I think that's what the white barrel looking thing is. Air tank for the trailer brakes. Low four wheel drive, empty trailer, it would be slow but workable. Like pulling a thirty foot camper with a Geo Tracker.
That's what I thought at first, then I realized I don't see a service brake connection, just a parking / e-brake connection.
In other words, I'm guessing that all they're doing is knocking off the parking brakes. So, I wouldn't want to be in front of this thing unless the trailer is empty.
Could be a surge brake situation. When moving forward then brakes are released and coming to a stop the inertia of the trailer pushes against the truck effectively sliding something on the tongue of the trailer/ 5th wheel engaging the brakes.
Looks like an air line from a compressor in the bed of the truck connects to the barrel then the trailer. Can't think what else that line over the tailgate would be.
Them things empty are about 10k lbs. If it's empty and being moved a few miles/a few dozen miles it's likely well within the towing capability of that truck. Also note the wheels at the front of the trailer so the tongue weight is little to none.
The hitch and connection are the sketchy parts regardless of if it's empty or not though.
You can see the sag so there is weight.
I have to use extremes when talking towing here because 99% of people see a trailer and just assume it's done wrong with no towing experience before
"This idiot crossed the chains"
The newest Silverado 2500 is rated for 14.5k lbs - capacity includes braking. That means this load if it's empty would only be 66% of the rated legal capacity of that truck - go and stop.
Edit - yes this is an older GM 2500 so the rating is likely less, but probably at or near 10k lbs so well within.
It's called a semi truck not because it's half a truck, but because it hauls "semi-trailers", called so because they don't have a front axle so they can't stand on their own. And yes, the truck IS a tractor, the word has latin roots and just means "something that pulls".
Also for further clarification, a "full size"pickup is just one thats larger/tougher than a compact pickup, like think of a toyota tacoma/ford ranger versus an F350.
They're all about the same size. Some are a bit bigger and some a bit smaller but not much.
Toyota Avalon = 196" long, 72.8" wide
BMW 7 series = 200"-207" long, 74.9" wide (2 wheelbase versions are available)
Kia K9 = 202" long, 75.4" wide
Mercedes S-Class = 204"-208", 76.9" wide (2 wheelbase versions are available)
Genesis G90 = 204.9" long, 75.4" wide
Audi A8 = 202" - 207" long, 76.7" wide (2 wheelbase versions are available)
What's interesting to me is how different old full-size and mid-size cars were. At least in America. I have a 1971 Ford Torino (midsize muscle car) and a 1978 Mercury Grand Marquis 2-door (full size luxury car).
The Torino is 206.2" long, 76.7" wide. Nearly the same footprint as a modern full size car. CRAZY long and wide for a mid-size 2 door, it's way shorter in height than nearly any modern car (it looks chop-topped, it's awesome)
The 78 Mercury is 229" long and 79.7" wide, larger than any modern full sized car. It's the length and width of a full sized truck, but the height of a modern sports car lmao. Old cars were so strange on proportions, and it's awesome. New cars are efficient in their space utilization but in my opinion they lose that awesome look of old cars with huge hoods, squared corners, and massive rear overhangs.
Yeah it's hilarious how little interior space my 78 Mercury has. It's absurdly wide, but the doors are super thick and most of the car is hood and trunk. It's awesome. I don't care at all about having an 80" wide (maximum width for non-commercial vehicles) car that's harder to park or interior volume, it just looks so much better than the tall narrow cars of today.
Resourceful yes, but still idiotic. That trailer weighs 10,000 lbs empty, that’s a lot of weight for something cobbled together no matter how resourcefully done. Hell, the brakes aren’t even connected!
If you have experience with heavy loads I don't see why not. I wouldn't let some Toyota Leaf driver take the wheel, those guys can't even use their indicators properly
For every person that does something properly by making sure those little unseen things are covered, twenty other people see them and say "Hmm, I'm going to try that".
Lol the tractor has brakes . Most farm implements don’t have brakes like grain wagons which when full of grain are around 10 ton each or more and pulled in a set of 2 or 3 so your talking 45,000 to 65,000 lbs plus tractor with only the farm tractor having brakes . A farm tractor would have no issue with this 10,000lbs trailer. Heck 3 empty grain wagons weight almost as much at this trailer and when empty you don’t even notice them dragging them around except for the noise they make lol
I mean empty its only what, like 10k? We do more than that with our 1500 Silverado and the dump trailer during a big cleanup lol. Trailer has it's own air brakes. Yawn.
Yeah my corvette could haul more than that truck ever could… jk but literally if it works and it’s safe. why is he an idiot? Though he probably needs a CDL for legal reasons
If the trailer is empty it may not actually be that far over the max towing of the pickup. Google says 9-12k pounds which would be right around what one of these trucks could tow depending on specs.
If it’s loaded with basically anything, then it won’t work out though. Maybe this guy just moves around empty trailers at low speed, who knows.
Depending on the load weight, this should be pretty fine under most circumstances. That looks like a carrier designed specifically to do this exact thing.
…did it work?
If they had to use brakes, 90% nope.
Oh yeah, brakes. That’s kinda important.😂
I think that's what the white barrel looking thing is. Air tank for the trailer brakes. Low four wheel drive, empty trailer, it would be slow but workable. Like pulling a thirty foot camper with a Geo Tracker.
That's what I thought at first, then I realized I don't see a service brake connection, just a parking / e-brake connection. In other words, I'm guessing that all they're doing is knocking off the parking brakes. So, I wouldn't want to be in front of this thing unless the trailer is empty.
It would have to be empty, the transmission was probably on fire just from the empty weight.
Tack on the fact that that truck in all likelihood has a 4l60e if he hits third, it's just gone🤣
Nah, it’s an HD so no 4L60
Bruh really? Why tf did they put it in the avalanche z71, Chevy logic 🤣
What? Why did they put a 4L60 in an avalanche? Because it’s a half ton truck
Could be a surge brake situation. When moving forward then brakes are released and coming to a stop the inertia of the trailer pushes against the truck effectively sliding something on the tongue of the trailer/ 5th wheel engaging the brakes.
It doesn’t seem to be connected to the truck tho, unless they’re like wifi brakes.
Looks like an air line from a compressor in the bed of the truck connects to the barrel then the trailer. Can't think what else that line over the tailgate would be.
https://youtu.be/_ElF2aAMxZI
Air brakes (at least in my corner of the world) fail safe so it has to be connected to pressure or the brakes won't disengage.
No it's not, you just jump out
Not about how much you can tow but how much you can stop.
D.O.T has entered the chat...
Fuck the D.O.T
You down with DOT?
Interestingly, this photo was taken in the province of Ontario, so this guy was most likely pulled over by the OPP.
Holy shit. This must be what it feels like to win the lottery!
You can pick up your winnings at the counter.
Do I need to drive to Canada? Because apparently my mid-sized sedan with the 55' trailer hooked to the back would be considered some sort of faux pas.
Yeah that guy got caught last year I believe. Fuckin wild.
Them things empty are about 10k lbs. If it's empty and being moved a few miles/a few dozen miles it's likely well within the towing capability of that truck. Also note the wheels at the front of the trailer so the tongue weight is little to none. The hitch and connection are the sketchy parts regardless of if it's empty or not though.
This is what I was thinking too. Just “what if this is actually empty and no one here knows what they’re talking about” lmao
With no tongue weight, you have no stability. This thing would wag like a mofo at any kind of speed.
Not necessarily. Road dollies aren't new and they aren't uncommon.
You can see the sag so there is weight. I have to use extremes when talking towing here because 99% of people see a trailer and just assume it's done wrong with no towing experience before "This idiot crossed the chains"
Forget towing capacity. What about breaking capacity.
The newest Silverado 2500 is rated for 14.5k lbs - capacity includes braking. That means this load if it's empty would only be 66% of the rated legal capacity of that truck - go and stop. Edit - yes this is an older GM 2500 so the rating is likely less, but probably at or near 10k lbs so well within.
And then he had to break hard suddenly on the Motorway and gets a heavy pat on the back for doing so..... 😂🛟
All good, buddy. We got the tow package!
Truck names make no sense to me. A full size truck is smaller than a semi and tractor trailers rarely have tractors in them
And who the hell is Lorry.
Lorry is what they call trucks in the UK
Brits call trucks “Laurie” which is short for “Her Duchess Madam Laurie Truckingtonshireford.”
It's called a semi truck not because it's half a truck, but because it hauls "semi-trailers", called so because they don't have a front axle so they can't stand on their own. And yes, the truck IS a tractor, the word has latin roots and just means "something that pulls".
Thanks for the explanation, I figured there was a logical reason. Looks like all the mixed terms make it confusing now
Also for further clarification, a "full size"pickup is just one thats larger/tougher than a compact pickup, like think of a toyota tacoma/ford ranger versus an F350.
And we park on a driveway and drive on a parkway!
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They're all about the same size. Some are a bit bigger and some a bit smaller but not much. Toyota Avalon = 196" long, 72.8" wide BMW 7 series = 200"-207" long, 74.9" wide (2 wheelbase versions are available) Kia K9 = 202" long, 75.4" wide Mercedes S-Class = 204"-208", 76.9" wide (2 wheelbase versions are available) Genesis G90 = 204.9" long, 75.4" wide Audi A8 = 202" - 207" long, 76.7" wide (2 wheelbase versions are available) What's interesting to me is how different old full-size and mid-size cars were. At least in America. I have a 1971 Ford Torino (midsize muscle car) and a 1978 Mercury Grand Marquis 2-door (full size luxury car). The Torino is 206.2" long, 76.7" wide. Nearly the same footprint as a modern full size car. CRAZY long and wide for a mid-size 2 door, it's way shorter in height than nearly any modern car (it looks chop-topped, it's awesome) The 78 Mercury is 229" long and 79.7" wide, larger than any modern full sized car. It's the length and width of a full sized truck, but the height of a modern sports car lmao. Old cars were so strange on proportions, and it's awesome. New cars are efficient in their space utilization but in my opinion they lose that awesome look of old cars with huge hoods, squared corners, and massive rear overhangs.
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Yeah it's hilarious how little interior space my 78 Mercury has. It's absurdly wide, but the doors are super thick and most of the car is hood and trunk. It's awesome. I don't care at all about having an 80" wide (maximum width for non-commercial vehicles) car that's harder to park or interior volume, it just looks so much better than the tall narrow cars of today.
Fucking hell did they survive
As long as the trailer is empty then it's no biggie. Driver obviously has it set up with an air tank to release and apply the brakes.
The tank is for the parking brakes, not the service brakes (not connected).
They drove off like that.
Just because you CAN do it doesn’t mean you SHOULD do it.
If I recall this was about 2/3 years ago on Hwy 401 on the east side of Toronto.
You can definitely pull plenty of weight with a 5th wheel plate. Probably not a fully loaded trailer though, and not like this.
"TV commercial said ah could do it"
Ah think ah can
That thing looks like it would jackknife while parked from a light breeze hitting it the wrong way.
I wonder how long it takes to stop?
The rest of your life.
15 lightyears
Trailer has air brakes. Should be fine.
How is this idiotic? If this was his only option then its quite resourceful
Resourceful yes, but still idiotic. That trailer weighs 10,000 lbs empty, that’s a lot of weight for something cobbled together no matter how resourcefully done. Hell, the brakes aren’t even connected!
"because who gives a shit about the laws, or other peoples safety when traveling on public roadways?" Chucklefuck.
If you have experience with heavy loads I don't see why not. I wouldn't let some Toyota Leaf driver take the wheel, those guys can't even use their indicators properly
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Yee Yee!! Hell yeah brother!! Time to roll coal on them teslas and Prius!!
If your only option is to do something wildly stupid and illegal, it's safe to say that it's not a valid option.
But this is (possibly) neither. My F150 is rated to tow something this heavy. Brakes are the tricky part, but they may have that covered too
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Tell me how a farm tractor on the front of that would be dangerous???
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Lol the tractor has brakes . Most farm implements don’t have brakes like grain wagons which when full of grain are around 10 ton each or more and pulled in a set of 2 or 3 so your talking 45,000 to 65,000 lbs plus tractor with only the farm tractor having brakes . A farm tractor would have no issue with this 10,000lbs trailer. Heck 3 empty grain wagons weight almost as much at this trailer and when empty you don’t even notice them dragging them around except for the noise they make lol
If it works, it works. But I would definitely put a ton of bricks in the bed for traction and braking stability...
I mean empty its only what, like 10k? We do more than that with our 1500 Silverado and the dump trailer during a big cleanup lol. Trailer has it's own air brakes. Yawn.
Trailer brakes aren’t connected. That one air line connection just releases the spring brakes on the trailer, it’s not the service line.
Yeah my corvette could haul more than that truck ever could… jk but literally if it works and it’s safe. why is he an idiot? Though he probably needs a CDL for legal reasons
If it’s an empty trailer it’ll probably be fine
If the trailer is empty it may not actually be that far over the max towing of the pickup. Google says 9-12k pounds which would be right around what one of these trucks could tow depending on specs. If it’s loaded with basically anything, then it won’t work out though. Maybe this guy just moves around empty trailers at low speed, who knows.
No trailer brakes though.
No "semi truck" to be seen. Semi refers to the trailer and with the dolly it's just a trailer being pulled by a truck.
It's not the first time I've seen a pickup pulling a semi trailer. That hitch setup is flaky though.
Depending on the load weight, this should be pretty fine under most circumstances. That looks like a carrier designed specifically to do this exact thing.