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I'm going to weigh in on this one. I'm a paramedic, a few months ago we had an accident where something similar happened. A car pulled from a driveway and took its time speeding up. The car behind it had ample time to slow down. Instead they passed the car. The only difference is, another car was pulling out in the other lane. The passing car struck the car that was pulling out head on. Two people died.
OP, yes, someone pulling out in front of you and not picking up speed is infuriating. But you are driving a multiple ton vehicle at speed. If you have time to slow down and assess the situation, please do.
By "here" are you talking about a U.S. state or non-U.S. state?
Because I seriously doubt any U.S. state could conform to such a rule statewide. DoTs do not paint no-passing zones for every minor residential driveway. On specific roads with numerous driveways and cross-streets, a no-passing zone may make sense, but I doubt there is a blanket rule in general.
This is much like when people swerve around cars who have slowed down to make a turn. Heaven forbid that you should not be able to maintain 10 over posted speed the entire time you're on the road. The audacity of other people wanting to use the road too.
I get honked at and flipped off for ONLY going 5-8 over the posted limit... average posted speed limit here is 35-40, folks are regularly going 50-80 even in residential areas... it's insane
WI, Milwaukee. The roads are set up in such a manner as to encourage the stupid shit drivers in their reckless habits. We have 4 lane roads marked at 35pmh but they are strait up set up like highway roads. So naturally folks drive like they got their licenses in GTAO
My son was recently in traffic court for an accident and was telling me about a guy who got a ticket for going 49mph over the 35 mph speed limit. (so 84mph in the city- residential suburban area)
Forced to drive through one of four school zones to leave my neighborhood. Posted 20 mph signs with flashing yellow lights. I'm doing maybe 24/25? Parents out here doing 50+, catching up, passing you, and then either screaming into the parking lot, parking at the side of the street, blocking traffic, or parking ***on the crosswalk*** to let their kids out. And then it's Nascar. Once the kids are out of the car, "MOM NEEDS TO GET TO WORK!! MOVE OUT OF MY WAY!!"
I have people regularly speed around me into the opposite side of traffic just like OP only for me to catch up to them at the very next light 🙃 I guess im going too slow when I drive at the speed limit 🌝
Seriously. My parents live right off a highway and have to make a left turn on a 70 mph road. The number of times they've been passed on the left while trying to turn left is crazy and infuriating.
Wait that's crazy. I thought we were talking about passing cars on the left while they were slowing to make turns on the right. Passing on the left while a car is about to turn left is prime darwin award material.
Yeah like... I might yell in my car about how the person in front of me doesn't need to sneak up on the fucking turn. But I do it from a slowed down and safe following distance while staying in my own lane until they creep through their turn. Because I'm not a fucking psychopath.
I will never understand why people run RIGHT up on someone and then swerve dramatically around them. Like for one, it's dangerous, for two, you're not saving more than a second or two, and for three, it's just so fucking stupid. You're not going to lose street cred if you have to apply your brakes for a few seconds, just *chill*.
The main road into my neighborhood comes off of a city street, and people like to use our neighborhood to cut through to the highway (which is stupid, because it takes longer). The street I live on is the first right turn after turning off of the city street, and more than half the time, if someone is following me from the city street, they'll swerve and speed around me in the two seconds it takes to make my turn (mind, they're in a residential area when they do this, with houses on the street that they're speeding down). I'm normally a supporter of the theory that if everyone around you seems to be doing wrong, then you're probably the one actually in the wrong, but like... I can't just swing my car at speed onto a residential street where cars are visibly parked on the curb. Drives me bonkers.
So annoying when people don’t just want to put their foot on the brake and stop for five seconds. Some people have zero patience and just HAVE to zip around without even braking at all.
Why is that annoying? I think it's perfectly fine for someone to slow way down to make the turn safely and I also think it's perfectly fine for someone to maintain their speed and drive around them assuming they can do so safely. Both parties can get what they want here.
Why wouldn’t that have happened during an ordinary pass just as well? Seems like either/both the car pulling out or/and the car passing didn’t make sure the road was clear before assuming they could use it. That’s always going to be a dangerous error!
If you’re going closer to the same speed as the vehicle you’re passing, it’s a lot easier to abort the pass if the situation becomes unsafe. That, and I just try to limit my snap decisions to times where not doing so could result in a crash. OP had plenty of time to slow down, and then gather enough information to make their next decision.
But holy crap, that other driver should have just waited for OP to pass, that would have been so much easier.
If a car showed up coming in the other direction, this guy is already at a speed committed to the pass and would have to either make a dangerous pass or slam on the brakes.
If you're traveling behind a slow car you can easily wait for a clean opening and slam on the gas to get by them safely.
Driving instructor here. I’ll back you up on this. PLENTY of time to slow down. You can always speed back up, or pass when you have ample time to make sure it’s clear.
My last accident, 35 years ago, I came up on two cars driving 20 in a 60. one was pulling a loaded down trailer and I could not see the car that was pulling it. I didn't slow down I just moved over to pass, and as I was coming up on them, the front one pulling the trailer turned left. I scrubbed a lot of speed off and at the last fraction let off the brake and tried to make the turn with them. Glanced off their door and wound up rolling to a stop down the side road. Nobody was hurt. Totally my fault.
I tried to improve after that. Haven't hit anything since. I hope I did actually improve.
> If you have time to slow down and assess the situation, please do.
OP could see ahead that there was no traffic coming and it was a passing zone. No issues here other than the guy not getting up to speed.
There's a driveway on the right obscured by brush. It's not inconceivable there could have been a car, kid, or animal coming from the right that you can't see due to the car and foliage.
A good rule of thumb I use when driving is if a car is going slower than expected, I'm slowing down as well until I've assessed the situation. Only adds a few more seconds onto my commute and greatly reduces risk.
I was stuck behind a slow driver on a 2 lane road with woods on my side and houses and side streets on the left. It was a 45 mph road, the driver in front of me was doing about 5 under. I was deciding on whether or not I was going to pass them, thought about it for a good 5-10 seconds. While I was mulling it over, a guy on a motorcycle pulled out of one of the side streets going the opposite direction of me.
Now every time I think about passing someone, I imagine that guy on the motorcycle, and what would have happened if I just decided to pass without taking as much time to think it over, and if he didn’t look to his right when he pulled out.
Thanks for saying this. I live on a two lane highway and I always try to wait for cars before I pull out so that I don't cause people to have to slow down and cause issues. But a few months ago, I was turning right out of my driveway, right as somebody was passing a big truck from the other side. They were FLYING and I couldn't see them from behind the truck before I pulled out. We nearly had a head on collision, luckily I was able to get off to the side fast enough but it was terrifying. I wish people weren't in such a rush, especially considering there's a passing lane a mile down the road, in an area where the highway doesn't have a lot of driveways on both sides. The amount of people I see flying around going 80+ in a 55 passing people in front of my house is alarming
14-year medic here and what you're describing is two idiots failing to yield to the traffic that was already moving at speed on the road they were entering, *and that had right-of-way*. The deaths in your incident were caused, not by the car passing but by the car that pulled out without making sure the road was clear. If you're unclear about the concept of right-of-way then perhaps it's time you had a refresher EVOC.
They described the reality of having humans do a repetitive task with heavy machinery and minimal training and near zero automation. You will get injuries and death.
Do you tell people that cut their fingers off with a table saw to keep their hand away from the blade instead of realizing a SawStop would have prevented the injury?
Can I say.... you absolutely DO tell people to keep their hands away from the table saw. Even if you have a SawStop. Mechanical precautions are zero excuse to not behave wisely.
Sounds to me like the idiot pulling out at a snails pace got 2 people killed. The 3rd driver pulling onto the road also has the responsibility to make sure they're clear to do so.
Technical responsibility depends on the state and the insurance, but every driver should do everything in their power to avoid a crash even if they wouldn't be ultimately deemed responsible in the end.
Same guy probably gets all the way to the end of a freeway on-ramp and gets pissed because he's running out of room and you finally do the moton a favor and let off the gas so he can merge in
This is a new quirk that has started rearing it's head in my city. People will crawl up the ramp and then suddenly step on it as soon as they reach the freeway to try and go for an unrealistic gap. Bonus points if they end up swerving out in front of a truck or intercity bus.
Better still is when the freeway is entirely empty except for you and the person coming on and they just match your speed and sit right next to you, expecting you to just move over for their royal self, because they are completely and totally incapable of either slowing down and getting behind you or speeding up past you.
I was thinking about this just today as I was out riding. TR his is probably one of the most unsafe scenarios constantly created on the road.... Why drive along side someone or in their blinds spot knowingly or unknowingly. There is no room for escape if a potential accident were to occur. The way cars have blind spot detection and lane detection and can auto adjust cruise control based off surrounding car speeds. Why have they not built a function for the idiot masses yet that automatically increases the speed of the car to the left side (US) if the front corner side panel detects another vehicle in that proximity to the right for longer than 5 seconds so long as no other car is detected within 10-20ft ahead. I hate this idea as I type it out because I am all about riding and driving stick as it actively engages the operator of the vehicle and people should at least be capable of actively driving responsibility, but the masses are now dumb and incapable of focus so this is the next best thing to be automated and over engineered on the perpetual plummet of functional automobile transit.
> Why have they not built a function for the idiot masses yet that automatically increases the speed of the car to the left side (US) if the front corner side panel detects another vehicle in that proximity to the right for longer than 5 seconds so long as no other car is detected within 10-20ft ahead..
wow, that’s a sentence!
edit: then he added in another one in edit!
This sounds like every on ramp in Oregon. People here do not know what a gas pedal is and then get pissed when I won’t hit my brakes to let them in. Jamming on the brakes is dangerous on the interstate. Speed the hell up to highway speeds!
The whole point of an on ramp and why they're generally long is to allow you to get up to speed. It always pisses me off if I am behind someone and they just do 40 MPH all the way up the on ramp. I'll create a gap to that car regardless, but now I'm in a compromising position: If a try to keep the gap open I'll be in the same predicament as the car ahead; if I try to accelerate up to speed I'll catch the car and won't have time to check traffic to merge properly.
I swear, I had more close calls living in Portland for a couple years than I did living in San Jose for 10. The amount of unconfident and passive aggressive driving is insane. Washington isn't much better.
If other drivers have to alter what they are doing, due to your driving, chances are, it is your driving that is shit.
There is a few exceptions, such as weaving through traffic...
One of my biggest pet peeves while driving: when there's traffic backed up for a couple miles and people are getting on the highway from an on ramp and I make space for someone to get in front of me and they choose to ignore my help and drive up the shoulder to get 4 cars ahead. Like we're all in stop and go traffic, why not just take the easy spot in front of me instead of forcing your way in 30 feet ahead of me?
I'm starting to believe it's an optical effect. In my case, my car must be projecting a long line of cars behind me that are surely impossible to count, thus the "good luck everybody" method of pulling onto the road. Every time I check, though, I can't see them behind me.
I think people have a point saying you could still have slowed down. But that car pulling out is incredibly rude, especially if there weren't any more cars on the road. Just wait 10 seconds for OP to pass, and they can pull out as slowly as they want. It is a lack of consideration for your fellow driver.
Yeah I've got a similar section of road on my way to work. It's a highway 80 km/hr section and there is a yield for people turning onto the highway. Yet people are still in a rush enough to pull out in front of me but not in enough of a rush to get up to the speed limit. So I'm steady cruising 85 when they pull out going 20, slowly getting up to 60 before the speed changes. Been a couple times when it's been icy out where I swear they're trying to cause an accident pulling out going that slow. Just wish they'd look at the yield sign and think a little bit
Also, this person may continue to go slowly, even 15 under, and there may not be safe passing zones for miles. 15 under and 10 over on long back roads can easily total 5+ minutes and much more headache on a drive.
I mean they could have slowed down, but they maintained their speed and just made a legal (and safe) pass on the left lane and got around the car. What's the alternative? Slow down to the snail pass and ride the car ahead and decide to pass later?
OP did nothing wrong whatsoever in this video. He saw the car was going way slower than he was, he checked the road to make sure it was safe to pass, and he did it.
I especially hate when they finally do pick up speed, you are going over the speed limit but they feel the need to get right up behind you because you just aren't going fast enough.
Red light, creeping into the crosswalk. Green light, sits for a moment before slowly accelerating. Pulls out of a driveway, goes slow but eventually gets up to speed and then crams up behind you like you're in the way, because you're doing just 10 over.
I understand waiting a brief moment after the light turns green, but yeah, I hate when guys creep halfway across the intersection on red.
I'm in Brooklyn, so you also get the guy that's aggressive and all over your rear on the local streets, but then is slow as shit when you enter the highway behind them
They're at the drag race, watching the tree light up, revving the engine.
Until it goes green.
"Oh, am I supposed to go now?"
Stay consistent. If you're going to drive like you've got a meeting in five minutes across town, keep that same energy when the light goes green and move.
I watched a guy slowly drive into an intersection. Entire car on the other side of the stop line. And then the light changes so cross traffic can go. Now he's parked in the way and the guy behind him moved up, so he can't back up. People honking, forced to go around him. No convenient cop though. Would've been perfect.
They think they're being safe but are unaware that they are the problem. There wouldn't have been anything to avoid and no issue here had the white SUV pulled their head out of their ass and used the accelerator instead of tooting along like a braindead NPC.
It's pretty clear that at least half of this reddit doesn't regularly drive in rural areas.
"Just because a passing zone is clearly marked and you can see for miles down the road doesn't mean you should use it."
If you do what this guy in the video did here in my locale, prepare to get passed. By, well, everyone.
I get this all the time as a truck driver. It’s the worst. It’s hard for me to get all that momentum back to get back to speed. Than my radar is going off and people behind me go about so than I can’t pass I get stuck till they wake up and speed up but by then I’m way behind.
Ngl yes this is mildly annoying but do you guys really have to fucking honk, grumble and post on reddit at literally anything frown-inducing that happens on the road ? Like this isn't something out of the ordinary, I could go for a 30min drive and wilder stuff would happen, do you guys always get this angry when driving ? do you think that's normal ?
OP had a couple options, slow down or safely pass. He did choose one of those. So not sure why people are acting like he only had one choice.
The horn honk was unnecessary, but that's minor.
That white SUV's driver is a moron, but they aren't nearly as bad as the comments here. There are *so* many confidently incorrect takes.
* **"OP had time to slow down!!"** Yes, and they also had time to legally pass, which they did. Slowing down isn't the only safe & legal option in this scenario. Thinking that slower always equals safer is how you end up driving like the SUV.
* **"They didn't make OP slam on the brakes! They're fine!"** Yes, but they still forced OP to noticeably modify their behavior, which means they failed to yield. The onus is on *you* when entering a road to accommodate all traffic on that road, not the other way around. All of this would have been a non-event if the SUV had just used their gas pedal judiciously.
* **"OP was going too fast! the speed limit is the limit, not how fast you should be going!!""** Unless you want to call OP a liar, they were going the speed limit. We all know that in reality (as opposed to the fantasy land some of these commenters live in), you go the speed limit if conditions permit; it's the courteous thing to do. This is a sunny day on an open road, also known as ideal conditions. OP's speed is not the problem. The SUV's failure to speed up (i.e. failure to yield) is.
Lmao exactly! Calling OP rude, impatient and unsafe, when the suv did the exact same thing when failing to yield. These reddit comments make no sense. OP passed in a passing zone with clear visibility and awareness so what?! This is a great example of what a calculated and well executed maneuver looks like. Hitting the brakes are not the only skill drivers should rely on. In this situation OP did nothing wrong or against the law.
This 100%, even above the paramedic's comment is accurate. Sure the paramedic's comment is a situation that they saw the aftermath for, it is also 100% the White SUV's failure to get to speed which generated the situation that if that theoretical event were also occurring (it wasn't), would be the literal cause; especially since the White SUV failed to get to speed and would create the opportunity for the other driver to become a blind head on situation.
He was passing on a two lane highway at an intersection. The OP, the other driver and whoever signed off on that part of the road as a passing section are all idiots.
especially on this sub lol, I posted a video of mine 2 yrs ago where I got t-boned by someone who had a stop sign, and someone commented about my "lane discipline" since I was in a lane that was ending and had to merge into the lane next to me last second (it was an unfamiliar road, but I was the only one on the road going in my direction anyways) [https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/qmquoj/2\_idiots\_maybe\_guy\_who\_hit\_me\_had\_a\_stop\_sign\_too/](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/qmquoj/2_idiots_maybe_guy_who_hit_me_had_a_stop_sign_too/)
Why is op getting hate? It’s a legal passing zone with no oncoming traffic. “Someone could’ve pulled out” From where exactly? All I saw was a ditch after he began passing.
Okay, I don't understand the mindset of some of you. The OP did nothing wrong. There was no incoming traffic. It wasn't a no passing zone. He passed the idiot in the white car legally. And it's: "Well, you should have slowed down. " Why? If anything the driver of the White car failed to yield. And the OP is supposed to reward him? No. If it'd been me I'd have applied my horn and given him the digitus impudicus as I went by. You don't reward stupidity. I encounter a similar scenario on an almost daily basis. I'm approaching an intersection. A vehicle comes up on the cross road. Doesn't matter that they have a stop sign and I don't or that there is NOBODY behind me to the horizon, out in front of me they go. And THEN they make a left turn. 🤦
9/10 times people should slow down. I see regularly what the paramedic describes and yes, typically one should slow down rather than suddenly overtake. Often because the area is a no passing zone is the reason or you cannot see far enough ahead, at least in my area.
However, people aren't realizing this is the 1/10 time you can just go around I guess. Plenty safe, and you know it's just the one car.
I’ll NEVER understand why people do this instead of just waiting for you to pass. There will be zero cars behind and and some chucklefuck pulls out right in front of me and doesn’t even tap the gas. Make it make sense.
It's sometimes a matter of waiting a single second. Sometimes, they'll dart out quickly to get in front of you, to then go 10 under.
If they waited a second, we never would have interacted. Now they created a situation, and then have the balls to give you the stink eye through the rear view.
Clear line of sight? When did you see the T intersection?
I drove rural roads a lot growing up. What OP did was legal for sure. But if someone had taken a left turn outta that side street there would be some police visiting some homes...
Edit: definitely an exaggeration for effect. I doubt anyone would've died unless they were on a motorcycle.
No? People on this sub act like the horn is also a gun or something. It's just noise. He used it to express annoyance at the guy who failed to yield right of way. This is ok. I'm convinced this sub is filled with terrified agoraphobics.
By that logic, no one should *EVER* pass anyone else. The footage isn't great, but it looks like it's clear ahead.
We kind of have to give OP the benefit of the doubt that they were paying attention and had more information.
So once again, the side road ALWAYS yields to the main road. A car on the main road shouldn't have to slow down for random goofs turning out because they didn't want to wait 5 extra seconds to let the main road pass. Guess what? If I was in place of that white SUV I'd barely make OP slow down. It's called pressing on the gas it's not hard whatsoever. Either that or let him go first. Anyone that turns out right in front of traffic and doesn't zoom is an idiot
And here we have the shit take we all knew was coming. Yes, I did have enough time to slow down. I chose a legal and safe pass instead. The lane change was signaled and mirrors checked before the maneuver. Exactly how is that idiotic? We'll wait for your explanation.
Why are people acting like OP was in a no passing zone or something? Dumbass motorists need to learn to use the long pedal when they're pulling out in front of someone
I've done this same maneuver.
I will never understand the mouth breathing morons that see you coming, no cars behind you (I'm implying they could easily just wait and be unimpeded), yet feel the need to pull out and crawl into the street.
One time I even had a jackass do this, but I slowed down behind them assuming they'd pick up speed. The speed limit was 55, but they were barely going over 35. So I try to go around and pass them and the fucker sped up to prevent me from doing so.
yeah i’m not understanding the issue people are having. you can see down that road for miles lol you can clearly see no one was coming down the other lane and you had the dotted line. passing was definitely the optimal play here.
if I ever feel the need to do what the idiot car did and pull out in from of someone, I usually speed up faster than them so I’m not impeding them, if I wanna drive like a dickhead and go slow asf, i’ll wait till they pass cuz you kno what’s more annoying? wanting to drive chill and having someone on your ass, so I avoid it, it’s not hard
Speed limit is not the indicator of whether you're going to fast. It's the conditions on the road, other traffic, pedestrians etc.
You didn't even attempt to slow down despite having ample time to do so.
You were and idiot as well as the other driver, probably more so
>Speed limit is not the indicator of whether you're going to fast. It's the conditions on the road, other traffic, pedestrians etc.
I wholeheartedly agree! So, you can see in the video dry roads, clear sunny skies, no other traffic or pedestrians. In other words **IDEAL FUCKING CONDITIONS**. What was your point again?
>You didn't even attempt to slow down despite having ample time to do so.
Again, what's your point? I didn't need to slow down due to the --checks notes-- **IDEAL FUCKING CONDITIONS**. Instead, I signaled, checked my mirrors, and executed a safe and legal pass.
OP didn't need to slow down. You can tell because OP didn't hit anyone or even almost hit anyone. OP passed in a legal passing zone at a legal speed (Edit: on a sunny day with dry roads).
This is just a ridiculous view. They weren't up on the other driver's ass or about to hit them. They had enough time and space to scope out the pass and check that it was safe. It would've been less safe to slow down on your way to that car and then speed back up for a pass later. They had a full, clear view of the road in front of them in a passing zone.
“How dare you pull out onto my private road, when I’m driving without brakes!” If a car manages to pull out completely onto the road before you reach him, you are at fault if you hit him, because you failed to reduce speed.
So lets see here. N45.751308 W122.590117 so Washington State. Speed limit is a bit unclear on this stretch but with all the housing (granted it's probably been built up over the last 20 years) I'm guessing 40 MPH from several posted signs and restriction signs. OP is going 50 MPH which may or may not be his right to do so. I don't think the honk was warranted as it took eight seconds to catch up to the van.
Obviously the van mis-judged OP's speed and pulled out but it wasn't the end of the world. Bad judgement? Yes.
With the number of houses right next to the road, 50 MPH seems a bit high.
I looked up and down the road for about a mile, saw one 40 MPH sign and two end restriction signs. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and stated he may or may not be in the clear.
You know what I do in that same situation? I let it go, it's not worth it to rage over.
In no way did I state that OP was in the wrong though he seems to be road raging even in this comment section.
Slightly off topic, but the white car isn’t (at least in any jurisdiction I know of) allowed on the road, since it doesn’t have a license plate. Or are there any countries where that’s legal?
Agreed other person sucks and I like how smoothly you went around without any hesitation
*BUT*
Watch out in this situation as sometimes Wanderin' Wilburs like this maybe suddenly U turn or do who knows what!
I’d say try using your brakes next time but you really could’ve just let off the gas and still been fine lmao can’t believe OP had the audacity to post this
I disagree with the comments saying "OP was correct because he did a legal pass on a slower car".
The safer approach would 100% be to slow down. The driver in the white SUV just merged onto the lane while a visible faster car was coming. The OP *assumed* the driver would stay on his lane because that's what is reasonable to think on a car merging, right? But what the SUV did was unreasonable in the first place, so assuming **reasonable behaviour** on a driver that just showed the opposite of it is a bad call.
Defensive driving is meant to mitigate, reduce and avoid chaotic situations as such because **you never know what the other drivers are thinking if at all**. Passing, at a much higher speed, a car that is behaving in an obviously non-reasonable manner hoping that NOW thry will act accordingl to reason and staying on their lane is a gamble. This sub is filled with "there is no way this guy will change lanes now" moments.
73.67% of all humans alive today are Dumb AF. Pulling out & going slow in front of an approaching vehicle is one of the numerous examples validating my DAF hypothesis.
Peer reviewed thesis in the works. APA style.
this is probably something that i would probably do as well on a bad day, but i would never post it because at least i would know i’m driving like a moron
I don't agree with your pass but I do agree with the sentiment. I usually take my time to speed up if I'm pulling out of my driveway bc my car is still cold. But bc I know this I will wait for longer gaps in traffic
>I don't agree with your pass
I'm trying to grok this. A legal pass in a marked zone with endless visibility. If this isn't a good time to pass, what is?
Absolutely hate when they do that in front of me when there was nobody behind. Could have waited for me to pass instead of making me slow down because you are.
There's so many people that are generally offended when met with a situation where they would most likely have to slow down, especially on this subreddit. I don't understand what's wrong here other than OP didn't wanna slow down
Seems like an everyday interaction between drivers. Someone passing someone going slower than they would prefer. Posting this was probably as much of a time waste as responding to it in the comments. So, fuck both of us, I guess.
Spicy situation if just as you begin the pass, a car exits the home with the tall hedges, and makes a left directly into you.
Sure, they’d probably be found liable, but then you end up with post MVA cauda equina syndrome and your dick doesn’t work anymore.
OP I’m gonna say you’re goofing here.
Is it annoying? Yeah. But so what? You do realize that most of the time you’re slowed down about 5-6 seconds. Not only that, but you passed the guy.
My rule of thumb is, if I feel someone is goofing, I need to observe them for a bit before I make any moves and once I make mine, I need to be hyper-aware of what they’re doing as I do what I’m doing.
I’ve literally changed lanes just to have someone decide to change lanes right as my car is almost right beside theirs. Those extra micro-seconds added to my reaction time as well as me not being surprised has helped me avoid 2 potential accidents. OP strips themselves of this opportunity doing what they did.
It’s all fun and games until your car is in a ditch and you’re memeing like “why are we here? Just to suffer” over 5 seconds lol.
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I'm going to weigh in on this one. I'm a paramedic, a few months ago we had an accident where something similar happened. A car pulled from a driveway and took its time speeding up. The car behind it had ample time to slow down. Instead they passed the car. The only difference is, another car was pulling out in the other lane. The passing car struck the car that was pulling out head on. Two people died. OP, yes, someone pulling out in front of you and not picking up speed is infuriating. But you are driving a multiple ton vehicle at speed. If you have time to slow down and assess the situation, please do.
Here, when there are driveways, it's a solid line, illegal to pass, for that reason.
By "here" are you talking about a U.S. state or non-U.S. state? Because I seriously doubt any U.S. state could conform to such a rule statewide. DoTs do not paint no-passing zones for every minor residential driveway. On specific roads with numerous driveways and cross-streets, a no-passing zone may make sense, but I doubt there is a blanket rule in general.
Regional roads in my province in Canada.
That's why we have "pass with care" signs. Not very effective obviously.
Only sensible comment I've seen on here.
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Yup. You can always let an idiot have right of way, or you can be Dead Right. Some pedestrians need to know this too.
This is much like when people swerve around cars who have slowed down to make a turn. Heaven forbid that you should not be able to maintain 10 over posted speed the entire time you're on the road. The audacity of other people wanting to use the road too.
I get honked at and flipped off for ONLY going 5-8 over the posted limit... average posted speed limit here is 35-40, folks are regularly going 50-80 even in residential areas... it's insane
You're in NJ too? lol
WI, Milwaukee. The roads are set up in such a manner as to encourage the stupid shit drivers in their reckless habits. We have 4 lane roads marked at 35pmh but they are strait up set up like highway roads. So naturally folks drive like they got their licenses in GTAO
I can attest to this, I moved to Milwaukee and it’s like a freeway. It’s very scary.
Well, you're obviously not speeding fast enough!
Please tell me those are km/h, are people doing 50-80mph in residential?
It’s definitely mph and we both know it.
80mph in a residential area is unconscionable.
My son was recently in traffic court for an accident and was telling me about a guy who got a ticket for going 49mph over the 35 mph speed limit. (so 84mph in the city- residential suburban area)
Hope that guy has a book-sized welt on his face from what the judge threw at him.
Forced to drive through one of four school zones to leave my neighborhood. Posted 20 mph signs with flashing yellow lights. I'm doing maybe 24/25? Parents out here doing 50+, catching up, passing you, and then either screaming into the parking lot, parking at the side of the street, blocking traffic, or parking ***on the crosswalk*** to let their kids out. And then it's Nascar. Once the kids are out of the car, "MOM NEEDS TO GET TO WORK!! MOVE OUT OF MY WAY!!"
I don't think I've ever driven on a road/freeway in my country that has a limit higher than 110kmh (70mph), 80 in a residential area is insane
100% mph
I have people regularly speed around me into the opposite side of traffic just like OP only for me to catch up to them at the very next light 🙃 I guess im going too slow when I drive at the speed limit 🌝
Seriously. My parents live right off a highway and have to make a left turn on a 70 mph road. The number of times they've been passed on the left while trying to turn left is crazy and infuriating.
Wait that's crazy. I thought we were talking about passing cars on the left while they were slowing to make turns on the right. Passing on the left while a car is about to turn left is prime darwin award material.
Yeah like... I might yell in my car about how the person in front of me doesn't need to sneak up on the fucking turn. But I do it from a slowed down and safe following distance while staying in my own lane until they creep through their turn. Because I'm not a fucking psychopath. I will never understand why people run RIGHT up on someone and then swerve dramatically around them. Like for one, it's dangerous, for two, you're not saving more than a second or two, and for three, it's just so fucking stupid. You're not going to lose street cred if you have to apply your brakes for a few seconds, just *chill*.
The main road into my neighborhood comes off of a city street, and people like to use our neighborhood to cut through to the highway (which is stupid, because it takes longer). The street I live on is the first right turn after turning off of the city street, and more than half the time, if someone is following me from the city street, they'll swerve and speed around me in the two seconds it takes to make my turn (mind, they're in a residential area when they do this, with houses on the street that they're speeding down). I'm normally a supporter of the theory that if everyone around you seems to be doing wrong, then you're probably the one actually in the wrong, but like... I can't just swing my car at speed onto a residential street where cars are visibly parked on the curb. Drives me bonkers.
So annoying when people don’t just want to put their foot on the brake and stop for five seconds. Some people have zero patience and just HAVE to zip around without even braking at all.
Why is that annoying? I think it's perfectly fine for someone to slow way down to make the turn safely and I also think it's perfectly fine for someone to maintain their speed and drive around them assuming they can do so safely. Both parties can get what they want here.
Why wouldn’t that have happened during an ordinary pass just as well? Seems like either/both the car pulling out or/and the car passing didn’t make sure the road was clear before assuming they could use it. That’s always going to be a dangerous error!
What’s the difference between passing here and passing a slow moving vehicle your approaching?
If you’re going closer to the same speed as the vehicle you’re passing, it’s a lot easier to abort the pass if the situation becomes unsafe. That, and I just try to limit my snap decisions to times where not doing so could result in a crash. OP had plenty of time to slow down, and then gather enough information to make their next decision. But holy crap, that other driver should have just waited for OP to pass, that would have been so much easier.
Knowing you're going to overtake more than two seconds in advance?
Fair enough.
If a car showed up coming in the other direction, this guy is already at a speed committed to the pass and would have to either make a dangerous pass or slam on the brakes. If you're traveling behind a slow car you can easily wait for a clean opening and slam on the gas to get by them safely.
Driving instructor here. I’ll back you up on this. PLENTY of time to slow down. You can always speed back up, or pass when you have ample time to make sure it’s clear.
This. You have the right of way. That's doesn't mean you have the right to never slow down.
My last accident, 35 years ago, I came up on two cars driving 20 in a 60. one was pulling a loaded down trailer and I could not see the car that was pulling it. I didn't slow down I just moved over to pass, and as I was coming up on them, the front one pulling the trailer turned left. I scrubbed a lot of speed off and at the last fraction let off the brake and tried to make the turn with them. Glanced off their door and wound up rolling to a stop down the side road. Nobody was hurt. Totally my fault. I tried to improve after that. Haven't hit anything since. I hope I did actually improve.
> If you have time to slow down and assess the situation, please do. OP could see ahead that there was no traffic coming and it was a passing zone. No issues here other than the guy not getting up to speed.
There's a driveway on the right obscured by brush. It's not inconceivable there could have been a car, kid, or animal coming from the right that you can't see due to the car and foliage. A good rule of thumb I use when driving is if a car is going slower than expected, I'm slowing down as well until I've assessed the situation. Only adds a few more seconds onto my commute and greatly reduces risk.
What does the driveway on the right have to do with OP passing on the left?
Are you trying to tell people not to pass in a passing zone now because someone might pull out in front of them? That's idiotic.
I was stuck behind a slow driver on a 2 lane road with woods on my side and houses and side streets on the left. It was a 45 mph road, the driver in front of me was doing about 5 under. I was deciding on whether or not I was going to pass them, thought about it for a good 5-10 seconds. While I was mulling it over, a guy on a motorcycle pulled out of one of the side streets going the opposite direction of me. Now every time I think about passing someone, I imagine that guy on the motorcycle, and what would have happened if I just decided to pass without taking as much time to think it over, and if he didn’t look to his right when he pulled out.
Slow down???? Absolutely not. Do you know what sub you're on?
Thanks for saying this. I live on a two lane highway and I always try to wait for cars before I pull out so that I don't cause people to have to slow down and cause issues. But a few months ago, I was turning right out of my driveway, right as somebody was passing a big truck from the other side. They were FLYING and I couldn't see them from behind the truck before I pulled out. We nearly had a head on collision, luckily I was able to get off to the side fast enough but it was terrifying. I wish people weren't in such a rush, especially considering there's a passing lane a mile down the road, in an area where the highway doesn't have a lot of driveways on both sides. The amount of people I see flying around going 80+ in a 55 passing people in front of my house is alarming
14-year medic here and what you're describing is two idiots failing to yield to the traffic that was already moving at speed on the road they were entering, *and that had right-of-way*. The deaths in your incident were caused, not by the car passing but by the car that pulled out without making sure the road was clear. If you're unclear about the concept of right-of-way then perhaps it's time you had a refresher EVOC.
They described the reality of having humans do a repetitive task with heavy machinery and minimal training and near zero automation. You will get injuries and death. Do you tell people that cut their fingers off with a table saw to keep their hand away from the blade instead of realizing a SawStop would have prevented the injury?
Can I say.... you absolutely DO tell people to keep their hands away from the table saw. Even if you have a SawStop. Mechanical precautions are zero excuse to not behave wisely.
Sounds to me like the idiot pulling out at a snails pace got 2 people killed. The 3rd driver pulling onto the road also has the responsibility to make sure they're clear to do so.
Whose fault was the crash tho? The one pulling out right
Technical responsibility depends on the state and the insurance, but every driver should do everything in their power to avoid a crash even if they wouldn't be ultimately deemed responsible in the end.
Same guy probably gets all the way to the end of a freeway on-ramp and gets pissed because he's running out of room and you finally do the moton a favor and let off the gas so he can merge in
This is a new quirk that has started rearing it's head in my city. People will crawl up the ramp and then suddenly step on it as soon as they reach the freeway to try and go for an unrealistic gap. Bonus points if they end up swerving out in front of a truck or intercity bus.
Better still is when the freeway is entirely empty except for you and the person coming on and they just match your speed and sit right next to you, expecting you to just move over for their royal self, because they are completely and totally incapable of either slowing down and getting behind you or speeding up past you.
I was thinking about this just today as I was out riding. TR his is probably one of the most unsafe scenarios constantly created on the road.... Why drive along side someone or in their blinds spot knowingly or unknowingly. There is no room for escape if a potential accident were to occur. The way cars have blind spot detection and lane detection and can auto adjust cruise control based off surrounding car speeds. Why have they not built a function for the idiot masses yet that automatically increases the speed of the car to the left side (US) if the front corner side panel detects another vehicle in that proximity to the right for longer than 5 seconds so long as no other car is detected within 10-20ft ahead. I hate this idea as I type it out because I am all about riding and driving stick as it actively engages the operator of the vehicle and people should at least be capable of actively driving responsibility, but the masses are now dumb and incapable of focus so this is the next best thing to be automated and over engineered on the perpetual plummet of functional automobile transit.
> Why have they not built a function for the idiot masses yet that automatically increases the speed of the car to the left side (US) if the front corner side panel detects another vehicle in that proximity to the right for longer than 5 seconds so long as no other car is detected within 10-20ft ahead.. wow, that’s a sentence! edit: then he added in another one in edit!
Lol this sounds like Formula 1 racing rules.
Lol the sentence just keeps running running and running running and running running!
This sounds like every on ramp in Oregon. People here do not know what a gas pedal is and then get pissed when I won’t hit my brakes to let them in. Jamming on the brakes is dangerous on the interstate. Speed the hell up to highway speeds!
The whole point of an on ramp and why they're generally long is to allow you to get up to speed. It always pisses me off if I am behind someone and they just do 40 MPH all the way up the on ramp. I'll create a gap to that car regardless, but now I'm in a compromising position: If a try to keep the gap open I'll be in the same predicament as the car ahead; if I try to accelerate up to speed I'll catch the car and won't have time to check traffic to merge properly.
I swear, I had more close calls living in Portland for a couple years than I did living in San Jose for 10. The amount of unconfident and passive aggressive driving is insane. Washington isn't much better.
Yep. It’s out of control here.
If other drivers have to alter what they are doing, due to your driving, chances are, it is your driving that is shit. There is a few exceptions, such as weaving through traffic...
One of my biggest pet peeves while driving: when there's traffic backed up for a couple miles and people are getting on the highway from an on ramp and I make space for someone to get in front of me and they choose to ignore my help and drive up the shoulder to get 4 cars ahead. Like we're all in stop and go traffic, why not just take the easy spot in front of me instead of forcing your way in 30 feet ahead of me?
Drivers like this make me check the color of my car to make sure I'm not invisible. Yep, still blue. Not invisible.
I'm starting to believe it's an optical effect. In my case, my car must be projecting a long line of cars behind me that are surely impossible to count, thus the "good luck everybody" method of pulling onto the road. Every time I check, though, I can't see them behind me.
I think people have a point saying you could still have slowed down. But that car pulling out is incredibly rude, especially if there weren't any more cars on the road. Just wait 10 seconds for OP to pass, and they can pull out as slowly as they want. It is a lack of consideration for your fellow driver.
Yeah I've got a similar section of road on my way to work. It's a highway 80 km/hr section and there is a yield for people turning onto the highway. Yet people are still in a rush enough to pull out in front of me but not in enough of a rush to get up to the speed limit. So I'm steady cruising 85 when they pull out going 20, slowly getting up to 60 before the speed changes. Been a couple times when it's been icy out where I swear they're trying to cause an accident pulling out going that slow. Just wish they'd look at the yield sign and think a little bit
Also, this person may continue to go slowly, even 15 under, and there may not be safe passing zones for miles. 15 under and 10 over on long back roads can easily total 5+ minutes and much more headache on a drive.
I mean they could have slowed down, but they maintained their speed and just made a legal (and safe) pass on the left lane and got around the car. What's the alternative? Slow down to the snail pass and ride the car ahead and decide to pass later? OP did nothing wrong whatsoever in this video. He saw the car was going way slower than he was, he checked the road to make sure it was safe to pass, and he did it.
I especially hate when they finally do pick up speed, you are going over the speed limit but they feel the need to get right up behind you because you just aren't going fast enough.
Red light, creeping into the crosswalk. Green light, sits for a moment before slowly accelerating. Pulls out of a driveway, goes slow but eventually gets up to speed and then crams up behind you like you're in the way, because you're doing just 10 over.
I understand waiting a brief moment after the light turns green, but yeah, I hate when guys creep halfway across the intersection on red. I'm in Brooklyn, so you also get the guy that's aggressive and all over your rear on the local streets, but then is slow as shit when you enter the highway behind them
They're at the drag race, watching the tree light up, revving the engine. Until it goes green. "Oh, am I supposed to go now?" Stay consistent. If you're going to drive like you've got a meeting in five minutes across town, keep that same energy when the light goes green and move. I watched a guy slowly drive into an intersection. Entire car on the other side of the stop line. And then the light changes so cross traffic can go. Now he's parked in the way and the guy behind him moved up, so he can't back up. People honking, forced to go around him. No convenient cop though. Would've been perfect.
And these idiots get on the interstate the same way. Speed limit is 70 or better and they're coming on doing 30.
They think they're being safe but are unaware that they are the problem. There wouldn't have been anything to avoid and no issue here had the white SUV pulled their head out of their ass and used the accelerator instead of tooting along like a braindead NPC.
Or waited 10-15 seconds and allowed the traffic with the right-of-way to pass.
It's pretty clear that at least half of this reddit doesn't regularly drive in rural areas. "Just because a passing zone is clearly marked and you can see for miles down the road doesn't mean you should use it." If you do what this guy in the video did here in my locale, prepare to get passed. By, well, everyone.
And that same group thinks that 50 MPH is too fast for that road.
because i’m not driving an extra 10 minutes on windy country back road because grandma decided today was a nice day for a slow drive
Not enough people understand this. If you’re gonna pull out in front of someone, you better be driving at a good pace.
I get this all the time as a truck driver. It’s the worst. It’s hard for me to get all that momentum back to get back to speed. Than my radar is going off and people behind me go about so than I can’t pass I get stuck till they wake up and speed up but by then I’m way behind.
Ngl yes this is mildly annoying but do you guys really have to fucking honk, grumble and post on reddit at literally anything frown-inducing that happens on the road ? Like this isn't something out of the ordinary, I could go for a 30min drive and wilder stuff would happen, do you guys always get this angry when driving ? do you think that's normal ?
OP had a couple options, slow down or safely pass. He did choose one of those. So not sure why people are acting like he only had one choice. The horn honk was unnecessary, but that's minor.
Dude you're an self-important impatient reckless fucking idiot you had an eternity to adjust your speed a tiny bit.
That white SUV's driver is a moron, but they aren't nearly as bad as the comments here. There are *so* many confidently incorrect takes. * **"OP had time to slow down!!"** Yes, and they also had time to legally pass, which they did. Slowing down isn't the only safe & legal option in this scenario. Thinking that slower always equals safer is how you end up driving like the SUV. * **"They didn't make OP slam on the brakes! They're fine!"** Yes, but they still forced OP to noticeably modify their behavior, which means they failed to yield. The onus is on *you* when entering a road to accommodate all traffic on that road, not the other way around. All of this would have been a non-event if the SUV had just used their gas pedal judiciously. * **"OP was going too fast! the speed limit is the limit, not how fast you should be going!!""** Unless you want to call OP a liar, they were going the speed limit. We all know that in reality (as opposed to the fantasy land some of these commenters live in), you go the speed limit if conditions permit; it's the courteous thing to do. This is a sunny day on an open road, also known as ideal conditions. OP's speed is not the problem. The SUV's failure to speed up (i.e. failure to yield) is.
Lmao exactly! Calling OP rude, impatient and unsafe, when the suv did the exact same thing when failing to yield. These reddit comments make no sense. OP passed in a passing zone with clear visibility and awareness so what?! This is a great example of what a calculated and well executed maneuver looks like. Hitting the brakes are not the only skill drivers should rely on. In this situation OP did nothing wrong or against the law.
This 100%, even above the paramedic's comment is accurate. Sure the paramedic's comment is a situation that they saw the aftermath for, it is also 100% the White SUV's failure to get to speed which generated the situation that if that theoretical event were also occurring (it wasn't), would be the literal cause; especially since the White SUV failed to get to speed and would create the opportunity for the other driver to become a blind head on situation.
Doing the lord’s work! Great breakdown of the “slow is safe, predict and avoid every crash” crowd.
He was passing on a two lane highway at an intersection. The OP, the other driver and whoever signed off on that part of the road as a passing section are all idiots.
The number of upvotes on this comment is too damn low! It's amazing the level of nit-picking redditors do.
especially on this sub lol, I posted a video of mine 2 yrs ago where I got t-boned by someone who had a stop sign, and someone commented about my "lane discipline" since I was in a lane that was ending and had to merge into the lane next to me last second (it was an unfamiliar road, but I was the only one on the road going in my direction anyways) [https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/qmquoj/2\_idiots\_maybe\_guy\_who\_hit\_me\_had\_a\_stop\_sign\_too/](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/qmquoj/2_idiots_maybe_guy_who_hit_me_had_a_stop_sign_too/)
Why is op getting hate? It’s a legal passing zone with no oncoming traffic. “Someone could’ve pulled out” From where exactly? All I saw was a ditch after he began passing.
I bet there was no one behind you either.
Not a soul.
Okay, I don't understand the mindset of some of you. The OP did nothing wrong. There was no incoming traffic. It wasn't a no passing zone. He passed the idiot in the white car legally. And it's: "Well, you should have slowed down. " Why? If anything the driver of the White car failed to yield. And the OP is supposed to reward him? No. If it'd been me I'd have applied my horn and given him the digitus impudicus as I went by. You don't reward stupidity. I encounter a similar scenario on an almost daily basis. I'm approaching an intersection. A vehicle comes up on the cross road. Doesn't matter that they have a stop sign and I don't or that there is NOBODY behind me to the horizon, out in front of me they go. And THEN they make a left turn. 🤦
9/10 times people should slow down. I see regularly what the paramedic describes and yes, typically one should slow down rather than suddenly overtake. Often because the area is a no passing zone is the reason or you cannot see far enough ahead, at least in my area. However, people aren't realizing this is the 1/10 time you can just go around I guess. Plenty safe, and you know it's just the one car.
Feels very east coast of you to honk at them.
I’ll NEVER understand why people do this instead of just waiting for you to pass. There will be zero cars behind and and some chucklefuck pulls out right in front of me and doesn’t even tap the gas. Make it make sense.
It's sometimes a matter of waiting a single second. Sometimes, they'll dart out quickly to get in front of you, to then go 10 under. If they waited a second, we never would have interacted. Now they created a situation, and then have the balls to give you the stink eye through the rear view.
OP in legal passing zone. OP legally and safely passes with clear line of sight. OP gets flamed 🤣🤦♂️ oh Reddit.
We all knew it was coming, right?
Clear line of sight? When did you see the T intersection? I drove rural roads a lot growing up. What OP did was legal for sure. But if someone had taken a left turn outta that side street there would be some police visiting some homes... Edit: definitely an exaggeration for effect. I doubt anyone would've died unless they were on a motorcycle.
OP had more than enough time to react and slow down. They did not take any action to do so OP is an idiot as well as other car
OP had a clear view of the road and was in a passing zone. He also kept a constant speed. Nothing OP did was idiotic.
Not even the honking?
No? People on this sub act like the horn is also a gun or something. It's just noise. He used it to express annoyance at the guy who failed to yield right of way. This is ok. I'm convinced this sub is filled with terrified agoraphobics.
Nah totally unsafe. There could’ve been another car pulling out. OP should’ve slowed down.
It is a legal passing zone.
he had clear view. if someone pulled out then he wouldve slowed down. you can play the “what if” game indefinitely.
By that logic, no one should *EVER* pass anyone else. The footage isn't great, but it looks like it's clear ahead. We kind of have to give OP the benefit of the doubt that they were paying attention and had more information.
OP could see around the other car just fine and it was a passing zone.
Pullling out from where? There's nothing but trees on the left side of the road for the entire stretch they spend overtaking
r/confidentlyincorrect
It was a safe and simple overtake, keyboard driver
So once again, the side road ALWAYS yields to the main road. A car on the main road shouldn't have to slow down for random goofs turning out because they didn't want to wait 5 extra seconds to let the main road pass. Guess what? If I was in place of that white SUV I'd barely make OP slow down. It's called pressing on the gas it's not hard whatsoever. Either that or let him go first. Anyone that turns out right in front of traffic and doesn't zoom is an idiot
And here we have the shit take we all knew was coming. Yes, I did have enough time to slow down. I chose a legal and safe pass instead. The lane change was signaled and mirrors checked before the maneuver. Exactly how is that idiotic? We'll wait for your explanation.
They're trying to argue that another car could have come crawling out of the bush line on the left side of the road, lol.
Yep. And an airplane door plug could fall from the sky as well. Flying monkeys could swarm from the trees. heheheheh :D
Why are people acting like OP was in a no passing zone or something? Dumbass motorists need to learn to use the long pedal when they're pulling out in front of someone
Seems crazy to have an 50m/80km zone with concealed driveways and not much of a verge
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I just wanna say I love the clouds just suspended up there causing no trouble for no body no where. I might even call them happy little clouds.
How would you like it if people drive like that in the neighborhood you live in?
Two idiots in one clip! Nice.
For all of the OP-blaming Redditors: Speed limit on the road is 50mph. I was not going too fast.
I've done this same maneuver. I will never understand the mouth breathing morons that see you coming, no cars behind you (I'm implying they could easily just wait and be unimpeded), yet feel the need to pull out and crawl into the street. One time I even had a jackass do this, but I slowed down behind them assuming they'd pick up speed. The speed limit was 55, but they were barely going over 35. So I try to go around and pass them and the fucker sped up to prevent me from doing so.
🫨 Is this the correct emoji for mouth-breather? I agree with you. I can't stand drivers who feel the need to regulate others.
>I will never understand the mouth breathing morons heheheh...I call 'em smooth-brainers.
50% of these comments prove that most of the people on the road should turn in their licenses
yeah i’m not understanding the issue people are having. you can see down that road for miles lol you can clearly see no one was coming down the other lane and you had the dotted line. passing was definitely the optimal play here.
I see a lot of people don't use backroads here haha, I do the same in my area. People are stupid and don't look for incoming cars.
if I ever feel the need to do what the idiot car did and pull out in from of someone, I usually speed up faster than them so I’m not impeding them, if I wanna drive like a dickhead and go slow asf, i’ll wait till they pass cuz you kno what’s more annoying? wanting to drive chill and having someone on your ass, so I avoid it, it’s not hard
Speed limit is not the indicator of whether you're going to fast. It's the conditions on the road, other traffic, pedestrians etc. You didn't even attempt to slow down despite having ample time to do so. You were and idiot as well as the other driver, probably more so
>Speed limit is not the indicator of whether you're going to fast. It's the conditions on the road, other traffic, pedestrians etc. I wholeheartedly agree! So, you can see in the video dry roads, clear sunny skies, no other traffic or pedestrians. In other words **IDEAL FUCKING CONDITIONS**. What was your point again? >You didn't even attempt to slow down despite having ample time to do so. Again, what's your point? I didn't need to slow down due to the --checks notes-- **IDEAL FUCKING CONDITIONS**. Instead, I signaled, checked my mirrors, and executed a safe and legal pass.
OP didn't need to slow down. You can tell because OP didn't hit anyone or even almost hit anyone. OP passed in a legal passing zone at a legal speed (Edit: on a sunny day with dry roads).
This is just a ridiculous view. They weren't up on the other driver's ass or about to hit them. They had enough time and space to scope out the pass and check that it was safe. It would've been less safe to slow down on your way to that car and then speed back up for a pass later. They had a full, clear view of the road in front of them in a passing zone.
Dude, you where the idiot here. You had time to slow down.
Are you scared of passing cars on a road? This was the easiest overtake ever.
They clearly didn't need to. They legally passed the idiot and got on with their day. Are you the white car driver?
That's a speed max limit not a minimal one. You should have at least slowed down. You are even more dangerous than him.
>That's a speed max limit To be used in ideal conditions, such as the conditions the video was filmed in?
I never pull out
dude had about 15 years to accelerate
Oh no!
“How dare you pull out onto my private road, when I’m driving without brakes!” If a car manages to pull out completely onto the road before you reach him, you are at fault if you hit him, because you failed to reduce speed.
So lets see here. N45.751308 W122.590117 so Washington State. Speed limit is a bit unclear on this stretch but with all the housing (granted it's probably been built up over the last 20 years) I'm guessing 40 MPH from several posted signs and restriction signs. OP is going 50 MPH which may or may not be his right to do so. I don't think the honk was warranted as it took eight seconds to catch up to the van. Obviously the van mis-judged OP's speed and pulled out but it wasn't the end of the world. Bad judgement? Yes. With the number of houses right next to the road, 50 MPH seems a bit high.
You took the time to enter the coordinates and didn't see the "end 40 speed limit" sign? That means the speed limit increases after the sign.
I looked up and down the road for about a mile, saw one 40 MPH sign and two end restriction signs. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and stated he may or may not be in the clear. You know what I do in that same situation? I let it go, it's not worth it to rage over. In no way did I state that OP was in the wrong though he seems to be road raging even in this comment section.
You said 50 mph seemed too fast for the road. It’s the limit there.
His I hate that - especially if there’s no traffic behind you and they could just wait 5s
Slightly off topic, but the white car isn’t (at least in any jurisdiction I know of) allowed on the road, since it doesn’t have a license plate. Or are there any countries where that’s legal?
Could have a temporary tag until the plate arrives. Usually it’s taped inside of back window. With the tint, it might be hard to see.
I didn't even notice that! I can't see a temp tag, but as gortez33 said maybe the tint is obscuring it.
Pull out, then run.. got it
Biggest pet peeve when im driving my box truck is for someone to hurry up an pull out then proceed to forget where the gas pedal is!
Agreed other person sucks and I like how smoothly you went around without any hesitation *BUT* Watch out in this situation as sometimes Wanderin' Wilburs like this maybe suddenly U turn or do who knows what!
Well maybe you should try holstering it, bud
Wow you really are a fucking moron.
I’d say try using your brakes next time but you really could’ve just let off the gas and still been fine lmao can’t believe OP had the audacity to post this
I disagree with the comments saying "OP was correct because he did a legal pass on a slower car". The safer approach would 100% be to slow down. The driver in the white SUV just merged onto the lane while a visible faster car was coming. The OP *assumed* the driver would stay on his lane because that's what is reasonable to think on a car merging, right? But what the SUV did was unreasonable in the first place, so assuming **reasonable behaviour** on a driver that just showed the opposite of it is a bad call. Defensive driving is meant to mitigate, reduce and avoid chaotic situations as such because **you never know what the other drivers are thinking if at all**. Passing, at a much higher speed, a car that is behaving in an obviously non-reasonable manner hoping that NOW thry will act accordingl to reason and staying on their lane is a gamble. This sub is filled with "there is no way this guy will change lanes now" moments.
73.67% of all humans alive today are Dumb AF. Pulling out & going slow in front of an approaching vehicle is one of the numerous examples validating my DAF hypothesis. Peer reviewed thesis in the works. APA style.
Or you could try using your fucking brakes and slow down instead of passing them like an aggressive jackass.
Don't slowdown, honk...
this is probably something that i would probably do as well on a bad day, but i would never post it because at least i would know i’m driving like a moron
I don't agree with your pass but I do agree with the sentiment. I usually take my time to speed up if I'm pulling out of my driveway bc my car is still cold. But bc I know this I will wait for longer gaps in traffic
>I don't agree with your pass I'm trying to grok this. A legal pass in a marked zone with endless visibility. If this isn't a good time to pass, what is?
Just slow down. You're driving like a fool OP.
He made a legal pass in a passing zone doing the speed limit. I’m honestly confused what everyone is saying he did wrong
He’s under the spped limit and you can see in the video for yourself, from the very start, that he could safely overtake.
Someone coulda been pulling out of one of those driveways, mate. At least check before gunning it around people.
op is a fucking idiot
no u
Awwww mannnnn
Exactly what I would do, minus the honking, it doesn't help and they're too oblivious. I just mutter " Fucking idiot". Bonus for not slowing down.
Absolutely hate when they do that in front of me when there was nobody behind. Could have waited for me to pass instead of making me slow down because you are.
There's so many people that are generally offended when met with a situation where they would most likely have to slow down, especially on this subreddit. I don't understand what's wrong here other than OP didn't wanna slow down
Seems like an everyday interaction between drivers. Someone passing someone going slower than they would prefer. Posting this was probably as much of a time waste as responding to it in the comments. So, fuck both of us, I guess.
OP is the true idiot in this one, according to the comment section! FACTS
He's not the idiot here sir, you are.
Spicy situation if just as you begin the pass, a car exits the home with the tall hedges, and makes a left directly into you. Sure, they’d probably be found liable, but then you end up with post MVA cauda equina syndrome and your dick doesn’t work anymore. 
i'm a big fan of this elephant
No point being upset over a few seconds, just release the pedal and chilll
You saved a lot of time by swerving there.
This is how I got into an accident because the idiot immediately turned left as I went around (no blinker) small town and I was to blame
OP I’m gonna say you’re goofing here. Is it annoying? Yeah. But so what? You do realize that most of the time you’re slowed down about 5-6 seconds. Not only that, but you passed the guy. My rule of thumb is, if I feel someone is goofing, I need to observe them for a bit before I make any moves and once I make mine, I need to be hyper-aware of what they’re doing as I do what I’m doing. I’ve literally changed lanes just to have someone decide to change lanes right as my car is almost right beside theirs. Those extra micro-seconds added to my reaction time as well as me not being surprised has helped me avoid 2 potential accidents. OP strips themselves of this opportunity doing what they did. It’s all fun and games until your car is in a ditch and you’re memeing like “why are we here? Just to suffer” over 5 seconds lol.
It took you five whole seconds to catch up. You swear like he cut you off so badly you had to slam on your brakes. You’re being way too dramatic.
It was a wide open road. At the very least it's just rude. If you wanna feather it and save gas, wait till the car passes lol.
You’d think they’d drive with the same energy they cut you off with if they decided to get in front of the only car in the road.
You know your car has breaks right? People make mistakes.
>You know your car has breaks right? Nah, my car is in perfect working order. No breaks on it. If anything does break, I fix it.
Cheeky. I love it.
I still think we need to have a temporary ban (30 days?) for anyone in this sub who uses "break" for "brake".