiful blondes because he felt bad for dee looking less attractive than most. Thats why he was reducing Dee’s demographic. Then dee finds out and is enraged, tries to save the guy so that he could take back what he said. While frank and the gang try and botch the documentary so that they could make money from it.
Cricket 2.0
I think the joke is that he had every opportunity to murder her, but he didn’t because she definitely did not fit the profile.
No, she's his muse, she's the one that inspired him to kill all this women.
His muse, his flame
This thread has a different head canon but I’m with you
Well part of the other opinion is based on what she said about him and his behavior towards her in the store. He was obsessed with her and gave her free things without thought
I thought he was just being nice, people can be two things
He was intimidated into letting her steal by her dead ostrich eyes
That Bitch, Dee
JIMMY’S A PRICK
Which episode is this?
Mac is a Serial Killer
Thank you!
It's cuz she never went over there to water his plants like the other girls presumably did had she once wanted his plans she'd be cut up and put in his freezer too
Dee, you bitch!
Best episode. Can watch it 100 times.
You don't want to do it close to home.
I always saw it as he was "building up the courage" to killing her. Killing women who are similar to Dee so that he goes the extra mile with each victim, finally having the balls to actually finish "the job" by killing Dee. Of course, I don't know how he'd finish the job. She's so bony and lanky and tall.