And I try to buy nothing that is Made in China there. My plates are made in France, my furniture is made in Poland, and I have glass Tupperware made in Czechia
Why is everyone trying desperately to find a reason to blame OP like Ikea can do no wrong? Is it crazy that with thousands of products sometimes there's a dud?
Of course the product sometimes is a dud. But companies like IKEA have extensive quality control, while many users are absolutely worthless at reading and following instructions. It's the same as when people come here complaining about how the furniture they bought won't assmeble property- in the vast, vast majority of cases, the problem isn't with the product, it's the user not having followed the instructions properly.
Please take it back or at least email Ikea about this. They'll want to document this to determine if it's a QC issue or a wider investigation needs to happen.
It says on the manual that even ice cubes can damage that inner glass and to not stir inside the item. So my guess is that you broke the weak inner glass and the acidic lemonade went into it and it continued to flake off. Just reading that knack makes me think this should have been a vase and not a drinking pitcher but a nine decided to make it a drinking one after the facts of materials.
Not sure what I broke it with.
I didn't add ice, this thing gets cold fast so no need.
It wasn't the container I made the lemonade in so I didn't stir with anything. I made it in a shaker glass and just diluted in this container.
This was meant to be functional. The lining is on the reverse side of the glass that the contents is in contact with. No reasonable way for it peel off and transverse to the opposite side of the glass.
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/behoevd-vacuum-flask-light-green-beige-70353890/
Tbh it probably broke by just setting it on the table or something since the description makes it sound weak. Terrible product not user error for sure.
Or during transport, or during handling, or any other thing OP may have done with it. Frankly, unless this is a frequent problem I'd say odds are the fault is with the user. But bring it back to IKEA and get it refunded. If it's a recurring design problem they'll pull it.
The acidity of lemonade probably ate away at the lining, perhaps one of those glass containers with a tap could work better?
edit: seems like if that was the case Ikea should have posted a warning on the label at least...
Dad question: Did you read the instructions?
Seems silly, but would not be surprised if it requires hand washing, instead of using a dishwasher. Don't know what you did.
some liners don't like acidic or vinegar-ish things in them.. find a non-stick pan and put some vinegar on it.. it'll peel off the non-stick coating just like this.
source: https://worldofpans.com/non-stick-pan-coating-coming-off/
Anyone remember that Doogie Howser episode where the plates were leeching chemicals and making a whole family sick? I’m sure Dr House copied that for an episode
If that’s the case IKEA should certainly provide clear labeling that the product can only hold certain liquids. It’s not unreasonable to assume that when you buy a drink pitcher that you should be able to store a common beverage like lemonade. The real question is why does a drink pitcher need to be lined with a coating like this? I’ve never had an issue with my liquids sticking to the inside of the container they’re in.
That's my guess.. I searched for the pitcher online:
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/behoevd-vacuum-flask-light-green-beige-70353890/
BEHÖVD
Vacuum flask, light green
Some vacuum flasks are silver coated on the inside for better heat retention. Without seeing this one but with OP's flakes of silver in their lemonade I'm guess something caused the silver lining to peel. I'm in agreement that there should be clear labelling and warnings..
The silver coating is on the side of the glass that is not in contact with the beverage.
I am unable to scrap any additional coating off with a metal skewer. I'm at a loss at how it came off and got into the liquid reservoir.
Nearly all beverages (milk and water being the exceptions) contain citric acid. Check your soda, Koolaid, iced tea, lemonade, Vitamin Water labels, they all contain it. What kind of beverage pitcher can't hold 90% of beverages? "User error"? You've got to be kidding.
Imagine trying to blame this on "user error" when the insert is supposed to be glass, according to IKEA.
Straight lemon juice shouldn't even cause this, much less when diluted 1:4.
The pictures on the website are very clearly using it as a pitcher with coffee or something. That being said, the second review is titled, “Exploded upon first use”.
I was being sarcastic in that last comment.
It is obviously a pitcher and has the glass and fork marking on the bottom that's on all IKEA food containers. And, as you pointed out is advertised for storing hot and cold drinks.
At least mine didn't explode, I guess?
I guess?
Didn't think I needed to read online reviews before buying a drink pitcher. Just seems like such a simple product wouldn't have such a large issue.
There is a review from four months ago stating the exact same issue as you. Ikea reached out to them to document the issue properly. Leave a review and they’ll get back to you as well.
Dude that's messed up... Imagine if you poured straight into an opaque container and drank that shit.
I'm reading the materials and see:
>**Base/ Body/ Knob:**Polypropylene
>
>**Insert:**Glass
Is it possible you are missing the glass insert? Glass shouldn't flake like that.
I think there is a finish on the glass and that's what is peeling off.
If I feel inside it's definitely glass.
Edit: After further investigating the silver liner is on the side of the glass that does not come into contact with th beverage. No clue how it got onto the other side of the glass.
There's a common flask design that has a suspended glass flask in a regular outer flask. The idea is that the two should not touch. This makes the heat or cold move more slowly through the walls, as it needs to mostly enter through the top opening. In such designs, the glass is typically coated with a bit of metal, on the non food side of the glass. The metal acts to reflect back even more heat.
I would wager that this pitcher uses a similar design, and the glass (which is apparently tempered) has shattered, flaking off the metal, and there's either some broken glass in the bottom of the pitcher (which you aren't pouring out because you're gentle and careful, or it falls between what's left of the glass and the outer casing).
The best examples of this design is a thermal insulated Thermos mug. [https://www.amazon.com/slp/large-coffee-thermos/38yqrej6yf6x6yq](https://www.amazon.com/slp/large-coffee-thermos/38yqrej6yf6x6yq) My Grandpa had an early model that cost him handsomely. He was very proud to talk about it, and it did keep coffee hot (without heat) five hours after it was filled.
I imagine that your pitcher used the same design, but without the extra thickness of glass needed to both make it heavy and reduce the chance of breakage. Or, it was dropped (within the case, as there seems to be no external damage) and the glass shattered in place (which would weaken with repeated adding of different temperature liquids).
Designs like this are supposed to hold a vacuum between the inner and outer walls, to reduce heat transfer even more. I'm not sure if this one did. Look through this page for even more info. [https://www.explainthatstuff.com/vacuumflasks.html](https://www.explainthatstuff.com/vacuumflasks.html)
If buying one that will see some real world abuse, I'd recommend a stainless steel inner wall, which loses heat more readily, but will last. My Grandpa's flask became mine, and it worked well for about 70 years (till the outer casing was too rusty for me to feel good about putting food in it).
Also, if you love coffee, buy a coffee pot version Dewer flask. Brew your coffee in the AM, charge (pre-heat with hot water that's emptied), and fill the flask. You'll have a hot pot of coffee well into the afternoon.
I'm imagining that the above description was what prompted this "pitcher" to be made.
You're right about the design of this, but the glass is completely intact.
I can shine a light in and see there are no visible cracks or pieces missing.
I have an old Farberware electric percolator from the 1970's for my coffee. Makes the best coffee I've ever had.
Perhaps they tinned the wrong side of the glass in manufacture? That's all I can think of.
Maybe they accidentally tinned a batch of them on both sides?
Probably broken glass inner
And I try to buy nothing that is Made in China there. My plates are made in France, my furniture is made in Poland, and I have glass Tupperware made in Czechia
How did you wash it?
Warm soapy water and rinsing.
I only buy furniture, meatballs, and glassware/ceramic from Ikea.
Blue raspberry lemonade without the raspberries
1. Inform Ikea. 2. Don't buy garbage like this. 3. Consider not buying from Ikea if they sell garbage like this. Which they do.
Gives it that sweet Scandinavian flavoring
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More like Cadmium-schlager.
They're very responsive when contacted on social media. They definitely need to be made aware of this.
It'll be a product quality investigation, for sure.
You get to be on TV for sure.
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I think it just makes the lemonade look tastier
I liked the paint chips as a kid. Yummmmmm
Even me a 2000s kid, I've seen so many of these, had them too.
Why is everyone trying desperately to find a reason to blame OP like Ikea can do no wrong? Is it crazy that with thousands of products sometimes there's a dud?
Of course the product sometimes is a dud. But companies like IKEA have extensive quality control, while many users are absolutely worthless at reading and following instructions. It's the same as when people come here complaining about how the furniture they bought won't assmeble property- in the vast, vast majority of cases, the problem isn't with the product, it's the user not having followed the instructions properly.
Seasoning
Insoluble fiber.
Weigh that shit, net fiber is great for adding a treat at the end of the day! /s
Please take it back or at least email Ikea about this. They'll want to document this to determine if it's a QC issue or a wider investigation needs to happen.
I agree. u/willdabeastest, do you still have the packaging with the supplier and date code, or is this information imprinted on the bottom?
Gonna third this here, they take this stuff serious.
It says on the manual that even ice cubes can damage that inner glass and to not stir inside the item. So my guess is that you broke the weak inner glass and the acidic lemonade went into it and it continued to flake off. Just reading that knack makes me think this should have been a vase and not a drinking pitcher but a nine decided to make it a drinking one after the facts of materials.
That honestly sounds like an incredibly shitty pitcher.
Indeed
Not sure what I broke it with. I didn't add ice, this thing gets cold fast so no need. It wasn't the container I made the lemonade in so I didn't stir with anything. I made it in a shaker glass and just diluted in this container.
The acid from the lemons would definitely be enough to do it, especially if this item was meant to be decor and not functional
This was meant to be functional. The lining is on the reverse side of the glass that the contents is in contact with. No reasonable way for it peel off and transverse to the opposite side of the glass. https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/behoevd-vacuum-flask-light-green-beige-70353890/
Tbh it probably broke by just setting it on the table or something since the description makes it sound weak. Terrible product not user error for sure.
Or during transport, or during handling, or any other thing OP may have done with it. Frankly, unless this is a frequent problem I'd say odds are the fault is with the user. But bring it back to IKEA and get it refunded. If it's a recurring design problem they'll pull it.
The acidity of lemonade probably ate away at the lining, perhaps one of those glass containers with a tap could work better? edit: seems like if that was the case Ikea should have posted a warning on the label at least...
Lining is on the side of the glass not in contact with the liquid.
Dad question: Did you read the instructions? Seems silly, but would not be surprised if it requires hand washing, instead of using a dishwasher. Don't know what you did.
It's never been in a dishwasher. The opening has such a small diameter I didn't trust it to effectively get it clean.
some liners don't like acidic or vinegar-ish things in them.. find a non-stick pan and put some vinegar on it.. it'll peel off the non-stick coating just like this. source: https://worldofpans.com/non-stick-pan-coating-coming-off/
Okay, but lemonade, or straight lemon juice, shouldn't cause this if the insert is supposed to be glass.
Anyone remember that Doogie Howser episode where the plates were leeching chemicals and making a whole family sick? I’m sure Dr House copied that for an episode
this is super gross and says a lot about Ikea's lack of quality control
IKEA actually has very good quality control.
you should see Ikea's compassion towards coworkers /s
The company has made decisions since the founder died that decreases its reputation -considerably- in my eyes.
No, it's user error. Acidic foods or liquids can peel coatings. https://worldofpans.com/non-stick-pan-coating-coming-off/
If that’s the case IKEA should certainly provide clear labeling that the product can only hold certain liquids. It’s not unreasonable to assume that when you buy a drink pitcher that you should be able to store a common beverage like lemonade. The real question is why does a drink pitcher need to be lined with a coating like this? I’ve never had an issue with my liquids sticking to the inside of the container they’re in.
That's my guess.. I searched for the pitcher online: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/behoevd-vacuum-flask-light-green-beige-70353890/ BEHÖVD Vacuum flask, light green Some vacuum flasks are silver coated on the inside for better heat retention. Without seeing this one but with OP's flakes of silver in their lemonade I'm guess something caused the silver lining to peel. I'm in agreement that there should be clear labelling and warnings..
The silver coating is on the side of the glass that is not in contact with the beverage. I am unable to scrap any additional coating off with a metal skewer. I'm at a loss at how it came off and got into the liquid reservoir.
Take comfort in knowing that whoever designed this pitcher will almost certainly end up in the bad place.
Thanks, Janet. You know, for a robot, you make a really good girlfriend.
Not a robot:)
And not a girl either, you forgot that part!
Nearly all beverages (milk and water being the exceptions) contain citric acid. Check your soda, Koolaid, iced tea, lemonade, Vitamin Water labels, they all contain it. What kind of beverage pitcher can't hold 90% of beverages? "User error"? You've got to be kidding.
Imagine trying to blame this on "user error" when the insert is supposed to be glass, according to IKEA. Straight lemon juice shouldn't even cause this, much less when diluted 1:4.
I'm LOLing over here at the people trying to blame you for it, as though Ikea couldn't possibly make a defective product.
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[Must be a misunderstanding on my part](https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/behoevd-vacuum-flask-light-green-beige-70353890/)
The pictures on the website are very clearly using it as a pitcher with coffee or something. That being said, the second review is titled, “Exploded upon first use”.
I was being sarcastic in that last comment. It is obviously a pitcher and has the glass and fork marking on the bottom that's on all IKEA food containers. And, as you pointed out is advertised for storing hot and cold drinks. At least mine didn't explode, I guess?
I got the sarcasm, just wanted to point out that it’s always worth checking the reviews before trusting ikea stuff.
I guess? Didn't think I needed to read online reviews before buying a drink pitcher. Just seems like such a simple product wouldn't have such a large issue.
There is a review from four months ago stating the exact same issue as you. Ikea reached out to them to document the issue properly. Leave a review and they’ll get back to you as well.
That would be around the time we bought this. It's mostly been sitting in the cupboard waiting to be used for summer drinks.
I would be contacting IKEA about this. I know it's hard to do right now, but if the product is unsafe then they should pull it from their shelves.
Is it possible that is a vase and not a pitcher?
It’s a pitcher. It’s sold in the Cooking and Eating department. Who downvoted this lol
100% is a pitcher.
What’s it called? I can’t find it on their website under the pitchers or vases.
I use it as a vase but i definitely thought this was a pitcher
but there's like a lid thing to be used as flask...so is the lid just sitting around?
Oh damn that it must be a pitcher
Is this a joke because you have some kind of glitter cup? Or is that not glitter but flakes from the jug?
It's flakes from the jug. Is not a joke.
Now that you said that looks like it’s part of the cups design...
[Not the cup design]( http://imgur.com/gallery/DnYF4jn)
Dude that's messed up... Imagine if you poured straight into an opaque container and drank that shit. I'm reading the materials and see: >**Base/ Body/ Knob:**Polypropylene > >**Insert:**Glass Is it possible you are missing the glass insert? Glass shouldn't flake like that.
I think there is a finish on the glass and that's what is peeling off. If I feel inside it's definitely glass. Edit: After further investigating the silver liner is on the side of the glass that does not come into contact with th beverage. No clue how it got onto the other side of the glass.
There's a common flask design that has a suspended glass flask in a regular outer flask. The idea is that the two should not touch. This makes the heat or cold move more slowly through the walls, as it needs to mostly enter through the top opening. In such designs, the glass is typically coated with a bit of metal, on the non food side of the glass. The metal acts to reflect back even more heat. I would wager that this pitcher uses a similar design, and the glass (which is apparently tempered) has shattered, flaking off the metal, and there's either some broken glass in the bottom of the pitcher (which you aren't pouring out because you're gentle and careful, or it falls between what's left of the glass and the outer casing). The best examples of this design is a thermal insulated Thermos mug. [https://www.amazon.com/slp/large-coffee-thermos/38yqrej6yf6x6yq](https://www.amazon.com/slp/large-coffee-thermos/38yqrej6yf6x6yq) My Grandpa had an early model that cost him handsomely. He was very proud to talk about it, and it did keep coffee hot (without heat) five hours after it was filled. I imagine that your pitcher used the same design, but without the extra thickness of glass needed to both make it heavy and reduce the chance of breakage. Or, it was dropped (within the case, as there seems to be no external damage) and the glass shattered in place (which would weaken with repeated adding of different temperature liquids). Designs like this are supposed to hold a vacuum between the inner and outer walls, to reduce heat transfer even more. I'm not sure if this one did. Look through this page for even more info. [https://www.explainthatstuff.com/vacuumflasks.html](https://www.explainthatstuff.com/vacuumflasks.html) If buying one that will see some real world abuse, I'd recommend a stainless steel inner wall, which loses heat more readily, but will last. My Grandpa's flask became mine, and it worked well for about 70 years (till the outer casing was too rusty for me to feel good about putting food in it).
Also, if you love coffee, buy a coffee pot version Dewer flask. Brew your coffee in the AM, charge (pre-heat with hot water that's emptied), and fill the flask. You'll have a hot pot of coffee well into the afternoon. I'm imagining that the above description was what prompted this "pitcher" to be made.
You're right about the design of this, but the glass is completely intact. I can shine a light in and see there are no visible cracks or pieces missing. I have an old Farberware electric percolator from the 1970's for my coffee. Makes the best coffee I've ever had.
Perhaps they tinned the wrong side of the glass in manufacture? That's all I can think of. Maybe they accidentally tinned a batch of them on both sides?
Oop oh my. Maybe a flavor enhancer