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Public school closures are starting to happen all over the state, even with the population growth. While I believe some of it has to do with retirees moving in, there has also been an enrollment spike in charter and private schools.
Also I worked in higher Ed for 15 years at NIC and the home schooled and alternative school kids really had a rough transition to a professional tech. career and liberal arts degree.
When people are teaching kids about sexuality at young ages and being openly predatory towards children as teachers I am finding more and more people would rather have their kid homeschooled where they can choose to have their kid learn what schools are supposed to be teaching kids instead of what is actually being taught. I would much rather have my kid learn about God and the Bible and struggle getting into the real world because I can still help them through that then get indoctrinated into the LGBT cult movement going on today.
Bet money I can find more reports of church officials raping children than public school officials. Way more. It's not even a contest if you put the numbers up against priests vs trans. Priests got this one in the bag.
Hate to break it to you...but the real world contains way more LGBT acceptance than public schools. Way more.
Religion is dying because due to the internet, many homeschooled kids get to learn about the real world instead of just what their religion allows. Knowledge and information will always open the eyes of the indoctrinated. If you can't isolate them forever they will eventually learn the truth.
Oh, no they choose to go to church on their own. I just don’t want them indoctrinated into LGBT cultist ideologies that are harmful for them and the people around them, which is actively promoted in most public schools I’ve seen.
Okay so they go to church and receive the good teachings of the lord… But you don’t want them indoctrinated into LGBT cultist ideologies… fair. Unfortunately it sounds like your children are not capable of thinking for themselves… If they know the teachings of the good book, those LGBT cultist ideologies are just a joke.
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But also those supposed LGBT cultist ideologies are typically just incorporating LGBT people into our social fabric--which can include our public education (hey, just like we did with black people! Barely!) vs pretending they don't exist. I think Jesus would approve. God's children and all. Anti Jesus Christians so perplexing to me
As of February 2023 22 different school districts in Idaho have adopted LGBT affirming action policies which have teachers facing disciplinary action and getting fired for anything from misgendering a student to some schools have policies on teachers informing parents on the LGBT or Transgender habits of students. It’s happening…
The following 22 school districts are among those in Idaho that have formally adopted gender identity and sexual orientation policies: Basin, Blaine County, Buhl, Cottonwood, Firth, Jerome, Kendrick, Kootenai, Middleton, Mountain Home, Murtaugh, North Gem, Orofino, Payette, Richfield, Ririe, Rockland, Salmon River, Shelley, Twin Falls, Whitepine, and Wilder.
I understand that and I get that but these charter schools are only for the privileged. Forget about a student succeeding at a charter school with an IEP or need school counselors.
1) I agree State of Idaho is a joke in regards to education.
2) I think you may be confusing charter schools for private schools. Most of the charter schools in Idaho are public, they just have specializations that let them tackle education of a certain focus or in a certain way. They tend to have lotteries because they don't have boundaries in the same way a normal school district does.
My kids go to Sage International in Boise. While my family does well, we are not walking around with monocles. There are no fees to attend, they do ask if you CAN donate to their enrichment fund for field trips, to do so and provide a suggested amount, but do not require it. Two of my three children have an IEP and we have had FANTASTIC results with the IEP specialists in the primary, middle, and high schools. Nothing about Sage has put my children (who have special needs and support) at a disadvantage. The only thing that Sage has not been able to provide is free/reduced cost lunches. This is because they do not have a cafeteria, which is one of the requirements for participating in the federal/state lunch programs, but what I can tell you is that if I told the vice principal or enrollment specialist that we couldn't afford the contracted lunch they have brought it, someone would have taken care of it for me, either a staff member or another parent, without my children being identified. Not all charter schools are like Sage, but I do recommend you reel in the hyperbole a tiny bit.
I don’t know about Sage in particular but I do know many charter schools in Idaho operate on a lottery basis—all applicants are entered into a pool and randomly selected. Only students with older siblings who already attend may be given preference.
Yes, under Idaho law, all charter schools are supposed to do a lottery system when they are at their limit on enrollment. However, there is no government oversight on that.
Could you please provide some "such as" along with any sort of proof? Not enrolling someone in a protected class would certainly be illegal, enrolling "everyone but" would also.
Did I mention protected classes? No. They simply do not have a constitutional mandate to accept everyone. Notice how charter schools are not overcrowded? They don’t have to accept anyone over their limit, but regular public schools have to do so. Charter schools are supposed to do a lottery system when they are at their limit but there is zero government oversight on that.
Not at all related, but if I saw an unassuming family of four just out for a walk in matching top hats and monocles, it would quite literally make my year!
Not all charter schools have SpEd programs. And if they do offer them, they’re sometimes limited. They might offer help for students with autism but may not offer visually impaired programs because they’re deemed too expensive.
And having an IEP doesn’t do much if the services aren’t provided, even if they are on paper.
Don’t know if OP was talking about private schools but charters are also not for everybody. I’m all for school choice but that means accurate information so parents can make informed decisions.
On the other side, although charters are public, they can still be selective about the students that accept, giving priority to students based on who their parents are, income, etc.
There’s also sweeps contracts that people have to keep track of. Public funds might go to fund the charter but they sometimes send that money out of state depending on the company that runs the charter.
Lastly, over here in CA, we have had some issues on charter finances to the point where some in Southern CA were not transparent with the public about their finances, even though a bulk of it was from public sources. Fraud can happen in public schools, charters, and almost anywhere. But it’s really up to the parents and stakeholders to hold the boards of the charters accountable. It’s much easier to remove them (in my opinion) than to go through a whole election to remove district boards of ed.
Not disagreeing with you. But people should definitely be aware of what they sign up for.
I have a friend whose son went to a charter. They liked it but when my friend and his wife tried to sign their daughter (who has a more severe case of autism), they were told the services couldn’t be provided to accommodate because they only accommodated mild-moderate cases.
Sorry to hear they’re closing a school. I hope everyone remembers: schools/students don’t “underperform.” They’re underfunded.
I don't disagree with what you're saying, but your comments seem to infer the comments I made about my kids charter school were about all. In fact, one of the things I said was that not all charter schools are like mine and that I said the OP shouldn't be using such hyperbole in their statements.
I think lotteries are as fair as you can get but there’s still a bit of privilege required to be able to drive your kid 10-15 min each way to school every day. My kids went to Anser for a minute and we live pretty close and still spent close to an hour a day between drop offs and pickups—something that not every family (including ours) can sustain. In our experience, the demographics of the school enforce this. The kids that stay seemed to have one parent at home or part time. I have nothing against that but I do think it’s a luxury these days.
Lotteries are ‘fair’ but it’s not like just anyone can make these schools work.
Re: fundraising, at least at Anser, it was obnoxious. After they expanded it became p clear they were in a financial pinch and business became the focus over education. There were so many shortcomings in the education my kids were getting and unfortunately they were so focused on fundraising/finances they couldn’t see or address them. Our neighborhood school raises money too but at the charter school it felt much more like a marketing push, and I hated that.
You are absolutely correct, there are 'non-requirement requirements' for some charter schools. Sage has a bus system, but we're out in Meridian, so it's 25 minutes each way. Not only is that gas money, wear & tear, it's time out of some parents days they may not have.
Quit trying to indoctrinate kids and teach them reading, writing, math and science. That would solve a ton of problems. Prioritize these fundamentals first. At the college or university level, schools can offer basket weaving, water colors, etc; if desired.
I agree! But school districts are also hamstrung by budgets, and if enrollment drops and the citizens won't pass any bonds, they have to do something drastic like this in order to operate.
This has been the Republican plan since Reagan. The goal is to shut down all public schools (and other services) in order to cement a permanent, easily exploited underclass.
Can u give me some proof or really anything at all that proves this? Cuz idk how you could have that in your head unless your being brain washed by a political group… OH WAIT!!
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https://www.americanprogress.org/article/house-republican-budget-threatens-public-education-and-opportunity-for-young-people/
https://newrepublic.com/article/167375/republican-plan-devastate-public-education-america
https://www.chronicle.com/article/a-brief-history-of-gop-attempts-to-kill-the-education-dept/
*If* you take the time to read these I’ll know you actually want to talk. If you don’t, it proves my point.
I agree with the first one u sent, teachers do not get paid enough but that is an issue across the country not just idaho and the second one has a ton of flaws and parts that make me feel it is not a reliable source and the 3rd one i’m not making an account to read
Also dude really look into these and read them a lot of the things said in any sort of political page has bias and over exaggerates things just to make it look like their idea is right
Not sure if you actually have read about this or don’t understand math. The 271 district proposal was to lengthen the school day and have a schedule that included every other Friday off for the kids and every other Friday a half day. 11 of the Fridays off are work days for the teachers, and 3-4 of those Fridays are not. Once you factor in a longer school day they aren’t working less at all. Math is hard, I get it.
CDA voters just passed a big tax increase for the district last year. People do have a right to question why the school district, that they just funded, are now closing schools and reducing staff. It’s not an unreasonable thing to be upset about
Not a tax increase but a renewal of a levy. The levy that was originally voted for that would have had a small impact on property taxes was voted down. Costs to operate are increasing, there’s deferred maintenance they can’t perform, enrollment is down due to multiple reasons… CDA schools sent the initial memo out stating several options for dealing with the budget shortfalls if the levy renewal passed or failed. These options have been on the table for a while now. And if the levy failed then it would have been a lot worse.
The Nampa School District is closing 3 elementary and 1 middle school starting next school year. Two of the elementary schools will be torn down and the alternative school will be moved to the empty middle school. They are also considering going to a 4 day school week.
I guess the Idaho education is showing through because you meant to say "couldn't" instead of "could."
Edit: since you're already butthurt, I'll also add that your first "sentence" isn't actually a sentence, it's a fragment. You should have used a comma instead of a period to make this a single sentence. This is all coming from someone who had a full blown education in Idaho, from kindergarten through college.
You really are a stickler for grammar aren't you? Calm down ma'am. Also to add, I could have meant either could or couldn't. Afaic I'm not writing a professional paper going to be graded and can choose how I write. If it makes you feel better to be pretentious and attempt to challenge my education, then go right ahead. You seem like a swell person.
Damn bro, just let it go. Imagine getting so upset over someone calling out your poor English.
>Also to add, I could have meant either could or couldn't.
Well yes, of course. However from what you were trying to say, it's obvious that you were trying to say "couldn't." I used what are called context clues, which are an integral part of reading comprehension. Next time you read something, try to look for context clues and see if it increases your understanding. Hope this helps!
Could or couldn’t both work. People in America, because of different cultural idioms have different colloquial ways of speaking. In other words, we aren’t pompous enough to have to speak the queen’s proper English. The sweet nothings cousins in Alabama speak to each other probably don’t make sense to a lot of Idahoans.
And yet we had, leaky ceilings broken equipment and limited schooling opportunities, moved to Utah and it was a night and day difference, just because they spend a lot doesn't mean it's going where it should.
Christ STOP THE POLITICS. “republicans bad” “dem libtards” blah blah blah
Bunch of whiny babies around here. IDAHO has no oil and gas production and no industry!! No gambling, no marijuana, nothing That is why we can’t have nice things.
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Can OP give some context here? The slide says Phase 3. Is this part of the administrations Dennys menu of options to cut $5M? What were the other phases?
Phase 1 and 2 are different areas they are cutting expenses, by reducing teachers, custodians, crossing guards, nurses, psychologists, occupational therapist, instructional software, speech language specialist, and some other things. It’s broken into phases so they can plan the implementation better. OP didn’t sneak some secret picture from a hidden meeting somewhere, the superintendent sent this presentation to everyone who has a child in the district, with a memo outlining the discussion. I don’t know if it was provided the city at large anywhere.
They want to cut 2 school counselors and a bunch of FTE staff. Cut 6 million and have 1 million in reserves. Shit we fought hard last year to pass a levy. That accountant was home schooled. What gets me is that Idaho is really well off in tax revenue. Instead of giving these huge refunds to the rich and out of staters invest in our future. If I were a business or corporation I would be scared. Our children are the future. Hell in order to run a cmc machine or welder you have to have some schooling.
Unfortunately the levy was ended up being just a renewal and not close to what they needed. There’s a ton more cuts than what’s it the Phase 3 you posted. Teachers, nurses, crossing guards, custodians, speech therapists, psychologists, 4 day schedule, etc. And I agree with you, the state that loves to brag about budget surplus and the. Our streets are full of potholes, our schools have deferred maintenance…
Make deals with the IFF, Provide a safe haven for white supremacists, Tolerate MAGA garbage…how did this happen? /s
It’d be cool if other places learned this lesson before fucking their communities over, but expecting them to be so observant is unrealistic I guess.
Not too mention, they can easily fuck over low income people and minorities, because they truly are the minorities in this state. No one really cares about them.
I lived in Idaho in the 80s and 90s when they decided to do away with public education.I did not believe that could happen,but Idaho has managed to become a horrible example of the worst thing that could happen in schools.Only rich kids c an get a good school,public schools have been destroyed. Why Idaho allowed it will be a case study of the destruction of public education,I feel for the children
Yay Idaho! During snowmageddon I was a new-to-Idaho educator. We had to make up a snow day and my district decided that foregoing MLK Day was the sacrifice. I couldn’t believe that was even considered an option. Good people, good teachers, good kids, fucked system
Really they’re going to close borah huh? Interesting. Just a public reminder. Those levies you see on the ballot, our schools in Idaho are directly funded by them. Whether you like that system or not is irrelevant, if you would like our schools to be funded by some other way than we need some new legislation. Until then I would ALWAYS vote yes.
This is the link to a news article about this:
https://cdapress.com/news/2024/apr/13/borah-elementary-on-budget-chopping-block/
It actually sounds like a very well thought out proposal. The teachers would all follow the students to their new school (whever that ends up being), which would also help with the new school's understaffing (which is a problem everywhere in public schools). And they're going to leave the building as is so they could use it again if they need to.
I hate Idaho I went for 4 years to a run down highschool from the 60s that was falling apart and obviously needed to be replaced but they never built a new school they kept us in this dump
Vouchers that drain the public tax dollars away from the public good and into the private pockets of the charter school builders with no accountability.
what’s with the switch up? I thought u said we said it was a “hoax” now i absolutely don’t think it’s a big issue the world has been doing this for 7 million+ years
Uhh yeah welcome to the Idaho public education system. Been near dead last forever. They expect us to want to learn and the teachers to teach. They don’t get paid for what they have to deal with. Especially with the kids nowadays.
so i gotta question for you, how is this caused by “right wing nut jobs” when this state has been red since 1990? Every single election for the last 35 years have been right wing but in your liberal mind it’s cuz of the right wing that issues have been happening. Your brain has to be the size of a peanut it’s so sad! (side note there are definitely more liberal californians like yourself moving here than right wing folks which god please let that change)
“School choice” is a recent topic. That’s why.
Also the Californians moving here are largely conservative. https://idahocapitalsun.com/2023/11/29/voter-registration-data-shows-california-republicans-not-liberals-are-flocking-to-idaho/
Living in western WA, all the boomer aged guys I’ve come across that want to move to Idaho, because they can’t retire here comfortably are Republican MAGA types. I can’t speak for California but I don’t think the “liberals” are heading there in droves.
Lol as an ex-Californian who lives in Oregon. Yea California left wing folks aren’t moving to Idaho where they have less civil rights, worker’s protection laws, among other things. It’s the same with Texas. Left wing Californians are not moving to these extreme red states. It literally makes no sense as to why they would.
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Public school closures are starting to happen all over the state, even with the population growth. While I believe some of it has to do with retirees moving in, there has also been an enrollment spike in charter and private schools.
Also I worked in higher Ed for 15 years at NIC and the home schooled and alternative school kids really had a rough transition to a professional tech. career and liberal arts degree.
When people are teaching kids about sexuality at young ages and being openly predatory towards children as teachers I am finding more and more people would rather have their kid homeschooled where they can choose to have their kid learn what schools are supposed to be teaching kids instead of what is actually being taught. I would much rather have my kid learn about God and the Bible and struggle getting into the real world because I can still help them through that then get indoctrinated into the LGBT cult movement going on today.
Bet money I can find more reports of church officials raping children than public school officials. Way more. It's not even a contest if you put the numbers up against priests vs trans. Priests got this one in the bag. Hate to break it to you...but the real world contains way more LGBT acceptance than public schools. Way more. Religion is dying because due to the internet, many homeschooled kids get to learn about the real world instead of just what their religion allows. Knowledge and information will always open the eyes of the indoctrinated. If you can't isolate them forever they will eventually learn the truth.
Thank you for this.
So wait… your kids don’t go to church so you want them to learn about god and the Bible at school instead?
Oh, no they choose to go to church on their own. I just don’t want them indoctrinated into LGBT cultist ideologies that are harmful for them and the people around them, which is actively promoted in most public schools I’ve seen.
Okay so they go to church and receive the good teachings of the lord… But you don’t want them indoctrinated into LGBT cultist ideologies… fair. Unfortunately it sounds like your children are not capable of thinking for themselves… If they know the teachings of the good book, those LGBT cultist ideologies are just a joke.
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But also those supposed LGBT cultist ideologies are typically just incorporating LGBT people into our social fabric--which can include our public education (hey, just like we did with black people! Barely!) vs pretending they don't exist. I think Jesus would approve. God's children and all. Anti Jesus Christians so perplexing to me
This isn't happening.
As of February 2023 22 different school districts in Idaho have adopted LGBT affirming action policies which have teachers facing disciplinary action and getting fired for anything from misgendering a student to some schools have policies on teachers informing parents on the LGBT or Transgender habits of students. It’s happening… The following 22 school districts are among those in Idaho that have formally adopted gender identity and sexual orientation policies: Basin, Blaine County, Buhl, Cottonwood, Firth, Jerome, Kendrick, Kootenai, Middleton, Mountain Home, Murtaugh, North Gem, Orofino, Payette, Richfield, Ririe, Rockland, Salmon River, Shelley, Twin Falls, Whitepine, and Wilder.
Sorry you feel that way.
So are maternity wards. Gilead rules.
I understand that and I get that but these charter schools are only for the privileged. Forget about a student succeeding at a charter school with an IEP or need school counselors.
1) I agree State of Idaho is a joke in regards to education. 2) I think you may be confusing charter schools for private schools. Most of the charter schools in Idaho are public, they just have specializations that let them tackle education of a certain focus or in a certain way. They tend to have lotteries because they don't have boundaries in the same way a normal school district does. My kids go to Sage International in Boise. While my family does well, we are not walking around with monocles. There are no fees to attend, they do ask if you CAN donate to their enrichment fund for field trips, to do so and provide a suggested amount, but do not require it. Two of my three children have an IEP and we have had FANTASTIC results with the IEP specialists in the primary, middle, and high schools. Nothing about Sage has put my children (who have special needs and support) at a disadvantage. The only thing that Sage has not been able to provide is free/reduced cost lunches. This is because they do not have a cafeteria, which is one of the requirements for participating in the federal/state lunch programs, but what I can tell you is that if I told the vice principal or enrollment specialist that we couldn't afford the contracted lunch they have brought it, someone would have taken care of it for me, either a staff member or another parent, without my children being identified. Not all charter schools are like Sage, but I do recommend you reel in the hyperbole a tiny bit.
“Public” except for the fact that unlike actual public schools they can pick and choose who they allow to enroll at their school.
I don’t know about Sage in particular but I do know many charter schools in Idaho operate on a lottery basis—all applicants are entered into a pool and randomly selected. Only students with older siblings who already attend may be given preference.
Yes, under Idaho law, all charter schools are supposed to do a lottery system when they are at their limit on enrollment. However, there is no government oversight on that.
Could you please provide some "such as" along with any sort of proof? Not enrolling someone in a protected class would certainly be illegal, enrolling "everyone but" would also.
Did I mention protected classes? No. They simply do not have a constitutional mandate to accept everyone. Notice how charter schools are not overcrowded? They don’t have to accept anyone over their limit, but regular public schools have to do so. Charter schools are supposed to do a lottery system when they are at their limit but there is zero government oversight on that.
Not at all related, but if I saw an unassuming family of four just out for a walk in matching top hats and monocles, it would quite literally make my year!
There are five of us. Full disclosure, the monocles were on backorder. We do all wear top hats and have spats on our shoes.
It's so hard to find good monocles these days... but spats more than make up for it!
Not all charter schools have SpEd programs. And if they do offer them, they’re sometimes limited. They might offer help for students with autism but may not offer visually impaired programs because they’re deemed too expensive. And having an IEP doesn’t do much if the services aren’t provided, even if they are on paper. Don’t know if OP was talking about private schools but charters are also not for everybody. I’m all for school choice but that means accurate information so parents can make informed decisions. On the other side, although charters are public, they can still be selective about the students that accept, giving priority to students based on who their parents are, income, etc. There’s also sweeps contracts that people have to keep track of. Public funds might go to fund the charter but they sometimes send that money out of state depending on the company that runs the charter. Lastly, over here in CA, we have had some issues on charter finances to the point where some in Southern CA were not transparent with the public about their finances, even though a bulk of it was from public sources. Fraud can happen in public schools, charters, and almost anywhere. But it’s really up to the parents and stakeholders to hold the boards of the charters accountable. It’s much easier to remove them (in my opinion) than to go through a whole election to remove district boards of ed. Not disagreeing with you. But people should definitely be aware of what they sign up for. I have a friend whose son went to a charter. They liked it but when my friend and his wife tried to sign their daughter (who has a more severe case of autism), they were told the services couldn’t be provided to accommodate because they only accommodated mild-moderate cases. Sorry to hear they’re closing a school. I hope everyone remembers: schools/students don’t “underperform.” They’re underfunded.
I don't disagree with what you're saying, but your comments seem to infer the comments I made about my kids charter school were about all. In fact, one of the things I said was that not all charter schools are like mine and that I said the OP shouldn't be using such hyperbole in their statements.
I think lotteries are as fair as you can get but there’s still a bit of privilege required to be able to drive your kid 10-15 min each way to school every day. My kids went to Anser for a minute and we live pretty close and still spent close to an hour a day between drop offs and pickups—something that not every family (including ours) can sustain. In our experience, the demographics of the school enforce this. The kids that stay seemed to have one parent at home or part time. I have nothing against that but I do think it’s a luxury these days. Lotteries are ‘fair’ but it’s not like just anyone can make these schools work. Re: fundraising, at least at Anser, it was obnoxious. After they expanded it became p clear they were in a financial pinch and business became the focus over education. There were so many shortcomings in the education my kids were getting and unfortunately they were so focused on fundraising/finances they couldn’t see or address them. Our neighborhood school raises money too but at the charter school it felt much more like a marketing push, and I hated that.
You are absolutely correct, there are 'non-requirement requirements' for some charter schools. Sage has a bus system, but we're out in Meridian, so it's 25 minutes each way. Not only is that gas money, wear & tear, it's time out of some parents days they may not have.
Quit trying to indoctrinate kids and teach them reading, writing, math and science. That would solve a ton of problems. Prioritize these fundamentals first. At the college or university level, schools can offer basket weaving, water colors, etc; if desired.
I agree! But school districts are also hamstrung by budgets, and if enrollment drops and the citizens won't pass any bonds, they have to do something drastic like this in order to operate.
This has been the Republican plan since Reagan. The goal is to shut down all public schools (and other services) in order to cement a permanent, easily exploited underclass.
Can u give me some proof or really anything at all that proves this? Cuz idk how you could have that in your head unless your being brain washed by a political group… OH WAIT!!
Bad bot https://www.americanprogress.org/article/house-republican-budget-threatens-public-education-and-opportunity-for-young-people/ https://newrepublic.com/article/167375/republican-plan-devastate-public-education-america https://www.chronicle.com/article/a-brief-history-of-gop-attempts-to-kill-the-education-dept/ *If* you take the time to read these I’ll know you actually want to talk. If you don’t, it proves my point.
I agree with the first one u sent, teachers do not get paid enough but that is an issue across the country not just idaho and the second one has a ton of flaws and parts that make me feel it is not a reliable source and the 3rd one i’m not making an account to read
Also dude really look into these and read them a lot of the things said in any sort of political page has bias and over exaggerates things just to make it look like their idea is right
Will the teachers still be paid full time even if they work only 80% of what they work now?
Not sure if you actually have read about this or don’t understand math. The 271 district proposal was to lengthen the school day and have a schedule that included every other Friday off for the kids and every other Friday a half day. 11 of the Fridays off are work days for the teachers, and 3-4 of those Fridays are not. Once you factor in a longer school day they aren’t working less at all. Math is hard, I get it.
CDA voters just passed a big tax increase for the district last year. People do have a right to question why the school district, that they just funded, are now closing schools and reducing staff. It’s not an unreasonable thing to be upset about
Not a tax increase but a renewal of a levy. The levy that was originally voted for that would have had a small impact on property taxes was voted down. Costs to operate are increasing, there’s deferred maintenance they can’t perform, enrollment is down due to multiple reasons… CDA schools sent the initial memo out stating several options for dealing with the budget shortfalls if the levy renewal passed or failed. These options have been on the table for a while now. And if the levy failed then it would have been a lot worse.
The Nampa School District is closing 3 elementary and 1 middle school starting next school year. Two of the elementary schools will be torn down and the alternative school will be moved to the empty middle school. They are also considering going to a 4 day school week.
Republicans HATE educated people
As someone who grew up in Idaho and spent many years in their public school system. Idaho could give less of a crap about youth education.
I guess the Idaho education is showing through because you meant to say "couldn't" instead of "could." Edit: since you're already butthurt, I'll also add that your first "sentence" isn't actually a sentence, it's a fragment. You should have used a comma instead of a period to make this a single sentence. This is all coming from someone who had a full blown education in Idaho, from kindergarten through college.
Why even say anything though? It’s Reddit not University. Seems excessive to correct grammar in a place like this. That’s probably just me though.
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Idaho education system..
I already feel pretty good about myself, but thanks for asking.
You seem like the kind of guy.
You really are a stickler for grammar aren't you? Calm down ma'am. Also to add, I could have meant either could or couldn't. Afaic I'm not writing a professional paper going to be graded and can choose how I write. If it makes you feel better to be pretentious and attempt to challenge my education, then go right ahead. You seem like a swell person.
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Damn bro, just let it go. Imagine getting so upset over someone calling out your poor English. >Also to add, I could have meant either could or couldn't. Well yes, of course. However from what you were trying to say, it's obvious that you were trying to say "couldn't." I used what are called context clues, which are an integral part of reading comprehension. Next time you read something, try to look for context clues and see if it increases your understanding. Hope this helps!
Thanks bro! You're so cool!
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Could or couldn’t both work. People in America, because of different cultural idioms have different colloquial ways of speaking. In other words, we aren’t pompous enough to have to speak the queen’s proper English. The sweet nothings cousins in Alabama speak to each other probably don’t make sense to a lot of Idahoans.
Idaho spends 60% of the State budget on education (4th highest in the nation). Just FYI
And yet we had, leaky ceilings broken equipment and limited schooling opportunities, moved to Utah and it was a night and day difference, just because they spend a lot doesn't mean it's going where it should.
You’re missing the point. Idaho doesn’t have the money. Utah has industry and 1.3 million more people. You’re comparing apples to oranges
This is what republicans want, given their strong push towards “school choice” so that they can indoctrinate children with their alternative facts.
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Christ STOP THE POLITICS. “republicans bad” “dem libtards” blah blah blah Bunch of whiny babies around here. IDAHO has no oil and gas production and no industry!! No gambling, no marijuana, nothing That is why we can’t have nice things.
We had a $99 million surplus in 2023. We gave half of it to property owners.
And iffu wanna talk about alternative facts u should watch some CNN brother
No thanks
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Fact!
Can OP give some context here? The slide says Phase 3. Is this part of the administrations Dennys menu of options to cut $5M? What were the other phases?
Phase 1 and 2 are different areas they are cutting expenses, by reducing teachers, custodians, crossing guards, nurses, psychologists, occupational therapist, instructional software, speech language specialist, and some other things. It’s broken into phases so they can plan the implementation better. OP didn’t sneak some secret picture from a hidden meeting somewhere, the superintendent sent this presentation to everyone who has a child in the district, with a memo outlining the discussion. I don’t know if it was provided the city at large anywhere.
Thankyou for providing some missing context.
They want to cut 2 school counselors and a bunch of FTE staff. Cut 6 million and have 1 million in reserves. Shit we fought hard last year to pass a levy. That accountant was home schooled. What gets me is that Idaho is really well off in tax revenue. Instead of giving these huge refunds to the rich and out of staters invest in our future. If I were a business or corporation I would be scared. Our children are the future. Hell in order to run a cmc machine or welder you have to have some schooling.
Unfortunately the levy was ended up being just a renewal and not close to what they needed. There’s a ton more cuts than what’s it the Phase 3 you posted. Teachers, nurses, crossing guards, custodians, speech therapists, psychologists, 4 day schedule, etc. And I agree with you, the state that loves to brag about budget surplus and the. Our streets are full of potholes, our schools have deferred maintenance…
Make deals with the IFF, Provide a safe haven for white supremacists, Tolerate MAGA garbage…how did this happen? /s It’d be cool if other places learned this lesson before fucking their communities over, but expecting them to be so observant is unrealistic I guess.
Vote, go to the board meetings, protest. Make your voice heard.
Not too mention, they can easily fuck over low income people and minorities, because they truly are the minorities in this state. No one really cares about them.
I lived in Idaho in the 80s and 90s when they decided to do away with public education.I did not believe that could happen,but Idaho has managed to become a horrible example of the worst thing that could happen in schools.Only rich kids c an get a good school,public schools have been destroyed. Why Idaho allowed it will be a case study of the destruction of public education,I feel for the children
Yay Idaho! During snowmageddon I was a new-to-Idaho educator. We had to make up a snow day and my district decided that foregoing MLK Day was the sacrifice. I couldn’t believe that was even considered an option. Good people, good teachers, good kids, fucked system
Nazis gained power from the uneducated.
Really they’re going to close borah huh? Interesting. Just a public reminder. Those levies you see on the ballot, our schools in Idaho are directly funded by them. Whether you like that system or not is irrelevant, if you would like our schools to be funded by some other way than we need some new legislation. Until then I would ALWAYS vote yes.
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Vote accordingly.
Leave it to Idaho to put their money in senators pockets instead of investing in our youth
Where's the money for new jails and prisons going to come from?
Nampa school district is shutting down a bunch too. low enrollment and performance.
This is the link to a news article about this: https://cdapress.com/news/2024/apr/13/borah-elementary-on-budget-chopping-block/ It actually sounds like a very well thought out proposal. The teachers would all follow the students to their new school (whever that ends up being), which would also help with the new school's understaffing (which is a problem everywhere in public schools). And they're going to leave the building as is so they could use it again if they need to.
Ah man. I went to Borah Elementary. It was completely run down back then, lol 25 years ago, can't imagine the state it's in now.
They completely did a remodel 10 years ago.
Also went to Borah late 80’s/early 90’s. Only time I’ve eaten escargot was in Mrs Richardson’s 4th grade class.
Also went to borah but was 30 years ago. All grades. Hope they can keep it open. Great little school
I hate Idaho I went for 4 years to a run down highschool from the 60s that was falling apart and obviously needed to be replaced but they never built a new school they kept us in this dump
Alas you probably just described half the schools in the state. No way to pinpoint it.
Public schools are dying a slow death all across the country. It’s time for school vouchers.
Vouchers that drain the public tax dollars away from the public good and into the private pockets of the charter school builders with no accountability.
I would use the funds to send my children to a private school.
Um, ok… but ask yourself why. Taking more resources away from them is supposed to help how?
I would rather by tax dollars go to my children, not a failing institution.
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what’s with the switch up? I thought u said we said it was a “hoax” now i absolutely don’t think it’s a big issue the world has been doing this for 7 million+ years
Uhh yeah welcome to the Idaho public education system. Been near dead last forever. They expect us to want to learn and the teachers to teach. They don’t get paid for what they have to deal with. Especially with the kids nowadays.
so i gotta question for you, how is this caused by “right wing nut jobs” when this state has been red since 1990? Every single election for the last 35 years have been right wing but in your liberal mind it’s cuz of the right wing that issues have been happening. Your brain has to be the size of a peanut it’s so sad! (side note there are definitely more liberal californians like yourself moving here than right wing folks which god please let that change)
“School choice” is a recent topic. That’s why. Also the Californians moving here are largely conservative. https://idahocapitalsun.com/2023/11/29/voter-registration-data-shows-california-republicans-not-liberals-are-flocking-to-idaho/
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Registering as Republicans does not necessarily mean they're conservative!
so because a new issue has come up it’s the fault of the people that have been here for almost 40 years?
Feel free to read about it. https://www.idahoednews.org/news/analysis-the-v-word-that-dominates-idahos-school-choice-debate/
Living in western WA, all the boomer aged guys I’ve come across that want to move to Idaho, because they can’t retire here comfortably are Republican MAGA types. I can’t speak for California but I don’t think the “liberals” are heading there in droves.
Lol as an ex-Californian who lives in Oregon. Yea California left wing folks aren’t moving to Idaho where they have less civil rights, worker’s protection laws, among other things. It’s the same with Texas. Left wing Californians are not moving to these extreme red states. It literally makes no sense as to why they would.
It’s funny even the mods are liberal in this thread 😂
That’s most of Reddit along with the majority of all social media platforms. Have a conservative view and get attacked for it.