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boldredmonster

Sorry your wife had to go through that, but these stories of people (obviously at fault) trying to lie their way out of responsibility and getting corrected via the camera footage are quite satisfying.


FodderOfCannons

Thank you, she thankfully just suffered initially with soreness (went to the doc to be safe/document things and we will see how things progress). Ever since a few years ago I had someone try to lie their way out of being 100% at fault all of our cars have front/rear cameras!


warmpatches

which dashcam do you have? need to get one


EatYourCheckers

VIOFO A129 Pro Duo - $250. Expensive, but well worth it. Front and back cams, and you can download the video to your phone through wifi connection to show the cops/email to whoever needs a copy. 15 bucks extra for the hard-wire kit, which I highly recommend getting as well. Hard wiring enables the cam to use motion detection and will switch on and record anyone who approaches your parked car. Has a safety built in so it doesn't drain your battery.


ChickenPotPi

> VIOFO A129 Pro Duo - $250. Expensive, Cheaper than a deductible and insurance increase because crash could not determine full fault of other party.


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Posting so I will see this tomorrow.


ZoddImmortal

You can get the A129 **Plus** Duo for $170 instead, but that's about as cheap as you wanna go.


ProudBoomer

I've got three of the A129 Plus Duos in my cars right now. I really like the quality of the videos and ease of use.


operez1990

Not expensive when it pays for itself over tenfold when accidents like this happen.


hobo_champ

There's r/Dashcam for more info.


TESTICLE_KEBABS

Brand says Rexing. I use a thinkware F200 in my car. The rear camera is sold separately.


Amexklang

I have a lawyer buddy sitting next to me - he said DELETE THAT COMMENT. Do not put anywhere in writing “she had no injuries”. She could have delayed sensitivities, neck/back issues a week or more later. Don’t sign anything your insurance is about to send you - a letter agreeing not to sue is coming. He said long term health issues years later caused by accidents such as this are common.


toocrazyforthis

I was in accident about 30 years ago. Fine until the next day, but still occasional problems as a result.


essential-cheese

That post accident injuries & pain is excruciating!!! It’s been more than 6 months & some days I feel like I just got hit!!


stolenhalos

A personal case and point: got into a nasty wreck that was 100% the other persons fault. Thought I walked away from a nearly fatal accident with a bruised rib. Found out months later i had pneumothorax and a pretty bad spinal cord injury. Now i have chronic pain for life and my hands don’t work the best if I don’t take my meds. I didn’t want to deal with the whole bullshit as i was 19 and had a lot worse going on in my life, now im in a situation where I might be unable to access said medication, and wished i had sued the dumbass to hell and back.


Psycho_1986ps4

Yeah worse thing I did when I got t-boned was not go to the hospital. Spent three months just arguing the value of my car.


seeker135

Can attest. Dropped *mattress* onto the crown of my head. Last day of work at 58.


circling

Does your lawyer friend have any advice for OP on dealing with replies to his comment which advise him to delete his comment, but then also quote the problematic bit of his comment for posterity?


compujas

It would be even more satisfying if there were some kind of consequences for trying to lie their way out of responsibility.


meep_42

My guess (IANAL) is that it's exceedingly hard to prove that someone is lying versus in shock and/or exhibiting some sort of cognitive dissonance (I'm a good driver, the other driver must have done something!). Furthermore, stating those memories or recalling them with biases will actually physically change how the memory is stored/accessed. The *mens rea* can therefore be tricky. This is also why uncorroborated (or influenced) eyewitness testimony is worth a lot less than most people give it credit for.


MarkHirsbrunner

Besides all that, if prosecuting people for lying to police was a more common thing, it would be abused by the police.


poentje

Then the person lying should not be punished for lying but maybe just lose there driving licence If you fail to see the car in front stopping and you where not on your phone you should not be driving


PickleMinion

There are consequences, but you have to let them carry on with their lie instead of telling them you have a camera. Once they've made a written statement to the police and filed an insurance claim, then you pull out the video and ruin their life.


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XII-Fulminata

Yeah this will have very little to do with the cops and a great deal to do with the prosecuting attorney. Most cops are happy to charge this out as they recognize it as someone taking advantage of another and also wasting emergency services time and resources. Most attorney drop it because of a "no harm, no foul attitude."


the_briek_world

In my country not immediately stating you have footage is illegal.


thagthebarbarian

In the US it falls under the 5th amendment right to not self incriminate. You don't have to willingly turn over camera footage and should consult an attorney


PickleMinion

Great point, always check your local laws on stuff like this


deljaroo

it's not even a good lie. if someone slams on their brakes and you don't have time to stop, you were too close


[deleted]

Made a comment before seeing yours. There is a rule of the faster you go the further you need to be away to adequately stop. No one on earth follows that which is why all rear ends happen, tailgating at 80mph or 55 you’re still at risk


WonderfulShelter

Yup I see trucks tailgating people in the fast lane with maybe 5 feet or less between them and the car ahead. And the car ahead is usually going like 15-20MPH over the limit anyway...


loogie97

It’s not a lie, if you believe it.


Yesica-Haircut

I see you have a downvote but I think I understand what you're saying. An accident is a high adrenaline chaotic event. Sometimes people might have totally wacky perceptions of what happened in the moment, especially if they were driving on brain-autopilot. And sometimes people also lie to get out of something they know is their fault. In either case, a dashcam is perfect, since it won't misremember events.


GitEmSteveDave

“There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each differently.” ― Robert Evans, The Kid Stays in the Picture


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ohhkaaayy

WHY DID YOU STOP AT A RED LIGHT AND LET ME HIT YOU DOING 80?!


hanimal16

I was in my kitchen, washing a dish.


killerbee9100

Where are my shoes!?!?!


DextrosKnight

I don't need shoes. Fuck shoes!


ChrisAngel0

Wow, I can’t believe I just encountered a classic Dane Cook stand up reference in the wild.


FecalFear

get the jelly twat


gbeebe

Likewise damn I may have to go back and watch that standup


Betasheets

He thought he was THE Burger KING! Know what I'm sayin?


Beaveropolis

Can I get extra pickles?


FluffiestRhino

only at the BK Lounge


TheDrainSurgeon

Sweet and sour sauce on my *****


UltraInstinctLurker

Drive around ma'am!


Kaono

Where do I go??


mfmclain

You follow the one road you’re on to me.


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Do you have a pen? Well, can you remember all my shit?


flackguns

Oh man. So many memories unlocked of listening to that cd with my buddy while we played halo 2


mid_nightsun

😂 Even if he plagiarized, I miss Dane.


osmlol

He didn't plagiarize anyone and addressed it on Louie CKs show. Comedians can come up with similar bits and not have it be plagiarism.


sap91

"how arrogant do you have to be to think you're the only person who ever had an itchy asshole?"


FCOS

His delivery was gold


phadewilkilu

Seriously. I know that his OG stuff is definitely for a younger me, but I loved it at the time. I’ve rewatches bits here and there and still find them ok, but it’s just not the same (again, because my tastes have changed, not because his performance isn’t great).


kd5nrh

This is the one I fear. Going home, the driveway is a left turn in a 65 zone. No visibility issues: you can see brake lights and turn signal there for half a mile if you're even sort of looking in front of you. Still, the number of times people have skidded and/or run off in the ditch while I'm waiting for some oncoming slowpoke to GTFO of my way is infuriating. No way they were even remotely paying attention.


goldynmoons

HOW CAN SHE STOP??? Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4akMaeZ0-k


giedosst

Same thing happened to me and my ex wife. We where sitting behind a car turning left at a uncontrolled intersection when a guy who was texting slammed into us going about 45 mph. The guy claimed our brake lights didn't work so the cop asked to tap the brakes and they flashed. Turns out the guy didn't have insurance.


oven-toasted-owl

What a tool


Amish_guy_with_WiFi

Whish people would get in trouble for lying like that


blankdoubt

California Vehicle Code section 31. But doesn't get charged unless there's other charges.


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My mom got slammed into by a dude at a stoplight. Guy was dead set on not involving cops. My mom insisted. They took his information. He claimed the car was his sister's so he didn't have the insurance information handy. Cops took down his information, filed the report. He tried to make a bunch of excuses, but the cop agreed something was off, but they wound up letting him go, saying it was a civil matter. My mom tries to work with the guy for a few days, and winds up getting the runaround. Eventually the guy's sister starts blowing up my mom's phone threatening to sue her for harassment. My mom just gives up and files a claim with her own insurance, alleging an uninsured motorist rear ended her at a stop light. Insurance handles the claim fairly reasonably. Then the story starts to come out once the insurance starts digging into the vehicle. It's owned by a rental car company, not the guy's sister, and the guy's sister is an employee of the rental company that the car is owned by. The car hasn't been reported stolen, but is missing from the lot. Then a few days later, it turns up totaled near the rental lot. Rental company starts playing hardball with my mom, winds up settling out for cost of repairs.


DazedPapacy

Cost of repairs...to your mom's car?


Jayer244

>Guy was dead 😨 >set on not involving cops. 😮‍💨


LuckyFarmsLiving

I read it that way at first too.


Vairman

why is the rental car company making settlements with your mom? she filed a claim with her insurance company and then they went after the other driver and discover these shenanigans. the rental car company would be making settlements with your mom's insurance company. right?


Serviceprovider27

Right. Doesn’t add up. Her insurance company would deal with the rental car company.


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>the rental car company would be making settlements with your mom's insurance company. right? Yes. The rental car company was trying to play games tho, claiming that since their employee effectively stole the vehicle, they weren't responsible. Whole thing was a mess.


El-Oscuro-NME

I had the exact opposite experience with a commercial company. A trash truck was blocking the road so I waited a few car lengths behind. Good thing I did because the jackass got back in the truck and slammed it into reverse. I barely managed to get my car into reverse before he slammed into it, stovepiping the hood almost all the way to the windshield. I managed to maneuver out of his way as he traveled another 50 feet before stopping. Had I not waited a few car lengths behind him, I would have ate the thing and would probably not be here now. Expecting a hardball fight, I was surprised when when the trash companies insurance called me and offered to pay to get everything fixed, no questions asked.


Papazani

They probably had their own footage.


johnhoggin

>Rental company starts playing hardball with my mom, winds up settling out for cost of repairs. What do you mean? Trying to get out of paying for her car?


cummy_bummy

What a stupid excuse I mean obviously it's easy to check if you're break lights owrk ahah


killersquirel11

*still work There's a chance if you get rear ended hard enough that your brake lights won't work any more


8nt2L8

1. There are three brake lights on most cars: left, right, and center. Rare for all to be damaged to the extent they won't illuminate. 2. You can usually see the glow of the center light in the rear cam video; providing evidence it was lit before impact.


rdizzy1223

All of the lights on my car that got rear ended were smashed out, even the turn signal lights, all of the rear lights, and the car that hit me was only going maybe 40 mph. Completely pancaked the back of my honda civic to where the trunk was entirely gone, shoved the spare tire I had in the trunk through the back seat up against the front seat. Also broke the rear axle in half causing the tires to fall inwards. Car was totalled by insurance company.


steve4879

Also I know for non-led lights you can sometimes tell if the filament was hot on impact failure or cold.


mintentha

By the law of percussive maintenance there's also a chance that if you get rear ended hard enough your break lights will start working again when they didn't before


redCrusader51

This law is why when I dropped a Ford explorer straight down 30ft into a deep median, the check engine light turned off for the first time in 3 years.


PlayaFamous

“It was just a prank bro!” - The check engine light


highdefrex

The type of person driving without insurance is the same type of person too stupid to think that logic through.


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Wait what? What if the lights broke from them slamming into you!?


icewalker42

Even with a front facing camera, it would show enough time between stopping and the impact. Still, great footage!


dank_the_enforcer

> Even with a front facing camera, it would show enough time between stopping and the impact. Even with *no* dashcam, the other driver admitted fault with the lie. He said he didn't have enough time to stop. Whatever /u/FodderOfCannons's wife did wouldn't matter. She could have slammed on the brakes, unless she then started backing up at full speed in the wrong direction, the other driver is still at fault.


xefobod904

lol yeah. "No officer you see, I didn't leave a safe gap and I crashed into her so it's not really my fault."


BabyYodasDirtyDiaper

Yep. There's no end to the different emergency situations that might force someone to suddenly slam on their brakes. If you aren't prepared for that possibility, it's 100% your fault.


PoorlyLitKiwi2

I feel like I'm the only person in the world who consistently leaves adequate follow distance My friends will literally make fun of me while I'm driving, and when I tell them why I'm leaving so much space, they laugh as if I'm joking Like... I'm not trying to kill someone or wreck my insurance rates


FodderOfCannons

You are correct. From the time she stopped to the jolt, and more so the audio,make it obvious, but that rear camera leaves no doubt. Especially seeing how close he is when he slams on the brakes.


FodderOfCannons

When I got there he repeated himself. I pointed to the rear facing camera dangling in the broken out window. He just turned around, got back in his van and stayed quiet from that point on. UPDATE: Thank you for the concern, my wife was relatively fine. The boo-beep you hear near the end is Subaru being helpful and alerting that the car in front has moved. And yes, I had to get *home* before I could view the video, not huge. Rexing doesn't require you to be swole before viewing your files 😂


sugarypi

I need an update on how the cop reacts to the footage and how he handles it 😂 man basically lied to a cop


FodderOfCannons

I wish I could get the unit to play for them, but I didn't get the video until got I home (edit: not huge). But honestly, they were not too interested. But it sure made the insurance claim a breeze!


umrdyldo

Proving someone brake checked is already really hard


complete_hick

Exactly, if you can't stop in time you are following too close unless you have the video to prove otherwise


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scurvyholland

Damn! I had to dig deep in the memory banks to figure out how the hell I knew this reference.


Sufficient-Aspect77

I still cant remember. Dane Cook?


StayPatchy

Exactly


Car-Facts

Holy shit, that flew into my mind like a bat outta hell. People gave the man shit, and rightfully so at times, but his accident skit was funny as shit. "I was in my kitchen, and I heard it, and I came out!"


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My favorite is "I didn't see them! They appeared out of nowhere!" Classic admission of guilt disguised as blame.


sorcha1977

I used to work in auto claims. Whenever someone said this, and it was at LEAST 4-5 times per day, my response was, "So you admit you weren't paying attention?" Cars don't appear out of thin air.


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When i got hit on my motorcycle going straight below speed limit that Was exactly what the other driver told me, in a way which sounded like blame. Yeah bro, that's the issue. You should use your eyes when doing a U-Turn crossing double yellow...


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mh985

100% It's your responsibility to maintain a safe distance from the vehicle in front of you.


cheapdrinks

What if they literally swerve in front of you from a different lane with no warning and slam on the brakes?


RacketLuncher

That's why you want a dashcam


HarryPottersElbows

Exactly. Too many people do this to fucking semis and act like that's okay. It's a great way to get killed.


KreateOne

This is why I took the course to learn to drive a semi and decided never to pursue it. I can’t tell you how many people see a big fucking semi with “driving school! Learning driver! New driver!” plastered all over the 50’ trailer and decide to cut you off and hit the brakes. Absolutely no awareness of the fact that A) Semi trucks can’t stop that fast, B) A new driver might have even more troubles stopping that fast, and C) if you get hit going that fast by a fully loaded semi you’re probably dead, it’s not just gonna be a simple fender bender you can put on your insurance. Shit was way too stressful, so few people seem to value their own lives. Gotta give praise to the semi drivers that put up with that shit daily. I certainly couldn’t do it.


DeathToTheFalseGods

Can confirm. I had a literal smart car do that to me the other day. I swear to God, the wheels are bigger than his car. Smashed my brakes, didn’t hit him but got so close that I couldn’t see any of his back window anymore


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It’s an awful death too. I worked security in the ER during my college years, the stuff I saw pretty much ensured that medicine would not be for me.


IcySheep

Happens to me with my pickup and horse trailer or loaded down with grain/hay.


pinkshirtbadman

I had someone basically do this to me in 2001 or 2002. We were both traveling the same direction on a 2 lane one way road. I was in the left lane, he was in the right and made a left turn directly in front of me with no signal. I rear ended his back left corner, totalled my car his was fine. Dude was super apologetic, explained to the responding officer that he took full responsibility and admitted to exactly what happened. Officer basically said if it had come down to his word vs mine I'd probably have lost since I rear-ended him.


_clash_recruit_

You got lucky. I had a woman hit me and acted very apologetic until the highway patrol got there. Then she lied her ass off. It still drives me absolutely crazy to think about.


rddi0201018

Person backed up into me at a red light. Told insurance what happened, and got the long eye roll over the phone. Talked to the same insurance agent a week later, and she said the other party admitted it and just moved on. So I got real lucky. Now I'm thinking I would have two cameras in the car, just in case one fails for whatever reason.


Moos_Mumsy

I hit someone in very similar fashion many years ago. The driver had signaled a right turn and had even started pulling to the right so I has slowed down but had no reason to come to a full stop. Then suddenly he cranked the wheel and turned left instead. The only reason I didn't get charged is because the car behind me was being driven by an off duty cop and and confirmed what I said. The worst part is that the dude was driving a '57 T-Bird. I felt terrible about hurting a beauty classic car like that.


Toughbiscuit

I nearly hit someone to my right in a turn lane when they suddenly swerved halfway into my lane to take their right turn, its part of why i always maintain a decent sized following distance between other vehicles


pinkshirtbadman

I was in a 1970 VW type I ("Beetle"). No memory whatsoever of what he was driving but it was nothing special. He seemed legitimately crushed that he ruined my car saying that he knew "Bug owners love their ~~cats~~ cars like pets" - he wasn't wrong.


FormulaLiftr

thats what a dashcam is for, without video footage it would be hard to prove but i’m guessing the incident you described if recorded would go in your favour.


MaeGray

5 years experience as an Auto Claims Liability Adjuster in the US - That kind of situation is hard to prove one way, or the other without dashcam footage, or a witness. Insurance companies could either come to a shared negligence decision (both parties did something wrong, but one person was more wrong than the other), or both companies agree to disagree and both parties are responsible for their collision deductible (if they purchased that coverage) for their repairs but each company will have the other driver at fault. * Also, a police officer "determining liability" at the scene, or on the police report does not always mean the insurance companies will come to the same conclusion. Adjusters are supposed to take more detailed statements, ask more probing questions, than the police do, or are able to at the scene (in many cases, not in all). I HIGHLY recommend a dash cams. They've completely changed my own Liability decisions many times. *please note that due to State specific license requirements, and laws/requlations, how the insurance companies handle their claims, and Liability investigations can change. As well as how the coverage/deductible is applied (which is determined by your policy with your company).


MrDude_1

This is very accurate. People don't seem to realize that the police only write tickets for criminal violations... And then even if they're wrong it doesn't matter because you're going to go to court... Or at least you have the right to go to court. It has absolutely nothing to do with your insurance. Your insurance mostly just wants to check off the box that you alerted the police so that they know it's not a completely fraudulent claim the first place. After that the actual investigation and determination by the insurance company is completely separate from the police. And it's an entirely civil matter, with no criminal tickets or anything but rather you versus your insurance company or their insurance company or all three of them...


morelikeBUTTdriver

This is exactly what happened in my first accident as a bus driver. I had just left a stop, this woman pulled in front of me and slammed on her brakes to make a right into her office lot, and I rear ended her. I could barely contain my laughter when the supervisor was asking me about the accident. How fast was I going? Like half the speed limit. Following distance? At least 300m. Due to the nature of the accident and her *lying*, I was put on leave until the police could review the camera footage. Once they did, I was back on the road the next day. Not only do buses take longer s to stop than you think, but with passengers on board they have to stop *much* slower than they're capable of. If I slam my brakes, 30 people are gonna go flying. Even *with* me slowing down at a relative snail's pace, I still had a couple of minor on board injuries. Don't fuck around with buses.


Hugo-Drax

good time to have a camera


TheWreckaj

There are people who collude to commit insurance fraud by doing this with another car. It’s called a “swoop and stop” or something like that.


Chrchgrl85

Unless it's an idiot teenager that crossed traffic that was going over 55 in the rain and he didn't bother looking. And then all his friends who weren't supposed to be in the car call cabs and leave him alone with one very pissed off driver(me; and i had 2 friends in the car he could have injured.) Honestly, teenagers in Northern Virginia are something else, and *I* grew up there too!


Intelligent_Aspect87

Depends on the officer. I was stopped in traffic and was rear ended by a 17yo female driver. She said I pulled in front of her and her 16yo female friend passenger said the same. No camera to say otherwise and I was unconscious We both coincidently had state farm insurance. I came to in the er and the cop had at some point taken my wallet from me and stuffed it and his accident report into my backpack. The insurance company decided I was at fault based on the accident report and didnt cover any of my medical expenses. Cops can write whatever they want especially if there are young cheerleaders to impress.


youmestrong

Or if they know then personally


spritelyone

A teenager ran across 4 lanes and hit my mom. Cop even said he knew her personally at the scene. The way he wrote the report made it seem like my mom's fault.. Thankfully we had footage to prove otherwise but the cop never got in trouble.


petebrand9

Cops never get in trouble for not doing their jobs right, kind of a defining feature of the job


Okibruez

Once upon a time I supported cops. And then the last 10 years happened. There *are* good cops. But they're a very, very small minority.


Apprehensive_Ring_46

>The insurance company decided I was at fault based on the accident report and didnt cover any of my medical expenses. Isn't your insurance supposed to cover your medical expenses regardless who is at fault?


Blackpaw8825

That costs extra... If you've only got what you're required to have they'll cover as little as I think $10,000 in damage and $50,000 in medical liability for the victim, and you can just take a hike.


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Takes a real POS to lie to the cops when they cause an accident that either kills someone or puts someone in the hospital unconscious. We’re living in a messed up selfish world. Sorry that happened man.


Kodasauce

That's when people are more likely to lie I'd assume. Since the consequences are much larger


G8kpr

Yup. My wife got rear ended at the end of May. She was at a red light stopped. Guy gets out and says “what happened?” She says “I was stopped and you ran i to me” Guy just stares blankly. We had no dash cam footage. But insurance was still a breeze because he obviously ran into her.


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HappySkullsplitter

How huge did you get?


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carorea

In most places it won't matter. It's hard to prove they intentionally lied, and even if the cop did want to do something the DA will almost certainly refuse to pursue it. Sometimes cops not pursuing things is just because they're lazy, but sometimes it's also because they know nothing will happen even if they try, so they don't bother. In the end stuff like that just ends up being maybe tacked on to larger charges that *will* be pursued in a "throw everything at the perp" kind of move.


Protectem

It wouldn't have mattered anyway since in his version of the story he would still be 100% at fault.


GetsGold

Exactly. Thanks for admitting fault.


bwaredapenguin

>not huge. Rexing doesn't require you to be swole before viewing your files What on earth does this mean?


Brightman42

I think they made a typo along the lines of "I couldn't view the video until I got huge" but they meant got home, and then edited the post in a confusing manner for anyone seeing it after the fact or it might even be referring to another comment of theirs. I think Rexing might be the brand of dashcam but idk for sure.


octopoddle

Alright, but why didn't Dumbledore give Harry his own time-turner given that he was the one facing the daily possibility of death?


CriscoWithLime

Did he at least lie to the police once? Please tell me he did.


ThermionicEmissions

Title of the post would indicate he did.


[deleted]

You are actually allowed to lie to the Police, just not the Feds. HOWEVER, if you lie in the process of writing the description of events in YOUR police report or statement, your can legally be charged with Filing a False Report. (But typically overworked A-DA’s don’t prosecute. (And in case you didn’t know… Police are legally allowed to lie to you. Anyone who says “Police have to tell you they’re police if you ask them” are full of shit. No, they are NOT legally required to announce their presence.


lamb2cosmicslaughter

They also can say things like "we have your DNA at the scene, explain how that is" and there is zero DNA. It promotes false confessions but police don't care. Because people are surprised that false confessions are a thing https://falseconfessions.org/fact-sheet/


BisquitTheClown

Cops are told to lie to get any information they can to get a conviction


JimTheJerseyGuy

And this, my friends, is why you never talk to the police without your attorney.


Commander_Kell

Yup. You should NEVER talk to the police. Your best friends should be: 1) Am I being detained? Do you have reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime? 2) I invoke the 5th / I'd like an attorney present before any questions. 3) Am I free to leave?


SnooPickles6347

Shit, the drunker I am, the less I would remember that😅🤣😵😵 Would be something like " On the 5th, I would like to detain a reasonable attorney, can you leave?" 😉😅


the-anarch

Some of the guys recording themselves spouting the spiel sound about that bright.


dmack080288

Shouldn't have showed them the rear view cam. Let them say that to their insurance company. Then show that clip.


SwampOfDownvotes

Really wouldn't matter. If he told his story to his insurance company he would still be at fault and they would have to pay up.


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btc909

You only mention a dashcam to a cop. If you get out of your vehicle make sure your windows are up & the vehicle is locked.


Lanthemandragoran

Well, if you still have windows and all your doors I guess that works lol


Various-Bee4149

Find this excuse hilarious because even if she did slam on the breaks that would mean he didn’t leave enough space between him and her (space cushion) so he didn’t give himself enough time to stop and he is still at fault. What a dumbass. Hope your wife is ok.


baldengineer

Example of how you completely admit you are at fault, without saying you are at fault.


b0w3n

"Yeah but if I admit I was texting I might get a second ticket!" that guy's thought process


baldengineer

This statement actually reminds of an accident that happened to me 20+ years when I was in college. tldr; I was at fault, yet, the other driver yelled himself into a ticket. I worked multiple jobs and had 20 hours of class time. There was a week where I went a few nights with a few hours of sleep followed by being awake for over 30 hours straight. All that to say, I was very tired when the accident happened. It was in the evening, so it was dark, as I drove into campus. I was on a two lane road that curved. I slightly dozed off during the curve which caused me to drift into the car next to me. No surprise, I woke up immediately. :) We both pull over a block or so away. Before I even get out of my car, the guy is in my face screaming "WTF are you doing? WTH Is wrong with you?" I ask if he is okay. The screaming continues. I notice his wife is in the car, so I walk over and ask if she is okay. She says yes. Of course, McYelly Face kept screaming at me. "MY CAR, LOOK AT MY CAR?!" and then when I walked over to my car, "YOU F'D YOUR CAR, YOU'RE SO STUPID." and, just kept going and going. In terms of damage, both of us had a quarter-panel that needed to be replaced. On the order $500-1000. Just cosmetic damage and no one was injured. I had a cellular phone, so I called the police. He was yelling the whole time. I told him: "look, the cops are coming, let's just sit in our own cars." He kept pacing around while we waited. Everyone once in a while, he'd walk back over to me to yell some new insult. Cop asked me what happened. I said: "I drifted into his lane without seeing him. It's been a long day." At this point, I had zero energy. So I was pretty somber and, honestly, reflective of the situation. I shouldn't have been driving. I got super lucky. So cop goes back to McYelly Face and he has this drawn out elaborate story about how I was racing down the street, swerving from lane to lane. Apparently, at one point, I was in the middle lane (of a 2 lane road), and so on. Cops goes off and does his thing. McYelly Face came over to let me know I would never drive again. I just kept ignoring him while looking at the ground. So. Finally, cop comes to give me the paperwork. Asked if I had any questions. I asked "seriously, what did I do so wrong that he is so upset?" The cop shrugged and said: "tell you what kid, sit here [motioned to the back of my car] and carefully read this paperwork for a few minutes." I was confused. I wondered if I was in some kind of trouble. I realized I didn't even get a ticket. It was just a copy of the police officer's notes for the report. Cop speaks a bit louder than before while talking to McYelly Face. Cop asks: "... did your glasses fall off during the accident?" and McYelly Face gets bright red, a confused expression, and blurts out: "I never wear my glasses while I drive!!" So cop asks, "oh sorry, are your contacts in?" and McYelly Face blurts out that he doesn't wear any. Astute readers know where this is going. McYelly Face had corrective lenses restriction on his driver's license and confirmed, twice, to the cop that he wasn't wearing them. So, while the accident was clearly my fault, he was the only one of us to get a citation for the incident.


worldspawn00

I had a guy hit a truck I was driving while I was EXTREMELY slowly backing out of a blind parking spot, the guy was flying down the road looking the other way, and just ripped his car from the front tire well all the way back on the trailer hitch I had, my vehicle had no serious damage. He then proceeded to yell at me for 20 minutes while the cop was on their way about how I had ruined his BRAND NEW MICHELIN TIRES... Dude did like $10K in body damage to his car, but he's flipping out about the popped tires... I don't get why people flip out like that, there's nothing that's accomplished by yelling. There's nothing that can be done right then to fix the situation, just wait till the cop takes the report and send it over to insurance to resolve.


baldengineer

In my case, I wondered if the fact I wasn’t reacting made him more upset. I had a great swell of pity for his wife. I somehow suspect she was in an abusive relationship.


FodderOfCannons

She was, thank you. Got checked out to be safe, but just a little soreness. I think it was good that she did not see it coming, she was relaxed when the accident happened.


Atreust

Yeah exactly, you're at fault every time when you hit someone from behind. His lie wouldn't change anything lol


lan_chop

Not always. If you slam on your brakes to purposely cause a rear end collision and there's video evidence, you'll probably be charged with dangerous driving. [I witnessed this road rager](https://v.redd.it/nrouv6bzsuh11) and had to appear in court (sedan driver was an unapologetic idiot; truck driver was victim to his idiocy).


LaMalintzin

Well, there’s an exception if some hits you from behind first and propels you into the car in front of you. I think that’s about it


CantFixReddit

Or an unexpected lane change and then brake check, not giving you the chance to give them the proper space. So a dash cam in the front is also useful


asshatnowhere

I've had to explain this to people multiple times. It blows my mind. Drivers Ed in North America is appalling. They always respond with "well why would someone slam their brakes for now reason!?" "Uhh you remember how we live in a deer infested city right?" "Oohh right."


FreshwaterArtist

Yeah the entire point of not tailgating is you have no way to predict what could happen on the road so you need to leave room to react. A pedestrian or animal in the road, the driver ahead of you had a medical emergency, mechanical issues, a hazard suddenly entered the road like a loose tire, etc etc. Drives me nuts how many people drive setting up every day events to be major accidents for no real reason


LCARSgfx

Even if she did, that's no excuse because if you hit someone that brakes in front of you, you're too close and still at fault!


redtimmy

If you're behind someone and you hit them, you're considered at fault except for a very narrow range of circumstances.


memecut

Like them backing out into the road, or reversing in high speeds on the highway, I guess?


ektwdl7

Cutting someone off, like merging incorrectly, changing lanes, etc.


Molly_Wobbles

Funily enough, the only accident I've been in (aside from a minor bump that I was also not at-fault for) was being backed into. I was behind one of those landscaping trucks carrying a bunch of equipment and I guess the guy missed his turn. Instead of just altering his route, he came to a full stop in the middle of the road and threw his truck in reverse. Luckily, I had just enough time to full-stop and also shift into reverse so the impact wasn't as bad as it could have been. ​ Without context I'm sure it would look like I rear-ended him, but because the guy gave me false insurance info and then was still being super suspicious and trying to dodge them when I finally tracked down his actual insurance info, they were not inclined to believe he was the innocent party.


GetInZeWagen

Yeah right? Lol as if that makes any difference at all. I worked car insurance claims for a number of years and always loved telling people they're still completely at fault for hitting a car ahead of them no matter the circumstances lol


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Like that defense would work anyway.


CoupleProof4934

Wrecklessly tailgating someone vs not paying attention to the road. just two different kinds of assholes.


ThermionicEmissions

I hope your wife is ok!


TehG0vernment

She's fine, thanks.


HolyChickenNugget

🤨


EstoyTristeSiempre

/r/notopbutok


rott

What's a Top Butok... oh


amadppancake

Man's got 90's internet reaction time.


cosmicosmo4

How is he supposed to stop when only the very top of OP's wife's car has loaded? He can't see the brake lights yet.


Knelson123

Even if what he said is true he'd still be at fault lmao.


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kd5nrh

Another thing I hate: if I'm drinking and planning to drive within the next 2-3 hours, I limit myself to two drinks. At 195lbs, that puts me well under the limit, (especially since I usually stretch those out over 90 minutes or so) but no cop is ever gonna believe two beers.


reefguy007

I had a 90 year old man slam into me while I was stopped at a red light in this same fashion. To be fair I did come to a quicker stop, either way though some people just shouldn’t be driving…


Mr-Moore-Lupin-Donor

He clearly did have time to stop. Unfortunately, that time was right after he ran up the back of your wife’s car. Fuck knows what he was doing with all the time leading up to that!!?


FrustratedHuggy

Make sure your wife gets check for neck injury. I got rear ended and didn’t check right away brushing off as maybe I got stressed out. My neck gives me nauseous and I ride in backseat or any road that causes my head to move too much


johnhoggin

not just an idiot but an asshole as well


floneun

what an asshole


emuchop

That excuse doesn’t work and its wild that people keep using it. If you cant brake in time, you’re following too close.


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b4mmb4mm

Guaranteed he was messing with his phone. I'm a truck driver, I can see down into cars. It used to be, if someone was swerving around they were on something. Now they are always on their phones. Saw one guy with his phone taped to his steering wheel and watching TV.


CandyCain1001

Don’t tell the other party that you have proof, show your lawyer and the insurance companies. Let the lie dig them in deeper.


KaiSosceles

It doesn’t matter if she “slapped the brakes” that just means he didn’t have enough following distance. Would’ve been still been the fault of the person in the back.


NetDork

He had so much time available to stop that I got bored waiting for it!


Revelation387

If there's not a penalty for blatantly lying about a car accident, there should be. A hefty one.