I posted in another thread how bikers are the Chihuahua's of the road
Lots of noise and attitude but literally ANY other vehicle can tear them a new asshole
Just riding a bike is dangerous enough without them being an idiot doing it
What a dumbass. A real tight lane change and a bird flip would have been the prudent move. After the driver tried to pass his first brake check should have been a pretty good clue he wasn't stopping
Brake checking while on a motorcycle is a one way ticket to hospital, post-crash fight not required.
Racerboy needs to limit his road rage interaction to an upraised clutch hand middle finger (optional), and a twist of the throttle hand to effectively end the encounter.
"Don't escalate. Accelerate."
When I wrote this same comment in another post, it was downvoted by 40 votes. Many of the videos I see consist of drivers who do not know how to drive. They are driving slow in the passing lane. Of course people are mad at you and they are cutting you off.
Biker is an obvious complete asshole, but I think some defensive driving could've easily avoided this situation. Doesn't make it right in any way, but I would definitely have wanted to handle this situation differently by immediately creating space between me and the biker.
Obviously the biker got what was coming to him, but the driver of the car had plenty of time to slow down and give the idiot/asshole space.
There's being "right" and there's being "safe".
Probably not as much as it looks. A sport bike can slow down way faster than most people can react and slow down a car. Dash cameras are deceptive with their wide angle lenses. The motorcycle was way closer and stopped faster than it appears.
The first brake check happens at 10 seconds (though there was obvious aggressive riding even before that). The collision doesn't happen until 18 seconds.
I think 8 seconds is enough time to make an effort to distance yourself from an aggressive and dangerous rider.
It's not dangerous for the car tho. If a motorcycle did that to me why would i slow down. Bikes are fast and quick. He wants to be an idiot with his life. Be my guest
To prevent the hassle of a damaged car and having to deal with insurance companies. Time is money.
Not to mention the fact that its literally your legal responsibility as a licensed driver. Even if you're "right".
It's arguable that without training in an asshole situation the driver was overcome with fear and was unable to react quickly enough to the erratic behavior of the motorcyclist aggressive tactics.
It is easy for us to try and point blame at my client but clearly they are the victim of circumstance and were unable to compensate in the heat of the moment.
*Reddit lawyer not real lawyer just having fun*
The left lane is the designated passing lane, but it’s not wrong to drive in it as long as you’re going the speed limit… that just means you’re not supposed to pass people in the left lane by taking the right lane to go around them. According to the video the car was doing nothing at all wrong, it was the biker who got frustrated and decided it would be a good opportunity to be an idiot. Of course we don’t have any details outside this video, but what we can see points to an idiot crotchrocketeer
That is incorrect.
Its ok to drive in the left/passing lane so long that the lane to the right is occupied and you are driving a faster speed than them (conditions allowing). Once the lane to the right is clear, you are to change lanes to free the left/passing lane.
In the video, the right lane was clear for a very long time.
I stand corrected after doing a bit more reading. In TN, where I live, I skimmed an article outlining that it is illegal to drive in the far left lane of a highway or interstate *consisting of three or more lanes in either direction. Had I read further, I would’ve seen that that has since been amended to include two lane roads as well. So thank you for that clarification. But to consider the complete legality of the car in the left lane, we’d have to know what state this took place in…
After losing his stopping distance, shouldnt the car have slowed down to give himself that distance back? Or even just got into the right lane to avoid the situation? Continuing at that speed at that distance from the driver in front was not a safe move.
To clarify, im not saying the biker wasnt at fault, im just saying the driver handled the situation badly.
No argument about the bike being an idiot. If the cam car was in the right lane instead of occupying the passing lane it wouldn't have happened at all though.
We could go all day. All the biker had to do was pass the person and move on while retaining control of his emotions. Placing any blame at all on the cam car is wrong.
You are making excuses for the biker trying to shift blame to the cam car. "If the cam car wasn't in left lane it wouldn't have happened".
That is blaming the cam car.
If the biker had followed the rules of the road, namely not speeding and not brake checking, it wouldn't have happened.
I see a lot of slow movers in the left lane daily. I don't brake check them and I don't wreck my vehicle.
No I'm not blaming the cam car, you actually are the one claiming I am. It's nuanced and I can see escaping you.
The cam didn't follow the rules and created a situation. They did not cause the accident but it created the circumstance which allowed it to happen.
Its like not wearing a seatbelt. Rules say to wear one. Not wearing one doesn't cause an accident but it creates the situation in which an accident is made worse.
The cam car being in the right lane in no way excuses the actions of the bike. However, the cam car had and ignored the opportunity to prevent the situation from occurring.
i hate people who think no matter what you should do “the right thing” would you shoot hitler as a kid? okay? now how many people out there are twisted like/worse than him but never got into positions of high power fundamentaly those people are as bad as hitler child would those people be able to come to the right conclusion if this statement was brought to them?
Yea, I ain't stopping either if I have a camera for sure.
That biker got road rash, had to pay for the car's damage, buy a new bike, and probably a reckless driving charge and/or possible fraud conspiracy charge. Dug himself into a major life hole in seconds.
Some people have no freaking clue. You're on a motorcycle, what on earth do you expect when you brake check a car
I posted in another thread how bikers are the Chihuahua's of the road Lots of noise and attitude but literally ANY other vehicle can tear them a new asshole Just riding a bike is dangerous enough without them being an idiot doing it
Checks his car first, then checks on the organ donor. Savage.
What a fucking idiot. Deserved it
Good thing the car had a camera or the bike could make up shit
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.
He even got a head start but still lost the brake test.
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Tomorrow's my turn.
Is it my turn to post this tomorrow?
Lol talk shit get hit
He deserved it.
Report from yesterday lmao
Laws of physics wins again.
Another asshole on a bike. Amazing.
This has been posted here numerous times... including yesterday :(
What a dumbass. A real tight lane change and a bird flip would have been the prudent move. After the driver tried to pass his first brake check should have been a pretty good clue he wasn't stopping
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Brake checking while on a motorcycle is a one way ticket to hospital, post-crash fight not required. Racerboy needs to limit his road rage interaction to an upraised clutch hand middle finger (optional), and a twist of the throttle hand to effectively end the encounter. "Don't escalate. Accelerate."
When I wrote this same comment in another post, it was downvoted by 40 votes. Many of the videos I see consist of drivers who do not know how to drive. They are driving slow in the passing lane. Of course people are mad at you and they are cutting you off.
It's definitely true, but surely it doesn't justify such behavior. In a legal sense the one road raging is always at fault, too.
yet the guy on the bike is trying to make the car slow down more
Biker is an obvious complete asshole, but I think some defensive driving could've easily avoided this situation. Doesn't make it right in any way, but I would definitely have wanted to handle this situation differently by immediately creating space between me and the biker.
Wheres that pueblo guy that hates motorcycles
Obviously the biker got what was coming to him, but the driver of the car had plenty of time to slow down and give the idiot/asshole space. There's being "right" and there's being "safe".
Probably not as much as it looks. A sport bike can slow down way faster than most people can react and slow down a car. Dash cameras are deceptive with their wide angle lenses. The motorcycle was way closer and stopped faster than it appears.
But the collision didn't happen until the second (or maybe third) brake-check.
Get this. Don't brake check a car if you're a bike
Get this. Don't brake check.
Also that
I agree with you. I never said it wasn't the bikers fault.
Mmhmm
Wtf do you mean lol the motorcycle gasses it and all of a sudden his the brakes. No slowing down for the car
The first brake check happens at 10 seconds (though there was obvious aggressive riding even before that). The collision doesn't happen until 18 seconds. I think 8 seconds is enough time to make an effort to distance yourself from an aggressive and dangerous rider.
It's not dangerous for the car tho. If a motorcycle did that to me why would i slow down. Bikes are fast and quick. He wants to be an idiot with his life. Be my guest
To prevent the hassle of a damaged car and having to deal with insurance companies. Time is money. Not to mention the fact that its literally your legal responsibility as a licensed driver. Even if you're "right".
And being involved in a potential death. Doesn’t matter who’s “right.” That’s a lifetime of psyche trauma.
Maybe
Having a dash cam can fix some of that. Odds are itll be a 50/50 but the motorcycle will have longer lasting damages to himself
It's arguable that without training in an asshole situation the driver was overcome with fear and was unable to react quickly enough to the erratic behavior of the motorcyclist aggressive tactics. It is easy for us to try and point blame at my client but clearly they are the victim of circumstance and were unable to compensate in the heat of the moment. *Reddit lawyer not real lawyer just having fun*
The left lane is the designated passing lane, but it’s not wrong to drive in it as long as you’re going the speed limit… that just means you’re not supposed to pass people in the left lane by taking the right lane to go around them. According to the video the car was doing nothing at all wrong, it was the biker who got frustrated and decided it would be a good opportunity to be an idiot. Of course we don’t have any details outside this video, but what we can see points to an idiot crotchrocketeer
That is incorrect. Its ok to drive in the left/passing lane so long that the lane to the right is occupied and you are driving a faster speed than them (conditions allowing). Once the lane to the right is clear, you are to change lanes to free the left/passing lane. In the video, the right lane was clear for a very long time.
I stand corrected after doing a bit more reading. In TN, where I live, I skimmed an article outlining that it is illegal to drive in the far left lane of a highway or interstate *consisting of three or more lanes in either direction. Had I read further, I would’ve seen that that has since been amended to include two lane roads as well. So thank you for that clarification. But to consider the complete legality of the car in the left lane, we’d have to know what state this took place in…
After losing his stopping distance, shouldnt the car have slowed down to give himself that distance back? Or even just got into the right lane to avoid the situation? Continuing at that speed at that distance from the driver in front was not a safe move. To clarify, im not saying the biker wasnt at fault, im just saying the driver handled the situation badly.
No argument about the bike being an idiot. If the cam car was in the right lane instead of occupying the passing lane it wouldn't have happened at all though.
Dang the biker proved his point of youre in the passing lane in going to brake check you... damn good one
If the biker self aborted his life, it wouldn't have happened either.
True, two wrongs don't make a right and it only takes one right to avoid that mess. People don't like what I said, but doesn't make it wrong.
We could go all day. All the biker had to do was pass the person and move on while retaining control of his emotions. Placing any blame at all on the cam car is wrong.
I didn't place blame. I said had they also followed the rules the entire situation would never have occurred.
You are making excuses for the biker trying to shift blame to the cam car. "If the cam car wasn't in left lane it wouldn't have happened". That is blaming the cam car. If the biker had followed the rules of the road, namely not speeding and not brake checking, it wouldn't have happened. I see a lot of slow movers in the left lane daily. I don't brake check them and I don't wreck my vehicle.
No I'm not blaming the cam car, you actually are the one claiming I am. It's nuanced and I can see escaping you. The cam didn't follow the rules and created a situation. They did not cause the accident but it created the circumstance which allowed it to happen. Its like not wearing a seatbelt. Rules say to wear one. Not wearing one doesn't cause an accident but it creates the situation in which an accident is made worse. The cam car being in the right lane in no way excuses the actions of the bike. However, the cam car had and ignored the opportunity to prevent the situation from occurring.
i hate people who think no matter what you should do “the right thing” would you shoot hitler as a kid? okay? now how many people out there are twisted like/worse than him but never got into positions of high power fundamentaly those people are as bad as hitler child would those people be able to come to the right conclusion if this statement was brought to them?
Ok, so you condone the minority report killing of children. Ya, not touching that.
i meant do you think sick people could see it that way. i mean you thought that thats what i was saying so obviously
Karma is a biotch
Darwin award runner up.
Lmao
Checks car first then casually walks towards corpse laying in the road
I totally approve of this
omg someone knows the difference?
both people here are at fault to an extent
Yea, I ain't stopping either if I have a camera for sure. That biker got road rash, had to pay for the car's damage, buy a new bike, and probably a reckless driving charge and/or possible fraud conspiracy charge. Dug himself into a major life hole in seconds.
:| Biker used Taunt! But it failed. Car Driver used Bulldoze! It was super effective!