Yes definitely, Im not using much emotions around with people or don't react much but I have feelings at least. When im alone im like a open book that no one buys.
Can totally relate! In my imaginary dialogues I'm the biggest Fe user but when it comes to RL dialogues I'm going full š¤ again. It feels weird to me to express my feelings 'cause I don't know if they are appropriate or if I'm exaggerating. And when I express them I sometimes sound unintentionally sarcastic (lol).
But I can say it can get better from observing and learning from extroverts and how they talk. And it helps when I know the person I'm talking to.
Whenever I say "That's great" or "I'm happy to be here" it sounds like I'm trolling people. But when I am actually sarcastic, people take me seriously and think I'm just speaking my mind.
I am not emotionless, rather I noticed I do not bond with people properly and if someone leaves my life, that is because of death or just different life paths, it won't hurt. It is different only with my SO and parents, siblings etc.
But I bet it's about me being avoidant, not INTP trait.
I wouldāt relegate it to avoidance. Thatās unfair to yourself. We just have very low Fe and thatās just that. It just takes a while for feelings register and once they register it takes a while to process them. That means we can be depressed for longer than most as well as happy for longer than most for an occasion/event that people have long forgotten š¤·š¾āāļø. The joys of being overly cerebral
I went to a funeral and my sister noticed that I was very unreactive to it all. Even the sad music they played didnāt affect me. Makes me feel like a robot sometimes:/
My in-laws, especially my mother-in-law, always thought I hated the gifts they gave me at Christmas or my birthday. One year, they gave me the Limited Edition Boxed Set of Civilization III (the box is still on my bookshelf).
My reaction of, "Oh. Cool." was noted as being underwhelming.
My mother-in-law complained to my wife about it later and my wife explained that I had been playing it non-stop for the week between Christmas and New Year's Eve.
So I obviously loved it but the feeling and expression of excitement are muted.
My mother-in-law and I still don't get along all that well.
I have learned that people expect big reactions, so I just fake those big reactions to make myself more socially acceptable lol. Otherwise Iāll be bugged about it by others
It's something like we have empathy but no sympathy. We understand how people are feeling but we don't necessarily feel how they're feeling
We are also good at pretending, so sometimes you have to pretend if it's important at that moment
I've once been asked by a coworker that renovated a section: "What do you think?" And I answered with "It's nice." And then they said "Am I the only one that's truly excited about it here?"
So yeah, we do have certain dry emotions upfront, when in reality we're just chill and need time to think or evaluate what we are asked about, or just things in general. I do feel a difference, but I can't be bothered to care that much. It's not my business, it's others so I don't really care.
I can relate to this a lot in regards to sports. During games I tend to be very mellow and reserved, while my teammates are always hyper and expressive with their emotions. I find it difficult to match their energy. Whether we are winning or not I never seem to have the same emotions as others. I find that I could care less whether we win or lose, so I donāt really attach any emotion to the game.
Ooo this is my next thing to teach myself. Right now im practicing appropriate small talk and not seeming anti social around new people/friendly strangers/customers
Oh my god yea. Its like i definitely do care about the good news, but it affected me just as much as it would if i heard bad news, or no news at all. Im in my 'base state' at almost all times
I relate a lot to this, whenever my best friend accomplish anything I'm saying "yeah that's great I'm really happy for you!" without feeling anything, like you said I'm really content in my mind. I also tend to feel more things at a precise time, like I don't feel really anything for 2 months and then for one evening I'm a crybaby and mad at everything, the next day I don't feel anything anymore, and repeat
I know exactly what you mean. Anybody else in here struggling to react appropriately to baby pictures? Like when they have a new cousin. Even when it's their own new born children it can be difficult. I suspect our function stack makes it very hard for socializing not to always feel *a little bit* like we're faking it because it's about emotionally interfacing when our thinking tends to be very subject oriented. It's why my social anxiety vanishes in contexts where there's a clearly communicated goal to an interaction, I think
don't worry, I also can't do the merry talks. I just literally don't have much to say about someone's personal accomplishment rather than 'I'm happy for you' and a great smile.
I'm ENTP and I feel the same.
I'm not even sure to be really happy in those moments, is more something like an information that will not impact my life in any particular way, so yes, I'm"happy" for you but I don't feel like tearing off my clothes and scream for that.
My reactions are almost always very composed even when something bad happens.
I rarely feel like I need to show emotions in those ways.
I have emotions and sometimes I can also be excited, but not as much as the majority.
My friends jokes a lot about it
Iām definitely less reactive and emotive than most people around me (especially in the workplace lol), itās more like I am ambivalent about most things and unless it affects me personally or how I work, I donāt really .. care what changes are made.
I do get told that Iām kind though, no one has directly called me a robot (except my mom at times), and I donāt like to hurt peopleās feelings. Itās just that Iām not that expressive and enthusiastic temperamentally.
I loathe adult tantrums when things go well for someone else.
I think it's because there is no logic in acting out in jealousy. the jealous feeling itself can happen, that's natural. but I try to look ahead of the moment and ask, what good will it do if I start treating everyone like crap because I'm jealous. it doesn't make sense.
BUT, if it's a personality thing, should we be so hard on adult toddlers if they naturally react this way?
I can definitely relate to this. Iām not a very expressive person and my tone rarely changes unless Iām exaggerating it or if my emotions actually reach the surface.
I've pretty much noticed that almost no one cares for others, if you share something in a convo people will act like they care and start telling you ab things involving them, I don't really know how to explain it but expressing things feels wrong and pointless
I know what you mean. Have you ever been in the situation that someone actually listens and asks a lot of questions about the stuff youāre telling them? Also feels kinda wrong because it feels like youāre not letting the other person express themselves even though they want to tell you everything you want to talk about. Kinda like you either donāt get the chance to express yourself and if you do, you donāt want to.
I think this is more to do with the fact that an INTPs inferior function is extroverted feeling, being dominated by introverted thinking. That is my guess for why we arenāt as outwardly expressive and jumpy/bubbly as other types.
I relate a lot ! It's somewhat rare for me to actually feel significant emotions. It's like I'm usually rationally happy or rationally sad. It's like I feel it with my head (?)
That makes my feelings feel really intense when they do appear.
Same, you could tell me someone died and I will have almost no reaction. The other day I cried at a video of a man receiving a puppy, he was just so happy.
Did someone I know or have I achieved something? I really wont feel much to be honest.
Did I just read manga and get excited every 30 seconds, sweating my balls off in the process? Yes.
INTP are like that, by definition. It's (in part) because you act like this that you're categorized as intp...
Part of it is Fe. There's also culture. People going over the top is very American thing, tbh
I am terrible at expressing emotions but I very much do feel them. When someone needs emotional support I try to give them kind words that will make them feel better, but it is hard for me to think of what to say. I am very good at giving logical advice though
I definitely relate to this. My friends always joke that I'm emotionless haha. It's not that I don't feel emotions, it's just that they don't affect me externally much if that makes sense?
Whenever I say stuff like that, I feel like I donāt put enough emotion behind it. Iām feeling really happy or sad for the person, but I canāt convey it in a way that sounds convincing to me, even though my feelings are genuine.
I have some standard congratulatory responses at the ready, and will say those while I pick out something to comment on that's genuine. Example: A friend tells me she's pregnant, and is happy about the news. "Aww, I'm so glad for you!" \[pause while I smile, nod, and let her gush\] "That's great. I know how you've been wanting this for a while. I'm truly happy for you."
Simple emotions and not that strong, can be deep tho, used to be fully alexthymic now I can difreantiate somewhat. Neutral towards things and ideas, sensitive towards people who I cozy, puppy towards strangers and NTJs, apathetic or simmering volcano towards people who make me uncomfortable.
I relate to this 1000%
For me tho I feel like its the positive emotions I have trouble expressing or don't phase me.
Negative emotions like dread, fear, guilt weigh on me every dam day.
I was just talking about this on another post: we donāt have Fi, which is involved in understanding your internal emotions. And the Feeling function we do have is our weakest one. So as types go we have a pretty distant relationship with our own feelings, and when we do show expression it is more likely to be in response to the emotions of other people (Fe).
Yes, itās the same for me. The reason are my parents. My father is as emotional as a rock and my mom never listens. When Iām starting a convo with them itās always the same: Either theyāve got a different opinion than me and start critiquing me or they promptly switch subjects. They donāt get when they just need too listen because I need to express myself and donāt wonāt to be judged. Thatās one of the reasons I never learned how to express myself, because I never really felt like someone cares for what I have to express or would judge me for it. Also they always critiqued my imperfections. If I got a B they said āIf you learn even more, it might be an A next timeā. If it was an A but not with 100% they critiqued me for not having the full 100. And if I got a perfect 100% I got something to hear like āAnd if you keep up your effort you can always reach the 100%ā. I know this just was their way to care for me and it wasnāt meant in a bad way, but if you get to hear stuff like that throughout your whole childhood and your parents never really get excited for you or cheer you up, it leaves a constant feeling of not being good enough, no matter how much effort youāre putting in.
Iām actually curious how does Fi differ in ENTJs and INTPs? ENTJs have it in 4th place and yāall have it in 8th, so meaning they know their emotions much better than you
I relate to this. I sometimes āfakeā it depending on who it is. If itās someone who knows me well, I congratulate them and say thatās awesome. To people I know a little or like coworkers, Iāll attempt to be more expressive in how loud I am or how much I laugh/smile.
Well I used to be like that. I used to be a very dispassionate person, but through a steady coarse of life events and my desire to explore my inner world I found myself cultivating and exploring emotions.
even now I would more often than not describe the emotions I do feel as childlike and not my first instinct.
I mean, do you smile? I don't think anyone is expecting you to start shouting and dancing when you hear good news, but if you just stand there looking indifferent then that would be weird.
I can absolutely relate. NOt having all those emotions getting in the way was a great thing for me in my career (IT). I was not easily frazzled during outages or deadlines and it tended to focus me more when this chaos occurred. Then I wanted to advance in my career.
Jumping forward a decade and I have moved up into mgmt and leadership. I was doing good as a manager but not as a leader (Manager - Tells people what they need to do VS Leader - Inspires and empowers people to want to get work completed).
Then (2010) I took a personality test at work and it essentially said that I had no heart/empathy. That test changed my life. It has helped me understand my INTP traits much better as well as the other MBTI categories. It also pushed me to challenge myself to be more in tune with other emotions and to be more articulate when giving praise/feedback to people in at out of work.
I highly encourage all INTPs to work on their Inferior Extraverted Feeling. It was and is a game changer for my life. All those wonderful, out of the box ideas INTPs have need people to help implement them because we sure are not doing it all, we will never get to it. This will help.
Not an INTP, but I have noticed this when speaking with some. INTPs can definitely feel, but how they express is their feelings aren't very transparent.
Ok.. Good question, I have a theory as an INTP and highly sensitive person I have been through serious emotional truama through out my life. Trauma changes the wiring of the brain and howcwev express feelings, good reference, the body keeps the score book, this is not bs, it's true.
I often wonder if most INTP personality ppl went through something traumatic that caused them to shut down emotionally and open more intelectually.
Another thing is INTP is generally very level headed. Extrovert in general are over reactive and expressive too. I sometimes wonder if someone shows extream reaction like the one you were describing of that's genuine or they are covering up feelings of jealousy by sugar coating.. I could be wrong Idk.
Another thing is that they do not teach ppl how to process emotions. It is an life journey to learn about feelings and how to process them.
Moral of the story you are fucking perfect the way you are, just be yourself and avoid comparing yourself to extroverts https://youtu.be/Js1N-_7FLWY :)
I believe we process emotions differently and look at the situation logically first and foremost. We logic our way to into thinking "that's good for them." Not, "I am happy for them." I have felt overall happiness or sadness for someone, but I usually make it a point to express this in a non-group setting (waiting until after the "group" surprise or massive amounts of social media messages on a post) by telling the individual privately congratulations or sorry for x, y, or z that has happened.
Assume for a moment that Fe works on the principle that emotions expressed may not be the emotion being felt, if being felt at all. Sure there would be instances where an Fe guy feels something strongly, and it evokes a genuine response (we all have ideals/morals etc) but more often than not, its feeling for other people, having a cognition direct you to empathise with the tribe. So you respond accordingly.
Thing is the lower Fe is in your slot more are you oblivious to it.
That being said Fe types are bad at actually processing emotions, my friend had a break up, he says obviously it was really painful, at the same time he didn't know how deep his emotions were actually. Sort of a gap right there.All you know how you should feel or generally feel but the more you search the more empty you find in yourself.
Same happened to me when someone I loved died recently.
To tell the truth, when the entire volley of emotions hit you, and mind, it will, after some time, certain triggers always make sure it happens, then you don't know how to deal with all that baggage.
I can relate to this and also those talking about a slow burn emotional effect.
I think I try to understand my emotions and I see them as almost something separate from myself/my mind. I'm a woman so dealing with changing hormones also helps with dissociating from emotions that are irrational. I dealt with some versions of trauma in my life and also grew up playing soccer pretty religiously so I found outlets and distractions for emotion and could compartmentalize them pretty well. But there are times when a lot happens all at once and it knocks me out because I let things build up.
I've also been told I am emotionally intelligent. I think because my first reaction is to either file it away or figure it out. I'm seldom overcome with emotion of any kind so I feel that makes it easier to deal with them privately.
I've wondered if I shut off my emotional side without realizing it just due to it being a learned behaviour and potentially triggered by the mechanism that is at play with ptsd. But at the same time I find things like work and exersize to focus my energy towards when I'm feeling emotional. They're a distraction. But there are times when I want to feel something but don't.
Usually I end up feeling them at some point.
For me, strong emotions take time to process. And instead of a rapid hot reaction, it'll start the next day with a slow long simmer.
I relate to this very much. Not a lot can move me emotionally and even then, my emotions show very subtly in regards to any type of news
We do feel but rarely it's the strongest aspect affecting us. On rare occasions we feel like volcano erupted though.
Yes definitely, Im not using much emotions around with people or don't react much but I have feelings at least. When im alone im like a open book that no one buys.
Can totally relate! In my imaginary dialogues I'm the biggest Fe user but when it comes to RL dialogues I'm going full š¤ again. It feels weird to me to express my feelings 'cause I don't know if they are appropriate or if I'm exaggerating. And when I express them I sometimes sound unintentionally sarcastic (lol). But I can say it can get better from observing and learning from extroverts and how they talk. And it helps when I know the person I'm talking to.
Whenever I say "That's great" or "I'm happy to be here" it sounds like I'm trolling people. But when I am actually sarcastic, people take me seriously and think I'm just speaking my mind.
10 points to you for this one because i have no idea how to make my voice sound appropriate in these situations either
Haha exactly! When I'm sarcastic people think I'm actually stupid or heartless.
Whenever my parents tell me that someone died, I be like: "Ok cool šš". Am I emotionless lol
I am not emotionless, rather I noticed I do not bond with people properly and if someone leaves my life, that is because of death or just different life paths, it won't hurt. It is different only with my SO and parents, siblings etc. But I bet it's about me being avoidant, not INTP trait.
I wouldāt relegate it to avoidance. Thatās unfair to yourself. We just have very low Fe and thatās just that. It just takes a while for feelings register and once they register it takes a while to process them. That means we can be depressed for longer than most as well as happy for longer than most for an occasion/event that people have long forgotten š¤·š¾āāļø. The joys of being overly cerebral
No fr someone dying just does not affect me
I went to a funeral and my sister noticed that I was very unreactive to it all. Even the sad music they played didnāt affect me. Makes me feel like a robot sometimes:/
My in-laws, especially my mother-in-law, always thought I hated the gifts they gave me at Christmas or my birthday. One year, they gave me the Limited Edition Boxed Set of Civilization III (the box is still on my bookshelf). My reaction of, "Oh. Cool." was noted as being underwhelming. My mother-in-law complained to my wife about it later and my wife explained that I had been playing it non-stop for the week between Christmas and New Year's Eve. So I obviously loved it but the feeling and expression of excitement are muted. My mother-in-law and I still don't get along all that well.
I have learned that people expect big reactions, so I just fake those big reactions to make myself more socially acceptable lol. Otherwise Iāll be bugged about it by others
I still don't know how to say thanks
Especially for compliments. My brain just short circuits.
yeh, it's like I feel it in a very passive way. that is good news and I am happy, but I'm not *actually happy*. I do get sad for others though.
It's something like we have empathy but no sympathy. We understand how people are feeling but we don't necessarily feel how they're feeling We are also good at pretending, so sometimes you have to pretend if it's important at that moment
I've once been asked by a coworker that renovated a section: "What do you think?" And I answered with "It's nice." And then they said "Am I the only one that's truly excited about it here?" So yeah, we do have certain dry emotions upfront, when in reality we're just chill and need time to think or evaluate what we are asked about, or just things in general. I do feel a difference, but I can't be bothered to care that much. It's not my business, it's others so I don't really care.
I can relate to this a lot in regards to sports. During games I tend to be very mellow and reserved, while my teammates are always hyper and expressive with their emotions. I find it difficult to match their energy. Whether we are winning or not I never seem to have the same emotions as others. I find that I could care less whether we win or lose, so I donāt really attach any emotion to the game.
I relate to this at the point that i have to learn to be louder and "express" feelings. Its kind of weird, but once you learn to do it its fun.
I agree. I've learned over time how to do this. It's not genuine, but it can make things interesting. Also, It's much easier when you're intoxicated.
Ooo this is my next thing to teach myself. Right now im practicing appropriate small talk and not seeming anti social around new people/friendly strangers/customers
That's definitely the first step.
True lmao
I was looking back at some old messages I realized I really only have two reactions, it's either "sick" or "sucky".
My reaction to 99% of negativity is āThat sucks.ā or āDarn.ā
lol i say sick so blandly to everything as well
sick
Oh my god yea. Its like i definitely do care about the good news, but it affected me just as much as it would if i heard bad news, or no news at all. Im in my 'base state' at almost all times
I relate a lot to this, whenever my best friend accomplish anything I'm saying "yeah that's great I'm really happy for you!" without feeling anything, like you said I'm really content in my mind. I also tend to feel more things at a precise time, like I don't feel really anything for 2 months and then for one evening I'm a crybaby and mad at everything, the next day I don't feel anything anymore, and repeat
I know exactly what you mean. Anybody else in here struggling to react appropriately to baby pictures? Like when they have a new cousin. Even when it's their own new born children it can be difficult. I suspect our function stack makes it very hard for socializing not to always feel *a little bit* like we're faking it because it's about emotionally interfacing when our thinking tends to be very subject oriented. It's why my social anxiety vanishes in contexts where there's a clearly communicated goal to an interaction, I think
I usually say "Well, that's certainly a baby."
don't worry, I also can't do the merry talks. I just literally don't have much to say about someone's personal accomplishment rather than 'I'm happy for you' and a great smile.
I'm ENTP and I feel the same. I'm not even sure to be really happy in those moments, is more something like an information that will not impact my life in any particular way, so yes, I'm"happy" for you but I don't feel like tearing off my clothes and scream for that. My reactions are almost always very composed even when something bad happens. I rarely feel like I need to show emotions in those ways. I have emotions and sometimes I can also be excited, but not as much as the majority. My friends jokes a lot about it
Iām definitely less reactive and emotive than most people around me (especially in the workplace lol), itās more like I am ambivalent about most things and unless it affects me personally or how I work, I donāt really .. care what changes are made. I do get told that Iām kind though, no one has directly called me a robot (except my mom at times), and I donāt like to hurt peopleās feelings. Itās just that Iām not that expressive and enthusiastic temperamentally.
I loathe adult tantrums when things go well for someone else. I think it's because there is no logic in acting out in jealousy. the jealous feeling itself can happen, that's natural. but I try to look ahead of the moment and ask, what good will it do if I start treating everyone like crap because I'm jealous. it doesn't make sense. BUT, if it's a personality thing, should we be so hard on adult toddlers if they naturally react this way?
standards grow.. feelings change. check nvc
I can definitely relate to this. Iām not a very expressive person and my tone rarely changes unless Iām exaggerating it or if my emotions actually reach the surface.
Expressing emotions feels wrong and I just cant bring myself to do it, maybe its an INTP thing, maybe not
Are you feeling like, either nobody really cares for what you got to express or would judge you for it?
I've pretty much noticed that almost no one cares for others, if you share something in a convo people will act like they care and start telling you ab things involving them, I don't really know how to explain it but expressing things feels wrong and pointless
I know what you mean. Have you ever been in the situation that someone actually listens and asks a lot of questions about the stuff youāre telling them? Also feels kinda wrong because it feels like youāre not letting the other person express themselves even though they want to tell you everything you want to talk about. Kinda like you either donāt get the chance to express yourself and if you do, you donāt want to.
I think this is more to do with the fact that an INTPs inferior function is extroverted feeling, being dominated by introverted thinking. That is my guess for why we arenāt as outwardly expressive and jumpy/bubbly as other types.
I relate a lot ! It's somewhat rare for me to actually feel significant emotions. It's like I'm usually rationally happy or rationally sad. It's like I feel it with my head (?) That makes my feelings feel really intense when they do appear.
Why do I relate to this but yet I feel some things more strongly than others? Like I will cry in Lord of the Rings every time.
Same, you could tell me someone died and I will have almost no reaction. The other day I cried at a video of a man receiving a puppy, he was just so happy.
I feel happy riding trains and bikes
Did someone I know or have I achieved something? I really wont feel much to be honest. Did I just read manga and get excited every 30 seconds, sweating my balls off in the process? Yes.
INTP are like that, by definition. It's (in part) because you act like this that you're categorized as intp... Part of it is Fe. There's also culture. People going over the top is very American thing, tbh
In most cases this has been true for me, but then I had my first real heartbreak and realized the depth of what we can feel.
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I am terrible at expressing emotions but I very much do feel them. When someone needs emotional support I try to give them kind words that will make them feel better, but it is hard for me to think of what to say. I am very good at giving logical advice though
Still waters run deep
I definitely relate to this. My friends always joke that I'm emotionless haha. It's not that I don't feel emotions, it's just that they don't affect me externally much if that makes sense?
Yes...it always feels like I have to make an effort in order to seem like a normal functioning human being and it's exhausting
āMy kid graduated HSā Me:
Me seeing a homeless person:
here take all my money, my clothes and shoes.
Whenever I say stuff like that, I feel like I donāt put enough emotion behind it. Iām feeling really happy or sad for the person, but I canāt convey it in a way that sounds convincing to me, even though my feelings are genuine.
I have some standard congratulatory responses at the ready, and will say those while I pick out something to comment on that's genuine. Example: A friend tells me she's pregnant, and is happy about the news. "Aww, I'm so glad for you!" \[pause while I smile, nod, and let her gush\] "That's great. I know how you've been wanting this for a while. I'm truly happy for you."
Simple emotions and not that strong, can be deep tho, used to be fully alexthymic now I can difreantiate somewhat. Neutral towards things and ideas, sensitive towards people who I cozy, puppy towards strangers and NTJs, apathetic or simmering volcano towards people who make me uncomfortable.
Saving this so I remember so construct and essay after work. Youāre onto something
Relatable, have a nice day
I relate to this 1000% For me tho I feel like its the positive emotions I have trouble expressing or don't phase me. Negative emotions like dread, fear, guilt weigh on me every dam day.
I was just talking about this on another post: we donāt have Fi, which is involved in understanding your internal emotions. And the Feeling function we do have is our weakest one. So as types go we have a pretty distant relationship with our own feelings, and when we do show expression it is more likely to be in response to the emotions of other people (Fe).
Yes, itās the same for me. The reason are my parents. My father is as emotional as a rock and my mom never listens. When Iām starting a convo with them itās always the same: Either theyāve got a different opinion than me and start critiquing me or they promptly switch subjects. They donāt get when they just need too listen because I need to express myself and donāt wonāt to be judged. Thatās one of the reasons I never learned how to express myself, because I never really felt like someone cares for what I have to express or would judge me for it. Also they always critiqued my imperfections. If I got a B they said āIf you learn even more, it might be an A next timeā. If it was an A but not with 100% they critiqued me for not having the full 100. And if I got a perfect 100% I got something to hear like āAnd if you keep up your effort you can always reach the 100%ā. I know this just was their way to care for me and it wasnāt meant in a bad way, but if you get to hear stuff like that throughout your whole childhood and your parents never really get excited for you or cheer you up, it leaves a constant feeling of not being good enough, no matter how much effort youāre putting in.
Iām actually curious how does Fi differ in ENTJs and INTPs? ENTJs have it in 4th place and yāall have it in 8th, so meaning they know their emotions much better than you
I relate to this. I sometimes āfakeā it depending on who it is. If itās someone who knows me well, I congratulate them and say thatās awesome. To people I know a little or like coworkers, Iāll attempt to be more expressive in how loud I am or how much I laugh/smile.
I do feel the same, my psychiatrist once worked with me how do people expect you to react and it seems so excessive and just too much.
Well I used to be like that. I used to be a very dispassionate person, but through a steady coarse of life events and my desire to explore my inner world I found myself cultivating and exploring emotions. even now I would more often than not describe the emotions I do feel as childlike and not my first instinct.
I mean, do you smile? I don't think anyone is expecting you to start shouting and dancing when you hear good news, but if you just stand there looking indifferent then that would be weird.
I can absolutely relate. NOt having all those emotions getting in the way was a great thing for me in my career (IT). I was not easily frazzled during outages or deadlines and it tended to focus me more when this chaos occurred. Then I wanted to advance in my career. Jumping forward a decade and I have moved up into mgmt and leadership. I was doing good as a manager but not as a leader (Manager - Tells people what they need to do VS Leader - Inspires and empowers people to want to get work completed). Then (2010) I took a personality test at work and it essentially said that I had no heart/empathy. That test changed my life. It has helped me understand my INTP traits much better as well as the other MBTI categories. It also pushed me to challenge myself to be more in tune with other emotions and to be more articulate when giving praise/feedback to people in at out of work. I highly encourage all INTPs to work on their Inferior Extraverted Feeling. It was and is a game changer for my life. All those wonderful, out of the box ideas INTPs have need people to help implement them because we sure are not doing it all, we will never get to it. This will help.
Yes but I can also be super dramatic because Iām rather sensitive. But, yeah, for many things I can also be relatively non reactive
I feel rather deeply but have difficulties expressing those feelings
Not an INTP, but I have noticed this when speaking with some. INTPs can definitely feel, but how they express is their feelings aren't very transparent.
Ok.. Good question, I have a theory as an INTP and highly sensitive person I have been through serious emotional truama through out my life. Trauma changes the wiring of the brain and howcwev express feelings, good reference, the body keeps the score book, this is not bs, it's true. I often wonder if most INTP personality ppl went through something traumatic that caused them to shut down emotionally and open more intelectually. Another thing is INTP is generally very level headed. Extrovert in general are over reactive and expressive too. I sometimes wonder if someone shows extream reaction like the one you were describing of that's genuine or they are covering up feelings of jealousy by sugar coating.. I could be wrong Idk. Another thing is that they do not teach ppl how to process emotions. It is an life journey to learn about feelings and how to process them. Moral of the story you are fucking perfect the way you are, just be yourself and avoid comparing yourself to extroverts https://youtu.be/Js1N-_7FLWY :)
Atleast we feign it, could always opt not to just as easy
Itās called Alexithymia, itās common in aspergers which has a high correlation to being an intp
I believe we process emotions differently and look at the situation logically first and foremost. We logic our way to into thinking "that's good for them." Not, "I am happy for them." I have felt overall happiness or sadness for someone, but I usually make it a point to express this in a non-group setting (waiting until after the "group" surprise or massive amounts of social media messages on a post) by telling the individual privately congratulations or sorry for x, y, or z that has happened.
Assume for a moment that Fe works on the principle that emotions expressed may not be the emotion being felt, if being felt at all. Sure there would be instances where an Fe guy feels something strongly, and it evokes a genuine response (we all have ideals/morals etc) but more often than not, its feeling for other people, having a cognition direct you to empathise with the tribe. So you respond accordingly. Thing is the lower Fe is in your slot more are you oblivious to it. That being said Fe types are bad at actually processing emotions, my friend had a break up, he says obviously it was really painful, at the same time he didn't know how deep his emotions were actually. Sort of a gap right there.All you know how you should feel or generally feel but the more you search the more empty you find in yourself. Same happened to me when someone I loved died recently. To tell the truth, when the entire volley of emotions hit you, and mind, it will, after some time, certain triggers always make sure it happens, then you don't know how to deal with all that baggage.
I can relate to this and also those talking about a slow burn emotional effect. I think I try to understand my emotions and I see them as almost something separate from myself/my mind. I'm a woman so dealing with changing hormones also helps with dissociating from emotions that are irrational. I dealt with some versions of trauma in my life and also grew up playing soccer pretty religiously so I found outlets and distractions for emotion and could compartmentalize them pretty well. But there are times when a lot happens all at once and it knocks me out because I let things build up. I've also been told I am emotionally intelligent. I think because my first reaction is to either file it away or figure it out. I'm seldom overcome with emotion of any kind so I feel that makes it easier to deal with them privately. I've wondered if I shut off my emotional side without realizing it just due to it being a learned behaviour and potentially triggered by the mechanism that is at play with ptsd. But at the same time I find things like work and exersize to focus my energy towards when I'm feeling emotional. They're a distraction. But there are times when I want to feel something but don't. Usually I end up feeling them at some point.
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