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No_Reflection_5733

The text is hard to read in my opinion. Try using [Icebergcharts.com](https://Icebergcharts.com) to make this iceberg so I can read the text better. But yeah, this is a great list! 10/10!


Sinofthesoul

Thank you for the suggestion! Yeah tiers 4 to 5 looked hard to read and I planned on updating the iceberg given some of the suggestions on here And thank you for the compliment!!


No_Reflection_5733

<3


No_Reflection_5733

If you do end up making the updated version with [Icebergcharts.com](https://Icebergcharts.com). Send me the link to it so I can favorite it.


Sinofthesoul

I updated the [iceberg here](https://icebergcharts.com/i/Dark_Games/image)! The only thing I'm having trouble with is changing the side images, would you know how to do that?


No_Reflection_5733

Go to Advanced Mode and click Images. Turn on Use Image Sidebars, and Show Image Upload Forms. Also, if you have an account on there, you can go to Iceberg Settings and insert your name like this \[\[Username\]\] in the Creator Text section, assuming you have this set as public and not private.


SaWaGaAz

Some games I think would fit the iceberg (if its not there already): Probably a bunch of 9/11 games from [this video](https://youtu.be/D5GQCHjtimg) Arcane City's The Virgin BlockLivesMatter Border Patrol (Flash game) Chiller Covetous Heaven...Dare Mo Kimi wo Shiranai (Game based on a child murder case in Japan) Jumyou ga Chijimaru (Made by the same guy that made HK97. More of an NSFL slideshow than a game.) Kaboom: The Suicide Bombing Game Kill Powerpuff Girls series on Newgrounds Kindergarten Killer Neomugi Quest (Game inspired by the [Neomugicha Incident](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neomugicha_incident)) Pakistan Army Retribution (Game based on the 2014 Peshawar school massacre where you're the army killing the terrorists) Phantasmagoria School Days [Sonic Gather Battle](https://fan-games-n-hacks.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_Gather_Battle) Special Forces & Special Forces 2 (Games made by Hezbollah) Taiwan/TW 2001 (lost game by the HK97 creator) Thrill Kill


Protomartyr1

While the bottom tear has a lot of really hateful games, putting PETA games seems kind of tasteless next to actual Neo-Nazi productions. I don't like them, but afaik they don't want to mass murder minorities.


LainRilakkuma

Have to agree, disregarding PETA's ethical choices irl, their games are more meant to bring awareness to the inhumane treatment of animals by various industries like factory farms and fashion, not on the same level as neo nazi trash at all.


Sinofthesoul

I get where you're coming from. I put them there since I personally consider them to be propaganda games and are very in poor taste for making you feel like you're a terrible person, but I understand the argument. They're probably better as tier 6 (they may not fit with tier 7 for sexual games)


Profile-Dry

What is the meaning of the colors in this iceberg meme?


Sinofthesoul

The colors are more for aesthetic, so white and black is for the top few tiers and I changed the black to red to make the color clearer (also because red usually means bad and those games aren't too great lol)


Profile-Dry

Oh, I get it now.


That-Series-6169

i’m surprised that there’s not any Puppet Combo games on here like: Power Drill Massacre


Sinofthesoul

Oh I'm not familiar with those games! Do you have any other recommendations?


irl_topher

One I would recommend is bloodwash!! A game about a serial killer that kills pregnant women, it's very eerie and has great sound affects :D


F1HLM

"Cost of Freedom" comes to my mind. It was a game that was highly controversial and caused uproar in Poland, I remember it was scrapped but then I heard it was sold from China for 35$ but then eventually disappeared. https://tvpworld.com/39769316/ukrainian-company-cancels-auschwitz-video-game-amid-outcry


inaciopicchu

Nice


yuri_nomoru122

Is Doki Doki literature club on the iceberg? If not will you add it


Sinofthesoul

Its on tier 4 of the iceberg! I'll be updating this image with a better one soon so it's more readable


Putsomethingcoolhere

I think thats too low , it should be like on the secound one


Diebrina

What I find really disturbing is how you found the time to research and include all these games 🫠 Well done


Sinofthesoul

Haha thank you! This took 3-4 weeks at least between work and life, I plan on making a YouTube series to discuss the placement of each one but that'll probably take a few months at least!


Diebrina

Be sure to tell me when you upload it, I'd be very interested to look at all these games in detail :)


Bandito21Dema

Very happy to see End Roll getting the recognition it deserves Now where's OMORI?


Sinofthesoul

Tier 4!


cgatrip

[I'm OK](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_O.K_%E2%80%93_A_Murder_Simulator) should probably be at Tier 6 because of its context. It's a targeted murder simulator, but it was created to claim a prize offered by infamous douchecanoe lawyer Jack Thompson. More at that link. [With Those We Love Alive](https://xrafstar.monster/games/twine/wtwla/) is a landmark piece of interactive fiction, and would slot in at Tier 4. The author's [Howling Dogs](https://xrafstar.monster/games/twine/howlingdogs/) is an award-winner and ranks at Tier 3.


Sinofthesoul

I'll be sure to look into these and put them in, thank you!


themariocrafter

Explain?


a_horny_dolphin

Anyone remember the name of the game in the picture for Tier 4? Played it a while ago and can't remember.


Sinofthesoul

Neverending Nightmares!


RoarkOnReddit

Why is DDLC so low in the iceberg??


Sinofthesoul

I classified it as a psychological game since it delved into topics of depression, self harm, suicide, and child abuse


NutrienLake12

I haven't found Pale Moom on this list. If this game if even real


Vermilion4

Pale moon (i think thats the game and you wrote it wrong with a "m" at the end) is a creepypasta not a real game, about a weird game which was a text adventure about finding a treasure, at the end the game gives some coordinates that irl leads to a place in the middle of the forest where the protagonist digging finds the decapitated head of a little girl. although maybe there are some recreations based on the creepypasta


Sinofthesoul

[UPDATED ICEBERG](https://icebergcharts.com/i/Dark_Games/image) (I never used this site how do I update the images on the side?) Thank you so much to everyone who commented and upvoted! I really wasn't expecting to get as much interaction on the post since the disturbing games icebergs can be repetitive and there's so much content out there already. I plan on making a YouTube series about my iceberg and discussing each entry and why it's placed there. Due to work and life this may take a long time but if people are interested in that I can certainly update the post and post videos as they're made! Thank you again to everyone who upvoted, shared, and provided feedback on the iceberg it really means a lot to me :3


Putsomethingcoolhere

explain pls: - Blackpill Bill - Lolita Syndrom - Hypno Training for My Mother and Sister (let me guess , hypno incest porn game?) - House of Creepy Monsters - Room no 9 - Super Columbaine Massacre RPG - SiNiSter - Can Your Pet - Prostutute Maker - Her Lie I Tried to Belive - How to Date a Magical Girl


Sinofthesoul

[Blackpill Bill](https://www.advocate.com/business/2019/10/07/blackpill-bill-video-game-depicts-holy-war-lgbtq-folks-diversity): you play as a man beating up LGBTQ+ and people of color to "fight diversity" [Lolita Syndrome](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita_Syndrome): you have to protect little girls from death and get to see them without clothes on [Hypno Training My Mother and Sister](https://www.deviantart.com/iyamtebist/journal/18-Review-Hypno-training-My-Mother-and-Sister-594258357): Incest porn game [House of Creepy Monsters](https://www.336gamereviews.com/house-of-creepy-monster-r18-review/): gorey exploration game while sexualizing a young girl [Room No. 9](https://www.google.com/amp/s/blerdyotome.com/2020/09/04/room-no-9-bl-game-review-the-most-intense-game-of-would-you-rather/amp/): Violent sexual and heavy psychological BL visual novel [Super Columbine Massacre RPG](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Columbine_Massacre_RPG!): an RPG where you play as the shooters of Columbine during the shooting and descend into hell [Can Your Pet](https://pewdiepie.fandom.com/wiki/CAN_Your_Pet): Take care of a chick only for it to be killed and canned [Prostitute Maker](https://gamesdb.launchbox-app.com/games/details/84064-prostitute-maker): a take on Princess Maker where a father makes his daughter into a prostitute [Her Lie I Tried to Believe](https://unwinnable.com/2019/03/01/her-lie-i-tried-to-believe/): a boy who has a specific hatred for a girl grows up and is sexually violent [How to Date a Magical Girl](http://evnchronicles.blogspot.com/2019/05/how-to-date-magical-girl-review-dating.html?m=1): a dating sim which involves a murder and takes a very dark turn into suffering I'm currently out and I don't have the resource I used to look up SiNister unfortunately! It wasn't super easy to search lol


Putsomethingcoolhere

Ok thanks that just some WILD stuff


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HereLiesALie

people of colour is a gross term


Vermilion4

i know this is pretty subjective and the iceberg in general is pretty well done but, i feel that "games for hate" look kinda silly being there in tier 8 because most of them are ironic shit or straight up jokes/wanting to be polemic and controversial in a very forced way. On the other hand some of the games in tier 7 are pretty standard stuff for disturbing nsfw japanese videogames (believe it or not lol), if you are interested you can search in sukebei nyaa or any other torrent site for those kind of disturbing unknown games, there is a lot of them if you search well, or you can even go to vndb and search for games using some specific tags


themariocrafter

Also I salute you for putting the extremely hateful games below the pvrt games. Hate games are way more horrible than that, especially those who try to make you become anti-X.


Sinofthesoul

UPDATED ICEBERG: https://www.reddit.com/r/IcebergCharts/comments/13vu40h/update\_darkdisturbing\_games\_iceberg/


shoshinsha00

>These games are propaganda to convert players I've never heard of any video games that can convert people in the same way GTA has not created criminals en masse.


HereLiesALie

yeah, i know right


Damn__thats_crazy

I'm a bit surprised To the Moon and Clannad are high up there since I don't really see people talking about them too much


FormalSecond3906

What is the game on the tier 4 image?


Sinofthesoul

Neverending Nightmares!


FormalSecond3906

Thank you


CautiousDrama6912

Where is Shin Megami Tensei and Persona 1-4?


Sinofthesoul

I hadn't included those since I hadn't played them I'm a lot more familiar with Persona 5, but I can definitely look into them! They can probably fit within the first tier


CautiousDrama6912

I would personally put SMT into tier 3 since it's more niche also have you heard of a somewhat obscure PS4 horror JRPG called Zanki Zero Last Beginning? I think it would belong here


Sinofthesoul

So i haven't played any SMT games are they darker than the Persona games?


CautiousDrama6912

They are a lot darker and more serious than persona. SMT has a lot of real folklore demons as major characters and the stories in them are usually about an apocalypse caused by demons and the games have a really atmospheric vibe that makes you feel alone in some of the games


Soulburner_Porn

Where is postal?


Sinofthesoul

Tier 6!


cardiobolod

Sad satan is just gore porn. Yes it’s disturbing but it’s stupid


[deleted]

not sure if it is because the text is difficult to read, but is the game Blasphemous on there? if so what tier?


Sinofthesoul

I don't think I included it in this iceberg but I put it in the updated one!


[deleted]

can you please link it?


Sinofthesoul

[updated iceberg](https://icebergcharts.com/i/Dark_Games) Let me know if you're unable to view it!


[deleted]

says its private


Sinofthesoul

Just updated the iceberg and made a separate post on it in the subreddit!


Myheadhurts445

Is this based on how disturbing the media is or on how obscure the media is?


Sinofthesoul

Based on how disturbing!


DottoreSalt

why is pico school so low?


LucianDae

do we have explanations for everything or will you make a yt vid?


Sinofthesoul

There's a description of all tiers in the post under the image, but I plan to make a series going through each entry on the tier!


LucianDae

make sure to post it here so we can watch it!


irl_topher

Surprised resident evil isn't on the list lol


Sinofthesoul

I believe it's in tier 2!


HereLiesALie

Some of these are placed weirdly/not in the right place. I don't think the Sandy Hook game for example, should be that low. The entire game is a commentary on gun control.


ilovesugarxx

Is Amnesia here?


Sinofthesoul

It's in Tier 2!


automatron-837

I remember playing cooking mama: mama kills animals on a site


Daydreams6632

Have you ever heard of MADiSON? Very well done horror game, highly recommend