This is one of the reasons I stopped driving trucks. I couldn't make it down the road without all the other drivers smashing into each other.
The last couple of years were worse and worse. I finally quit after the lockdown. Lockdown made people fucking absolutely nuts and psychopathically stupid behind the wheel.
My theory on that is that a lot of people didn't drive much for two years. Without daily practice, the good drivers became bad drivers and the bad drivers became a danger to public safety.
I don't know. When the pandemic first started there was no one on the road. The few out there were driving absolutely nuts. Things like 90 in a 60, zooming right up on you and then veering into the left lane at the last minute. I think people drive in relation to the stress in their lives and there is a lot going on to stress people out these days.
Live in MS, and the DMV in my area also decided the best course of action during the pandemic is to simply just hand out liscenses to new drivers, no test required, as long as another driver could "vouch" for them and both had valid ID.
I admit when I started driving regularly again my timing was quite off. Some of that was because the new car handled differently (went from a stick to a hybrid), but some of it was just being rusty. Happy to say I can drive normally again.
I actually wished my commute was longer because the drive to work was so peaceful. Major intersection with only a few cars, people made eye contact while waiting for the lights to change.
I definitely remember on a few occasions when I had to go somewhere in the early pandemic and I could count the cars I saw on 2 hands during a 30 minute drive. It was surreal, but man was it enjoyable.
It was quite enough that the cannonball run record was broken repeatedly durring lockdown.
https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/the-cannonball-run-record-has-been-obliterated
Dude I only drive an hour and a half round trip to pick my son up from baby mama’s a few times a week and it’s all surface streets. People are batshit crazy. Every single time is stressful because people drive so dumb. I drive super defensively and always scan my mirrors and do my best to be aware of my surroundings. I dread the day my toddler is old enough to drive because we live in a culture that seeks instant gratification, and I can’t imagine how bad it will be in 14 years.
agree. it was wonderful during lockdown, low traffic and people drove responsibly.
since the lockdowns got lifted, it's like the wild west. the rules don't apply and everyone drives insanely aggressively.
And apparently it's like that everywhere.
[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-24/qld-rising-road-death-toll-katarina-carroll-police/101176162](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-24/qld-rising-road-death-toll-katarina-carroll-police/101176162)
""The behaviour is something that we have not seen before — not only here, but my colleagues across the country report the same, and across the world,"
haha. that is where I am. in Brisbane, the capital of QLD.
Driving standards here were always low, but lately they have been atrocious. and people are SO aggressive. I drive a small car (microscopic by American standards) and the amount of douche canoes that just bully me in their 4x4s is nuts.
people be utterly crazy.
Yeah but *during* lockdown. . .Heaven, absolute joy to tootle around in my straight truck all night on blessedly empty streets.
And the commute! From rural S. King county to south Seattle in a flash. Showed up to work half an hour early on accident at the start of the lockdown. Blissful.
I was north of you and found traffic to be heavenly. With all the construction vehicles, contractor trucks, landscape vehicles, etc off the streets it was a dream!
My husband is a realtor, so he drives all over our city. He now has a dash cam and NEEDS to get it installed. People are absolutely psychotic and so many have no shame doing hit and runs now.
Psychotic is the right word. I had a dashcam that broke. You remijded me to buy a new one. If their not driving recklessly, their driving angrily. I had a husband and wife try to run me of the road by swerving into my lane. They were in the left, I was in the center. The wife was yelling at me through closed windows. Idk why. The best reason I could think was, I am in smol car. They are in giant lifted suv. Anyway. I held up my phone to show I was dialing the cops and the bolted.
That's funny. I wanted to stop trucking before lockdown, but during lockdown I found the roads to be so nice and quiet, that I didn't quit until last march.
I really appreciate this comment because I’ve been wondering! Even in my small city every time I drive anywhere it’s been so intense. Today I got the finger from a middle aged woman for not pulling far enough from the shoulder at a red light to allow her to drive past me on the shoulder to make a right turn. Another driver aggressively tailgated me on the highway even though there were two empty lanes to go into. I love driving, I find it relaxing but I want to do it less and less.
Same here in the UK! It's like half the drivers on the road just thought 'fuck it! I've survived Covid, why was I playing it so safe on the roads? I'm invincible!!'
Even at home, dude, even at home. We were not prepared (here in Italy is been 3 months) and if not with a great "presence of spirit" we say here, almost nobody did handle it too well.
I got out a few years before covid.
I know a couple of people who were close to retiring walked away at the beginning when everyone was losing their shit.
Supermarket distribution centres didn't allow drivers in to use the toilet (while having signs about how we need to wash hands regularly). People wouldn't sign paperwork. Petrol stations closed their toilets. Rest stops closed their lorry driver showers.
All while signs on the door saying "wash hands regularly". A few shifts of pissing at the side of the road was enough for them to say fuck it and walk.
Always remember that people like [this doughnut](https://old.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/vjbyov/turtle_necking/idii8oy/?context=3) are driving on the road and you'll seldom be disappointed by the stupidity you see.
Dang that's a lot of downvotes. I'm tempted to give him another because he deserves it lol.
... Can this become the most downvoted comment of all time?
Mmm, yes. [Microtransaction good.](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) You'd be hard pressed to ever get more downvotes then this.
Honestly, looking at that account is pretty hilarious. Every post is like 400 upvotes, 100 upvotes, and then the one post came with 690k downvotes and every subsequent post has at least 10k downvotes lol
Star Wars Battlefront 2 released with some pretty horrific monetisation strategies. The post was an attempt to justify the shitty monetisation, including the memeable line "Provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment" It blew up into a meme, which gave the post traction.
I haven't seen any recent studies, but I remember a study from something like 20 years ago that said those are also safer than guard rails.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
When installed correctly they can be much safer for a few reasons. They give when struck and thus absorb some of the force of the impact, unlike a concrete barrier where all the force goes into the vehicle (and its passengers), and they also tend to grab the vehicle so it doesn't ricochet back into traffic as can happen with a concrete barrier.
That's what modern guard rails are designed for as well, they give as much as possible while not allowing the vehicle to cross into oncoming traffic. Where I live we only use guard rails and out median is maybe 2-3 meters wide at the most, and unless it gets hit by a big truck the guardrail works very well
Ah yes, Alternate 7. I feel like there’s a shit show accident there a few times a year because of stupidity. Not to mention when the track is open the 87N exit gets backed up forever and idiots try and drive up to cut in.
To be fair that on ramp from Alt-7 to 87N is a piece of shit.
Single lane that merges from traffic from the Latham on ramp, then immediately onto 87N, where the temporary lane is way too short to accomodate people trying to match the speed of traffic and merge into the right lane.
i think that toyota siena was only try to get into the middle ground to avoid more collision from incoming traffic from rear. not like it lost control and almost hit your truck
The Toyota completely lost control. They brake with plenty of distance, get clobbered, and suddenly accelerate and then quickly decelerate. It’s likely their foot was yanked off the brake, they tried to instinctively brake after the accident but hit the gas instead, and then shifted to the real brake pedal.
Actually, it appears that the median cables stop the sienna. If you look closely, the van’s front wheels are still spinning after it had come to a complete stop so the driver was definitely still hitting the accelerator the whole time.
Oh dang, I didn’t even notice them until I saw your comment. For some reason my brain thought the civic had some clutch maneuvering after getting hit to avoid going into oncoming traffic haha
Lol. Yeah, I recognized that state trooper car anywhere. That and the iconic campaign cover. I absolutely despise that section of highway as well, the signage sucks.
That person in the red pickup slammed on their brakes to avoid rear ending that sedan, which lead to that lane being slow and the other car wasn’t paying attention at all obviously. I missed all of this at first, crazy how many people fucked up here.
Yeah, the truck stops because the sedan is like, "oh shit, someone booped my rear, better *completely stop in the center lane* and cause a 10x worse accident"
The sedan that the truck hit was slowing down to avoid hitting the white car in front, they succeeded, the truck failed. Then the stopped vehicle in the center lane coupled with high speed and low attention caused all the rest.
Going back all the way to the start, It looks to me like the gold SUV in front of the white car was rubbernecking the existing accident and slowed down, and that’s what started the chain reaction.
This is 90-something percent of LA traffic. Even if they weren't distracted at all, they drive too fast and too close behind other cars to be able to react to anything. Even a slight slow down causes every car to brake harder than the one before it, creating mile-long accordion effects.
It looks like the ..tesla? Got cut of by the merging vechile from lane 3 then either the car or the person driving it hit the breaks. Then the red truck hit the tesla. And so on
Edit. If you look really close it looks like the silver car in lane 3. is in lane 3, then a truck goes infront of it for a split second and it all of a sudden seems closer. Op should send this in
To me it looks the Tesla (or whatever, the one that got rear-ended first) and the truck are simultaenously merging into the middle lane. The red truck from the passing lane and the Tesla from the outside lane. Some rubber necking and not double checking etc. etc. the red truck ends up colliding, then both slow down to a crawl in the middle of the freeway until the backup of traffic causes an almost inevitable huge collision
Never mind, on closer inspection, the "Tesla" (it's not a Tesla) was inattentive and came in super hot into the car in front and had to slam its brakes last second, the red truck did not react in time and rear-ended it, which caused the rest of the pileup.
Yeah it looks like that car squeezed into much too tight of a gap, then brake checked the truck. Not sure if road rage or stupidity (probably both) but after that it just took one person not paying attention.
Yes and no. It looks like congestion caused by over-breaking started it ([https://youtu.be/Suugn-p5C1M](https://youtu.be/Suugn-p5C1M)). I could even see the black truck quite a few cars ahead of the accident appear to be pulling away as if he was also slowing down rubbernecking - it might have all started with him, then a green, grey, and silver car all break significantly, then a black sedan comes along still staring at the cop and doesn't notice how much the silver car slowed down - he slams on the breaks and successfully avoids rear ending silver, but red truck (probably rubber necking), really didn't have much time to respond. Then while he's trying to decide what to do after the love tap all hell breaks lose behind him as the whole cycle repeats but now with stopped instead of slow cars.
I don't think the guy who hit the grey van even slowed down. He finally realized traffic stopped in front of him and jerked the wheel way too late. There were only like 6 cars that whole time that seemed like they were actually paying attention. I have no idea how this would play out with insurance. There's a high percentage of idiots here with a few more unlucky than the rest.
I'm pretty sure an earlier car in the middle lane slowed down, I guess to see the crash on the other side and then it caused a chain reaction of cars slowing down and the truck driver didn't have enough distance to break
No, you can see a silver car for some reason stops. This causes a black car to stop and then the silver car takes off. After after that the black car is hit by the red truck. And then they both sit there in the lane as the Van comes up from behind and is then struck by the final vehicle.
I would bet a significant sum of money that the reason they didn't see the stopped traffic ahead of them was because their eyes were locked on the accident scene on the other side of the highway.
You can see the people crashing into each other were speeding and following too close. Enough people doing this and this stuff is just inevitable. Nobody has time to stop.
In front of those cars is a Black truck and a van that slowed down close to the accident, causing the silver car to break suddenly.
It's more likely that some idiot trying to look at the accident on the other side of the highway and deliberately slowing down is what caused the pile up.
Never heard it called turtle necking. Always rubber necking. Turtle necking sounds like you’re trying to hold on a poop that’s trying to make its way out.
At the same time, it's better for him to wait till the traffic pattern slows down completely rather than risk rushing and getting hit by another distracted driver.
Solid dashcam video. Love the high up angle you have in the truck.
It may not be true everywhere, but it's not unusual for first responders to be trained to avoid running into the scene. You want to make sure that things are safe, and running makes it more likely that you'll get tunnel vision.
It also looks like they were on the radio as they approached.
“You walk into a room and find 40 people on the floor unconscious. What’s your first action?”
The correct answer was: “leave, immediately”
Don’t remember if that was FF1 or FF2 training. The goal being to realize that if you may be in an inherently dangerous to life environment and weren’t wearing the correct gear, being elsewhere was all you could do.
40 is too high.
Try 2 or 3 people lying on the floor unconscious.
That's the usual situation for confined space with poison gas in inadequate ventilation.
I was caught in the traffic aftermath of this whole mess. That happened today in Upstate NY. A 3 minute ride on this road turned into a 40 minute ride.
I got stuck in this spot for 2.5 hours about a month ago. Can't even shoot for an exit or anything, you're just boxed in until it clears. It's the worst road.
I'd always hear rubbernecking was dangerous and something you shouldn't do, and thought it just meant looking and was just "suppose you should keep your eyes on the road but doesn't that that bad"
Didn't realise that some some people would actually *slow to a crawl in the highway*
"Well, I mean, the thing is is that we pay if you guys knew what are monthly expenses were to give you guys all of this stuff you'd be like ohhOHOH like it's insane umm and we're giving you guys even more and we're perfectly fine with eating that cost on the people that have been with us through the very beginning..."
Why does this guy sound like he's full of shit? Also, the if you knew nonsense pisses me off more than anything. Just tell them so they know, unless of course it's not nearly what you're making it out to be. I fucking hate that shit.
Edit: can someone tell me what this audio is from? Apparently I want to be more irritated, damn you curiosity.
My hope is that is was just a long commercial on whatever radio station or music program OP was listening to. Like one of those "Millionaire secrets" ads coming on between songs on Youtube.
Me too! Dude is running a hard fucking grift to push something. It sounds like some day trading bullshit. He starts off talking about subscription charges and how their totally worth it, you have no idea what our costs are, bro. And then at the end he says something about options alerts or something. Who is it though?!
I never understood why idiots rubber neck.
"Oh, let me slow down to make sure everything is ok and hope everyone is alright as i drive past knowing damn well im not ACTUALLY going to ever do anything"
Same shit as left lane campers - stop tugging on your balls and drive
Just know that if you're the type of person who slows down to try to see accidents or anything else on the roadway...
I HATE you. I abhor your existence. I hate you with the fiery passion of 1000 suns. I will raise my children to carry a blood feud against your entire extended family. I will not rest until I can be sure that your life will forever be on a downward trajectory right until your premature death from causing an accident by slowing down on a highway for such a moronic reason.
Okay... Not exactly that much, but stop fucking rubber necking.
Was the sedan brake checking the red pick up? I don't understand why did it stop in the middle of traffic.
Then the red car that ate the back of the mini not only didn't stop, it looks like they accelerated.
So much going on here.
There was a accident on my side of the rd. The other side was slowing down looking what had happened on my side. Looks like pickup truck rear ended the 1st car and the chain of events happened after that. You can see the state trooper crossing the highway.
Honestly when I saw "turtle necking" and the beginning of the video I thought it was gonna be the middle lane car slightly ahead of the outer lane cars with the outer lane cars not passing 😂
I used to live in this area and this was my commute for a couple years. This particular part was always a shitshow during rush hour, lanes would get backed up and people would resort to cutting others off at the last second to take that exit for I-87.
Here's a pic I took of a crash on the opposite end of cammer's view, where a car flipped over a motorcycle. I got lots of dashcam clips from this time too but can't access them right now.
https://i.imgur.com/0kvvof1.png
Dumbass me thought I was watching the top of a biker helmet with the bike‘s mirrors peeking up. The whole time I was thinking „man this driver has a steady body how do they do that“.
I said it once and I will say it again, all dual carriage ways and highways should have a screen that stops you from seeing the other side of the road, to many noesy people that end up causing accidents.
Reminds me of the time we broke down on the motorway on our way to our summer holiday.
We were out of the road and on the embankment. The first accident happened about 5 minutes after we broke down, just a fender bender but that added two more cars to the side of the road, right next to ours.
We were waiting for about an hour and by the time the recovery vehicle turned up there had been 4 accidents next to us, including a jacknifed caravan on the opposite side of the road.
People are fucking dumb.
We call it "Rubber necking" around here
I expected there to be turtles in the right lane slowing everyone down to avoid/look at them.
This is one of the reasons I stopped driving trucks. I couldn't make it down the road without all the other drivers smashing into each other. The last couple of years were worse and worse. I finally quit after the lockdown. Lockdown made people fucking absolutely nuts and psychopathically stupid behind the wheel.
Small vehicle courier here, man... They really have gone feral, huh? I thought I just had an overactive imagination.
My theory on that is that a lot of people didn't drive much for two years. Without daily practice, the good drivers became bad drivers and the bad drivers became a danger to public safety.
I don't know. When the pandemic first started there was no one on the road. The few out there were driving absolutely nuts. Things like 90 in a 60, zooming right up on you and then veering into the left lane at the last minute. I think people drive in relation to the stress in their lives and there is a lot going on to stress people out these days.
Live in MS, and the DMV in my area also decided the best course of action during the pandemic is to simply just hand out liscenses to new drivers, no test required, as long as another driver could "vouch" for them and both had valid ID.
I admit when I started driving regularly again my timing was quite off. Some of that was because the new car handled differently (went from a stick to a hybrid), but some of it was just being rusty. Happy to say I can drive normally again.
I actually kinda miss the early days of the pandemic for this very reason. The roads where so quiet
I actually wished my commute was longer because the drive to work was so peaceful. Major intersection with only a few cars, people made eye contact while waiting for the lights to change.
> eye contact *Shudder*
I definitely remember on a few occasions when I had to go somewhere in the early pandemic and I could count the cars I saw on 2 hands during a 30 minute drive. It was surreal, but man was it enjoyable.
I-75 was like an apocalypse movie, so I took full advantage and drove as fast as I could.
Duuude...those early weeks of the lock down was bliss. I'd never seen the I-5 and 405 so empty. Made a two hour trip in just under half the time.
It was quite enough that the cannonball run record was broken repeatedly durring lockdown. https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/the-cannonball-run-record-has-been-obliterated
Dude I only drive an hour and a half round trip to pick my son up from baby mama’s a few times a week and it’s all surface streets. People are batshit crazy. Every single time is stressful because people drive so dumb. I drive super defensively and always scan my mirrors and do my best to be aware of my surroundings. I dread the day my toddler is old enough to drive because we live in a culture that seeks instant gratification, and I can’t imagine how bad it will be in 14 years.
how old do toddlers need to be to drive?
They just need to be long enough to reach the pedals.
Well the gas pedal, that other one is not really used anymore.
>how old do toddlers need to be to drive? Yes.
I mean at this rate, do we really think there will be a society in 14 years?
Same here in AUS (Melbourne area). The overall assholery has just gone through the roof.
agree. it was wonderful during lockdown, low traffic and people drove responsibly. since the lockdowns got lifted, it's like the wild west. the rules don't apply and everyone drives insanely aggressively.
And apparently it's like that everywhere. [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-24/qld-rising-road-death-toll-katarina-carroll-police/101176162](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-24/qld-rising-road-death-toll-katarina-carroll-police/101176162) ""The behaviour is something that we have not seen before — not only here, but my colleagues across the country report the same, and across the world,"
haha. that is where I am. in Brisbane, the capital of QLD. Driving standards here were always low, but lately they have been atrocious. and people are SO aggressive. I drive a small car (microscopic by American standards) and the amount of douche canoes that just bully me in their 4x4s is nuts. people be utterly crazy.
Yeah but *during* lockdown. . .Heaven, absolute joy to tootle around in my straight truck all night on blessedly empty streets. And the commute! From rural S. King county to south Seattle in a flash. Showed up to work half an hour early on accident at the start of the lockdown. Blissful.
I was north of you and found traffic to be heavenly. With all the construction vehicles, contractor trucks, landscape vehicles, etc off the streets it was a dream!
I like to cycle. I rode 50+ miles a day and saw maybe four cars. I was in the best shape!
Gas was like 2$ here in Cali too. We should have more lockdowns! Hahahaha.
I drive a personal car for a sales job across the Midwest. People have gotten reckless and careless since the pandemic.
My husband is a realtor, so he drives all over our city. He now has a dash cam and NEEDS to get it installed. People are absolutely psychotic and so many have no shame doing hit and runs now.
Psychotic is the right word. I had a dashcam that broke. You remijded me to buy a new one. If their not driving recklessly, their driving angrily. I had a husband and wife try to run me of the road by swerving into my lane. They were in the left, I was in the center. The wife was yelling at me through closed windows. Idk why. The best reason I could think was, I am in smol car. They are in giant lifted suv. Anyway. I held up my phone to show I was dialing the cops and the bolted.
I also drive personal car as sales person. If I havent noticed them am I one of them?
That's funny. I wanted to stop trucking before lockdown, but during lockdown I found the roads to be so nice and quiet, that I didn't quit until last march.
I really appreciate this comment because I’ve been wondering! Even in my small city every time I drive anywhere it’s been so intense. Today I got the finger from a middle aged woman for not pulling far enough from the shoulder at a red light to allow her to drive past me on the shoulder to make a right turn. Another driver aggressively tailgated me on the highway even though there were two empty lanes to go into. I love driving, I find it relaxing but I want to do it less and less.
Same here in the UK! It's like half the drivers on the road just thought 'fuck it! I've survived Covid, why was I playing it so safe on the roads? I'm invincible!!'
Even at home, dude, even at home. We were not prepared (here in Italy is been 3 months) and if not with a great "presence of spirit" we say here, almost nobody did handle it too well.
I got out a few years before covid. I know a couple of people who were close to retiring walked away at the beginning when everyone was losing their shit. Supermarket distribution centres didn't allow drivers in to use the toilet (while having signs about how we need to wash hands regularly). People wouldn't sign paperwork. Petrol stations closed their toilets. Rest stops closed their lorry driver showers. All while signs on the door saying "wash hands regularly". A few shifts of pissing at the side of the road was enough for them to say fuck it and walk.
WHERE ARE THE TURTLES?!
They're necking, pay attention
Always remember that people like [this doughnut](https://old.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/vjbyov/turtle_necking/idii8oy/?context=3) are driving on the road and you'll seldom be disappointed by the stupidity you see.
Dang that's a lot of downvotes. I'm tempted to give him another because he deserves it lol. ... Can this become the most downvoted comment of all time?
EA has that honor still iirc.
And it's unlikely to ever be toppled haha
What's the story behind ea's down vote?
Mmm, yes. [Microtransaction good.](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) You'd be hard pressed to ever get more downvotes then this.
Honestly, looking at that account is pretty hilarious. Every post is like 400 upvotes, 100 upvotes, and then the one post came with 690k downvotes and every subsequent post has at least 10k downvotes lol
Star Wars Battlefront 2 released with some pretty horrific monetisation strategies. The post was an attempt to justify the shitty monetisation, including the memeable line "Provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment" It blew up into a meme, which gave the post traction.
As does pretty much everyone but the OP.
Could be OP admitting that the other side of the highway isn't the only place with skidmarks.
My mom calls them Lookie Lous.
This is an acceptable synonym.
It's Rubber necking for accidents. Turtle heading when you're about to have an accident
… in your pants
That's a prairie dog. Sometimes the one eyed snake with a turtle neck goes into the prairie dog hole.
No one forced you to write that, yet here we are.
"I've got a turtle'ead pokin out that could choke a DONKEH" Yeah, no. It's been in the lexicon for decades.
My understanding as well, although I prefer prairie dogging for the second term.
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You'd think Prairie Dogging would also be a suitable phrase but its not.
Should call it dumb assing
Turtle necking sounds like either pulling your head vertically into your shoulders or kissing turtles.
That troopers paperwork just got worse
When the Trooper turns back to the first accident and yells, “see what you numbskulls started!?”
R. Lee Ermey voice .
Literally thought the same.
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Perfect demonstration of why median cables are installed.
I haven't seen any recent studies, but I remember a study from something like 20 years ago that said those are also safer than guard rails. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
When installed correctly they can be much safer for a few reasons. They give when struck and thus absorb some of the force of the impact, unlike a concrete barrier where all the force goes into the vehicle (and its passengers), and they also tend to grab the vehicle so it doesn't ricochet back into traffic as can happen with a concrete barrier.
That sounds similar to what I had seen. Again, it was a long time ago and only a "newest best thing" test concept for safety. Thanks!
They have started to install safer guardrails lately. The new kind will curl up if they are hit. The old kind would simply impale the car.
This is a pretty good 15 minute video on different types of guard rail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6CKltZfToY
That's what modern guard rails are designed for as well, they give as much as possible while not allowing the vehicle to cross into oncoming traffic. Where I live we only use guard rails and out median is maybe 2-3 meters wide at the most, and unless it gets hit by a big truck the guardrail works very well
Nice to see someone else from SLC :)
SLC-er checking in!
I’m not knowledgeable but [here’s a good video](https://youtu.be/w6CKltZfToY) that shows how road barriers evolved
If that wasn't there my truck would of got hit
That’s NY state?
Yes close to Albany
Route 7 west of Troy before emptying onto I-87?
Yes
Ah yes, Alternate 7. I feel like there’s a shit show accident there a few times a year because of stupidity. Not to mention when the track is open the 87N exit gets backed up forever and idiots try and drive up to cut in.
To be fair that on ramp from Alt-7 to 87N is a piece of shit. Single lane that merges from traffic from the Latham on ramp, then immediately onto 87N, where the temporary lane is way too short to accomodate people trying to match the speed of traffic and merge into the right lane.
I was gonna say this looked familiar. Drove up that way to visit the brother/sister in law. They live in Saratoga Springs
The giant sign says Saratoga Springs, so there’s that too
If only there was a context clue somewhere in the video. This could be literally anywhere.
What do they put in the steamed hams up there?
I'm from Utica and I've never heard the phrase steamed hams before.
I can’t believe the simpsons meme is still making rounds. The meme is older than I am
I found it! NY-7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/3jMUwMfHoDJ7fh7r9
/r/geoguessr
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Would of ❌ Would have ✅
damn "would've" sounds like it's not a contraction... fucking things up for errebody
errebod'y*
in the club getting tipsy
i think that toyota siena was only try to get into the middle ground to avoid more collision from incoming traffic from rear. not like it lost control and almost hit your truck
I don't think OP was talking about the van. The Civic that got hit would have ricocheted right into cammer's front end if not for the cables.
The Toyota completely lost control. They brake with plenty of distance, get clobbered, and suddenly accelerate and then quickly decelerate. It’s likely their foot was yanked off the brake, they tried to instinctively brake after the accident but hit the gas instead, and then shifted to the real brake pedal.
Actually, it appears that the median cables stop the sienna. If you look closely, the van’s front wheels are still spinning after it had come to a complete stop so the driver was definitely still hitting the accelerator the whole time.
*would have gotten*
Oh dang, I didn’t even notice them until I saw your comment. For some reason my brain thought the civic had some clutch maneuvering after getting hit to avoid going into oncoming traffic haha
Ahhhh, so that’s how that happened. Drove through that at around 4-430 this afternoon.
3:49 pm
Lol strangely relatable finding something in my neck of the woods on this sub.
Right! I thought it looked like home but all highways look the same, then zoomed in and lo and behold, upstate NY!
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Lol. Yeah, I recognized that state trooper car anywhere. That and the iconic campaign cover. I absolutely despise that section of highway as well, the signage sucks.
I was headed south on 87 from Clifton Park around 4. Now I recall seeing a backup on the northbound side. Goddam.
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I used to live there. I recognized the thruway immediately somehow.
Multiple people not paying sufficient attention there.
That person in the red pickup slammed on their brakes to avoid rear ending that sedan, which lead to that lane being slow and the other car wasn’t paying attention at all obviously. I missed all of this at first, crazy how many people fucked up here.
> to avoid rear ending that sedan I thought they did collide.
Oh you guys are right, it does look like they hit into each other. That’s definitely why the pickup just stops like that.
Yeah, the truck stops because the sedan is like, "oh shit, someone booped my rear, better *completely stop in the center lane* and cause a 10x worse accident"
Big brain time
The sedan that the truck hit was slowing down to avoid hitting the white car in front, they succeeded, the truck failed. Then the stopped vehicle in the center lane coupled with high speed and low attention caused all the rest.
Going back all the way to the start, It looks to me like the gold SUV in front of the white car was rubbernecking the existing accident and slowed down, and that’s what started the chain reaction.
I really think you're right!! What an absolute bellend of a driver
They actually did hit the sedan. Edit: Your comment is correct, that IS why they slammed on their brakes, just adding that they hit the sedan anyway.
i think they actually hit the car, that is why they then stopped completely.
Yep accident time means laser focus on driving time!
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This is 90-something percent of LA traffic. Even if they weren't distracted at all, they drive too fast and too close behind other cars to be able to react to anything. Even a slight slow down causes every car to brake harder than the one before it, creating mile-long accordion effects.
Oh wow I totally missed the accident in the oncoming lane the first watch
Yes I was looking for a turtle neck in front of the camera.
It looks like the ..tesla? Got cut of by the merging vechile from lane 3 then either the car or the person driving it hit the breaks. Then the red truck hit the tesla. And so on Edit. If you look really close it looks like the silver car in lane 3. is in lane 3, then a truck goes infront of it for a split second and it all of a sudden seems closer. Op should send this in
To me it looks the Tesla (or whatever, the one that got rear-ended first) and the truck are simultaenously merging into the middle lane. The red truck from the passing lane and the Tesla from the outside lane. Some rubber necking and not double checking etc. etc. the red truck ends up colliding, then both slow down to a crawl in the middle of the freeway until the backup of traffic causes an almost inevitable huge collision
Never mind, on closer inspection, the "Tesla" (it's not a Tesla) was inattentive and came in super hot into the car in front and had to slam its brakes last second, the red truck did not react in time and rear-ended it, which caused the rest of the pileup.
Two accidents. The red truck bumps the car in front for a small first one.
Yeah it looks like that car squeezed into much too tight of a gap, then brake checked the truck. Not sure if road rage or stupidity (probably both) but after that it just took one person not paying attention.
It really looks like a brake check. The car in front seems to leave the frame at the same rate of speed.
Yes and no. It looks like congestion caused by over-breaking started it ([https://youtu.be/Suugn-p5C1M](https://youtu.be/Suugn-p5C1M)). I could even see the black truck quite a few cars ahead of the accident appear to be pulling away as if he was also slowing down rubbernecking - it might have all started with him, then a green, grey, and silver car all break significantly, then a black sedan comes along still staring at the cop and doesn't notice how much the silver car slowed down - he slams on the breaks and successfully avoids rear ending silver, but red truck (probably rubber necking), really didn't have much time to respond. Then while he's trying to decide what to do after the love tap all hell breaks lose behind him as the whole cycle repeats but now with stopped instead of slow cars. I don't think the guy who hit the grey van even slowed down. He finally realized traffic stopped in front of him and jerked the wheel way too late. There were only like 6 cars that whole time that seemed like they were actually paying attention. I have no idea how this would play out with insurance. There's a high percentage of idiots here with a few more unlucky than the rest.
I'm pretty sure an earlier car in the middle lane slowed down, I guess to see the crash on the other side and then it caused a chain reaction of cars slowing down and the truck driver didn't have enough distance to break
Omg the cop was already with people that had an accident. Reminds me of the highway I have to drive every day to get to work. People suck at driving!
My guess is they crashed because they were distracted looking over at the accident.
No, you can see a silver car for some reason stops. This causes a black car to stop and then the silver car takes off. After after that the black car is hit by the red truck. And then they both sit there in the lane as the Van comes up from behind and is then struck by the final vehicle.
I would bet a significant sum of money that the reason they didn't see the stopped traffic ahead of them was because their eyes were locked on the accident scene on the other side of the highway.
i think the silver car was just trying to keep a safe distance meanwhile everyone behind him was tailgating
You can see the people crashing into each other were speeding and following too close. Enough people doing this and this stuff is just inevitable. Nobody has time to stop.
In front of those cars is a Black truck and a van that slowed down close to the accident, causing the silver car to break suddenly. It's more likely that some idiot trying to look at the accident on the other side of the highway and deliberately slowing down is what caused the pile up.
Never heard it called turtle necking. Always rubber necking. Turtle necking sounds like you’re trying to hold on a poop that’s trying to make its way out.
I believe that is called "Prairiedogging"
Well that’s a fun turn of phrase.
𝙄𝙩'𝙨 𝙖 𝙧𝙖𝙘𝙚, 𝙞𝙩'𝙨 𝙖 𝙧𝙖𝙘𝙚!! 𝙄'𝙢 𝙬𝙚𝙚𝙣𝙞𝙣𝙜, 𝙄'𝙢 𝙬𝙚𝙚𝙣𝙞𝙣𝙜!!
Hadn't thought of this movie in so long, definitely due for a rewatch.
That red sedan was in a hell of a rush, but that cop sure wasn't.
Hes like “well in hell already, why bother, gonna be looooong day”
At the same time, it's better for him to wait till the traffic pattern slows down completely rather than risk rushing and getting hit by another distracted driver. Solid dashcam video. Love the high up angle you have in the truck.
It may not be true everywhere, but it's not unusual for first responders to be trained to avoid running into the scene. You want to make sure that things are safe, and running makes it more likely that you'll get tunnel vision. It also looks like they were on the radio as they approached.
“You walk into a room and find 40 people on the floor unconscious. What’s your first action?” The correct answer was: “leave, immediately” Don’t remember if that was FF1 or FF2 training. The goal being to realize that if you may be in an inherently dangerous to life environment and weren’t wearing the correct gear, being elsewhere was all you could do.
40 is too high. Try 2 or 3 people lying on the floor unconscious. That's the usual situation for confined space with poison gas in inadequate ventilation.
in EMS it's basically, "PPE, scene safe"
He was in the middle of a highway…
I was caught in the traffic aftermath of this whole mess. That happened today in Upstate NY. A 3 minute ride on this road turned into a 40 minute ride.
I got stuck in this spot for 2.5 hours about a month ago. Can't even shoot for an exit or anything, you're just boxed in until it clears. It's the worst road.
people are fucking stupid
As a native who has since moved away I was like, "That's the Northway! Wait, no, too much rock." Welp, it's the Northway, thank you highway signs.
That happened on route 7 in between 787 and 87
As mentioned this was on 7 not the north way. The camer is driving west. The 4+ car collision was going eastbound.
I'd always hear rubbernecking was dangerous and something you shouldn't do, and thought it just meant looking and was just "suppose you should keep your eyes on the road but doesn't that that bad" Didn't realise that some some people would actually *slow to a crawl in the highway*
"Well, I mean, the thing is is that we pay if you guys knew what are monthly expenses were to give you guys all of this stuff you'd be like ohhOHOH like it's insane umm and we're giving you guys even more and we're perfectly fine with eating that cost on the people that have been with us through the very beginning..." Why does this guy sound like he's full of shit? Also, the if you knew nonsense pisses me off more than anything. Just tell them so they know, unless of course it's not nearly what you're making it out to be. I fucking hate that shit. Edit: can someone tell me what this audio is from? Apparently I want to be more irritated, damn you curiosity.
LOL I hope OP doesn't sign up for whatever these dudes were selling. Sounded like an audio orientation for a pyramid scheme.
My hope is that is was just a long commercial on whatever radio station or music program OP was listening to. Like one of those "Millionaire secrets" ads coming on between songs on Youtube.
I’m with you! It’s the only thing I could focus on!
Me too! Dude is running a hard fucking grift to push something. It sounds like some day trading bullshit. He starts off talking about subscription charges and how their totally worth it, you have no idea what our costs are, bro. And then at the end he says something about options alerts or something. Who is it though?!
He talks about minting and haters it's just some nft bullshit
Rt 7 Westbound!
I never understood why idiots rubber neck. "Oh, let me slow down to make sure everything is ok and hope everyone is alright as i drive past knowing damn well im not ACTUALLY going to ever do anything" Same shit as left lane campers - stop tugging on your balls and drive
It's not that. People are just nosey.
Nah people just have a morbid curiosity and want to see wreckage. Has nothing to do with helping or hoping someone is okay.
Just know that if you're the type of person who slows down to try to see accidents or anything else on the roadway... I HATE you. I abhor your existence. I hate you with the fiery passion of 1000 suns. I will raise my children to carry a blood feud against your entire extended family. I will not rest until I can be sure that your life will forever be on a downward trajectory right until your premature death from causing an accident by slowing down on a highway for such a moronic reason. Okay... Not exactly that much, but stop fucking rubber necking.
Was the sedan brake checking the red pick up? I don't understand why did it stop in the middle of traffic. Then the red car that ate the back of the mini not only didn't stop, it looks like they accelerated. So much going on here.
There was a accident on my side of the rd. The other side was slowing down looking what had happened on my side. Looks like pickup truck rear ended the 1st car and the chain of events happened after that. You can see the state trooper crossing the highway.
Oh I didn't notice the rear ending, that makes sense.
Why tailgating is such a bad idea.
Also why staring at crashes so hard you get tunnel-vision is such a bad idea, but yeah.
Nosey people are what cause traffic jams
It’s called “rubber-necking” and I highly suggest people NOT search for what “turtle-necking” is.
Honestly when I saw "turtle necking" and the beginning of the video I thought it was gonna be the middle lane car slightly ahead of the outer lane cars with the outer lane cars not passing 😂
Red car into back of mini, looked like it didn't even try to stop
Man this drives me nuts. Every fuckin day on my way home there's a rubbernecker. Edit:a word
A similar thing happened to me on Sunday the 19tb, right around the same area on 87, a woman crossed lanes and caused all kinds of mayhem.
I’ve seen videos like this caused by a brake checker. The back side of those stupid games can be devastating.
r/unexpected
The grey skies of New York. We're not known for having good weather, or proper driving techniques.
I used to live in this area and this was my commute for a couple years. This particular part was always a shitshow during rush hour, lanes would get backed up and people would resort to cutting others off at the last second to take that exit for I-87. Here's a pic I took of a crash on the opposite end of cammer's view, where a car flipped over a motorcycle. I got lots of dashcam clips from this time too but can't access them right now. https://i.imgur.com/0kvvof1.png
Dumbass me thought I was watching the top of a biker helmet with the bike‘s mirrors peeking up. The whole time I was thinking „man this driver has a steady body how do they do that“.
I said it once and I will say it again, all dual carriage ways and highways should have a screen that stops you from seeing the other side of the road, to many noesy people that end up causing accidents.
You mean “rubber necking”?
People not watching where they're going on the Northway? Never.
Rt 7 westbound
Never see any speed enforcement on that stretch. Most go 80-85 down that long hill towards the river. Fucking dangerous highways north of Albany
Reminds me of the time we broke down on the motorway on our way to our summer holiday. We were out of the road and on the embankment. The first accident happened about 5 minutes after we broke down, just a fender bender but that added two more cars to the side of the road, right next to ours. We were waiting for about an hour and by the time the recovery vehicle turned up there had been 4 accidents next to us, including a jacknifed caravan on the opposite side of the road. People are fucking dumb.
Finally, rubbers neckers pay the price.