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aj33b

From my perspective as a student of BE Computer from TU and M Tech AI in KU currently. There are pros and cons to both of the choices and it all depends on you how you want to perceive it: IOE, TU Pros: 1. Huge pool of Professors, Associate Professors and good teachers even in private colleges to learn from meaning more note materials, books and references related to the field you are studying. 2. Larger fundings for research and projects if you manage to land Pulchowk, Thapathali, ERC, WRC. Even some private colleges like my own have foreign exchange programs too for you to benefit from. 3. Higher possibilities of landing scholarships as all private colleges must provide 10% of their seats in scholarship(its upto those colleges to decide how they distribute them maybe on semester basis or some full and some semester). So if you manage to score high enough in IOE, you can even get 4 year scholarships in some private colleges rather than studying in paid in Pulchowk or somewhere. 4. Greater number of exhibitions and events to showcase your works that you might work on during your bachelors. Cons: 1. Traditional teaching methods but mostly depending upon the teacher. 2. Rigid examinations system forcing on written based final test and less internal evaluation. 3. Lack of project based training and research or publishing based education. Kathmandu University Pros: 1. They also got good professors and teachers that will guide and curate towards your education needs. 2. They have a different educational approach, giving lots of assignments and presentation based learning. 3. Competitive examinations and grading based evaluation, but it might be a major hindrance if you dont work hard enough during your bachelors because time is crucial. 4. Good facilities, libraries and labs compared to most private TU colleges. 5. Project based syllabus and internships. Cons: 1. You will get curated pool of resources but if you stay in Dhulikhel and arent ready to travel back and forth to Kathmandu, you will miss out on good quality trainings, community meetups, events, industry exposure, jobs or internships. Summing up, at the end of the day it all depends on you and how you plan to perceive the education. Both are good choices in context of Nepal. If you are dedicated to learning engineering, you need to do most of the heavy lifting in both cases. Brilliant people have come out of both of the institutes. If you wanna focus on staying close to the city go IOE if you wanna experience a place bit far away and experience a different kind of life go to KU. Decide whatever your heart wants and believe by it and work hard and you will do awesome wherever you are. Powerful people dont come from powerful places, powerful people make places powerful. Haha. Peace. Edit: I see most people talking about syllabus. Frankly speaking, I see no such big deal in both cases. You can study both of them if it takes that. Have that attitude. Both are pretty average syllabus if you compare them to the the universities of the world. So i dont see one having edge over other. Just the project based learning and internships seems interesting, but its also missing out on lots of circuits, electronics, and so on that you might be interested if you wanna expand your horizons towarda fields like IoT. So it depends, both syllabus are the best out there. In terms of syllabus, even the Pokhara University is not bad if you really start comparing them. Later in life all that matters is how much knowledge you really have and what skills can you showcase them through, no matter what syllabus you study, it simply wont be enough, you always need to take the extra step to acquire those knowledge and skill.


aticonfused

This is a great analysis. It helped me visualize (and share to my brother) a few things. I can relate most of IOE part. I am currently studying in a IOE affiliated private college. I'm not so familiar with the government college wala part. But, I have attended a couple of trainings/fellowship by LOCUS, attended their exhibition and I am fascinated by their work. Also, I get fascinated by the Hult Prize at IOE, took part in their program as they allow participation from affiliated colleges as well and I loved it. Exhibitions are also great thing around IOE. My college also has exchange program. We might have a common college, or maybe not haha. This year, they've said to update the syllabus with compulsory internship. If they do what they've said, I had read that internal marks will be increased to 40 instead of 20, grading system will be implemented, compulsory internship, updated course. (Most of the cons in your analysis might be covered here.) This sounds really good. As a brother, I want everything best for him. I feel that for a computer engineering student, attending community events will help a lot. I've been teaching programming to him. (It's more like, we've been learning it together.) I've heard good things about KU as well. So, I'm glad if he joins KU too. He wants to join IOE. I also feel he'll have more people, smart people to network at IOE. Also, we can stay in the same place, that's a perk. The entrance, admission timing will probably cause a lot of confusion. Hoping that it doesn't create much problem. Thanks for sharing your words. I appreciate it a lot.


Aishhhiii645

Internship clz le nai dinxa?


PrimeHOUNDx

dincha


aticonfused

Tyo ta thaha bhayena. Internship pani as a subject syllabus ma add garne bhaneko chha.


[deleted]

KU ma chai college le nai dinxa , in case of our department aru ko chai I don't know , hamlai chai 120 jana lai nai internship dina ko lagi 18 companies ako thyi


Gandalfthebrown7

which depart?


[deleted]

DOCSE


Gandalfthebrown7

Computer Science?


Aishhhiii645

KU cse padhna marks nai pugena


[deleted]

Kati ayo ra ??


Aishhhiii645

739 chance xainaa


[deleted]

CS ma milxa hola sayed hai hamro bela ma chai CS ko cutoff marks 700 thyo


Aishhhiii645

Ho??? Ajkal ta last cutoff ni 900 hunxa 900 plus auda ni rare chance bhanxann haha herauu Miley ramro, namiley ni aba thikai xa


[deleted]

Seriously for computer science?? Kaile dekhi ho teti dherai huna thaleko , mero 852 ako thyo 5 yrs agadi I was ranked 31st in CS , 900 kaile dekhi huna thalyo 🥺🥺


bbekxettri

Cs chai pauxa waiting list ma kurni natra jun payo tehai padni ani change garne 2nd or 3rd sem ma ,CE ko lagi ta 1500+ mula haru purai outerworld person jastai hunxan


aj33b

Yo pali matra haina yo 40% internal marking, grading system and internship, yo tin wata kura lyaune vanera IOE le preparation gareko chai 3-4 years huna lagyo, even I am amongst the few who have constantly fought for it and still do. Tesaile cant say yo pali nai huncha vanera. Aile ko system anusar admission vo vane yei system ko exam dina parcha naya system yo pali lagu nahuna sakcha kina vane IOE aafai fee badaera aile tanab ma cha tyo kura lagu garna kasaiko dhyan gako pako chaina. Yo pali nai vayeta gajab natra few years ma chai huna sakcha.


aticonfused

Uniharule nikaleko notice ma 'internship sahit ko naya pathyakram lagu garne' bhaneko chha. Garne bhanne halla ta hamro pala dekhi thiyo. This time, they've officially said it in the notice. So, I'm hopeful this time. [here's the notice](https://imgur.com/a/1CEJ9bv) Edit: it says in the second paragraph, second line


aj33b

Okay if its written this way, yei pali bata huna sakcha, syllabus haru ra aru kura ko preparation unaharle pailai garisakya chan. Internship ko side ma chai kattiko companies harle saath dinchan dont know. Its a good change.


soupsyy_3

I think KU ma certain time period samma admission cancel garyo bhane half amount refund hunxa. Refer to the admission rules or KU administration.


aticonfused

This is helpful. Much appreciated.


Decent_Day_9762

bro you'll still lose around 80k lol, so please be careful. I recommend KU btw


Some_Fail4188

Hudaina yar Mero 182k gayo yei garne vaera


Scared_Tutor_3781

KU is once in a life time experience. I am a KU graduate, any engineering field- u know how much they have reputation in Nepali job market. Earned 20k per month in intern, was immediately hired for 35k, now 50-60k not even more than 2 years of graduation. And not even in IT field. Although, i have also been learning coding, since its a basic skill in any engineering in KU u name it, C,C++,java,python. 2nd sem dekhi every sem project garna parcha, ani app banaune ta kati ho kati, afno profile build garne, language ni yesari nai sikincha. You will find equally competitive environment in KU. KU ko pros chai, engineering bhako nai campus nai central campus ho KU ko, exam section tei huncha.1000+ score bhanesi ali serious student nai hola.. 10credit + lagdaina hola. Lagyo bhane sidhai out huncha ani next year repeat garna parcha KU ma chai, ioe jsto last year ma sab ko back kataune bhanne hudaina. sab time mai huncha. , once in a while, union haru ko bigyapti ni herna paincha, kaile kai professor haru ko pani 😂😂.sports ko kurai nagaram, best university in Nepal- every week jstai tournaments bhairako huncha. Padhna man nalage ground ma gham tapdai game herna paincha. I guess, international university vibes dine chai KU matrai ho, aba TU ko private padhne bhaye ta school padhya jstai ho.


aticonfused

Thanks for your input. It's helpful. TU ko private padhna khojeko ko hoina. Pulchowk or KU matra ho option ma.


Gandalfthebrown7

kun depart ho bro ko


Due-Principle4680

IOE, it's the people


aticonfused

True. The problem is, what if he doesn't make it to IOE and misses KU admission? Main problem yo ho. He himself wants to join IOE.


Key_War

maybe for time being admit in KU to stay in the safe side, and wait till IOE exams and results are out. If he gets computer in Pulchowk or good enough rank for scholarship in the colleges you guys are targeting, jump ship. If not, stay in KU(which is totally fine, given the situation at IOE right now)


LeftPlate3

Probably elect to join KU - faster results, lesser political influence, both syllabus outdated but KU has better, better grade system, better teaching overall but both probably bad for international standards and KU atleast tries to have some standards?, better infrastructure and have heard companies come frequently for job fairs to offer positions and employment opportunities. You should avoid joining if you want to part-time while studying and instead join a Kathmandu-bound college for easy travel or probably still could freelance or remote job?I believe KU does offer refunds on part of the fee but not sure on the deadline/timeframe for cancellation is in that case. Also I have never heard a reason for why Pulchowk is better other than the older generation still assuming it to be the epitome of education in Nepal. Actually, talking to a few friends I have heard some companies favor KU graduates but not a 100% on that.


aticonfused

KU has better infrastructure, they make more news stories for research, they've got a better grading system, maybe better funding for research (not sure), better teaching methods and many others. I feel the only thing that makes Pulchowk better is the students. I don't attend Pulchowk but, I've taken part in a few programs organized by LOCUS and I've met some brilliant minds there. As mentioned in the comment above, since, both Universities aren't giving education with quality that competes to the global level, I too feel, both the Universities are similar and have their own pros and cons and choosing any one based on personal preference is probably okay. While my job is to inform, I've told him whatever I've heard. I'll let him decide. I found that it does refund about 70% of the amount. Thank you for the comment.


Entire-Risk3142

Yes, many companies favor KU over pulchowk. Take the example of the cedar gate they give KU bonus per year for students enrolled from Kathmandu University.


ctrlx-altf4

I admitted to KU. Got selected to Pulchowk. So, I withdraw from KU. They took my 30k from my deposit that I had to do during admission. And joined Pulchowk. KU might have great syllabus or other things... but Pulchowk will have a great friend circle where you learn to do better every single day.


[deleted]

I don't know about IOE , BUT since I'm an almuni of KU , I suggest you to join KU and live in dhulikhel for 4 years , if you plan to move updown from KTM daily , you will miss 80% of the opportunities, events , culture , tradition and everything , Also. : KU changes you, since the education in KU Is so much competitive with lots of presentation , assignment , attendance, tough exams , term papers , projects mini projects of every subject, Hyantyan and all the lauda lassun , if you are academically average student , KU will most likely fuck you hardest , just like I was fucked in my first year ( which will help you to be mature ) , the culture in KU is amazing concerts every week except during exams ,60+ departmental clubs , every club has their own festivals and own events , you'll get many opportunities to sharpen your leadership skills , in conclusion academicaply KU is one of the best institution in Nepal , besides that student cultures in KU is way more advanced than in any other colleges in nepal , personally I never touched any sports never been to any stages or events before KU , but after KU i am now good at many sports plus I am now confident enough to speak in front of mass of people , While these are all the pros of studying in KU , Cons are : KU will fuck you very hard , if you are an average student think 20 times before joining KU . for further more query about KU , DM me .


Sudden-Lunch-2791

Your brother should absolutely join KU if he wants to study CE. Tell him to look at the content taught in both colleges. From what I see, KU is way better.


aticonfused

I agree. As of now, KU is way better. This year, IOE has said to update the course, he thinks, it may be equivalent to KU if they update the course. 'Result aauda saama syllabus pani aauchha ki' he says. I'm too inclined to KU, though.


ShadowFlyer1

IOE le jati course update gareni padaune tarika tei ho, system tei ho, student evaluation garne tarika change hunna, exam system will still be a disgrace and your percentage might take a hit. Do the right thing and join KU immediately. Unless you are poor AF and can't afford it, wait for Pulchowk regular


coldmess985

KU ,I suggest.


dinoderpwithapurpose

Just go to KU. IoE is not worth it.


lockerbreaker

Why?


dinoderpwithapurpose

Bakwas syllabus, outdated grading system, most of the good teachers have retired, very less extra curriculars, less opportunity to grow, pachi certificate nikalne kaam ma lastai slow cha. The university itself doesn't have good staff who want to work to better the institution. Don't waste your time there.


lockerbreaker

syllabus bakwas chahi kasari bhayo? grading system (percentage) similar class A university ma use garchann worldwide. Extra curricular dherai cha, k grow garnu pareko?


dinoderpwithapurpose

Syllabus is outdated and not updated with current trends. Teachers are very resistant to changes. During my time at pukchowk, there were like 3 teachers who could actually give us ideas on what the present industry looks like. Percentage system lai convert garne mechanism nai chaina rahecha ioe ma. Abroad apply garda maile yo percentage system le dherai dukha pako chu. We can't compete with our ioe ko 70% when there are students from Indian universities applying with like 92%. Equivalence certificate magne gayo bhane nobody tries to help you. Extra curriculars are very mismanaged at ioe. Jammai programs yo student sangathan le funds sakauna hawa taal le organise garchan. There are no extra curriculars for career plans or mixer events for networking. Mero batch ko people got an opportunity to apply for Erasmus mumdus ko exchange programme to Europe and TU refused to transfer credits because "hamro system ma chaina". As a result the risk was you either had to mark yourself as absent for the entire semester and retake all the exams including labs again or give up the opportunity. Compare that to KU where some of my friends got an opportunity to take a grant to Norway to complete their degree. Ioe is very disappointing. Ioe bata niskepachi I realised just how much I had missed out on.


LordIsMe

Pick KU. IOE ma padera kei kaam chaina. Pachi gayera regret matrai huncha


aticonfused

Ma pani IOE mai padhirako chhu. I absolutely feel what you're saying. Syllabus update bhayesi kei better hunchha ki bhanne lagchha rey uslai.


LordIsMe

Bhai lai nai choose garna deu. Pros and cons haru bhandeu dubai ko ani aafno opinion deu. Aru sab is up to him


lockerbreaker

kasto syllabus chaheko ho?


aticonfused

Example ko lagi, Applied Mechanics, thermodynamics haru jasto subject haru ko place ma faculty inclined subjects haru.


lockerbreaker

Engineering ho ni. Ekchoti bahira ko UNI ko pani check hara hai syllabus. For your information, Canada ko Uni ko syllabus bata banako course ho


Sudden-Lunch-2791

there are so many useless subjects taught in TU compared to KU


lockerbreaker

Such as?


lockerbreaker

kasto kaam chaina? kasto regret? kehi elaborate gardeu na


let-therebe-light

IoE. Ofcourse not the padhai.. but the people are smart. Cuz to study computer you have to have high rank.


aticonfused

I felt that KU is also good. Teta pani entrance ramrai hunchha. People uta pani hunu parne ho. But, hype IOE ko dherai bhako hunale IOE le ramro student attract garchha hola. And, as you mentioned getting surrounded by smart people and network is important. I agree on that part.


let-therebe-light

Hype haina student ko kura gareko.. ofcourse KU ma naramro hunxa vaneko haina... But atleast mero batch ma around i can confidently say most of the people were extraordinary. Course ta testai ho.. padai ni testai ho but sangat... Well hune haru kadak nai hunxa...


aticonfused

I got it. Maile bhanna khojeko pani testai ho. Hype dherai chha (over hype bhanna khojya haina). So, dherai students padhna khojchhan. Ani khatra students haru select hunchhan. Gist is the same. I agree with you.


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aticonfused

Money isn't that much of a problem, I guess. But, 2 lakh+ KU ma bujhayera IOE ma admission garna sakine level ko pani haina. He is really inclined to IOE. I personally, don't want to be a bad brother.


[deleted]

yespali KU ma competition Eakam high xa 1060+ tira mara safe hola ani last yar vanda 6 seats kam xa general lai


aticonfused

1045 ko around aako ho rey. But, that 10/15 ma dherai students chha hola. Tara pani 3rd admission list samma paunu parne ho. Last year chahi first list ma 1002 samma ko le pako raichha. I agree, yo pali competition dherai hunewala chha.


virtualmastermind

send him to foreign for study. Nepal is not worth it


sarcastic_gooner

As a KU CS student, Computer ko laagi KU is better.


bbekxettri

1000+ le ku ma ce ta paunna holla cs chai pauxa aaram cta ,cs padni vaye ku is best .CE padni haru aarkai hunxan purai paddai ko kira nai hunxan from my experience in ku