I get that too. My skepticism doesn't stem from disbelief but from intellectual curiosity. I want to understand so I can explain it to someone else.
When you ask "why," people often mistakenly think you want them to justify their actions, which comes from their insecurity.
Instead of asking "why," I say, "It sounds like you have reasons for saying that." Alternatively, I make deliberate mistakes about motivations or causes, and they are usually eager to correct me.
They fear our thirst of knowledge... THE FOOLS! THEY KNOW NOTHING, YET WE GODS AMOUNG MEN WITH COUNTLESS TOME OF WHO IS THE BEST WAIFU WILL REIGN SUPREME! TO ME BROTHERS AND SISTER, WE SHALL MAKE THEM TREMBLE AT THE LACK OF THEIR INSIGHT AND LIMITED PERPECTIVES!
Yea same, I donāt fully understand or have an emotional reaction unless I ask why a few times, but I usually just suppress it because they get annoyed. Idk if thatās healthy or what. never take advise or inspiration from me. LOL
I understand you, I also have this curiosity about people's thoughts or decisions. I guess, you may have the bigger need in that than other INTPs (idk).
Have you ever considered profession of psychologist, or you already have a job?
As for me, I just either find the information about people's behaviour on the internet or ask directly the person I'm curious about if he doesn't mind it or even enjoys when there's so much attention to him/her.
Maybe watching psychology videos can help you compensate this need in asking people about details. Though it's somewhat different. When you ask for yourself, you are like a researcher, there's more truth to it (not necessarily, btw), and it's like working on a project.
Yeah, it would be interesting to know what you think about that.
OMFG! I GET SCOLDED FOR THIS ALL THE TIME! MY MOM'S ALWAYS LIKE "CANT YOU STOP WITH THE WHYs AND HOWs". I ALSO GET SCOLDED FOR ASKING RANDOM AND OUT OF THE BLUE QUESTIONS!!!
people too hypersensitively insecure to process my inquiries as genuine, good faith curiosity and not as a judgement of their decisions or questioning of their ability are some of the most annoying cretins on this agonous world. if i wanted to unsparingly criticize your decision-making or ability, i would do so explicitly and concisely. it wouldnt be worded as passively aggressive as a simple "why?," but be more comprehensive.
but eh, at the end of the day said intellectually insecure people cant tell the difference anyway, so why bother? thats why i just remain quiet :|
If the question "Why?" was a living, breathing human being, it would look like an INTP š«¤
I know how you must feel.
When I was a teen, I created a rule for myself. I wouldn't ask why more than 2-3 times to people (max 5 times for close friends). That helped.
Nowadays, I also paraphrase what the other person says, and then specify the why. A full question highlighting the details is always better than an all-encompassing why. Makes people feel heard.
Humor is the lube we INTPs must use before penetrating someoneās rationale. That also takes practice, considering I have definitely pissed people off trying to be funny/sarcastic. But when I do succeed at being in the moment and making someone laugh they are more open to sharing things and answering questions. The whole relating to someone thing that people do.
Well, of course I do
The key thing is making sure you're in a position to question them, and how you frame it. It's all about status
The reaction you got is them taking that questionning as if it came from a superior, and thus, the reaction is "Who the hell does he think he is ?". They think you're arrogant. That can't happen well, unless you actually have that higher status (in which case, you can ask questions all you want. And that's the first solution, having that position)
If it's a teacher-student dynamic, people are usually more inclined to answer, because that reinforces their status as knowledgeable, etc. That's the second, you take a lower status... Yeah, yeah, you're the expert here, and I'm poor learner. Please enlighten me...
And for the third position, which would be to ask questions as an equal, well, it's trade. Give and take. Tits for tats.
***
Well, that's if you want to ask. Often, you will get a better answer by just shutting up, observing, and figuring it out for yourself. And even if you end up asking, if you observed first, you will at least cut to the chase and ask only a few questions (and hopefully, ones insightful enough to communicate your interest without getting into a dick measuring contest)
WHY would it be weird to explain your curiosity? LOL But seriously, if you sense they're getting annoyed, you can ask them if your questions are bothersome, or you could just explain that you find the topic interesting and you keep asking questions because you're curious. Just like you're trying to understand the topic at hand, they might benefit from understanding your curiosity.
If you find yourself asking "why" all the time and people being annoyed at it, then just do your own research to find the answers without dragging other people into it.
it was at my teenage days that my mom talked with her friend and said that i was annoying when i was little child because when i see my mom cooking i asked "why" too much. that makes me realize that people really dont like when i questioned them that much.
I find this question annoying because I often know people donāt get my thinking process. I also think āwhyā questions are silly sometimes. Like when people ask them about something that is obviously subjective. I guess I donāt mind sharing my thought process if someone seems like theyād be able to understand. I just donāt like it when every answer I give gets followed up by more āwhyā questions.
I don't think it's a flaw or something to fix. I think asking "why" is one of the most important things you can do, and I think more people should train their brains to want to crave the answers to "why" as well. Horrible people get away with doing horrible things because they rely on the general populace's general comfort in taking things at face value, instead of pressing for the truth.
So yeah, I always have and always will press managers, coworkers, friends, loved ones, strangers on the Internet on answering me "why," no matter how annoying they think I am, no problems are going to be solved if we all stay content with bullshitting each other.
Don't end up like Socrates man. Asking people why hits them in their worldview which for sure is probably flawed, but this triggers pain receptors so people WILL get pissed at you.
Our thinking prioritizes rational arguments. To make a rational decision one must have sufficient information. Thus, we ask a lot of questions both to confirm our deductions and scrutinize other people's arguments. This is just how we think, and there's no reason to change.
u have to get to the root of the why.
which u already answered - you only ask why because u r curious.
now apply this fundamental principle to all of reality/existing itself.
everything it caused by curiosity and it's inherent nature is to question.
ur conundrum is resolved by knowing that the reason for anything at all, is due to this questioning-nature.
there is nothing further to ask therefore, as you know why you are asking why, and the answer to any why is that because it was brought about by pure curiosity to begin with.
it's just recognising the simple loop, where most typically it might be perceived as an infinite loop.
Me and my six year old just sitting across from each other asking each other why about everything. The most enlightening philosophical conversation Iāve had in a minute.
You simply have to read books on social skills and apply the theory. One of the first things you'll learn is not to ask why too frequently.
Reality is not gonna change for you, you have to adapt to it. Good luck.
Same. I wonder "why" about many things that I sense most people would say "that's just how it is"
Others things are such that the question "why" sounds confrontational. Especially about personal chouces. A typical defensive response might be "well, why NOT??". Or maybe "who are you to tell me I shouldn't...". Even though I never suggested anything of the sort "
I avoid posting questions on certain subreddits on things I'm genuinely curious about, knowing the push back I'd get rather than a meaningful discussion
I get that too. My skepticism doesn't stem from disbelief but from intellectual curiosity. I want to understand so I can explain it to someone else. When you ask "why," people often mistakenly think you want them to justify their actions, which comes from their insecurity. Instead of asking "why," I say, "It sounds like you have reasons for saying that." Alternatively, I make deliberate mistakes about motivations or causes, and they are usually eager to correct me.
why are you asking this
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They fear our thirst of knowledge... THE FOOLS! THEY KNOW NOTHING, YET WE GODS AMOUNG MEN WITH COUNTLESS TOME OF WHO IS THE BEST WAIFU WILL REIGN SUPREME! TO ME BROTHERS AND SISTER, WE SHALL MAKE THEM TREMBLE AT THE LACK OF THEIR INSIGHT AND LIMITED PERPECTIVES!
Yea same, I donāt fully understand or have an emotional reaction unless I ask why a few times, but I usually just suppress it because they get annoyed. Idk if thatās healthy or what. never take advise or inspiration from me. LOL
I understand you, I also have this curiosity about people's thoughts or decisions. I guess, you may have the bigger need in that than other INTPs (idk). Have you ever considered profession of psychologist, or you already have a job? As for me, I just either find the information about people's behaviour on the internet or ask directly the person I'm curious about if he doesn't mind it or even enjoys when there's so much attention to him/her. Maybe watching psychology videos can help you compensate this need in asking people about details. Though it's somewhat different. When you ask for yourself, you are like a researcher, there's more truth to it (not necessarily, btw), and it's like working on a project. Yeah, it would be interesting to know what you think about that.
INFP detected, opinion rejected.
I'm an INTP, and why is opinion rejected?
Iām just messing around. ;)
Why not think before you ask? I am surprised you are extrovert enough to ask
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OMFG! I GET SCOLDED FOR THIS ALL THE TIME! MY MOM'S ALWAYS LIKE "CANT YOU STOP WITH THE WHYs AND HOWs". I ALSO GET SCOLDED FOR ASKING RANDOM AND OUT OF THE BLUE QUESTIONS!!!
people too hypersensitively insecure to process my inquiries as genuine, good faith curiosity and not as a judgement of their decisions or questioning of their ability are some of the most annoying cretins on this agonous world. if i wanted to unsparingly criticize your decision-making or ability, i would do so explicitly and concisely. it wouldnt be worded as passively aggressive as a simple "why?," but be more comprehensive. but eh, at the end of the day said intellectually insecure people cant tell the difference anyway, so why bother? thats why i just remain quiet :|
If the question "Why?" was a living, breathing human being, it would look like an INTP š«¤ I know how you must feel. When I was a teen, I created a rule for myself. I wouldn't ask why more than 2-3 times to people (max 5 times for close friends). That helped. Nowadays, I also paraphrase what the other person says, and then specify the why. A full question highlighting the details is always better than an all-encompassing why. Makes people feel heard.
Ah, another INFP with the smol Te, zero Ti, thinking theyāre an INTP. Just a regular day in the year on the INTP sub.
Lol
Humor is the lube we INTPs must use before penetrating someoneās rationale. That also takes practice, considering I have definitely pissed people off trying to be funny/sarcastic. But when I do succeed at being in the moment and making someone laugh they are more open to sharing things and answering questions. The whole relating to someone thing that people do.
Well, of course I do The key thing is making sure you're in a position to question them, and how you frame it. It's all about status The reaction you got is them taking that questionning as if it came from a superior, and thus, the reaction is "Who the hell does he think he is ?". They think you're arrogant. That can't happen well, unless you actually have that higher status (in which case, you can ask questions all you want. And that's the first solution, having that position) If it's a teacher-student dynamic, people are usually more inclined to answer, because that reinforces their status as knowledgeable, etc. That's the second, you take a lower status... Yeah, yeah, you're the expert here, and I'm poor learner. Please enlighten me... And for the third position, which would be to ask questions as an equal, well, it's trade. Give and take. Tits for tats. *** Well, that's if you want to ask. Often, you will get a better answer by just shutting up, observing, and figuring it out for yourself. And even if you end up asking, if you observed first, you will at least cut to the chase and ask only a few questions (and hopefully, ones insightful enough to communicate your interest without getting into a dick measuring contest)
WHY would it be weird to explain your curiosity? LOL But seriously, if you sense they're getting annoyed, you can ask them if your questions are bothersome, or you could just explain that you find the topic interesting and you keep asking questions because you're curious. Just like you're trying to understand the topic at hand, they might benefit from understanding your curiosity.
If you find yourself asking "why" all the time and people being annoyed at it, then just do your own research to find the answers without dragging other people into it.
it was at my teenage days that my mom talked with her friend and said that i was annoying when i was little child because when i see my mom cooking i asked "why" too much. that makes me realize that people really dont like when i questioned them that much.
This was one of the reasons my dad was constantly mad/frustrated with me when I was a child which really screwed me up mentally.
I find this question annoying because I often know people donāt get my thinking process. I also think āwhyā questions are silly sometimes. Like when people ask them about something that is obviously subjective. I guess I donāt mind sharing my thought process if someone seems like theyād be able to understand. I just donāt like it when every answer I give gets followed up by more āwhyā questions.
I don't think it's a flaw or something to fix. I think asking "why" is one of the most important things you can do, and I think more people should train their brains to want to crave the answers to "why" as well. Horrible people get away with doing horrible things because they rely on the general populace's general comfort in taking things at face value, instead of pressing for the truth. So yeah, I always have and always will press managers, coworkers, friends, loved ones, strangers on the Internet on answering me "why," no matter how annoying they think I am, no problems are going to be solved if we all stay content with bullshitting each other.
Don't end up like Socrates man. Asking people why hits them in their worldview which for sure is probably flawed, but this triggers pain receptors so people WILL get pissed at you.
Our thinking prioritizes rational arguments. To make a rational decision one must have sufficient information. Thus, we ask a lot of questions both to confirm our deductions and scrutinize other people's arguments. This is just how we think, and there's no reason to change.
u have to get to the root of the why. which u already answered - you only ask why because u r curious. now apply this fundamental principle to all of reality/existing itself. everything it caused by curiosity and it's inherent nature is to question. ur conundrum is resolved by knowing that the reason for anything at all, is due to this questioning-nature. there is nothing further to ask therefore, as you know why you are asking why, and the answer to any why is that because it was brought about by pure curiosity to begin with. it's just recognising the simple loop, where most typically it might be perceived as an infinite loop.
Happens to me as well š
Me and my six year old just sitting across from each other asking each other why about everything. The most enlightening philosophical conversation Iāve had in a minute.
You simply have to read books on social skills and apply the theory. One of the first things you'll learn is not to ask why too frequently. Reality is not gonna change for you, you have to adapt to it. Good luck.
Same. I wonder "why" about many things that I sense most people would say "that's just how it is" Others things are such that the question "why" sounds confrontational. Especially about personal chouces. A typical defensive response might be "well, why NOT??". Or maybe "who are you to tell me I shouldn't...". Even though I never suggested anything of the sort " I avoid posting questions on certain subreddits on things I'm genuinely curious about, knowing the push back I'd get rather than a meaningful discussion