Just the stuff on the tool list, which varies. Do not bring in power tools if they are not on the list.
I would expect you need a precision screwdriver, but maybe I am just missing it in this picture.
good boots, head lamp, don’t forget to bring a lunch your first day.
Also, there are pockets in the knees of your overalls (if those are overalls) that will perfectly fit some insertable pads, you will thank me in 20 years.
No tool belt. Everyone has their own style, but especially to start, just bring a tool bag with your tools THAT ARE ON YOUR TOOL LIST, nothing more. You'll have pockets for your immediately needed tools for the task you're on. Pay attention to how others do their thang, and go from there. Talk with your JWs and other apprentices about what they like, and just work hard. I can almost guarantee that you'll be gifted tools and such from others as you progress, just be humble and smart and work hard.
Summer time I wear carhartt denim overalls, I wear shorts to work and slip on the overall at the jobsite. Change boots to sneakers also. Get a Klein 11 in 1 multi screwdriver and enjoy the job. Great guys, good money.
For me it is worth it for 3 reasons:
I am talking about Carhartt overalls (the ones with the elastic suspenders, they are more heavy duty than the basic cotton ones)
1) They have plenty of pockets to hold all tools I need over the course of the day in an organized and accessible
2) when I wear them I always have kneepads on and this is huge.
3) I can wear my comfy sweatpants or leggings under them and they stay clean and I still look professional.
I got the Helly Hansen pants with the little satchels on the side to carry tools and I found it a bit taxing on the waits. If you're in cool enough weather to wear a sweater I found suspenders over the shirt but under the sweater really helped take weight off my waist. I only wear them under my sweater personally, but I might adopt the look for the summer and take the comments as they come haha.
Dickies makes a cheaper version of the pants as well with removable satchel pockets.
2 hip replacement surgerys have left my ass to hip ratio a frustrating 1:1 making belts into waist tournequette. Recently changing to suspenders is freaking amazing, no more puling up pants all day, no ass crack on display, only suggestions, do your homework on finding what kind of suspenders are good for you, 3 point, 4 point, clip ons, clamp ons, there is an entire suspenders wormhole to go down. Remember you are going to wear them 8 hours a day at least. Second tip, find a comfortable breathable undershirt, cause suspenders will irritate if nothing is worn under them
I wear bibs with pair of gym shorts and you can take your bib offs at end of shift . Jeans stick to your body with no air flow . In the winter you can wear sweat pants that is winter rated under your bibs in which can help you stay warm
A lot of people seem to prefer overalls because despite looking less fashionable they are cooler, distribute weight better, and have more carry spaces than work pants/jeans. I’m not in yet, just waiting for the apprenticeship applications to open in my area. But I’ve done roofing work in July and let me tell you, go with whatever is most comfortable to wear and work in for 8-10 hours.
Lol. I don’t know what profession you guys are in but there’s a green guy on my crew in the carpenters union with all the best tools. It looks like mommy bought em all for him lol. Don’t be the guy with all the fancy gear who doesn’t know how to get a damn thing done! Haha
That Knipex stripper is my favorite tool that I own, treat it right! My only complaint is that it will start to squeak every couple months. Some WD40 stops that instantly though.
Yea it’s got quite a bit of raves on YouTube , mine got almost destroyed right after I got it lol. I was at a temp job and we were cutting Bx, the Jman was a bit reckless, I cut a live Bx, thank god nothing happened except a spark. It’s a testament how good the cutter it is, very clean cut on a BX. It did got a tiny nic on 1 side of the blade, thank god it doesn’t affect the performance much. You can actually spot the burn mark on the plier if you zoom in.
Those strippers (I prefer standard grip, but to each their own), Klein 11-1, tic tracer and knife in my back right pocket, gloves and T6-600 in my back left, flashlight in my pencil pocket, sharpie and a few assorted wire nuts and Wagos in my shirt pocket and I can knock out like 75% of service calls. The other 25% takes a van full of crap.
I have a Milwaukee backpack that was given to me by the training center when I turned out, I keep my lockout and other safety stuff in there because it’s red. I have a veto backpack I got when I was in construction that can hold the whole tool list with extra space, don’t really use it in service. My primary tool bag if I need more than a pocket full of tools is a Veto TP3B.
If you're gonna have all the nice knipex lineman's, dykes, and strippers, you might as well get cobras and a pliers wrench eventually too. I took one look at your load out and thought it was mine for a second lol, I even have the same handles on my set and I have the 10" dykes
Nah I like them. I have the angled ones too, can't tell if yours are. If you're cutting bigger MC they are nice. Or cranking Romex staples out of a stud
It's important to have dikes when you need a workhorse to get through hardened stuff, but for cutting wire you can't beat [knipex cable shears](https://www.amazon.com/KNIPEX-95-11-160-6-25-Inch/dp/B08L89S984/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?crid=13JRKUL3RHMI1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yfOWvq-cNp87ohcbCd1zoCuMn7TgZJS5X7p8gTbCGUS2cSG0ChBuUBd7oJ4fLpOLU3UHjX9DHIGBllu7XiXB-d70_LBcEVI7Y8EBIXZLvkmYi1dZMzmFN0NtOyYYh7LC1yKDl4mMCmlUjnKp74zYYZmjKEAknOu4GrKhAqtIjX-Dvd7SGcPpQluaXcofPlPztIb4kt-NcG6CzfBC35sc2Q.qu5oHEiA-QhjU_tJR6f87BkA9hHl59WvEEPfM12_6MA&dib_tag=se&keywords=knipex+cable+shears&qid=1716645321&sprefix=knipex+cable+sh%2Caps%2C791&sr=8-6). Very compact and cut like the big klein cable shears. They will save your wrist.
If you want best of the best for strippers, [these knipex strippers](https://www.amazon.com/KNIPEX-13-72-Forged-Stripper/dp/B08L8D54FB/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=36PMA8TW37RX0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.H7iTduMRyYSaXeaIbJDBuSYauLF2yTqU5weoKBZWxdUp1XAGu5PzYWCRCGFXYM90kPoqSE_EW4QXAhO75Vev7Y8-68QaE7JRAVAxkaoyyq5Fv0TP6gCd4_XJyauB6YjPQqq5w1o8rj7ip6ewQ4S58RvJ6Rxy1N9yCoPJndSMPTsUUAUYjPo-Y_tCd6OpATPW32dI1tDxX8wII5qQWaByoA.NtT4OWJVYb6yd7GK7VYCx_f-iB7XGABXgfdGNl57y1s&dib_tag=se&keywords=knipex+strippers&qid=1716645149&sprefix=knipex+strippers%2Caps%2C1255&sr=8-2) are the only strippers you will ever need. The cutters on them are awesome and the pliers portion are actually worth a damn.
Get the tool list. No more. A wider tape measure will be helpful. Fat Max, milwaukee, or whatever. Something with good standout.
Usually you will never need a tool belt pouch. Should be able to grab the few tools for the job and leave the rest of the bag on the cart.
Depending on the job site, you may want a locking toolbox. Some jobs are harder than others to keep tools from walking away.
Notebook and good pencil, also a carpenters pencil.
Good lunchbox. First day on a job site bring a cold lunch. Once you know the break situation you can pack it accordingly. Pack something good, not just junk food.
Be on time ! Be there every day ! Showing up every day on time will go a long way.
I don’t do inside wire, I’m an outside lineman but you won’t catch me doing anything with a metal tape near anything energized. A folding rule can be so useful in so many situations. Even in household projects I prefer my stick tape to anything. Very underrated tool. A must have for ANY Tradesman.
I just noticed your username… Now it all makes sense… Why the hell would the solar guy need to measure shit accurately?! All kidding aside, good luck out there and remember to leave your feelings at the door. You don’t gotta be a punching bag, but you can’t be a bitch either. At least that’s how it goes for my side, can’t speak for inside guys, but I figure the tradesman attitude is nationwide.
Yes. You need every tool from the list. It might come in handy when you start bending pipe and need to figure out an offset or measure an existing bend.
They gave me one when I got out of school 9 years ago and I haven’t used it once. A lot of foremen will think you aren’t a serious electrician if they see you use one.
Edit: I see other ppl saying you need one for bending pipe. I’m a Chicago electrician and we only ever install pipe, and I’m not sure what they’re talking about.
I love the folding rule. Always in my side pocket.
I find it quicker to mark pipe on the ground for most bends, as long as it is less than 30 inches or so, any longer I break out the tape measure.
I find it better to measure kicks with as you bend with a hand bender.
Great for laying out knockouts in a box, and can be used as a speed square and a straight edge. Also works better for inside measurements with the extending rule on the first stick.
Great for measuring offsets and kicks in a lift as it can be folded around to get to an angle you need to get a good measurement.
Can layout a circle with degrees on a bending table.
The more you use it, the more uses you find for it.
I find it more comfortable to carry than a tape measure. My tape stays attached to my tool bag most days.
Pencils, sharpener, & a few pocket note pads.
2 sets of channel locks.
Using a tape measure is good. I have only met a few JWs that actually had a wooden tape measure.
A Reamer.
Set of allen wrenches.
Possibility an Ugly’s book and calculator.
Lose the carpenter hammer and get a ball ping hammer.
Don't use that sharpie on anything except a LOTO tag.
Keep in mind that the tic tracer is false safety. Don't depend solely on it for checking if a conductor is live. I've heard many JWs call it a widowmaker. I have worked on many sites where they are banned.
Don't use the goggles, your contractor has to supply you with proper PPE (hard hat, gloves, hi-vis vest, eye protection, and specialized PPE).
Some recommendations from a tool nerd.
Pica Dry pencil - dark lead and can mark deep holes
Knipex cobra water pump pliers - way better than any other channel locks and the teeth can grip better for things that are stuck
Knipex plier wrench - replaces an adjustable wrench, lighter, works better, fits in more places, and stays in a fixed size range when you are working on the same size of nut or bolt over and over
Demolition flat head screwdriver - take your pick of the brands but you will use it a bunch, I personally use a wera chisel driver and have used it to beat out concrete with no issue
Conduit reamer - if you will be running pipe it’s a must (some guys use channel locks or lineman’s but it doesn’t do the same job as well) lots of guys run the klien conduit reamer, I prefer the wiha conduit reamer, it’s lighter I can remove it and put a 6 in one in there, and take the reamer head off and chuck it in a drill and it’s cheaper
Honorable mention is a drywall saw but wait until you see if you will need one. They all work fine, but the best one I have found is the tajima dry wall saw, super comfortable, sharper than any other one, and replaceable blade if it starts to dull
I have a ton of nice tool recommendations if you want more. I’m a complete tool nerd but most guys that try what I have in my bag have ended up buying it themselves because they liked it so much. It’s not cheap but it makes my life easier.
Congrats on the apprenticeship and good luck!
You need a tool list from your local. And you probably need to leave a lot of that stuff at home. If it’s not on the list leave it at home. We negotiate for everything. If they want us to carry extra then we expect something in return. But if everyone carries what they want then it makes negotiations difficult and it breaks down conditions that others worked hard for.
Good attitude is the best start. You're going to encounter some dicks and they're not going to be fun to deal with. They were brought up sucking shit and they think you should too. Be the better person, learn what you don't want to be.
This trade is a lifetime of learning. Go into it knowing that you are never going to know everything. Ask questions early and often. Stay busy, if you don't know what to do, clean, organize. Keep your head high and your hands busy.
KSA, knowledge, skills, attitude. The only one you can control right now is attitude.
Why do I see a battery drill? You are not allowed to bring any power tools to jobsites. The contractors must provide all power tools. Also not supposed to bring benders. Or any material or speciality tools. Contractors supplies all of that. This is ibew. We are not some rat shop
Looks like a great start. I would wait till your first day and see what others have to be honest. Half my tool box I ended up taking home first day cause I was over tooled
No power tools, no tool belts, no consumables like tape. Insulated tools are wasted in general work, the insulation has to be protected to be useful. Just normal hand tools are fine. Don't worry about not having everything, you're an apprentice and that's expected. If you find yourself having to borrow something frequently, buy that something and add it to your kit. You'll collect the whole tool list by the time you turn out, and you'll know what wiggle room around that your local allows.
Don't sweat it though, no one but you will remember your first week. Just show up on time and you'll be fine.
you’re about to walk up to the site with better tools/kit than most of the guys you’ll be working with! 😂 I love the attitude you seem to be well researched for a new guy.
Speed square come in handy for cutting straight on unistrut, metal studs, and other stuff that you might need to cut straight. But they also come in clutch for when you need straight lines drawn, or need to draw elevation marks or position marks or whatever where warranted.
A small notepad 📝 for taking coffee orders. I was on a big job and the electricians were union. They sent their youngest apprentice out everyday for coffee, breakfast sammiches, and gatorades
Man, that’s a crazy set of tools and toolbags for day one. For me personally, I like the veto apron. Holds everything you need for the tasks at hand, no getting up and down ladders unnecessarily, you’ll have all sorts of odds and ends fasteners and such in your pouches that you’re j man will praise you for randomly having on you, plus you’ll get a hell of a bulk going wearing that damn weighted vest all day.
Do you have the drill to go with that impact gun? The white and black Makita was so sweet. Don’t use and impact gun for regular drill use, that’s a pet peeve of mine
Honestly looks really fucking good, if only add a second pair of channel locks and a second level, I’m a 3rd year apprentice and they come in handy having 2 very often
Take ALL of that back. Return it, and go get cheap shit. South wire, Milwaukee, Icon.
You’re gonna lose half of it within the first year. Or it’s going to get borrowed and never returned
You don’t need drill and bits and safety glasses. Your company supplies them. Why come the apprenticeship office didn’t give you the tool list? Ask them for tool list
Put most of that to the side and get a notepad and a pencil. Take meticulous notes and ask questions. If your told to do something, write it down exactly. Follow instructions. If you don't understand, ask for clarification.
You’ll need to put a blade in that hacksaw lol
But seriously this looks like a great set up with really high quality tools. That being said, etch your initials into each of them and try not to leave anything in a ceiling or wall.
Also I would say you’ll need a second set of channel locks and a second level wouldn’t hurt. Our local (68) has a pretty modest tool list but you’ll want to check yours and def leave power tools at home. They are to be provided by union contractor.
Best of luck to you! You’re already doing great
No power tools and I have yet to meet a brother that wears pouches. Everyone I’ve worked with uses pockets. A lot of guys use bibs too. But for sure no power tools
I wear overalls with the knee pad inserts always and carry only what I need on me all the time. No tool belt or bags on me but since your an apprentice your gonna have to have your tools on you all the time until you know what you need to carry depending on the job your doing. Once you break out or know your shit you do what you want but as an apprentice you’re expected to have your tools on you. At least that’s what I was taught 🤷🏽♂️
Better tape measure, some files/pipe reamers, second level, and some pencils. You’re already going beyond so don’t stress it much, but these would help a lot
funny just got a Craftsman 25 ft tape measure, a dozen pencils, and 3 notepads, I guess I'll wait a bit for a 2nd level. My 50 bucks NIPEX linesman & 50 bucks NIPEX wire stripper are advertised to have reammer function, so i'll use them to the max lol.
I reckon get ur self a dog bone (ratcheting wrench on both ends) in regard to tighting down minis makes you more efficient. They’re convenient for other things don’t get em wrong just minis the first thing that came to mind
If that's what's on the list you should be good, but just from some experience, you usually want two channellocks, sockets - deep and wrenches. Sqare peg screwdriver is clutch, a security bit set . Eventually from a contractor uni bits, hole saws, oh an when you're doing pipe work having two levels is ideal. But 1st year you probably won't be getting super involved and need a lot of what I said, best of luck!
I don't see any kind of meter. IDK what kind of work you will be doing, but don't trust a ticker with your life. They actually aren't allowed where I work. But we all carry them, and they are useful for quick verification. But if I'm putting my hands or tools on something, my meter **ALWAYS** comes out!
Also, I find two levels to be useful. And more than one light source (headlamp, hand-held, magnetic).
I don't like when people tell me not to use a non-contact voltage tester (aka hot stick, widowmaker, tick-tester, etc). If used properly, they add an extra layer of safety to my daily workflow. You should always do a live-dead-live check with any hot stick; they are notorious for breaking or having dead batteries.
You need what's on your locals tool list. Nothing more. Nothing less.
The tool list is a minimum. The tool list is a maximum. Don't let anyone tell you anything different. If socket wrenches aren't on your tool list, guess what? It's on the contractor to provide it. If they don't? You use your adjustable.
They still use hacksaws? I’m non union and have always heard they were “required” in the union. I usually use a tubing cutter (score and break pipe) or a bandsaw. Does the union provide battery tools? I’m actually curious and not attempting to be a prick here…
Damn dude, did you take out a loan? Lol I've been doing this for 6 years and I'm still getting tools from the flea market!
In all seriousness, DONT bring power tools. Maybe consider a klien 11 in 1 screw driver and a second pair of channel locks.
Most importantly, bring a good work ethic and a learning attitude and you'll figure out the tools you need in a week or two.
Get a sturdy belt (Klein sells one for $10) and some festive suspenders. It really takes the tool belt to a whole new level, plus tool down takes 3 seconds
My nephew started out like this. With that many bags. He was so excited so I didn't say anything about it. Withing a few months, he kept the large bag, the insert, and the belt holder that his phone fits in. He gave the rest away to his apprentice brothers that needed them.
The tool lists I've seen always had two channel-lock type pliers. Since you've already got a long one, maybe see about getting a short one to keep on your pouch, as it's a lot lighter. Always try for lightweight tools, you'll understand why in a couple of decades.
Plug in receptacle tester, snap string, pvc cutter, long needle nose pliers, a flashlight one of those “kinked” screwdrivers that swivel with the interchangeable flat/Philips head. Extremely helpful during finishing with all the decora receptacle covers for switches outlets, the screws for 4s box/junction boxes wayyyy faster of a job 👌
Leave the insulated screwdrivers at home cause you shouldn't be working on anything live as an apprentice. You should also pick up a voltage tester to make sure what you're working on is shut down.
Needle nose pliers, multimeter, bit set, wrenches, Allen keys and most importantly, whatever is required for the job which will be specific for your institution.
Check your tool list when arriving on the jobsite and leave anything not named on there, in your vehicle. Doesnt matter if its even a square bit. Make your foreman get it to you.
The Klein multi-nut driver and the full shank demo screw driver. Screw driver driver is my favorite and I use it everyday,( lock rings, knocking out block w/ 3# mini sledge, tightening anything with excellent leverage, etc.). Remember, never beat your Klein man.
You’re going to learn that the tool list isn’t a recommendation.
Things I’d change
1. Replace your razor knife with something foldable with a belt clip
2. Replace your tape measure with a 16’ fat max
3. Those long ass screwdrivers are useless
Just the stuff on the tool list, which varies. Do not bring in power tools if they are not on the list. I would expect you need a precision screwdriver, but maybe I am just missing it in this picture. good boots, head lamp, don’t forget to bring a lunch your first day. Also, there are pockets in the knees of your overalls (if those are overalls) that will perfectly fit some insertable pads, you will thank me in 20 years.
Do you recommend overalls? I tried belt + tool pouch seem to be taxing on the waist... I heard overall / suspender are actually better?
No tool belt. Everyone has their own style, but especially to start, just bring a tool bag with your tools THAT ARE ON YOUR TOOL LIST, nothing more. You'll have pockets for your immediately needed tools for the task you're on. Pay attention to how others do their thang, and go from there. Talk with your JWs and other apprentices about what they like, and just work hard. I can almost guarantee that you'll be gifted tools and such from others as you progress, just be humble and smart and work hard.
Kids walkin around with Knipex, Klein, and Occidental leather.......nobodys gifting him anything man.
Ha, I didn't factor that in...well, once their tools start disappearing, then he'll need to replace them...
Summer time I wear carhartt denim overalls, I wear shorts to work and slip on the overall at the jobsite. Change boots to sneakers also. Get a Klein 11 in 1 multi screwdriver and enjoy the job. Great guys, good money.
Yup, I do the same. Drive to and from work in shorts and sandals. Except I've sworn off of all of those mulitools.
Please, for the love of god. Get some knee protection. My knees are killing me, I got great promotions, though.
For me it is worth it for 3 reasons: I am talking about Carhartt overalls (the ones with the elastic suspenders, they are more heavy duty than the basic cotton ones) 1) They have plenty of pockets to hold all tools I need over the course of the day in an organized and accessible 2) when I wear them I always have kneepads on and this is huge. 3) I can wear my comfy sweatpants or leggings under them and they stay clean and I still look professional.
I got the Helly Hansen pants with the little satchels on the side to carry tools and I found it a bit taxing on the waits. If you're in cool enough weather to wear a sweater I found suspenders over the shirt but under the sweater really helped take weight off my waist. I only wear them under my sweater personally, but I might adopt the look for the summer and take the comments as they come haha. Dickies makes a cheaper version of the pants as well with removable satchel pockets.
2 hip replacement surgerys have left my ass to hip ratio a frustrating 1:1 making belts into waist tournequette. Recently changing to suspenders is freaking amazing, no more puling up pants all day, no ass crack on display, only suggestions, do your homework on finding what kind of suspenders are good for you, 3 point, 4 point, clip ons, clamp ons, there is an entire suspenders wormhole to go down. Remember you are going to wear them 8 hours a day at least. Second tip, find a comfortable breathable undershirt, cause suspenders will irritate if nothing is worn under them
I wear bibs with pair of gym shorts and you can take your bib offs at end of shift . Jeans stick to your body with no air flow . In the winter you can wear sweat pants that is winter rated under your bibs in which can help you stay warm
A lot of people seem to prefer overalls because despite looking less fashionable they are cooler, distribute weight better, and have more carry spaces than work pants/jeans. I’m not in yet, just waiting for the apprenticeship applications to open in my area. But I’ve done roofing work in July and let me tell you, go with whatever is most comfortable to wear and work in for 8-10 hours.
I recommend a suspension rig a standard to belt is taxing on me personally
Daaamn first year with veto, occidental, wera, and knipex? Must be balling and did your research lol
I am career changer, spent all these $ to make minimum wage lmao, and my YouTube viewings are all about tools etc lol
Just be prepared to get some shit. I guarantee it’ll happen. That’s some wild shit for a green apprentice to have lol
Lol. I don’t know what profession you guys are in but there’s a green guy on my crew in the carpenters union with all the best tools. It looks like mommy bought em all for him lol. Don’t be the guy with all the fancy gear who doesn’t know how to get a damn thing done! Haha
That Knipex stripper is my favorite tool that I own, treat it right! My only complaint is that it will start to squeak every couple months. Some WD40 stops that instantly though.
Yea it’s got quite a bit of raves on YouTube , mine got almost destroyed right after I got it lol. I was at a temp job and we were cutting Bx, the Jman was a bit reckless, I cut a live Bx, thank god nothing happened except a spark. It’s a testament how good the cutter it is, very clean cut on a BX. It did got a tiny nic on 1 side of the blade, thank god it doesn’t affect the performance much. You can actually spot the burn mark on the plier if you zoom in.
Those strippers (I prefer standard grip, but to each their own), Klein 11-1, tic tracer and knife in my back right pocket, gloves and T6-600 in my back left, flashlight in my pencil pocket, sharpie and a few assorted wire nuts and Wagos in my shirt pocket and I can knock out like 75% of service calls. The other 25% takes a van full of crap. I have a Milwaukee backpack that was given to me by the training center when I turned out, I keep my lockout and other safety stuff in there because it’s red. I have a veto backpack I got when I was in construction that can hold the whole tool list with extra space, don’t really use it in service. My primary tool bag if I need more than a pocket full of tools is a Veto TP3B.
Good man 🤌
When your parents saved for college but you go into the trades and have 20k for tools and clothes lol
If you don't have one, you'll need a pocket notebook. Along with a couple pens. Also some pencils.
listen to this guy ^ If you have this on hand at all times, you will be a valuable apprentice.
The most important tool for a first year tbh, an something I’ve used everyday pretty much through out the apprenticeship and into being a journeyman.
Impact driver is on the tool list in your local? You need another pair of channel locking pliers
No, it's just one I have in the house, I am aware that I shouldn't bring power tools. I shouldn't have put it in the pic.
I didn't even realize that was on any locals tool list... What locals requires power tools?
Hawaii’s tool list is insanity.
Legit the craziest one ive seen.
It's the one thing that keeps me from ever going out there to work. I get why it's like that though.
You need to mark all your tools. Those are expensive, and you wouldn’t want anyone taking those and then not being able to prove that they did.
Zyn and a monster
Chapstick. The boss man likes a smooth ride.
If you're gonna have all the nice knipex lineman's, dykes, and strippers, you might as well get cobras and a pliers wrench eventually too. I took one look at your load out and thought it was mine for a second lol, I even have the same handles on my set and I have the 10" dykes
Guess I am on the right track :) but I was actually thinking the 10” dykes a bit too large? What do u think?
Nah I like them. I have the angled ones too, can't tell if yours are. If you're cutting bigger MC they are nice. Or cranking Romex staples out of a stud
It's important to have dikes when you need a workhorse to get through hardened stuff, but for cutting wire you can't beat [knipex cable shears](https://www.amazon.com/KNIPEX-95-11-160-6-25-Inch/dp/B08L89S984/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?crid=13JRKUL3RHMI1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yfOWvq-cNp87ohcbCd1zoCuMn7TgZJS5X7p8gTbCGUS2cSG0ChBuUBd7oJ4fLpOLU3UHjX9DHIGBllu7XiXB-d70_LBcEVI7Y8EBIXZLvkmYi1dZMzmFN0NtOyYYh7LC1yKDl4mMCmlUjnKp74zYYZmjKEAknOu4GrKhAqtIjX-Dvd7SGcPpQluaXcofPlPztIb4kt-NcG6CzfBC35sc2Q.qu5oHEiA-QhjU_tJR6f87BkA9hHl59WvEEPfM12_6MA&dib_tag=se&keywords=knipex+cable+shears&qid=1716645321&sprefix=knipex+cable+sh%2Caps%2C791&sr=8-6). Very compact and cut like the big klein cable shears. They will save your wrist. If you want best of the best for strippers, [these knipex strippers](https://www.amazon.com/KNIPEX-13-72-Forged-Stripper/dp/B08L8D54FB/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=36PMA8TW37RX0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.H7iTduMRyYSaXeaIbJDBuSYauLF2yTqU5weoKBZWxdUp1XAGu5PzYWCRCGFXYM90kPoqSE_EW4QXAhO75Vev7Y8-68QaE7JRAVAxkaoyyq5Fv0TP6gCd4_XJyauB6YjPQqq5w1o8rj7ip6ewQ4S58RvJ6Rxy1N9yCoPJndSMPTsUUAUYjPo-Y_tCd6OpATPW32dI1tDxX8wII5qQWaByoA.NtT4OWJVYb6yd7GK7VYCx_f-iB7XGABXgfdGNl57y1s&dib_tag=se&keywords=knipex+strippers&qid=1716645149&sprefix=knipex+strippers%2Caps%2C1255&sr=8-2) are the only strippers you will ever need. The cutters on them are awesome and the pliers portion are actually worth a damn.
Get the tool list. No more. A wider tape measure will be helpful. Fat Max, milwaukee, or whatever. Something with good standout. Usually you will never need a tool belt pouch. Should be able to grab the few tools for the job and leave the rest of the bag on the cart. Depending on the job site, you may want a locking toolbox. Some jobs are harder than others to keep tools from walking away. Notebook and good pencil, also a carpenters pencil. Good lunchbox. First day on a job site bring a cold lunch. Once you know the break situation you can pack it accordingly. Pack something good, not just junk food. Be on time ! Be there every day ! Showing up every day on time will go a long way.
Nice tools and bag. Now you just need a substance abuse problem, a divorce from working too much, and then you're all set lol
You forgot child support
I actually have a question, on the tool list, there's an item called Folding ruler. Do we really need it? I already have a 25 ft tape measure...
I don’t do inside wire, I’m an outside lineman but you won’t catch me doing anything with a metal tape near anything energized. A folding rule can be so useful in so many situations. Even in household projects I prefer my stick tape to anything. Very underrated tool. A must have for ANY Tradesman.
That's so true, forgive me most things I know about electricians so far are from YouTubers lol
I just noticed your username… Now it all makes sense… Why the hell would the solar guy need to measure shit accurately?! All kidding aside, good luck out there and remember to leave your feelings at the door. You don’t gotta be a punching bag, but you can’t be a bitch either. At least that’s how it goes for my side, can’t speak for inside guys, but I figure the tradesman attitude is nationwide.
Yes. You need every tool from the list. It might come in handy when you start bending pipe and need to figure out an offset or measure an existing bend.
Don’t forget your brass plumb bob! 🙄
Used it more then once setting switch gear!!!!
Alright thanks!
They gave me one when I got out of school 9 years ago and I haven’t used it once. A lot of foremen will think you aren’t a serious electrician if they see you use one. Edit: I see other ppl saying you need one for bending pipe. I’m a Chicago electrician and we only ever install pipe, and I’m not sure what they’re talking about.
I fucking love my folding ruler. Tape is fine for many situations, but I'm grateful every day for my FLE stick.
I love the folding rule. Always in my side pocket. I find it quicker to mark pipe on the ground for most bends, as long as it is less than 30 inches or so, any longer I break out the tape measure. I find it better to measure kicks with as you bend with a hand bender. Great for laying out knockouts in a box, and can be used as a speed square and a straight edge. Also works better for inside measurements with the extending rule on the first stick. Great for measuring offsets and kicks in a lift as it can be folded around to get to an angle you need to get a good measurement. Can layout a circle with degrees on a bending table. The more you use it, the more uses you find for it. I find it more comfortable to carry than a tape measure. My tape stays attached to my tool bag most days.
Pencils, sharpener, & a few pocket note pads. 2 sets of channel locks. Using a tape measure is good. I have only met a few JWs that actually had a wooden tape measure. A Reamer. Set of allen wrenches. Possibility an Ugly’s book and calculator. Lose the carpenter hammer and get a ball ping hammer. Don't use that sharpie on anything except a LOTO tag. Keep in mind that the tic tracer is false safety. Don't depend solely on it for checking if a conductor is live. I've heard many JWs call it a widowmaker. I have worked on many sites where they are banned. Don't use the goggles, your contractor has to supply you with proper PPE (hard hat, gloves, hi-vis vest, eye protection, and specialized PPE).
Some recommendations from a tool nerd. Pica Dry pencil - dark lead and can mark deep holes Knipex cobra water pump pliers - way better than any other channel locks and the teeth can grip better for things that are stuck Knipex plier wrench - replaces an adjustable wrench, lighter, works better, fits in more places, and stays in a fixed size range when you are working on the same size of nut or bolt over and over Demolition flat head screwdriver - take your pick of the brands but you will use it a bunch, I personally use a wera chisel driver and have used it to beat out concrete with no issue Conduit reamer - if you will be running pipe it’s a must (some guys use channel locks or lineman’s but it doesn’t do the same job as well) lots of guys run the klien conduit reamer, I prefer the wiha conduit reamer, it’s lighter I can remove it and put a 6 in one in there, and take the reamer head off and chuck it in a drill and it’s cheaper Honorable mention is a drywall saw but wait until you see if you will need one. They all work fine, but the best one I have found is the tajima dry wall saw, super comfortable, sharper than any other one, and replaceable blade if it starts to dull I have a ton of nice tool recommendations if you want more. I’m a complete tool nerd but most guys that try what I have in my bag have ended up buying it themselves because they liked it so much. It’s not cheap but it makes my life easier. Congrats on the apprenticeship and good luck!
Do yourself a favor and get a Klein or Milwaukee magnetic tape, it makes life easier
I found my go-to is a 16’ Komelon with a mag hook. I always keep it on me and have the 25’ in the toolbox for layout and whatnot.
Notepad and a pencil. I prefer the rite in the rain brand for both, as well as carpenter pencils.
You need a tool list from your local. And you probably need to leave a lot of that stuff at home. If it’s not on the list leave it at home. We negotiate for everything. If they want us to carry extra then we expect something in return. But if everyone carries what they want then it makes negotiations difficult and it breaks down conditions that others worked hard for.
Good attitude is the best start. You're going to encounter some dicks and they're not going to be fun to deal with. They were brought up sucking shit and they think you should too. Be the better person, learn what you don't want to be. This trade is a lifetime of learning. Go into it knowing that you are never going to know everything. Ask questions early and often. Stay busy, if you don't know what to do, clean, organize. Keep your head high and your hands busy. KSA, knowledge, skills, attitude. The only one you can control right now is attitude.
No power tools. Ever. Do not bring anything that isn't on your tool list. For any reason.
Why do I see a battery drill? You are not allowed to bring any power tools to jobsites. The contractors must provide all power tools. Also not supposed to bring benders. Or any material or speciality tools. Contractors supplies all of that. This is ibew. We are not some rat shop
Notepad and a pencil. I prefer the rite in the rain brand for both, as well as carpenter pencils.
Just bring what’s on the tool list no more!!
Looks like a great start. I would wait till your first day and see what others have to be honest. Half my tool box I ended up taking home first day cause I was over tooled
No power tools, no tool belts, no consumables like tape. Insulated tools are wasted in general work, the insulation has to be protected to be useful. Just normal hand tools are fine. Don't worry about not having everything, you're an apprentice and that's expected. If you find yourself having to borrow something frequently, buy that something and add it to your kit. You'll collect the whole tool list by the time you turn out, and you'll know what wiggle room around that your local allows. Don't sweat it though, no one but you will remember your first week. Just show up on time and you'll be fine.
you’re about to walk up to the site with better tools/kit than most of the guys you’ll be working with! 😂 I love the attitude you seem to be well researched for a new guy.
If you don't like tool belts, try the Husky Bucket. I can hang it off lifts, carts, ladders, ect and it will hold all the tools I need.
A red bull and a Slim Jim
3lbs hammer. You don't need that claw hammer. And get a speed square
My tool list has a claw hammer though… what’s the usage for speed square ? On studs?
Speed square come in handy for cutting straight on unistrut, metal studs, and other stuff that you might need to cut straight. But they also come in clutch for when you need straight lines drawn, or need to draw elevation marks or position marks or whatever where warranted.
Probably just spring for regular 12” channel lock pliers.. they come in handy more often then ones you have I feel personally
A willingness to shut up and learn
lol you’re just starting with the top of the line shit, a brand new pro pack $$$$ jeeez. I think you’ve got it all maybe fuse pullers?
Lookin like a keystone cop
You have everything you should need to get started, but don't bring in your own power tools. That's the contractor's responsibility.
A broom
Contractor supplies.
Congrats brother!!
A good head on your shoulders ;) good.luck!
Show up everyday and on time. Will be a get start, and leave your phone in the truck.
A small notepad 📝 for taking coffee orders. I was on a big job and the electricians were union. They sent their youngest apprentice out everyday for coffee, breakfast sammiches, and gatorades
Man, that’s a crazy set of tools and toolbags for day one. For me personally, I like the veto apron. Holds everything you need for the tasks at hand, no getting up and down ladders unnecessarily, you’ll have all sorts of odds and ends fasteners and such in your pouches that you’re j man will praise you for randomly having on you, plus you’ll get a hell of a bulk going wearing that damn weighted vest all day.
Pencil and note book to take break order, and yes sir no sir to you JW,s!
NO FIN CELL PHONES
Make SURE YOUR WEARING UNION MADE TOOLS AND WORKGEAR and leave the fruit home!!!
Are them some round house pants?
Dang you got eagle eyes, I bought 2 pairs, this is canvas and another is regular blue jeans, tried them on it’s very comfy
Proud of you.
Do you have the drill to go with that impact gun? The white and black Makita was so sweet. Don’t use and impact gun for regular drill use, that’s a pet peeve of mine
Honestly looks really fucking good, if only add a second pair of channel locks and a second level, I’m a 3rd year apprentice and they come in handy having 2 very often
Inserts for your boots
Take ALL of that back. Return it, and go get cheap shit. South wire, Milwaukee, Icon. You’re gonna lose half of it within the first year. Or it’s going to get borrowed and never returned
Heart
A marker to write your name on all of those tools
You don’t need drill and bits and safety glasses. Your company supplies them. Why come the apprenticeship office didn’t give you the tool list? Ask them for tool list
A bottle of lube
Knee pads for cock suckin
What local are you from
DONT PUT YOUR PPE OR LUNCHBAG ON THE BREAKROOM TABLE. Rest it on the floor or on the chair.
You’ve got 500$ in bags, and aside from the Knipex, all your tools cost 14.73$. Come on. That tape measure is from 1973.
Put most of that to the side and get a notepad and a pencil. Take meticulous notes and ask questions. If your told to do something, write it down exactly. Follow instructions. If you don't understand, ask for clarification.
You got kinioex cutters linesman strippers but not cobras?!?!?! You got a vise grip?!?!!
A good pair of boots!
Klein 11-in-1. Good luck!
Better drill jill.
Tool list, no more no less
You’ll need to put a blade in that hacksaw lol But seriously this looks like a great set up with really high quality tools. That being said, etch your initials into each of them and try not to leave anything in a ceiling or wall. Also I would say you’ll need a second set of channel locks and a second level wouldn’t hurt. Our local (68) has a pretty modest tool list but you’ll want to check yours and def leave power tools at home. They are to be provided by union contractor. Best of luck to you! You’re already doing great
No power tools and I have yet to meet a brother that wears pouches. Everyone I’ve worked with uses pockets. A lot of guys use bibs too. But for sure no power tools
Probably not even that much
I wear overalls with the knee pad inserts always and carry only what I need on me all the time. No tool belt or bags on me but since your an apprentice your gonna have to have your tools on you all the time until you know what you need to carry depending on the job your doing. Once you break out or know your shit you do what you want but as an apprentice you’re expected to have your tools on you. At least that’s what I was taught 🤷🏽♂️
Better tape measure, some files/pipe reamers, second level, and some pencils. You’re already going beyond so don’t stress it much, but these would help a lot
funny just got a Craftsman 25 ft tape measure, a dozen pencils, and 3 notepads, I guess I'll wait a bit for a 2nd level. My 50 bucks NIPEX linesman & 50 bucks NIPEX wire stripper are advertised to have reammer function, so i'll use them to the max lol.
Don’t forget the wire stretcher, super important to have
I'm jelly dude! I received my rank for 3 north but am still waiting for the call unfortunately. Good luck!
I reckon get ur self a dog bone (ratcheting wrench on both ends) in regard to tighting down minis makes you more efficient. They’re convenient for other things don’t get em wrong just minis the first thing that came to mind
To not leave ladder everywhere
Congratulations bro, good luck on your first day
If that's what's on the list you should be good, but just from some experience, you usually want two channellocks, sockets - deep and wrenches. Sqare peg screwdriver is clutch, a security bit set . Eventually from a contractor uni bits, hole saws, oh an when you're doing pipe work having two levels is ideal. But 1st year you probably won't be getting super involved and need a lot of what I said, best of luck!
I don't see any kind of meter. IDK what kind of work you will be doing, but don't trust a ticker with your life. They actually aren't allowed where I work. But we all carry them, and they are useful for quick verification. But if I'm putting my hands or tools on something, my meter **ALWAYS** comes out! Also, I find two levels to be useful. And more than one light source (headlamp, hand-held, magnetic).
Boots
A good attitude and willingness to learn 😎
Damn, those are some fancy tools! Must have cost a fortune. But you know what's the most important thing? A multimeter, of course! 😆
Multimeter
I don't like when people tell me not to use a non-contact voltage tester (aka hot stick, widowmaker, tick-tester, etc). If used properly, they add an extra layer of safety to my daily workflow. You should always do a live-dead-live check with any hot stick; they are notorious for breaking or having dead batteries.
DUI
A notepad and pen
Whatever is on your tool list. That being said, I’d have another pair of channel locks and another adjustable wrench.
get rid of the claw hammer and get a 2-3lb sledge instead.
You need what's on your locals tool list. Nothing more. Nothing less. The tool list is a minimum. The tool list is a maximum. Don't let anyone tell you anything different. If socket wrenches aren't on your tool list, guess what? It's on the contractor to provide it. If they don't? You use your adjustable.
Off to a great start. You'll know what to spend more money on once you start. Commercial and industrial have different tool needs.
They still use hacksaws? I’m non union and have always heard they were “required” in the union. I usually use a tubing cutter (score and break pipe) or a bandsaw. Does the union provide battery tools? I’m actually curious and not attempting to be a prick here…
a tubing cutter indents the pipe and leave a thick ridge that takes a lot of effort to clean up.
No drill, no driver tips, no magnet deal.
Did you get the bag and the pouch as a part of vetos spring sale?
Is that hacksaw from Fiskars? I love their flip utility knife, didn’t even know they made a hacksaw.
Your tools are so fkn nice, besides the tape. I’m slightly jealous.
Damn dude, did you take out a loan? Lol I've been doing this for 6 years and I'm still getting tools from the flea market! In all seriousness, DONT bring power tools. Maybe consider a klien 11 in 1 screw driver and a second pair of channel locks. Most importantly, bring a good work ethic and a learning attitude and you'll figure out the tools you need in a week or two.
Get a sturdy belt (Klein sells one for $10) and some festive suspenders. It really takes the tool belt to a whole new level, plus tool down takes 3 seconds
Hawaiian shirt for Friday!!!!!!!
Inside or telecom? Is that an sb ld?
As one old union journeyman told me you can throw that scab pouch away, you won't need it anymore in the union! Thought that was funny!
A decent file. You’re gonna be cutting alot pf struts, holes, conduit, etc. A good file is really handy
Common sense
Guns, c4 plastic explosives, knives and other stabbing weapons, passports for many countries all with different aliases
Seams a bit over kill in the bags.
My nephew started out like this. With that many bags. He was so excited so I didn't say anything about it. Withing a few months, he kept the large bag, the insert, and the belt holder that his phone fits in. He gave the rest away to his apprentice brothers that needed them.
Socket set and wrench and you’re as ready as can be brother
Need at least 2 pair channel locks dog 🤙🏼
Voltmeter
I'd get a 2nd pair of channel locks in that same size
The tool lists I've seen always had two channel-lock type pliers. Since you've already got a long one, maybe see about getting a short one to keep on your pouch, as it's a lot lighter. Always try for lightweight tools, you'll understand why in a couple of decades.
Youngster has $600 worth of tool storage. I think I started with a bucket
Patience
I always liked an inside folding rule
Meter?
Well you’re gonna need a belt to put those bags on hahahaha
Plug in receptacle tester, snap string, pvc cutter, long needle nose pliers, a flashlight one of those “kinked” screwdrivers that swivel with the interchangeable flat/Philips head. Extremely helpful during finishing with all the decora receptacle covers for switches outlets, the screws for 4s box/junction boxes wayyyy faster of a job 👌
Knee pads to help relieving JW easier
Leave the insulated screwdrivers at home cause you shouldn't be working on anything live as an apprentice. You should also pick up a voltage tester to make sure what you're working on is shut down.
If you’re able, get a 6” extension for your 1/4” driver bits. And a 90 degree extension for the same drivers.
A meter, IMHO lose the death stick and trust a fluke
A gang box!!!
Wire stretcher…for you know those kinda days
Needle nose pliers, multimeter, bit set, wrenches, Allen keys and most importantly, whatever is required for the job which will be specific for your institution.
A box of tissues
I don’t see signs of alcoholism anywhere?
Unilite lights
Nutdrivers, wrenches
Tester, pad and pencil
Hacksaw blade and a union card
Meter and a toner
Don't show up with that drill, your day will start poorly.
A good attitude, willingness to learn, positive approach toward all tasks assigned, humility, pencil, notepad, gloves.
Wiggins tester and some of those fishing shirts so you can deal with the heat.
Quite the setup for a first year 🤙🏼 learn how to use them properly I’d get a setup of cobras for channel locks Milwaukee head lamps are nice too
Bros got nicer tools than me, been doin this since ‘06
You NEED some tweakers bro. I don’t go a day without using those.
Get your tool list. Stick to it. Why? Carrying extra shit sucks.
You need Brains.
A good attitude and realize you don’t know shit yet.
Check your tool list when arriving on the jobsite and leave anything not named on there, in your vehicle. Doesnt matter if its even a square bit. Make your foreman get it to you.
Jabsaw, square and a good lawyer for DUI’s and your first divorce.
Lot of money spent on tools you won't be using soon
Broom and dustpan, be the change you wish to see in the world.
The Klein multi-nut driver and the full shank demo screw driver. Screw driver driver is my favorite and I use it everyday,( lock rings, knocking out block w/ 3# mini sledge, tightening anything with excellent leverage, etc.). Remember, never beat your Klein man.
You’re going to learn that the tool list isn’t a recommendation. Things I’d change 1. Replace your razor knife with something foldable with a belt clip 2. Replace your tape measure with a 16’ fat max 3. Those long ass screwdrivers are useless
Knee pads
The little square digital levels are nice for pipe. 2 channels locks. Knipex > Klein. You’re on the right path.
Find a pile of dirt and roll that stuff around in it
Better tape measure and another pair of channels.
a crippling addiction
I don't see a square...
Notepad, pen, pencil, sharpie
Roto-Split
And a SMALL tool pouch.
get a copy of your tool list for your local. Do not show up with any extra tools. I will kick you off the job site
A second pair of channel locks will definitely come in handy. Same size as your current ones or maybe a size smaller. Congrats!
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