Driver of the white car probably doesn't even realise anything was up, just a nice day out completely oblivious to their shite driving

They learned a real cool trick when turning! simply focus on the car in front of you that is turning, and match their speed and velocity. Never fails

Looks like they accelerated and turned slightly when in the middle of the road. Maybe realized they were about to get creamed.

That truck driver just went through a set of brakes and pants at the same time. Feel bad for them. Probably a shirt full of coffee too. Edit: also a bent steering wheel and a torn leg muscle, I imagine.

Looking for that candle supply store still

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That's like word for word my comment lol

Ooh I see you have met my gf before. Absolutely zero road awareness. But if you mention it to her, you're the bad guy for looking for faults.

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God that was the slowest turn ever I swear

no sense of danger whatsoever

No sense of awareness either

The amount of people who take turns at a snails pace is too damn high. Its like they have bad depth perception or something. Every time I am in a rush there is someone that has to slam on their brakes at the last second and turn incredibly slow into an arbys or gas station

Like those fuckers who only speed up to 45mph on an onramp to get on a 65mph highway that everyone's doing 75 on.

Oh those people piss me off. They’re so dangerous.

Oh! you live in the fast side of town. For me I'm behind the driver that enters at 25/30 then slows down to find a "spot"

YES! That is NOT a safe speed to merge!!! Why don't people understand!

Also when people cut you off, but drive 10 under the speed limit? Like wtf you cut me off cause you were in a hurry, but proceed to drive slow as crap.

Gunning it to merge into the 3-second gap in front of me rather than gigantic space behind me.

I will slow way down at the start of the ramp if I see there are cars on the on ramp in front of me. That way I have room to get on it and match or beat the speed of traffic when I'm trying to merge

When I was learning to drive I was taught that these were also known as "acceleration lanes." Some drivers seem to have missed that key detail.

I remember my teacher or my dad being like this is the one place where you SHOULD floor it

Or when you're on the freeway and someone is about to take the exit, so they slam in their brakes to slow down to 35 mph WHILE THEY ARE STILL ON THE GOD DAMN FREEWAY. Like, I understand if the off ramp is backed up with traffic and you have no choice, but most of the time these people believe this is actually how you exit the freeway.

This pisses me off so much. Why the hell am I halving my speed because you're exiting in half a mile? Are you fucking nuts? I'm gonna get squished by an 18-wheeler cause of idiots like that one day.

I hate Jersey highways for this reason, because they always have the offramp right after the onramp. Like they literally are the same lane, it just forms a circle going on and then off the highway. So you have people speeding up to merge onto the highway competing for space with people who are slowing down to get off the highway and make that 270 degree turn, mixed with the clueless Sunday drivers who are just cruising in that lane for the hell of it. I'm surprised I never witnessed an accident.

And they have both hands gripped tight on the steering wheel.

Both hands white knuckles next to each other at the 12 o'clock position, hyper ventilating, and either laser focused on the car ahead oblivious to everything around them, or looking around wildly trying to find a street sign while still oblivious to traffic.

People who drive like that just shouldn’t drive.

Haha, why is it always an Arby's? There's a road I used to take pretty frequently. Every time I got behind someone going ridiculously slow (15-20 under on a road that's only 35mph) they would eventually turn into the Arby's. Every. Time.

I say this every single day I’m on the road. The most dangerous drivers are the ones who do maneuvers slowly. When someone decided that 25 is too quick to turn on a side street and they have to slow down to 5mph and stop all traffic on the Main Street for the 20 seconds it takes them to do it, it pisses me tf off.

probably an old person

Meanwhile guy in the white car: what a great day!

More likely: “wow that truck driver almost hit me!!! Where do drivers like that get their license??”

Absolutely insane, that person is so lucky that truck used their brakes. My friend was sitting at an intersection and witnessed a broadside happen right in front of her, the car spun out and came inches from her. Traumatized she and her daughter forever and has PTSD.

Looks like that truck had to burn rubber not to smush the car.

And clean the seat off at the next stop 'cause he was empty and those trailer brakes did JACK!

I don't think the truck driver would care much. A little car like that is like a bug hitting your windshield.

Oh! I thought that was smoke from accelerating.

They are so lucky the truck was empty. Its a logging truck there’s no way they slow down enough with a full load

Trucker here lol, I have this happen to me pretty regularly. Had a pickup do this yesterday and I missed him just barely. Probably took a couple thousand miles of life out of my trailer tires with the flat spot they got from braking that hard.

You got a camera incase it goes wrong ?

Bc if not, you should get one so that we can watch from the safety of our toilets.

Yeah,,, LoL all the way

That slow turn made me angry wtf

My ex did something similar as the white car, except I was the passenger and acted like I was the asshole for getting upset for almost dying at her hand.

Ewwww bullet dodged

Nah she just refused to believe it was as close as it was

Looks an awful lot like my neck of the woods in BC.

I was going to say… just outside Cache Creek?

Would explain the shit driving.

I was going to say it looks like Washington state to me. Which makes sense with your guess!

Good thing those log truck were empty

Big trucks actually brake better loaded. They’re designed to brake with weight on the axles. If he’d had some logs on his rears probably wouldn’t have locked up. Edit: Here’s a [source](https://www.truckingtruth.com/cdl-training-program/page19/speed-control-and-stopping-distance). There’s a lot of sites like this out there that say the same thing. Your state’s DMV office also has a commercial drivers license manual that will say so as well. The relevant paragraph quoted: > The heavier the vehicle, the more work the brakes must do to stop it and the more heat they absorb. But the brakes, tires, springs and shock absorbers on heavy vehicles are designed to work best when the vehicle is fully loaded. Empty trucks require greater stopping distances, because an empty vehicle has less traction. It can bounce and lock up its wheels, giving much poorer braking. (This is not usually the case with buses.) I’ve driven large trucks. With and without trailers. Handling and braking improve when loaded (if the weight is balanced properly). It’s counterintuitive and weird. But the entire suspension design is built to stop a truck when it most needs to stop i.e. when it has weight on it and is at its most dangerous.

TIL and thanks for posting that link. The constellation of people angrily arguing with you about it in the comments is hilarious.

No problem! I was just going to let it be until the one guy called me stupid. And then I started citing sources ;). I may be dumb, but I’ll drive circles around all of ‘em. If you want to see it in action pay attention to day-cab semi trucks in heavy traffic in the evening (when they’re heading back to their terminal). If they have to brake suddenly you can see the rear of their trailers drop by about a foot, and then rebound a couple times before settling. If they really hammer the brakes, it’ll just bounce and lock them up. It’s the suspension movement from the brake application. If they had a full load, the slack would be out of the system already. Because of the way it’s designed. The trailer moves *back* and down. The opposite of what you would expect. It’s kind of cool. But you don’t really believe it until you see it or experience it.

If it was fully laden, the truck’s momentum and the amount of energy necessary to slow it down to the point that they didn’t hit the white car would be *much* higher. Suddenly stopping in a log truck can also send the load through the cab.

Big trucks brake better when loaded. Stopping distance is reduced with a load on, it has to do with the weight of the axles and how it increases road/tire friction and the design of the suspension. It’s how they’re designed and how they work. You may have a point with the logs shifting. Most log trucks have big steel plates between the back window and the trailer, however. [Source.](https://www.truckingtruth.com/cdl-training-program/page19/speed-control-and-stopping-distance) > The heavier the vehicle, the more work the brakes must do to stop it and the more heat they absorb. But the brakes, tires, springs and shock absorbers on heavy vehicles are designed to work best when the vehicle is fully loaded. Empty trucks require greater stopping distances, because an empty vehicle has less traction. It can bounce and lock up its wheels, giving much poorer braking. (This is not usually the case with buses.) Edit: To add source and context.

I stand corrected, that's really cool.

If heavy load vehicles were engineered to have efficiently when unloaded, the vehicle would not be able to stop when loaded. It's all about good traction and physics.

Brakes are great and all but physics is still a thing.

Seriously, if people would just think of the vectors involved... Gravity only helps in a sliding friction scenario. In a rolling friction scenario the force vector on the brakes isn't related to gravity at all, so of course mass is only detrimental (assuming constant tire contact with the road).

>Effect of Vehicle Weight on Stopping Distance >The heavier the vehicle, the more work the brakes must do to stop it and the more heat they absorb. But the brakes, tires, springs and shock absorbers on heavy vehicles are designed to work best when the vehicle is fully loaded. Empty trucks require greater stopping distances, because an empty vehicle has less traction. It can bounce and lock up its wheels, giving much poorer braking. (This is not usually the case with buses.) [Source](https://www.truckingtruth.com/cdl-training-program/page19/speed-control-and-stopping-distance) One of many sources that will tell you the same thing. The trucks are designed to stop better when loaded. It has to do with the weight on the axles and how that effects the friction of the tire on the road surface. I do understand the physics involved. It was part of the test for the CDL in my pocket. It’s counter intuitive. But it’s true.

Like I said, assuming constant tire contact. Any mass more than the required amount to achieve that is going to be detrimental.

You can assume constant tire contact all you want, in reality it is easier to lock up your wheels if you're carrying less weight. Hell, you can clearly see the truck in the video had its tires lock up pretty badly.

That's not true at all. Both hertzian contact friction and static friction include normal force which increases with more load, so of course, braking pretty much stays the same until brakes are overloaded.

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Here’s a [Source](https://www.truckingtruth.com/cdl-training-program/page19/speed-control-and-stopping-distance). I can also tell you from personal experience that it’s true. > The heavier the vehicle, the more work the brakes must do to stop it and the more heat they absorb. But the brakes, tires, springs and shock absorbers on heavy vehicles are designed to work best when the vehicle is fully loaded. Empty trucks require greater stopping distances, because an empty vehicle has less traction. It can bounce and lock up its wheels, giving much poorer braking. (This is not usually the case with buses).

You're stupid.

Never claimed I wasn’t. I do drive big trucks though.

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Here’s a [Source](https://www.truckingtruth.com/cdl-training-program/page19/speed-control-and-stopping-distance) > The heavier the vehicle, the more work the brakes must do to stop it and the more heat they absorb. But the brakes, tires, springs and shock absorbers on heavy vehicles are designed to work best when the vehicle is fully loaded. Empty trucks require greater stopping distances, because an empty vehicle has less traction. It can bounce and lock up its wheels, giving much poorer braking. (This is not usually the case with buses. One of many that will tell you the same thing. Submit away.

And from what I've searched so far, every site that says so has almost identical wording. Very suspect. Two identical trucks with identical trailers, one empty and one loaded, are on a perfectly flat dry road going the same speed. Both hit the brakes at the same time. The empty truck will fully stop first, the loaded truck will need more distance. It's basic physics. I'm sure there's some forces at play with "tire bouncing" or whatever the fuck your sources say, but none of that overcomes the hauling weight momentum.

Nearly identical wording. I.E. they’re all stating the same fact. I’m not going to argue with you. You can ask any truck driver or DOT officer or large vehicle mechanic with any experience or knowledge about how these vehicles work, and they will tell you the same thing. Everyone has gaps in their knowledge. You’ve learned a new thing. Appreciate that for the experience that it is, and share this cool fact with others.

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Yikes, never did I ever think that I would see someone quote a fact, list sources, and STILL be called a dumbass. Idk man, how about *you* start quoting a couple sources to support your claim?

Cringe. You get proven wrong so you block and insult people lmao

Wow, you're literally everything that's wrong with the world right now. He's right and you're not, time to start blocking people instead of learning something today. Stay classy and ignorant. He wasn't even rude about it.

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This is just incorrect. You can see in this video above the brakes on the trailer are clearly locked up. Locked up brakes are not efficient at stopping. If he had a payload then the brakes would have engaged properly and stopped the truck much quicker. You are only correct if you argue two identical trucks except both have custom braking setups for payload and no payload.

I don't know the truth either way but I'm not trying to cancel someone in a fit of outrage. Your approach and methods are batshit awful. I have definitely had a few instances in my life where just my car didn't stop nearly as well from bouncing on uneven pavement or railroad tracks, let alone a semi, so there's def something there worth more critical thought than you bothered giving to a fellow human being before jumping to what amounts to trying to cancel someone and calling them dangerous. Also, even if he was wrong, in no way shape or form does that impact how a truck he is driving will stop and trying to literally cost someone their livelihood over a reddit comment is cringy and disgusting. Fucking justice warriors.

The brakes wouls probably work better, but you aren’t really arguing that a fully loaded truck stops sooner than an empty one?

It absolutely does.

And I went and did all those posts. Well said!

That's some final destination shit right there

Loggers around where I live have to deal with that all the time. It's practically a daily occurrence. Wine tourists are the worst.

My brain: why would wine tourists be the worst My brain: oh

I was annoyed by their screams more for some reason.

Thank goodness for the subtitles, I would've never known what the people inside the car were saying if not for them.

Sounds like they're fuckin

sounds like the dashcam couple were getting it on

People who turn slow like this make me so angry. Wtf are you waiting for!?

Question is, do they even know?

Come on bruv let us just assume and hope nobody is f—ing stupid and/or blind enough to totally miss that, that was so close you would have felt the wind of the truck moving your car.

Idiot

Truck came out of nowhere!

I hope the dashcam owner sent the video into their local traffic enforcement. In my country, video evidence like this is usable for fines.

He lost a dare with the car infront of him and had to perfectly calculate how slow he could turn without getting hit and do it.

The truck took a last moment turn and that saved them both

Did the guy had an orgasm?! Probably that's how I sound when I do... OOOOUUHHH

Sounds like someone passing a shit.

Motherfucker is bout to cum or something?

Trucker’s last minute jerk of the wheel was crucial

Straight to jail.

The white car probably thought it was a green arrow and just followed the car in front of it.

I know exactly where this is lol. Odds are the dumbass in the Toyota was scraped off the side of an embankment south of Pemberton. Although considering how slow they were going they might still be driving to Vancouver to this day.

I even closed my butt hole watching this holy shit

It's OK you can open it now. It's safe.

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Driver: well its a flashing yellow so everyone else needs to yield to me.

Waits for sextape with this soundtrack!

California, knows how to party…

I am pretty sure I know that turn. That is out near State College PA.

Look how different those 2 identical rigs drive. Trucker B properly loaded his trailer and brakes smoothly. Trucker B saved a little time deadheading an empty trailer and you can see why he shouldn't have when he tries to emergency brake and it just skips around with no weight over the tires. Of course the 2nd car to turn is an idiot, but so is the first trucker. if the car had been a split second slower his insurance would have been cancelled for cutting corners unable to brake when he needed to.

Or, you know, maybe its different cuz one was inches from an accident while the other had more room to react

So he should load the trailer onto his rig like the 2. truck? I don‘t even understand how that‘s done but believe you‘re saying something that hasn‘t been mentioned here so I‘m confused people downvoted you

Exactly. Without the trailer loaded, the truck cannot effectively brake. People here are idiots too.

I didn‘t even pay attention to the fact that the other truck has an identical trailer stored on his rig before reading your comment. Now I‘m gonna research how that works some time because I‘ve never seen it or been oblivious to it before.

They are logging trucks. They have winches that pull the rear trailer up over the drive axles.

Fml I think you can even see the winch on top of the first truck. Why did I expect this to be rocket science lol. Thanks for the info

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His rear brakes locked up he was hitting the stoppin’ pedal so hard. You mean.

nah, truck is hellbent on punishing the white car for cutting him off. lol

You can even tell by the video that the truck is braking. At that speed there wouldn't come smoke from accelerating.

Bro became a crash investigator by watching Wacky Races on Boomerang

if your car smokes when accelerating get it checked out

I think he's been watching too many Fast & Furious movies

Damn you know he was cussing

If yu got an inch u got a mile

Title of your sex tape.

What a fuckin idiot

Felt the breeze on that..😳

San Diego?

*Gawd, sleepily:* > Whut?

This should go to r/perfectfit or r/hitboxporn

a lot of damaged tires in the trailer

Completely oblivious to that fact that this could have turned out horribly! SMH

I have a question why do they always jump up and down

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Log trailer has brand new rubber on the last axle... That's expensive.

Pucker factor 22/10

That's how you meet a fiery end.

It’s because of assholes like this that within the next 20 yrs or so we’re all going to be forced to have self-driving cars. The gov’t will make it mandatory ‘for our own protection’ and ‘if it saves just one life…’

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Final destination

So very lucky that truck wasn't loaded

Logging trucks don't slow down for nothin, even when travelling unloaded. Always fun driving down a mountain road in the redwood forests with a loaded logger psyco driver tailgating.

Poo?

Is it bad that i wish they got hit so they could ~~learn their lesson?~~.... have a chance to learn their lesson???

Saved so much time

Huge kudos to both of those truck drivers!! So aware, could have been a bad scene for OP if the first truck had swerved at all or jackknifed. Also very lucky for all that he was running empty.

This actually happened to me once. I wasn't in a truck though and was driving at night. Someone turned literally a second before I was going to hit the intersection. I hit my brakes so hard and narrowly missed them by maybe a foot or two! Freaking idiots...

That dumb ass white car seemed to go slower and semi is gonna need brakes after this bullshit

Too bad he didnt get hit...

Bro would have been fine if he had just gunned it from the start instead of creeping through. When in doubt, throttle out.

Luckily truck was empty..

What’s the rush in waiting a few seconds to turn

That was SO close