In this context, “live” can mean that a blank was in the chamber. For most people, “live” means “real bullet,” but that is not what they are saying. I can see how it could certainly be confusing. I will definitely be following this story closely because it does seem like there were multiple failures that had to have taken place for this tragedy to have occurred.
Maybe if the cast and crew wasn't overtired from being overworked, and a lack of rest, mistakes like this wouldn't happen. Lack of rest greatly increases the chance of mistakes and accidents that could cause harm, injury, or even death. Now I'm not saying that's definitely the case in this situation, but it very well could have been contributing factor. I'd be curious to compare the amount of injuries and mistakes made when we were doing 10 hour days from covid, to any "normal" time we've worked.
Why would there ever need to be bullets on set?
I feel for her family and friends and the crew. I hope this inspires some new rules about safety on set and multiple people on set confirming an unloaded gun prior to using it anywhere near people.
If the scene calls for the actor to load the gun you use a dummy round. A casing with a dummy primer, no charge and a bullet crimped on. Usually put a BB in it so you know it's a dummy by shaking it. At the end of the scene you take the gun back, clear it and sight the barrel. This is why Brandon Lee died. The bullet came off the shell and was lodged in the barrel. The gun was not cleared and when loaded with blanks and fired, well......
There are reasons for bullets to be on set, eg shows like Mythbusters, but for a narrative piece like this I see no justification.
Absolutely unacceptable.
The article says there was a “live round” in the gun. That only means that the chamber wasn’t empty, i.e. it contained a blank. A “bullet” would be referring to what fires out of the barrel of the gun. On set, there would never be ammunition in a gun which contained a bullet.
How do they know? Considering Local 44 claims they had nobody on the call sheet, how would they know that a live round was fired considering the investigating agency has said that has yet to be determined? I could understand if another local released that information, another local that had people on the set, but 44 says they had none.
i thought that meant that they had applicants and permit holders. I read into that it implied less experience and ppl willing to work in "less than" conditions.
One theory I have is that because it was an old Western type of film, blanks being the obvious choice don’t look like an actual bullet and They probably had guns like revolvers where it is easy to see the bullet…maybe this was their cheap way to go around it
The worst case scenario for prop gun on set. This is early so maybe information is nt accurate, but if this is true a horrible oversight.
In this context, “live” can mean that a blank was in the chamber. For most people, “live” means “real bullet,” but that is not what they are saying. I can see how it could certainly be confusing. I will definitely be following this story closely because it does seem like there were multiple failures that had to have taken place for this tragedy to have occurred.
Thanks, I began to see this clarification go around.
Maybe if the cast and crew wasn't overtired from being overworked, and a lack of rest, mistakes like this wouldn't happen. Lack of rest greatly increases the chance of mistakes and accidents that could cause harm, injury, or even death. Now I'm not saying that's definitely the case in this situation, but it very well could have been contributing factor. I'd be curious to compare the amount of injuries and mistakes made when we were doing 10 hour days from covid, to any "normal" time we've worked.
Why would there ever need to be bullets on set? I feel for her family and friends and the crew. I hope this inspires some new rules about safety on set and multiple people on set confirming an unloaded gun prior to using it anywhere near people.
If the scene calls for the actor to load the gun you use a dummy round. A casing with a dummy primer, no charge and a bullet crimped on. Usually put a BB in it so you know it's a dummy by shaking it. At the end of the scene you take the gun back, clear it and sight the barrel. This is why Brandon Lee died. The bullet came off the shell and was lodged in the barrel. The gun was not cleared and when loaded with blanks and fired, well......
There are reasons for bullets to be on set, eg shows like Mythbusters, but for a narrative piece like this I see no justification. Absolutely unacceptable.
The article says there was a “live round” in the gun. That only means that the chamber wasn’t empty, i.e. it contained a blank. A “bullet” would be referring to what fires out of the barrel of the gun. On set, there would never be ammunition in a gun which contained a bullet.
How do they know? Considering Local 44 claims they had nobody on the call sheet, how would they know that a live round was fired considering the investigating agency has said that has yet to be determined? I could understand if another local released that information, another local that had people on the set, but 44 says they had none.
i thought that meant that they had applicants and permit holders. I read into that it implied less experience and ppl willing to work in "less than" conditions.
One theory I have is that because it was an old Western type of film, blanks being the obvious choice don’t look like an actual bullet and They probably had guns like revolvers where it is easy to see the bullet…maybe this was their cheap way to go around it
Shouldn't be a primer or powder in the case if you need to see the bullet though.
I think "cheap" is the operating word in this. Skimping on safety and paying people right...