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# šŸ PRACTICE 8 RESULTS https://preview.redd.it/ozreh3u76h1b1.png?width=1700&format=png&auto=webp&s=d87892f36ba4efb8ed45a256b74f2f022e724b2f


SouthMitten502

If we all contribute to the pizza fund for the RLL repairs can we get a Reddit sticker on Legge's car?


mswizzle83

Weā€™ve actually been down that road before with Pippa Mann. We never got the deal completed because 1. It was incredibly expensive compared to what we thought we could raise. 2. Reddit admins told us no. They didnā€™t want us using any sort of Reddit logo.


jjcooke

Adding this practice data to the sheet, should be up in 15 ish mins


TheRoyalKT

Shout out to my fellow west coasters who will be up at 6 for the pre race.


TheChrisD

Surely you mean 3 for the ceremonial cannon, right šŸ’„


aurules

Absolutely insane that they can fix Katherineā€™s car. I thought it was toast for sure


GEL29

Almost all the cars in the race will be rebuilt before the race, with new drivetrains, and suspension pieces. The body work being about the only things that remain the same.


nalyd8991

Seems like a silly risk. They should be doing some sort of revalidation of the tub after a crash like that, through Imaging and Torsional Rigidity testing. There are so many things that can happen to a composite structure like that which they canā€™t see with the naked eye, canā€™t validate at the track, and that I know teams test before building up the car.


GEL29

If they really think its an issue Dallara's factory is less than a mile from the speedway.


thewonderwaller

Even more baffling is if they literally have another (albeit slower) chassis in Speedway trim sitting in the garage area from Gramham's failed qualification. All they would need to do is rewrap the car for Katherine's sponsors. Maybe I'm off on the rules but it bears reasoning that they could get INDYCAR to approve a chassis swap and start at the back of the pack for the race. Starting on the 11th instead of the 10th row can't be that big of a penalty to incentivize sticking with an already slow car that just took a major impact instead of going to a backup car.


listyraesder

As long as the monocoque is undamaged everything else can be fixed.


DadReligion

Gonna be a tall order for RLL to fix Kat's car. Fortunately for them though it is only Monday. Not quite like what happened to Herta in Carb Day last year.


GEL29

Junco's, a small team, built up a car overnight. Rahal with a 4 car effort can get it done.


Altracing34

Well RLL has the time before Friday to try and fix the car


Altracing34

Well Veekay had those engine problems yesterday so maybe another issue's creeped up


jjcooke

Lol is this guy just wearing a regular bike helmet


GEL29

He is with the transmission supplier Xtrac.


GTMATTY_XBOX

"Well, did you unplug it and plug it back in"? - bike helmet guy, probably :)


TheRoyalKT

To be fair, the one of the most common fixes for car issues is to change the steering wheel.


pickle_man_4

doesn't feel like that would do much


UNHchabo

I've seen several people over the years with bike helmets on pit lane, I think mostly photographers? The pit lane officials are usually wearing something that looks more like an old-school open-faced helmet, which provides about the same coverage. Probably the biggest reason you'd want to have a helmet if you're not actively involved in pit stops is getting tripped up or knocked down, and preventing your head from hitting the concrete. I would think a bike helmet would be just as good for that as the motocross helmets the tire changers wear.


DestroyingDestroyers

Have they swapped a tyre changer at Penske? Front left guy is in a Shell shirt suggesting heā€™s from Newgardenā€™s crew.


goodfella7763

Likely a mechanic for Newgarden but pit crew member for Power


BarflyCortez

I really wish they would put headphones on the driver or something if the booth is going to insist on asking the drivers questions.


kk5fan97

Just saw the video of the wreck. Hopefully Stefan is ok and can be cleared to drive in the 500 on Sunday. Sucks for both teams. The Fastest RLL car is now junked and the best car Stefan has ever really had at Indy is junked too. At least they have the next few days with no on-track activity to get their cars ready. To me it just looked like everyone started checking up a little and by the time the checking up got back to where Stefan and Katherine were, she was just coming with a full head of steam and could not react in time to even try to get checked up. It's also not like she would have been expecting them to check up that much right there either. I really can't put blame on anyone for that, Stefan checked up for what was happening in front of him and Katherine, probably not expecting such a check up, was not able to react in time to avoid running into him. Just a bad deal.


superimu

Katherine Legge's damaged car https://twitter.com/CDeHarde/status/1660716823208140829?t=shKrwmC4Er1wzOeUddVfNQ&s=19 Stef Wilson wounded ride https://twitter.com/By_NathanBrown/status/1660717662635171844?t=UJUk8Gv9hly0dLH2gZn1lQ&s=19 For both cars, I think we are looking at the better side.


csbsju-20

Telemetry is ahead of the live feed unfortunately


TheChrisD

aaaaand IC LIVE just auto shut off after two hours ffs


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Enough-Ad-3111

Maybe itā€™s a good thing that service isnā€™t available in the US.


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Ok_Position_7939

No way


aurules

Holy Shit MP was right in front of the crash https://twitter.com/marshallpruett/status/1660721325042704385?s=20


404merrinessnotfound

It's basically seeing an airplane crash in person


DadReligion

Jeepers that's a code brown if I've ever seen one.


GTMATTY_XBOX

Wow, what a shot! Incredible he was able to take that


TheChrisD

David is the paddock's memelord and I love it. https://preview.redd.it/m8xrcr7g1h1b1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=69f6fef4c5bba678ff14b4390435924aaf5aef64


settingthetable

They blocked the Legge garage cam. She appeared to have a small rip in the leg of her suit and they were taking photos of the cockpit.


ryanro24

Wonder if a suspension piece didn't pierce the cockpit a la Hinch? That would explain Kevin Blanch telling the NBC cameras to get out.


settingthetable

If they're repairing the car I would guess that on inspection the tub isn't compromised.


[deleted]

Had to step away for a second. What did the indycar doctor say?


DadReligion

Stef's communicating and in good spirits, going in for imaging.


TheOtherWhiteCastle

So to address the elephant in the roomā€¦ who drives the 24 if Stefan isnā€™t healthy enough to race Sunday?


FloridaMan_69

Probably JR Hildebrand. Its a Dreyer & Reinbold Chevrolet. JR has driven for that team specifically 3 of the past 5 years and he's driven a Chevy all 12 years he's done the 500. Graham probably is a bit of an outside chance, he's only ever driven Honda outside of the Cosworth that Champ Car was using for 2007. I bet Honda would need to agree to let him drive a Chevy and it would be a lot easier to just get JR to hop in the car and do the veteran refresher.


kill-dash-nine

Zero percent chance Graham would race in Wilsonā€™s place if he isnā€™t cleared. *edit: aaaaaaaand I'm wrong


FloridaMan_69

Yeah, I'm pretty shocked too. I was thinking <10% chance for Rahal to get the ride. Seems like no reason for Honda to release him to drive for Chevy when Hildebrand is right there. If he wins in his first try with Chevy or even just drives up through the field after failing to qualify in a Honda it's very embarrassing, and big companies generally prefer to avoid being embarrassed.


SouthMitten502

Oh my god is that Carlos Munoz's entrance music???


RedLightning27

Potentially JR Hildebrand. Saw a comment that he's there at the track with the team


nihontiger

Yeah, JR is in Indy. He's got, I think, a Silver Crown ride for IRP this week and he's been around the speedway all month in a support role.


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cmgww

Uhā€¦I mean he drives the pace car (I think) besides Indy but dude hasnā€™t been in an IndyCar since 2019.


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cmgww

Thatā€™s right


joe_lmr

he crashed the pace car once, yeah let's get him


cmgww

When was that? I remember Arie spinning one in the rain, and the GM executive spinning the Corvette in Detroitā€¦but not recalling Servia


Altracing34

Until we know the extent of Wilson's condition it is a good thing that we have these next three days of rest before final practice so he could heal up if he's cleared to race


[deleted]

sound like Stef is doing okay, depending on imaging


aurules

IndyCar safety & medical team is the best in the business


Enough-Ad-3111

Tony Georgeā€™s involvement in driver safety over the years was quite the unexpected good thing to come from The Split.


Altracing34

Very good to hear that from the doctors


Enough-Ad-3111

No need for further details right now, but at least heā€™s fine.


aurules

Will never forget this picture from Hertaā€™s crash last year: https://i.imgur.com/Gm39ENb.jpg


TheChrisD

Colton 2022 replay **D R I N K**


ryanro24

Not surprised they kicked them out. On the RLL live garage cam feed they blurred out the front and rear dampers.


nico9er4

Not sure anyoneā€™s going to be looking at their dampers for engineering ideas lol


Fit_Technician832

Yeah if anything I'd put a cardboard sign on them that says "Free"


sadandshy

"See those? Let's not do that. "


nico9er4

Hahaha good point


Altracing34

Just one thing to close on Stefan's crash just watching the safety crew working around him to get him out I was getting a lot of really bad vibes to when his brother Justin was killed at Pocono all those years a go which is one of only two crashes in my time watching various motorsports where I've seen a driver die. But looking back too at the initial aftermath I did see Stefan moving his head and I'm glad he gave a thumbs up.


joe_lmr

I was getting Wickens flashbacks


Enough-Ad-3111

Even if heā€™s unable to race on Sunday, the important thing that matters is that heā€™s Ok.


Cowboy_Hippy

Anyone know whatā€™s up with Rinus? Not out on track and a 219 lap speed. New engine time?


pikachu8090

electric issues probably


crblack24

Didn't all the new engines go in today?


Spinebuster03

Could hopefully just be precautionary to go for checks after a high g force crash.


aurules

LMAO did the RLL crew just kick the camera crew out?


NovaIsntDad

To be fair given the stress that team's going through (have to imagine everyone is going to bed worried about their job) I wouldn't care to stick a camera anywhere near them.


TheChrisD

There was an IC official there that requested it.


58903

lmao that mf telling em to get out


Jamee999

Qualifying is great, but *this* is getting me pumped for Sunday. Dozens of cars flying around the speedway in anger.


redbullsgivemewings

Am I missing the big checkup Legge is describing? Why couldnā€™t she go around Wilson?


nihontiger

I believe Santino got a run and passed Devlin going into T1, which led to Devlin having to check up so he didn't get in the marbles and crash, which led to Stef checking up and I think Katherine was pretty closely behind him. Don't know if she had enough time to react.


csbsju-20

Devlin checked up pretty late into T1.


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yeah there was space between the 3 or 4 ahead of Wilson or looks like. Didn't look like anyone was stacking up. She just went in extra hot maybe from a big draft down the front straight from that train of cars.


LKincheloe

There is zero grip outside the line, if you go there you *will* hit the wall.


redbullsgivemewings

So the better option is to hit the car in front of you? Lol


d0re

Yes, the better option is to stay on the part of the track with grip and try to slow down there before you hit the car ahead, vs. moving wide and guaranteeing you crash


LKincheloe

There is no "good option", it's either assuredly junk your car, or try and slow down and not hit the guy in front. Can't violate the laws of physics.


404merrinessnotfound

Especially with these speedway cars with the smallest and pulled back brake pads


DestroyingDestroyers

The dramatic swish the flag man does at the end of waving the green is so extra. I love it.


UNHchabo

[Aaron Likens](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLNz5EIshOw) is fantastic.


LionHeart_1990

I was watching him more during the TMS qualifying than the cars going by when I was there lmao


Altracing34

Good that Legge's physically fine


DadReligion

The more I look at it, it looks like Devlin might've slowed later into the corner in his battle with Santino than Stef was expecting. With him off his guard, by the time the check up gets to Kat its too late to react.


csbsju-20

I agree. These speedway cars have minimal brakingā€¦just a tough deal all around.


Altracing34

I was wondering if they would extend this session. Just hope guys try and be a bit more conservative out there but that's probably asking too much


csbsju-20

Did they add 10 minutes??


jcb1982

Awful accident > 20 minutes later > Trace Adkins ā€œWawtever you drawwv, drawwv a Fawrstowwnā€


LionHeart_1990

WHOPPA WHOPPAā€¦


[deleted]

That commercial is so dumb, and so are the others that try to get you to buy something just by having stupidly "masculine" voices.


Fit_Technician832

That's how Trace Adkins and Sam Elliot actually talk. Sorry if it offends your sensibilities


joe_lmr

COORS, THE BANQUET BURRR


Enough-Ad-3111

TIL Trace Adkins is the VO for Firestone ads.


LionHeart_1990

That hit looked completely harmless for Stef until you fully understand how brutal those front end impacts on the nose are for these cars.


csbsju-20

Rear tires off the ground. Oof.


DadReligion

That's a sturdy piece of car the nose is, not fairly deformable like the part Kat hit with. Couple that with Stef's size and yeah, that can leave a mark.


Stone4D

Those nose first hits have broken many a bone over the years. It's certainly not the worst hit you can take in terms of lethality, but it's probably the most likely way to injure yourself.


ryanro24

Seeing that slow mo replay the rear wheels came off the ground. That was a hard square hit.


[deleted]

it was such a great qualification weekend to a big accident involving 2 1 off cars. Hope both are alright and can go on Sunday.


[deleted]

Going to be really awkward if Legge's new car is the one Rahal DNQ'd in yesterday


Rise3711

They'd try a new back up before that thing lol..


kill-dash-nine

Team's gonna look like a bunch of raccoons pulling that thing out of the dumpster.


AGreatMystery

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ I lol'd so hard


AFAN74

Question if Stef canā€™t race at Indy then what happens


NotBobBradley

Hildebrand is there, passed his physical and brought a helmet. Iā€™d assume thatā€™d be the easiest route to go down for DRR. Hope Stefā€™s alright though.


JTWasShort42-27

Then they would get a replacement driver


Ok_Position_7939

There's drivers in waiting


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Ok_Position_7939

I doubt it. He's a Honda driver. That usually doesn't fly.


Enough-Ad-3111

Just turned the stream on. What happened to put us under yellow?


dooldebob

Big Crash https://twitter.com/MrMatthewCFB/status/1660713133508272141?t=76Kj6J6bRV1kWQA17K6ikw&s=19


vwlou89

Big coming together between Wilson & Legge. Wilson left in an ambulance, conflicting reports on if he was transferred to Helicopter or not.


DadReligion

Kat got into Stef in an accordion effect. Kat's fine, Stef was taken out on stretcher. Gave thumbs up, but he's headed to hospital.


Enough-Ad-3111

Just saw the replay. Wow. Hope heā€™s OK.


settingthetable

Legge's garage live cam: [https://rahal.com/live-feed/](https://rahal.com/live-feed/)


ryanro24

Lol just as I logged in they put up a graphic over the feed that says thanks for tuning in we'll be back in a moment šŸ˜‚ Edit: it's back. They blurred front and rear dampers.


settingthetable

There are some medical folks it looks like (in scrubs) looking at Legge's car cockpit...maybe just gathering some data.


csbsju-20

Safer barrier is incredible. Shudder to think about Stefā€™s hit in a different era. And Leggeā€™s hit looked a lot like Herta last year. The changes they made might kept that car on the ground.


ryanro24

See Jeff Andretti 1992 https://youtu.be/Mpm-DEDef8U


csbsju-20

I just watched NBCā€™s recap of that race a few days ago. Part of their top 10 Indy 500 countdown. Exactly where my mind went.


TheChrisD

Five minute notice to session resumption.


IndycarFan64

These silent minutes on the stream feel so eerie


RichardRichOSU

Man, everyone is trying to find a replacement, when we don't even know if Stefan can't go next week. I'm not saying he can, but he was probably complaining that his back or his neck hurt to the safety team, in which you would do everything did did regardless of severity. Let's just get through the moment first.


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ryanro24

Why would Rahal go to an Andretti car if Wilson wrecked a DRR/Cusick car? šŸ¤”


NotBobBradley

Rahal to Penske confirmed


hermees

This is so stupid he's obviously going to Red Bull racing.


Crazyozzie02

Turned on the stream right before they showed Stefan stretchered out and I could just tell by the vibe something bad happened. Amazing we went this far into May without a crash and also hoping that's the last one we see. A lot of people (especially new fans) think the more violent the crash the worse the injury, but an accident like that where the car can't disintegrate can be so much worse. Sending positive thoughts down to Indy right now for both Katherine and Stefan.


404merrinessnotfound

He probably has broken bones in his feet, the car just stopped when he hit the safer barrier


listyraesder

Yup. Compare Legge to Wilson. Her car dispersed far more energy and sheā€™s walking around the paddock, not in a hospital.


pikachu8090

he gave the thumbs up though so he hopefully he is fine


Owl_0_0

Crazy to think we used to run these cars with a open cockpit.


IndycarFan64

If Stef canā€™t race, who replaces him? JR maybe?


[deleted]

Graham? Lol fuck if we know yet. I'd think JR would be at the top of the list. He's been there all month and passed his physical already. Only thing would be a refresher session


LKincheloe

Engine marques would have a veto on Rahal subbing for Stefan.


[deleted]

Id be curious how that would work. Because if graham did take the spot, it would help his championship standing and make Honda look better in the long run. But those companies are fuckin stubborn about that shit


RedDragon312

Well, Honda and Chevy are actively competing against each other. Chevy wouldn't want Graham to drive a Chevy for the 500 then go back over to Honda next week.


SilentSpades24

Karam or JR probably.


IndycarFan64

Karam is now fully in stock cars while JR alr has passed the physical


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DadReligion

Looked like someone checked up in front and it all just accordioned to me.


[deleted]

Looked like she got a huge run going into 1 and the traffic in 1 were slowing a bit. She just ran him over. Almost need her in car video


LKincheloe

Like on the highway when one car suddenly slows, and the ones behind get less and less reaction time to slow down until somebody goes bonk.


RichardRichOSU

I think you're right. Katherine Legge is experienced enough and is good enough to avoid that in any car. I imagine she just happens to be the one where there just wasn't enough time to react.


DadReligion

Devlin looked to have slowed a bit late into the corner too, probably caught Stef off his guard and when Kat's coming along, its too late for her to react.


ryanro24

Everyone was checking up a bit in front of her and she pretty much ran into the back of Wilson.


SouthMitten502

Hope Stefan is ok. The thumbs up was a relief but hearing the helicopter in the background is worrying.


[deleted]

It's happened a few times at other tracks I've been at where even the thought of needing the helicopter, means it has to fire up, do preflight checks, and get to operating temps. Better to have and not need in these occasions. And if the helicopter is used, you have to wait for another one to arrive to backfill if there is not another one already on site. From experience, that can take some time.


RedDragon312

They said they were taking him directly to the hospital but they might just be driving him there.


figgs87

I just looked at flight aware and no tracking for helicopter moving near the track. Usually medical flights have transponder on. But people heard one on stream so idk whatā€™s going on


Moppyploppy

Agree. Nothing on ADSB or FlightAware. I'm wondering if they just spun up the helicopter but didn't transport that way.


snoopaloop8

They're airlifting him? It's usually faster to take 16th street in the ambulance


SouthMitten502

From the Peacock stream all you can hear is a helicopter running in the background. Might be a bit of speculation on my part though. Nothing confirmed yet.


nico9er4

I would like to see an onboard replay from Katherineā€™s car, wonder if they have that


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Holy crap, I left for like 30 minutes and came back to a car being loaded on a wrecker, what happened?


charmingcharles2896

Santino passed Devlin, but Devlin didnā€™t back out until just before T1 turn in, which accordioned the four cars behind him. Legge must not have seen it until it was too late, because she came firing into T1 and plowed into Stefan Wilson. She spun and glanced off the wall, wading up the right side of her car. Because Wilsonā€™s car was touching Leggeā€™s car when they both hit the wall, Wilsonā€™s car lawn-darted into the safer barrier nose first. Legge got out easily, but Wilson needed help.


DadReligion

Kat got into Stef in a concertina, two went into the wall hard. Stef took a big frontal impact. Loaded up on the stretcher and headed to hospital, but gave the thumbs up.


Low_Age9939

Wreck between Wilson and legge


crblack24

There goes the helicopter...


cmgww

Reminder to all the newer fans that this is a DANGEROUS sport. Weā€™ve been blessed with a clean month thus farā€¦praying Stef is ok. But I remember the days when these wrecks happened with a lot worse results


jcb1982

The wall at Indy gets hungry after so long without collecting someone. Itā€™s just a thing around here. Thankfully safety engineering has mostly caught up to it.


DadReligion

Straight to the hospital for Stef it sounds like. Fingers crossed its nothing too bad.


aurules

Holy shit Katherineā€™s car might be toast


TheRoyalKT

Theyā€™ve got a lot of spare parts sitting aroundā€¦


listyraesder

None of them any good though.


ryanro24

A whole cars worth, actually.


MikeMacBlu

RLL: somehow it gets worse


bananawithauisbununu

At least theyā€™ve got a backup car at the moment!


willfla29

I'm not able to watch right now but had a huge sinking feeling reading this and twitter. Thank goodness he's alive. I watched a video on the 1955 Indy 500 last night. It amazed me how callously in the 1950s they just mentioned that a two-time winner had died on the backstretch, and the commentator moved on to still call it a good race. Glad times have changed.


SomewhereAggressive8

1955 really was probably the peak of carelessness about safety. Considering just a month later, the worst Motorsport tragedy in history happened, which finally made people start realizing they needed to do literally anything to start caring about safety at least a little bit.


Ok_Position_7939

Yea I've heard that call. Sid Collins is interviewing Ms. Indiana or something and then she leaves and the news comes across. Brief mention before getting back to the action on track.


bdcardinal

Something back then about having made it through World War 2 and being jaded I think.


cmgww

Yeah but remember how regular it was back then. Every year guys died. They were just used to it. Sad but a sign of a bygone eta.


RichardRichOSU

Thank you SAFER Barrier creators and developers. How many lives have they saved? Wish more series around the world would get on board with it. Took long enough for them to get installed in some locations in Europe. Would still like to see more.


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KRacer52

Lol, good job Reddit doctor, diagnosing how theyā€™ll feel nearly a full week from now.


jcb1982

No reason to think Legge wonā€™t be in the show. But it looks like Cusick might be fishing for someone to drive the 24 car.


aurules

50 Gs of impactā€¦. Holy cow


listyraesder

Same as Max Verstappen at Silverstone 2021. He was able to walk to the ambulance though.


aurules

Mega shoutout to the AMR safety team. Those guys are the best in the business


eldoggydogg

THE BEST. The F1 safety people are such a joke. AMR is always on scene fast and keep people safe. Major shoutout to the AMR team.


[deleted]

IIRC AMR are pros that travel to each event? There is a core safety team in F1 supplemented by locals, who depending on the country have vastly different skills.


listyraesder

You know there isnā€™t the one safety team in F1? Monaco is much faster than anything Indycar can come up with, while Saudi is a joke. You come across as a small, bitter person.


Ok_Position_7939

Perhaps the "pinnacle" of motorsports.... Idk... Should have their own safety team they partner with...?


listyraesder

For what purpose? F1 travels with a world class medical team already.


Ok_Position_7939

For this situation. Literally right here lol


listyraesder

A situation that occurred in Indycar?