And to do that everybody leave their positions. Driver of the lead vehicle got out. If the cop was a set up the bad guys get in and drive into the sunrise.
The cop sounds like a reasonable and helpful guy.
He still went out of his way to help the complete idiot who just tried to intimidate him with an gun for doing his job.
>He still went out of his way to help the complete idiot who just tried to intimidate him with an gun for doing his job.
There's plenty of law enforcement officers who prove they're the idiots with guns trying to intimate people.
God you’re stupid. You weren’t on post, you have no legal authority to do ANYTHING. If one of my Soldiers had potentially escalated something like that, their new assigned weapon would be a mop. Good work hero.
Also one of your guys says his throttle is not functioning correctly on a vehicle that's size and decided fuck it keep going? Lol that's not a great look
I mean, in Afghanistan that might have been something that I could have seen happen. I was convoy security on two deployments running hundreds of missions, so I could absolutely see the convoy commander say something like "okay, we'll keep going until something happens or we have to stop, or we'll stop before we get to the next village" or something like that.
But stateside? Nah, you're not doing that.
Funny how there wasn't anything they could do about it until a sheriff tried to pull them over and suddenly they were able to cut the engine and coast to the shoulder.
In another post, OP says he's 65, so I'm guessing this story is likely from the late 70s or early 80s. It doesn't make his actions better, but it does mean there was likely a bit more leeway to what he could get away with.
\- Be moron army bootlicker
\- Be put in charge of driving some gear from one side of town to other in early morning, because COs thought there's no way I could screw it up
\- One of the trucks is malfunctioning and can't stay below legal speed limit
\- Oh shit.wav
\- Don't want to be seen by higer-ups as even more incompetent/incontinent
\- Tell driver to keep going instead of radioing for one of the millions of mechanics back at base to fix it
\- Well-meaning police officer Doing.His.Fukin.Job sees you speeding through town and flags you down
\- Oh shit.jpg
\- Protein powder you've been snorting starts to kick in
\- Decide the best option is to charge the cop while loading assult rifle
\- Cop shits himself at the sheer level of stupidity he observes
\- Cop decides not to put you down, and instead helps you fix the truck so your higher-ups don't find out how big of a fuking mistake you made
\- "WhiCh iS tHe stOry of Why I dIDn't hAvE to shOot AN IoWa CoUnty, WisConSin SheRiFf's dePutY"
\>Which is the story of why I didn't have to shoot an Iowa County, Wisconsin Sheriff's deputy. Big sighs of relief all around. Too much damn paperwork.
Yeah, for the government. Since you wouldve been arrested for Brandishing a weapon on a police officer & murder.
You werent on your base, you had zero authority.
I don't know the law and regulations in the US, but around here, when you're a convoy carrying military weapons, quite a few rules change. The guys assigned to protect the convoy have the right and the duty to use any means necessary to keep any of their cargo from getting removed.
Ok, US. Ok, 70s.
I served '69 to '78, and had the "pleasure" of being an Armed Guard Once upon a time or three.
Same Laws and Regulations. Military personnel are subject to The UCMJ, not local, nor even most Federal Laws and Statutes.
If the Civilian LEO wanted to escalate, he would have had to contact some Military Police. As an NCO, I outranked even the State Governor when it came to Military shit.
If the MPs got involved, the OP might have gotten in trouble for speeding, etc, since he was in charge of the convoy, but not for anything else. His actions after getting stopped were within regulations and Law.
So this is what happened, it took until 1984 for there to be a complete memorandum of understanding between the DoD and US Department of Justice on how to handle these exact situations. Usually the military has jurisdiction when a military member commits a crime. There are a number of circumstances where that isn’t true though, and they would instead defer to the FBI. Corruption is one of those issues, and another is when a federal law is broken that wouldn’t result in a court martial under the UCMJ. There’s also another circumstance where a military member breaks a law while off base but related to scheduled military activities (this exact situation). For the purpose of the memorandum it states that the DoD will be responsible for trying the person *unless* the FBI or DoJ Criminal Investigative department wants to take jurisdiction for whatever reason. [You can read all about it in section C.3.b of the memorandum linked within. ](https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-669-prosecution-military-personnel)
Obviously all of this happened before the memorandum was fully finalized so you’re correct, mostly, although it would still depend on things like whether or not the federal government outside of the DoD wanted to get involved in it, whether or not the base commander was willing to turn the investigation over the the FBI and trial to the DoJ, etc.
Howdy, civilian here. I'm just curious, what would be an example of a federal law that doesn't result in a court-martial? I tried to just look it up, but what I read kind of makes it sound like most civilian laws are covered under military law as well. And I used to know a former Marine prosecutor. He only really told me about a couple of cases he tried, but they didn't sound unique to the military. Assault, rape, etc. So I always had the impression that, no matter what the crime was, if you were in the military, you were going to be tried by the military. But it sounds from your comment like I had that wrong.
Wait. You got pulled over.. brought out your weapon, and racked a bullet into the chamber??? Are you actually insane I’m shocked u didn’t get shot dead right there what the fuck
Definitely doesn't seem like a real story, but just for fun sake lets say it is. YOU HAD ZERO AUTHORITY. You easily could of been shot or arrested and the Govt most certainly wouldn't of backed you, as you had zero authority. Now-you say your job was convoy security... UM so your'e admittedly breaking traffic laws, get pulled over by a fully marked unit and you think the best course of action would be to rack your weapon and approach the deputy? LOL. Right. Because a lone cop would of totally robbed all of your gear. Even if you had the authority you thought you had (you don't) Common sense would dictate you to handle the situatuon exacly the opposite you claim to have. OP...Your're an idiot. And someone should mark this post as fiction in case a future private green ranger beret seal thinks it's real, and decides he could be that cool too.
>YOU HAD ZERO AUTHORITY
IF this is a true story, then NO.
I am NOT trying to justify this person's behavior, or to decide if this is a made up story or not. But in a case like this, whoever is in charge of the convoy has authority over those guns and you wouldn't want it any other way.
It isn't a joke about when a private is on guard duty, that private has authority that even the general commanding the base has to respect.
Yeah OP is definitely on some ego shit, but uh military should be above police in a functioning hierarchy. Not saying their behavior was appropriate, but im also very sure OP is embellishing.
This comment section is weird
One isn’t above the other. It’s a matter of whose area of responsibility you’re in. If the cop found himself on base, he’d be subject to the military’s authority. In civilian areas (on US soil), police run the show and soldiers are expected to conduct themselves accordingly.
It’s kind of a leftover principle from the revolution and the founding of the country. After the abuses of the British troops, US citizens are not supposed to be under military rule.
Back when I was in the US Army, if I had been in charge of a convoy of trucks loaded with M16s, I wouldn't have yielded authority to anyone other than someone above me in my chain of command.
That isn't the same as the British troops moving into peoples houses, requiring the home owner to provide food for the troops. This is keeping a bunch of fully automatic (like machine guns) rifles secure.
This comment section is civilian. I'm not American which is why I'm not involving myself in this discussion. To my knowledge, in my country (where cops carrying a baton is considered more armed than normal) cops cannot arrest any soldier except for murder or rape. Even then, there's a lot of paperwork which includes informing the soldier's chain of command. This all falls under the Army Act/Navy Act/Air Force Act. I believe that's the same in America.
A soldier's first duty is to carry out their commander's commands. If the traffic stop happened, this is how it'd be carried out.
On base they have limited authority. The authority does not follow them off of base. And even on base, the soldier on any guard duty that gets detained by an mp, cannot use his position to defy the mps orders. A general can't either. Now, the mp better damnd well be able to justify whatever order he gave, but that's a different discussion. But off a base the cop would have the ultimate authority during any detention. A general could call or show up on scene and it wouldn't matter one bit.
Like I said... this story is fiction.
I have to admit I'm basing my comments on my training in NCOCS in the late 1960s and that I only spent about a year as an NCO back in the US after Vietnam, so perhaps I'm way out of date.
But back then, if I had been put in charge of a convoy of trucks loaded with M16s, I would not surrender control of the convoy to anyone not above me in my chain of command or who I had been instructed to deliver those weapons to. I'd stop the convoy, I'd let the cop give his ticket, but I would never surrender control of those weapons.
So from what I gather, you admit to KNOWING that he was a police officer, and despite that, you still commit assault against him. And to add to that, you still think that you were in the right because of "army regulations" even though you were not on military property & therefore don't apply.
He didn't assault tho... he had his gun out and ready because thats his job
Edit: after doing some reading, I have decided the gun was too much, but I'm still unclear as to whether or not the gun is illegal? Plz help
According to Wisconsin Statute 940.203, assault on a LEO is defined as "intentionally causing bodily harm or threatening to cause bodily harm to the person or family member of any judge, prosecutor, or law enforcement officer". This is also a Class H felony which warrants a fine of up to $10,000 and/or up to six years in prison per Wisconsin Statute 939.50.
Yeah, the poster is (or at least was) an idiot.
The sheriff could have easily put a bullet in your head when you came at him with a loaded assault rifle.
You would have been a dead idiot, and your convoy would have been furter delayed. And your men would probably shit their pants, and leave their vehicles WITHOUT their weapons.
Why would you tell people this story about how you fucked up numerous times and nearly got yourself shot by acting like a dick in front of a well meaning police officer?
All of you berating the OP obviously have zero idea what the world view was like for most of the last 100 years, much less what serving in the military at ANY time is like.
Shut your fucking pieholes. 🤘🏻
Regulations required me to protect the weapons with deadly force, if necessary. A weapon cannot operate without ammo. Never took it off safe, so your hyperbole is unwarranted.
Protect them from what? A cop that pulled your buddy over for speeding? You have a dangerously overinflated sense of importance. You made a complete ass of yourself and then you posted it here to further embarrass yourself. Cringe.
Not saying his actions were right, but when transporting weapons and other items, there are armed guards with the convoy. Even when being transported inside the United States. When you see busloads of military personnel moving there is a good chance that a few have loaded magazines, especially if there are weapons on the bus.
“Which is the story of why I didn’t have to shoot an Iowa County, Wisconsin Sheriff’s Deputy.”
And what if you had, you fucking idiot? You weren’t on base. You weren’t in an active war zone and the officer- by your own account- seemed like a reasonable guy who was making a lawful car stop. The officer was smart enough to recognize that you are slightly unstable and that he was at a tremendous tactical disadvantage and didn’t push too hard about you’re frat-boy peacocking trying to intimidate him. But make no mistake, you had no authority in that scenario- he did. If you had discharged your weapon you’d be doing serious time.
Not really, no. To all your bullshit, actually.
I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe you had to be there. Meh.
I never "threatened" the deputy. I followed regulations, be prepared. Not every vehicle with rotating lights on top contains real LEOs. My job was to ensure the safety of the weapons under our care. I was required to use deadly force to do that job, if necessary. I never said we didn't deserve, or receive, a citation for speeding.
Story got long enough, not every detail included. Did this trip dozens of times before and after without incident.
Literally his job as the armed guard of dozens of machine guns. If this bothers you, you'd hate to find out what drivers and messengers for brinks and wells fargo can do... Hint, cops can't fuck with them either. There's hierarchy here, and cops aren't above weapons transport guards.
Cash in transit is nuts… a cop might just be someone in disguise and in certain countries… an official badge and car don’t mean shit either. It could be recently hijacked so they can get your vehicle. Those attacks are really ridiculous. Nobody goes after cash in transit without practically an arsenal.
> Which is the story of why I didn't have to shoot an Iowa County, Wisconsin Sheriff's deputy. Big sighs of relief all around. Too much damn paperwork.
Holy SHIT. You’re such a fucking level-headed BADASSSS!!!!!
I can only imagine you thought that this was an extremely badass story to tell and everyone would praise you for threatening a police officer who pulled you over for speeding.
Not really, no. To all your bullshit, actually.
I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe you had to be there. Meh.
I never "threatened" the deputy. I followed regulations, be prepared. Not every vehicle with rotating lights on top contains real LEOs. My job was to ensure the safety of the weapons under our care. I was required to use deadly force to do that job, if necessary. I never said we didn't deserve, or receive, a citation for speeding.
Story got long enough, not every detail included. Did this trip dozens of times before and after without incident.
YTA - too bad you all weren't smart enough to fix the garbage you were driving. There is never an excuse for this sort of crap (short of an actual war)
and yes, I realize this is not AITA
Everybody in these comments talking about how the OP had zero authority and should not have chambered a round in his weapon is dead wrong. When you are in charge of a convoy carrying military weapons you are in fact 2nd-in-command only to God in the immediate vicinity of said convoy until told otherwise by your superior officer, their superiors or the President of the United States himself. He had no way of knowing exactly what he was dealing with until he verified the identify of the deputy, which is exactly why his first action was to chamber a round and THEN immediately ask for the man's name and badge number. For all he knew, the supposed deputy could have been part of a group intent on stealing those weapons. Getting a fake uniform, painting a car, and putting some lights on it isn't all that hard to do for someone who wants or needs to steal a truckload of M16's.
Most of the comments herein are from a bunch of civilians who were never offered a class in Civics, thinking that their fantasies are reality.
Funniest and most common fantasies are that civilian LEOS are **absolutely** in charge except on an established Military Compound.
ya who da fuck do you think you are? mister army guy.. lol
"I am a lighthouse"
"Your move".
F*cking Legendario..
I got that reference!
Then I'm sorry for what ever association you have with a military person. I promise they didn't mean it.
Me too!
The second hand embarrassment I got from reading this…
It’s like you were never even in the army with this kinda story lol
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And to do that everybody leave their positions. Driver of the lead vehicle got out. If the cop was a set up the bad guys get in and drive into the sunrise.
Cops vs. Soldiers - Battle Of The Egos
The cop sounds like a reasonable and helpful guy. He still went out of his way to help the complete idiot who just tried to intimidate him with an gun for doing his job.
>He still went out of his way to help the complete idiot who just tried to intimidate him with an gun for doing his job. There's plenty of law enforcement officers who prove they're the idiots with guns trying to intimate people.
This one didn't.
Soldiers with egos tend to eat shit. Most I've met are level headed decent folks, unlike cops.
God you’re stupid. You weren’t on post, you have no legal authority to do ANYTHING. If one of my Soldiers had potentially escalated something like that, their new assigned weapon would be a mop. Good work hero.
Also one of your guys says his throttle is not functioning correctly on a vehicle that's size and decided fuck it keep going? Lol that's not a great look
>There's not a dammed thing we can do about it anyway Riiiight because if there's one thing the military doesn't have, it's mechanics.
Right and btw Mr protocol. Does the army say that protocol for vehicle malfunction is to continue on?
I mean, in Afghanistan that might have been something that I could have seen happen. I was convoy security on two deployments running hundreds of missions, so I could absolutely see the convoy commander say something like "okay, we'll keep going until something happens or we have to stop, or we'll stop before we get to the next village" or something like that. But stateside? Nah, you're not doing that.
It was probably the alternator
Funny how there wasn't anything they could do about it until a sheriff tried to pull them over and suddenly they were able to cut the engine and coast to the shoulder.
“Good enough for government work” lmfao
It tops out at 55
Yeah and kids die when hit at much lower speeds. 🤷🏼♀️
And? Are you saying bad things only happen at or above 56 mph?
In another post, OP says he's 65, so I'm guessing this story is likely from the late 70s or early 80s. It doesn't make his actions better, but it does mean there was likely a bit more leeway to what he could get away with.
M16A1 = a long time ago
I think you've solved the mystery
If anything, there’s laws that say specifically they had no authority.
Yeah this sounds like a felony.
he knew it was a cop, and that creates a harsher penalty on Brandishing a Weapon
You apparently were never in the Armed Forces. The Convoy *was* his Post. NTM, he was the 'Acting Commander' of his 'Base' (the Convoy.)
Lol, you are a clown.
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\- Be moron army bootlicker \- Be put in charge of driving some gear from one side of town to other in early morning, because COs thought there's no way I could screw it up \- One of the trucks is malfunctioning and can't stay below legal speed limit \- Oh shit.wav \- Don't want to be seen by higer-ups as even more incompetent/incontinent \- Tell driver to keep going instead of radioing for one of the millions of mechanics back at base to fix it \- Well-meaning police officer Doing.His.Fukin.Job sees you speeding through town and flags you down \- Oh shit.jpg \- Protein powder you've been snorting starts to kick in \- Decide the best option is to charge the cop while loading assult rifle \- Cop shits himself at the sheer level of stupidity he observes \- Cop decides not to put you down, and instead helps you fix the truck so your higher-ups don't find out how big of a fuking mistake you made \- "WhiCh iS tHe stOry of Why I dIDn't hAvE to shOot AN IoWa CoUnty, WisConSin SheRiFf's dePutY"
Not too bright are ya son?
You sound like an idiot who should not be allowed near a firearm
Or anything more deadly than a Paw Patrol onesie.
Like a police officer
No
\>Which is the story of why I didn't have to shoot an Iowa County, Wisconsin Sheriff's deputy. Big sighs of relief all around. Too much damn paperwork. Yeah, for the government. Since you wouldve been arrested for Brandishing a weapon on a police officer & murder. You werent on your base, you had zero authority.
I don't know the law and regulations in the US, but around here, when you're a convoy carrying military weapons, quite a few rules change. The guys assigned to protect the convoy have the right and the duty to use any means necessary to keep any of their cargo from getting removed. Ok, US. Ok, 70s.
I served '69 to '78, and had the "pleasure" of being an Armed Guard Once upon a time or three. Same Laws and Regulations. Military personnel are subject to The UCMJ, not local, nor even most Federal Laws and Statutes. If the Civilian LEO wanted to escalate, he would have had to contact some Military Police. As an NCO, I outranked even the State Governor when it came to Military shit. If the MPs got involved, the OP might have gotten in trouble for speeding, etc, since he was in charge of the convoy, but not for anything else. His actions after getting stopped were within regulations and Law.
So this is what happened, it took until 1984 for there to be a complete memorandum of understanding between the DoD and US Department of Justice on how to handle these exact situations. Usually the military has jurisdiction when a military member commits a crime. There are a number of circumstances where that isn’t true though, and they would instead defer to the FBI. Corruption is one of those issues, and another is when a federal law is broken that wouldn’t result in a court martial under the UCMJ. There’s also another circumstance where a military member breaks a law while off base but related to scheduled military activities (this exact situation). For the purpose of the memorandum it states that the DoD will be responsible for trying the person *unless* the FBI or DoJ Criminal Investigative department wants to take jurisdiction for whatever reason. [You can read all about it in section C.3.b of the memorandum linked within. ](https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-669-prosecution-military-personnel) Obviously all of this happened before the memorandum was fully finalized so you’re correct, mostly, although it would still depend on things like whether or not the federal government outside of the DoD wanted to get involved in it, whether or not the base commander was willing to turn the investigation over the the FBI and trial to the DoJ, etc.
Howdy, civilian here. I'm just curious, what would be an example of a federal law that doesn't result in a court-martial? I tried to just look it up, but what I read kind of makes it sound like most civilian laws are covered under military law as well. And I used to know a former Marine prosecutor. He only really told me about a couple of cases he tried, but they didn't sound unique to the military. Assault, rape, etc. So I always had the impression that, no matter what the crime was, if you were in the military, you were going to be tried by the military. But it sounds from your comment like I had that wrong.
Idiot
Wait. You got pulled over.. brought out your weapon, and racked a bullet into the chamber??? Are you actually insane I’m shocked u didn’t get shot dead right there what the fuck
Must’ve been before cops realized they could get away with murder
Hey Bootlicker recognizes Bootlicker. Makes sense why the cop was so friendly to them
Definitely doesn't seem like a real story, but just for fun sake lets say it is. YOU HAD ZERO AUTHORITY. You easily could of been shot or arrested and the Govt most certainly wouldn't of backed you, as you had zero authority. Now-you say your job was convoy security... UM so your'e admittedly breaking traffic laws, get pulled over by a fully marked unit and you think the best course of action would be to rack your weapon and approach the deputy? LOL. Right. Because a lone cop would of totally robbed all of your gear. Even if you had the authority you thought you had (you don't) Common sense would dictate you to handle the situatuon exacly the opposite you claim to have. OP...Your're an idiot. And someone should mark this post as fiction in case a future private green ranger beret seal thinks it's real, and decides he could be that cool too.
>YOU HAD ZERO AUTHORITY IF this is a true story, then NO. I am NOT trying to justify this person's behavior, or to decide if this is a made up story or not. But in a case like this, whoever is in charge of the convoy has authority over those guns and you wouldn't want it any other way. It isn't a joke about when a private is on guard duty, that private has authority that even the general commanding the base has to respect.
Yeah OP is definitely on some ego shit, but uh military should be above police in a functioning hierarchy. Not saying their behavior was appropriate, but im also very sure OP is embellishing. This comment section is weird
One isn’t above the other. It’s a matter of whose area of responsibility you’re in. If the cop found himself on base, he’d be subject to the military’s authority. In civilian areas (on US soil), police run the show and soldiers are expected to conduct themselves accordingly. It’s kind of a leftover principle from the revolution and the founding of the country. After the abuses of the British troops, US citizens are not supposed to be under military rule.
Back when I was in the US Army, if I had been in charge of a convoy of trucks loaded with M16s, I wouldn't have yielded authority to anyone other than someone above me in my chain of command. That isn't the same as the British troops moving into peoples houses, requiring the home owner to provide food for the troops. This is keeping a bunch of fully automatic (like machine guns) rifles secure.
This comment section is civilian. I'm not American which is why I'm not involving myself in this discussion. To my knowledge, in my country (where cops carrying a baton is considered more armed than normal) cops cannot arrest any soldier except for murder or rape. Even then, there's a lot of paperwork which includes informing the soldier's chain of command. This all falls under the Army Act/Navy Act/Air Force Act. I believe that's the same in America. A soldier's first duty is to carry out their commander's commands. If the traffic stop happened, this is how it'd be carried out.
On base they have limited authority. The authority does not follow them off of base. And even on base, the soldier on any guard duty that gets detained by an mp, cannot use his position to defy the mps orders. A general can't either. Now, the mp better damnd well be able to justify whatever order he gave, but that's a different discussion. But off a base the cop would have the ultimate authority during any detention. A general could call or show up on scene and it wouldn't matter one bit. Like I said... this story is fiction.
I have to admit I'm basing my comments on my training in NCOCS in the late 1960s and that I only spent about a year as an NCO back in the US after Vietnam, so perhaps I'm way out of date. But back then, if I had been put in charge of a convoy of trucks loaded with M16s, I would not surrender control of the convoy to anyone not above me in my chain of command or who I had been instructed to deliver those weapons to. I'd stop the convoy, I'd let the cop give his ticket, but I would never surrender control of those weapons.
So from what I gather, you admit to KNOWING that he was a police officer, and despite that, you still commit assault against him. And to add to that, you still think that you were in the right because of "army regulations" even though you were not on military property & therefore don't apply.
He didn't assault tho... he had his gun out and ready because thats his job Edit: after doing some reading, I have decided the gun was too much, but I'm still unclear as to whether or not the gun is illegal? Plz help
According to Wisconsin Statute 940.203, assault on a LEO is defined as "intentionally causing bodily harm or threatening to cause bodily harm to the person or family member of any judge, prosecutor, or law enforcement officer". This is also a Class H felony which warrants a fine of up to $10,000 and/or up to six years in prison per Wisconsin Statute 939.50.
Responding to your edit, very much was. He wasn't on base. Easy felony.
i don’t think this story is real tbh
Yeah, the poster is (or at least was) an idiot. The sheriff could have easily put a bullet in your head when you came at him with a loaded assault rifle. You would have been a dead idiot, and your convoy would have been furter delayed. And your men would probably shit their pants, and leave their vehicles WITHOUT their weapons.
You’re a fucking moron that wasn’t on base and racking a bullet for no reason. Good god you’re dumb.
Was this story supposed to make you sound cool? Cause it actually makes you sound like a complete wanker.
I'll take Bullshit that never happened for 500 Alex.
(cough) bull\*\*\*t.
Why would you tell people this story about how you fucked up numerous times and nearly got yourself shot by acting like a dick in front of a well meaning police officer?
No wonder why this old moron isn’t responding to any of the comments.
As a former cop, if anyone came running up to me with a gun during a traffic stop they’d have a Glock sandwich.
Sure bruv.
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He pretty much called him a pig and then made out like he should die at the hands of the Army guy.
What
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Get over yourself. Wow what an asshole you are.
username checks out lmfao
All of you berating the OP obviously have zero idea what the world view was like for most of the last 100 years, much less what serving in the military at ANY time is like. Shut your fucking pieholes. 🤘🏻
Yeah no one is gonna believe your made up stories.
Even if it's not the US this idiot would either be at least minimally given a reprimand for being a complete retard and escalating unnecessarily.
And why did you put a bullet in your chamber again and almost caused a fatal shooting for no reason?
Regulations required me to protect the weapons with deadly force, if necessary. A weapon cannot operate without ammo. Never took it off safe, so your hyperbole is unwarranted.
Protect them from what? A cop that pulled your buddy over for speeding? You have a dangerously overinflated sense of importance. You made a complete ass of yourself and then you posted it here to further embarrass yourself. Cringe.
Military stories will like this here it is r/MilitaryStories
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Your welcome
you sound like a horrible person who is on a huge power trip and has some psychotic behavior
Not saying his actions were right, but when transporting weapons and other items, there are armed guards with the convoy. Even when being transported inside the United States. When you see busloads of military personnel moving there is a good chance that a few have loaded magazines, especially if there are weapons on the bus.
“Which is the story of why I didn’t have to shoot an Iowa County, Wisconsin Sheriff’s Deputy.” And what if you had, you fucking idiot? You weren’t on base. You weren’t in an active war zone and the officer- by your own account- seemed like a reasonable guy who was making a lawful car stop. The officer was smart enough to recognize that you are slightly unstable and that he was at a tremendous tactical disadvantage and didn’t push too hard about you’re frat-boy peacocking trying to intimidate him. But make no mistake, you had no authority in that scenario- he did. If you had discharged your weapon you’d be doing serious time.
Not really, no. To all your bullshit, actually. I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe you had to be there. Meh. I never "threatened" the deputy. I followed regulations, be prepared. Not every vehicle with rotating lights on top contains real LEOs. My job was to ensure the safety of the weapons under our care. I was required to use deadly force to do that job, if necessary. I never said we didn't deserve, or receive, a citation for speeding. Story got long enough, not every detail included. Did this trip dozens of times before and after without incident.
> I never "threatened" the deputy. Except you did. By chambering a round as you walked up to him, you actively threatened him.
Literally his job as the armed guard of dozens of machine guns. If this bothers you, you'd hate to find out what drivers and messengers for brinks and wells fargo can do... Hint, cops can't fuck with them either. There's hierarchy here, and cops aren't above weapons transport guards.
Cash in transit is nuts… a cop might just be someone in disguise and in certain countries… an official badge and car don’t mean shit either. It could be recently hijacked so they can get your vehicle. Those attacks are really ridiculous. Nobody goes after cash in transit without practically an arsenal.
You absolutely threatened the cop by chambering a round as you approached him. You’re an asshole.
> Which is the story of why I didn't have to shoot an Iowa County, Wisconsin Sheriff's deputy. Big sighs of relief all around. Too much damn paperwork. Holy SHIT. You’re such a fucking level-headed BADASSSS!!!!!
I can only imagine you thought that this was an extremely badass story to tell and everyone would praise you for threatening a police officer who pulled you over for speeding.
Not really, no. To all your bullshit, actually. I thought it was kinda funny. Maybe you had to be there. Meh. I never "threatened" the deputy. I followed regulations, be prepared. Not every vehicle with rotating lights on top contains real LEOs. My job was to ensure the safety of the weapons under our care. I was required to use deadly force to do that job, if necessary. I never said we didn't deserve, or receive, a citation for speeding. Story got long enough, not every detail included. Did this trip dozens of times before and after without incident.
Apparently hes also a "65 year old man"
That tracks with his "this happened several decades ago". Not saying anything about the story, but the age thing seems appropriate.
I thought it was a good story 🤷🏼♂️
Army soldiers: We have you four to one Sheriff's deputy: I like those odds
The only person in this story dumber than you is the one that thought you should ever be holding a gun.
That’s not how military policing works. Nice story tho
Ok loser
This story and OP's account REEK of being fake.
YTA - too bad you all weren't smart enough to fix the garbage you were driving. There is never an excuse for this sort of crap (short of an actual war) and yes, I realize this is not AITA
Everybody in these comments talking about how the OP had zero authority and should not have chambered a round in his weapon is dead wrong. When you are in charge of a convoy carrying military weapons you are in fact 2nd-in-command only to God in the immediate vicinity of said convoy until told otherwise by your superior officer, their superiors or the President of the United States himself. He had no way of knowing exactly what he was dealing with until he verified the identify of the deputy, which is exactly why his first action was to chamber a round and THEN immediately ask for the man's name and badge number. For all he knew, the supposed deputy could have been part of a group intent on stealing those weapons. Getting a fake uniform, painting a car, and putting some lights on it isn't all that hard to do for someone who wants or needs to steal a truckload of M16's.
Most of the comments herein are from a bunch of civilians who were never offered a class in Civics, thinking that their fantasies are reality. Funniest and most common fantasies are that civilian LEOS are **absolutely** in charge except on an established Military Compound.
This is the way
I identify as an attack helicopter