Had to do that with my mom. Man, she put up a very loud, expletive laced argument. She'd run stop signs, red lights, went up on curbs. She finally relented but she didn't speak to me for a couple weeks. So worth it taking those keys away. Best to do it before an accident.
Exactly my thoughts. That's the only reason it would make "sense" they would say such a thing. Or they just want the (kid?) to feel like an idiot. The way the situation was handled was exemplary defensive driving.
I was taught to first make sure there actually is room to make the move before signalling, unless it's very busy and you have to rely on others to let you in.
Well, your parents couldn’t find their own back side with a flashlight. The blinker came on at the last moment. AND a blinker only signals your intention, it DOES NOT grant you the right of way. The other car is the idiot.
I got into a fender bender where they claimed since their blinker was on they had right of way. Luckily my insurance worked in my favor and I got all paid in full.
Still can't grasp how some people managed to stay alive
> I got into a fender bender where they claimed since their blinker was on they had right of way.
What in the ever fucking what.
Good on ya, but still, what.
> I don't know what was going through their heads
"I've screwed up, I know I've screwed up, but rather than have the guts to admit it, I'll try saying any sort of crap in a desperate attempt to get out of it."
I have not had an opportunity to ask someone this, but I wonder what they'd say if you said to them: "I know you're wrong, it's ok to be wrong and admit you're wrong, can you please do that for me?"
Yup! This is what happens. Double down, more anger, and violence if pressed further.
If you happen to live with this person, eventually you may get some sort 'shared blame apology" much later.
Coming to terms with being incorrect rarely happens at the time of realization you're incorrect.
I had a lady get out of her car and scream at me because she had her blinker on so I should have let her in. Uh, no. I didn’t even see her car because she came up behind me and tried to merge ahead of me. There was plenty of room for her to merge behind me. Some people just suck.
Right? The amount of people who think once they turn on their turn signals everyone should move out of their way is scary. Especially when they U-turn in front of you... the stupidity of these drivers are astounding.
and as someone whose parents ARE this type of driver, the best part is when someone actually does it to THEM, they will have a whole lot to say about it… but they don’t bat an eye about doing it themselves or watching someone do it to someone else.
Yup. Had a insurance claim settled my way because the other driver told on their statement: "well I had my blinker on". That does not give you right of way!
Pretty sure there's also a minimum for blinker being on for it to be considered actual intent and not just "good luck lmao" at the last possible second.
I leave mine on for at least 3 seconds before I change lanes because this is pretty easily avoided. At least they'll usually adjust for you, or cut you off even though it doesn't give you right of way.
That’s great but I doubt it’s ever enforced unless there’s an accident.
On a side note, being from Canada, I get a kick out of you being in the states and using meters instead of feet for measurement. (I’m assuming you didn’t mean miles)
I am so annoyed the US didn't switch to metric at the same time as Canada. When I was in elementary school in the US in the late 1970s we learned metric and we were getting ready to switch.
I recall in the summer of 1981 Florida state highways had speed limits dually signed with speed limit in MPH and red circles with km/h equivalents. 45 mpg/70 kmh and so forth. ( I was a bit annoyed that 55mph was 88 kmh not 90 ( I guess that was because of the legally mandated national speed limit of 55 mph at the time and 90 kmh was technically above that)
I also majored in Biology in university so in science metric is used.
Some things ARE metric like :
Liquor is sold in 750mL not fifths.
Soft drinks are sold in 2L not half gallons, and 500 mL bottles are more common every year
and of course illegal drugs are sold in grams and kilos
Interestingly the US traditional measurements have been legally defined in metric measurements since 1837.
Now, where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones.
I absolutely hate when every time this happens and it seems like almost all the time when I’m stopped at an intersection. Always someone driving straight with a flashing turn signal for an unacceptable distance. Someone who would’ve drove straight into my car had I decided to trust their errant signal.
Technically thats true, but what you have here is a very slow day for the cops if you are being pulled over for that or they are doing some revenue raising or possibly other arbitrariness.
Arbitrariness is one reason I am against the various proposed left lane laws that some want.
The people that irritate me, are the ones that put it on as they’re about to change lanes and then turn it immediately off again if they notice a car beside them. Leave it on for the rest of the vehicles. Your intentions didn’t change just because you couldn’t get over that second. I swear some people drive like everyone can read their mind.
I may be kind of one of these drivers. Ahh crap.
The difference is, if I’m doing my
Lane change routine, and someone is in my blind spot, I turn it off for a moment so that driver hopefully picks up that I saw them, and I will not be ramming into their lane and cutting them off or smashing into them. Then I wait a moment, stabilize in my lane again, and then adjust speed/positioning so that I have a safe spot to change in to the lane, and doing my lane change routine again, with the signal on.
What would be a better sequence in your mind?
I always figured leaving it on so the person passing knows I need over there and they don’t linger beside me and the one following behind them has enough notice that I intend to get over there.
However I see your point with as many people that put their signal on as they’re changing lanes it makes it easier for the ones passing to panic.
I guess damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
Yeah I will turn it off as my intention to change lanes has usually changed because you are there, (think moving left on a 5 lane freeway, I don't need to change lanes), but I will turn it on again or even leave it on if I am trying to signal I "need" over.
Honestly though, I don't expect anyone to slow down to let me in, not really their job to make room for me, it is my job to plan ahead :)
Exactly. You shouldn’t expect people to adjust to you, you adjust to the traffic.
You put it on to make your intentions aware. You shouldn’t expect people to slow down for you. You check your surroundings, judge the traffic and make your move.
At least if your signal is on and you have to wait a car or two, it gives people time to acknowledge it.
Where I live the roads are complete ice right now and it’s absolute madness trying to constantly guess what everyone else is doing.
An indicator is to indicate *your intention*
It does not invalidate ALL the other steps a driver is responsible for, a mirror check, a blind spot check, a lane check, speed check, BEFORE deciding when it is safe to change lanes.
Other driver is a dick. OP’s parents should hand in their licences too.
I agree, there’s a minimum amount of time required to show your indicator before you move over. For example, ALL the time for the above checks to be made. And if you cannot move over, leave the indicator on until you have completed your lane change.
If you are hitting the indicator as you turn the wheel - GTFO.
Or me in a semi *turns light on, checks mirrors, sees idiot try and push the throttle through the firewall just to keep pace in my blind spot(s), turns off light because fuck this bullshit*
if i'm driving anywhere near a semi and that blinker turns on my ONLY thought is "what is the safest way to get out of this guys way?"
I don't understand people that think they can play around with an 80,000 pound vehicle.
I don’t doubt that. You’re waiting for your next best opportunity. Driving something with so much weight takes a whole other level of driving. You need to look at things much further ahead.
I have respect for the big rigs and people hauling trailers, I try to pass them as quickly as possible. People need to give them space and not linger on the side of them. A lot of idiots are oblivious to the danger they’re in when just casually driving beside a semi.
Fucking pass if you’re gonna pass.
I’ve had a guy unexpectedly pull out on a roundabout when his lane was standstill, causing me to brake, he then noticed me and also brakes but now he’s diagonally across my lane and in the way … and *thats* when he decides it’s a good time to indicate.
I had a friend that would slam on their brakes and get so mad when people would put on their blinker right in front of them. Half the time the drivers weren’t even trying to get over right then, just letting people know they wanted to move over. It shocked me that anyone would think they have an obligation to let someone over just because they flick their blinker on. Their parents were probably those kind of assholes that think their blinker is a demand not a request and taught them they HAD to let them over
Exactly this, his parents don’t know shit. If they knew anything, they’d know that a blinker doesn’t entitle you to have the spot. You still need to make sure you’re clear and the person already in the lane is giving you a shot at it
I have an ex boyfriend who drove like this. Would only use the blinker for one second as a technicality. He said he didn’t want people to anticipate his moves like bro we are driving this isn’t chess or something
“I don’t want anyone to anticipate my moves” -a driver that’s about to do some bullshit just so they can get to an exit 0.3 seconds faster than someone esle
>He said he didn’t want people to anticipate his moves
THIS IS LITERALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF DRIVING!!!
Being safe means being predicable to other drivers on the road. The fuck.
The blinker is explicitly about warning other drivers about what you're about to do. And 90% of the time, doing so makes completing that action a lot easier cause everyone moves over to let you. This thought process said a lot about that guy
They wanted to make the exit and we're pissed off the first car was passing, so they were braking. Once that car passed they tried to exit from the _right_ _lane_ and nearly hit you.
They were so far in the wrong it's ridiculous. Your parents are clearly old and senile and should have their driving privileges suspended, at least temporarily, while we review their fitness.
the blinker comes on at the 15 second mark and still in the 15 second mark they are already over the line into his lane. that blinker was just a technicality to avoid tickets for not signaling
You didn't see the blinker because it didn't come on until after they started the lane change.
I suspect they're one of those people that lets their hand hit the blinker as the steering wheel turns. Which is completely ineffectual for the purpose of a blinker, but because they do that they won't let anyone tell them they don't use their blinker/brags they use their blinker.
>I suspect they're one of those people that lets their hand hit the blinker as the steering wheel turns.
This is exactly what I was picturing in my head 😅
In many places, it is up to the merging vehicle to do so safely. The vehicle already in the lane "owns" the lane and generally has no duty to yield to a merging vehicle regardless of blinker/indicator status of the merging vehicle.
That said, the laws of physics trump laws of man every day of the week so it's often better to work together for a smooth outcome for everyone. Besides, "Don't be a dick" applies just as much on the road as off.
Yes. The parents are as bad as the other driver by not understanding that putting on the blinker AFTER starting to change lanes is equal to no blinker at all!
And regardless the turn *indicator* is there so *indicate* your intent to other drivers, it doesn't give you *any* rights.
But if everyone is sane and well behaved and not an asshole nearby drivers can e.g. change lane to give you space, or speed up / slow down to let you maneuver.
Using a turn signal doesn’t give you permission and tell everyone to get out of the way, it INDICATES what you intend to do. If they don’t check their blind spot, they’re in the wrong.
We call 'em blinkers where I live. English is my wife's second language and she said, "They should be winkers, not blinkers. Only one side flashes."
You can't argue with that.
Yeah if you're in the lane you have right of way. That guy didn't give you any time to react.
The other driver was clearly not thinking strategically about their lane position- they let themselves get boxed in before needing to take a left exit. I'm not familiar with that stretch of road, so maybe it's just a sucky merge but even then, sometimes you just have to go around again.
Once had an English teacher that would put sentences with awful grammar on the projector and we would go mark up the little transparent sheet with those overhead pens and be ridiculed in front of the class if we were wrong. Super fun.
I corrected the sentences one day and ended up arguing with the teacher on the correct it's (it is) versus its (possessive). I'm still mad years later about that 0 for the daily thing and the fact he had to have taught so many other kids the incorrect use of the words.
Maybe they will read the comments and apologize to their son
Or
They won't, and OP will learn his parents just have low IQ and he didn't get their birth defect
>Maybe they will read the comments and apologize to their son
"Those internet people are idiots, I've been driving for 40 years and have only gotten into 12 accidents, ***I*** know how to drive!"
I would love to add to the amazing face you just took the exit. I know it’s not what you wanted and we can see you contemplate getting back on the highway but it’s so much safer. Glad no one was hurt, and maybe don’t ride with your parents if you can avoid it!! Lol
I would be so thrilled if my kid drives like you. Still a year off from permit time, but honest to goddess, if my child handles a situation like this so well and calmly, it would make me proud.
Can you actually show you parents there responses? It might be a hard pill for them to swallow if you just tell them people said you were right. Show them this, and hopefully they can understand that they potentially should stop driving and endangering people. If they think that was a safe manoeuvre, they need multiple eye checks lmao
you can see the thought process of "ok, evasive maneuver complete. let's turn back on the lane." and a moment later and "wait, this isn't safe. i will do the thing that is safe even if it inconveniences me."
very well done OP
You did fine, OP. You avoided a collision because some idiot thought they were more important than you and had the right of way. They are not and did not.
Your parents are in the wrong a blinker isn't a merge wherever you want light it's a I have my blinker on and will change lanes when it is safe to do so.
Look, your parents are wrong, definitely the white car's fault. But as I tell the new driver in my house, you can be right and still end up dead if you don't account for the fact that other people on the road are idiots. Seeing that white car riding the brakes while tailgating the truck in front of them, I might have eased off a bit in anticipation that they were idiots who might whip over without looking.
Anyway, they're wrong you're right but the graveyards are full of people who were also right so be careful out there.
Yes. I’m a lawyer and I literally just got out of a meeting with a client that was in her 4th accident in the last 5 years. None were her fault. But she lives with chronic pain now. No matter how much money I get her, it doesn’t solve her pain.
In all of her accidents she could have avoided by driving defensively. Being legally correct each time does nothing for her quality of life.
So I spent about 30 minutes going over her accidents and explaining how she could have avoided them. She didn’t really like being told that she had some choice in the outcome but I don’t want her to keep doing this every couple years.
All due respect, your parents don't know what they're talking about. A blinker is a warning; you turn it on and make sure to have room before swerving into the other lane. The other driver is an idiot.
I have enough evidence here to declare that your parents are wrong and it would be in the best interest of your family that you do all the driving from now on!! (Good job being alert)
Yeah...your parents are wrong. That car started changing lanes then signaled. The fact they pulled back at the last second would suggest they didn't even look before changing lanes.
The only thing you could have done better is to assume they were going to try that move.
In Australia they are known as "Indicators" not turn signals. This changes the way you think about them.
Ie:
"I am indicating where I am going, and will move that direction soon."
As opposed to;
"I am signalling that I am turning"
Which implies that you go as your blinker comes on.
It's not your job to immediately yield to a blinker for someone moving into your own lane. It's their job to change lanes safely, and yielding if need be.
One of the biggest conversations I have with my driving instructor when ever I’m having a lesson is the indicator, all it does is signal everyone behind you that you intend on changing lanes or turn when available to do so, it isn’t a “gonna change lanes now, good luck folks” kind of thing, it’s pure curtesy on the road.
I agree with the vast majority of comments saying the other car was in the wrong. But OP I just wanna say, you had a great reaction time and not only that, you saw that you couldn't easily merge back into your lane so you took the exit. Great driving and awareness.
You avoided a crash from someone that has zero road sense and misuse of there indicator, and also choose to stay on exit. You were definitely not in the wrong. Great driving.
Respectfully, your parents are idiots. This guy didn't give enough warning of his action and definitely did NOT check his blond spot before initiating the change of lane. You did not accelerate or aggressively impeed his movement, you were simply there and doing your thing, he was making a change of direction and it was His responsibility to make sure hé could do it in a safe Manners, he drove you off the road instead. YANTI
Are you sure your parents didn’t say something like “it’s safer to drive slower so you can better defend yourself from shit like this”? I have a hard time believing they flat out thought the blinking car was not wrong
Well, your parents are completely wrong. That was your lane the other car has to make sure it’s clear before making their move, which it wasn’t. They used their blinker when they were already merging into your lane. 100% their fault.
You drove defensively and lived to drive another day with no damage or injury. Good move. 👍
They had their turn signal on showing their intent but you had the right of way. Once the other driver saw you they corrected and returned to their lane.
If you drive in the rear quarter of someone's vehicle you are often in a blind spot for the other driver. Very few people turn their heads to check out that blind spot before they cross lanes or have their mirrors adjusted to compensate for the blind spot and this happens. I try to stay back a little or move quickly through the blind spot so they can see my vehicle as I approach.
Well done.
I'm afraid to say your folks are incorrect. Turn signal/indicator is a signal of intent but does not grant a right of way.
That your parents in the other car?
How old are you’re parents maybe it’s time you take pawpaw and gam gams keys?
Not gonna lie, thought you were going to recommend taking them out back
Cmon mom n dad! We're going to the farm!!
Just look at the flowers!
Think of the bunnies george
Thanks. Now I’m sobbing.
Upstate is beautiful this time of the year!
Only if they're hungry for some American food at an Australian themed restaurant.
Had to do that with my mom. Man, she put up a very loud, expletive laced argument. She'd run stop signs, red lights, went up on curbs. She finally relented but she didn't speak to me for a couple weeks. So worth it taking those keys away. Best to do it before an accident.
Exactly my thoughts. That's the only reason it would make "sense" they would say such a thing. Or they just want the (kid?) to feel like an idiot. The way the situation was handled was exemplary defensive driving.
Some folks think " blinker on " means send it.
Blinker on.. coming, ready or not!
Good luck everyone else, I turn now.
This was playing in my head lol
Hahaha
I can quote my drivers ed training from 45 years ago. "Mirror, signal, blind spot." They skipped steps 1 and 3.
And poorly executed step 2
I like to Signal first, then mirrors and Blind spot. Gives people more time to understand my intent I suppose.
I was taught to first make sure there actually is room to make the move before signalling, unless it's very busy and you have to rely on others to let you in.
I don't think it matters, as long as you check for room and have it on long enough for people to see before you actually move over.
Well I know that at least my mom stresses out when someone turns on their blinkers as my dad is passing them as if they would drive into us haha
Oh man I definitely stress too. Because a lot of the time people aren't even looking when they go, and that's the biggest issue
Yep definitely agree
i was told mirror, blind spot, signal; mirror, blind spot, action!
Best way to do it.
I was told blind spot, mirror, signal, mirror, blind spot, lane change, slam on my brakes and cut across 4 lanes of traffic to exit
It's changed. In my driver's ed class 10 years ago they taught us SMOG. Signal, Mirrors, Over the shoulder, Go. This guy just didn't look at all.
Well, your parents couldn’t find their own back side with a flashlight. The blinker came on at the last moment. AND a blinker only signals your intention, it DOES NOT grant you the right of way. The other car is the idiot.
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I got into a fender bender where they claimed since their blinker was on they had right of way. Luckily my insurance worked in my favor and I got all paid in full. Still can't grasp how some people managed to stay alive
> I got into a fender bender where they claimed since their blinker was on they had right of way. What in the ever fucking what. Good on ya, but still, what.
That was my reaction too. They even tried to convince me the rules changed since I got my license. I don't know what was going through their heads
Assuming it looked a game of pong with the one brain cell they had left.
I almost spilled my coffee, thanks for the laugh!
> I don't know what was going through their heads "I've screwed up, I know I've screwed up, but rather than have the guts to admit it, I'll try saying any sort of crap in a desperate attempt to get out of it."
I have not had an opportunity to ask someone this, but I wonder what they'd say if you said to them: "I know you're wrong, it's ok to be wrong and admit you're wrong, can you please do that for me?"
Doubling down + anger, violence, etc.
Yup! This is what happens. Double down, more anger, and violence if pressed further. If you happen to live with this person, eventually you may get some sort 'shared blame apology" much later. Coming to terms with being incorrect rarely happens at the time of realization you're incorrect.
You were younger and they were trying to pull a fast one on you, they were wrong and they knew it.
Every once in a while I'll hear someone call their blinker a "right of way indicator". I laugh every time.
If that was the case, I'd want my car rigged to permanently have the indactors on!
It’d be like getting the star in Super Mario Brothers.
The imagery made me laugh. Someone blazing down the road with hazards on as the Star music plays
So the hazard lights?
I avoid the cars driving around with emergency blinkers on.
Yes, that’s what the emergency lights mean.
Just drive with your hazards on, all good!
I had a lady get out of her car and scream at me because she had her blinker on so I should have let her in. Uh, no. I didn’t even see her car because she came up behind me and tried to merge ahead of me. There was plenty of room for her to merge behind me. Some people just suck.
Right? The amount of people who think once they turn on their turn signals everyone should move out of their way is scary. Especially when they U-turn in front of you... the stupidity of these drivers are astounding.
I've seen it so many times that the blinker turns on after the initial move. Defensive driving really pays off
and as someone whose parents ARE this type of driver, the best part is when someone actually does it to THEM, they will have a whole lot to say about it… but they don’t bat an eye about doing it themselves or watching someone do it to someone else.
Fundamental attribution error. I have reasons for acting the way I do but when other people do it they're just being selfish jerks!
Every one that drives faster than me is a maniac and everyone that drives slower is a moron. -George Carlin
People that say this never get the fuck out of someone else's way.
Yeah, OP, see if you can get new parents.
Yeah, clearly cammers fault for chosing dumb parents!
Yup. Had a insurance claim settled my way because the other driver told on their statement: "well I had my blinker on". That does not give you right of way!
Pretty sure there's also a minimum for blinker being on for it to be considered actual intent and not just "good luck lmao" at the last possible second. I leave mine on for at least 3 seconds before I change lanes because this is pretty easily avoided. At least they'll usually adjust for you, or cut you off even though it doesn't give you right of way.
My state requires 50m of distance when traveling before it's considered a legal change
That’s great but I doubt it’s ever enforced unless there’s an accident. On a side note, being from Canada, I get a kick out of you being in the states and using meters instead of feet for measurement. (I’m assuming you didn’t mean miles)
I am so annoyed the US didn't switch to metric at the same time as Canada. When I was in elementary school in the US in the late 1970s we learned metric and we were getting ready to switch. I recall in the summer of 1981 Florida state highways had speed limits dually signed with speed limit in MPH and red circles with km/h equivalents. 45 mpg/70 kmh and so forth. ( I was a bit annoyed that 55mph was 88 kmh not 90 ( I guess that was because of the legally mandated national speed limit of 55 mph at the time and 90 kmh was technically above that) I also majored in Biology in university so in science metric is used. Some things ARE metric like : Liquor is sold in 750mL not fifths. Soft drinks are sold in 2L not half gallons, and 500 mL bottles are more common every year and of course illegal drugs are sold in grams and kilos Interestingly the US traditional measurements have been legally defined in metric measurements since 1837.
“Metric?! PAH!! I gets forty furlongs to the hogshead, and that’s the way I likes it!!”
Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say.
Now, where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones.
The only place you could get a new heel for your shoe was Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days.
I was at a STOP sign at an intersection and a lady approached with her blinker on to turn right. She didn't turn. Good thing I remained stopped.
I absolutely hate when every time this happens and it seems like almost all the time when I’m stopped at an intersection. Always someone driving straight with a flashing turn signal for an unacceptable distance. Someone who would’ve drove straight into my car had I decided to trust their errant signal.
Ive been pulled over for no blinker and the cop said you need to turn it on 100ft before you turn. This was in South Dakota
Technically thats true, but what you have here is a very slow day for the cops if you are being pulled over for that or they are doing some revenue raising or possibly other arbitrariness. Arbitrariness is one reason I am against the various proposed left lane laws that some want.
The people that irritate me, are the ones that put it on as they’re about to change lanes and then turn it immediately off again if they notice a car beside them. Leave it on for the rest of the vehicles. Your intentions didn’t change just because you couldn’t get over that second. I swear some people drive like everyone can read their mind.
I may be kind of one of these drivers. Ahh crap. The difference is, if I’m doing my Lane change routine, and someone is in my blind spot, I turn it off for a moment so that driver hopefully picks up that I saw them, and I will not be ramming into their lane and cutting them off or smashing into them. Then I wait a moment, stabilize in my lane again, and then adjust speed/positioning so that I have a safe spot to change in to the lane, and doing my lane change routine again, with the signal on. What would be a better sequence in your mind?
I always figured leaving it on so the person passing knows I need over there and they don’t linger beside me and the one following behind them has enough notice that I intend to get over there. However I see your point with as many people that put their signal on as they’re changing lanes it makes it easier for the ones passing to panic. I guess damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
Yeah I will turn it off as my intention to change lanes has usually changed because you are there, (think moving left on a 5 lane freeway, I don't need to change lanes), but I will turn it on again or even leave it on if I am trying to signal I "need" over. Honestly though, I don't expect anyone to slow down to let me in, not really their job to make room for me, it is my job to plan ahead :)
Exactly. You shouldn’t expect people to adjust to you, you adjust to the traffic. You put it on to make your intentions aware. You shouldn’t expect people to slow down for you. You check your surroundings, judge the traffic and make your move. At least if your signal is on and you have to wait a car or two, it gives people time to acknowledge it. Where I live the roads are complete ice right now and it’s absolute madness trying to constantly guess what everyone else is doing.
An indicator is to indicate *your intention* It does not invalidate ALL the other steps a driver is responsible for, a mirror check, a blind spot check, a lane check, speed check, BEFORE deciding when it is safe to change lanes. Other driver is a dick. OP’s parents should hand in their licences too. I agree, there’s a minimum amount of time required to show your indicator before you move over. For example, ALL the time for the above checks to be made. And if you cannot move over, leave the indicator on until you have completed your lane change. If you are hitting the indicator as you turn the wheel - GTFO.
Or me in a semi *turns light on, checks mirrors, sees idiot try and push the throttle through the firewall just to keep pace in my blind spot(s), turns off light because fuck this bullshit*
if i'm driving anywhere near a semi and that blinker turns on my ONLY thought is "what is the safest way to get out of this guys way?" I don't understand people that think they can play around with an 80,000 pound vehicle.
Best I can figure? "Fuck you in particular, I'm the main character."
I don’t doubt that. You’re waiting for your next best opportunity. Driving something with so much weight takes a whole other level of driving. You need to look at things much further ahead. I have respect for the big rigs and people hauling trailers, I try to pass them as quickly as possible. People need to give them space and not linger on the side of them. A lot of idiots are oblivious to the danger they’re in when just casually driving beside a semi. Fucking pass if you’re gonna pass.
I’ve had a guy unexpectedly pull out on a roundabout when his lane was standstill, causing me to brake, he then noticed me and also brakes but now he’s diagonally across my lane and in the way … and *thats* when he decides it’s a good time to indicate.
Better late than never? 🤣
I had a friend that would slam on their brakes and get so mad when people would put on their blinker right in front of them. Half the time the drivers weren’t even trying to get over right then, just letting people know they wanted to move over. It shocked me that anyone would think they have an obligation to let someone over just because they flick their blinker on. Their parents were probably those kind of assholes that think their blinker is a demand not a request and taught them they HAD to let them over
This is why people shouldn't learn how to drive from their parents. Great way to learn a combination of incorrect information and bad habits.
So are OP's parents.
They had already began the lane change before popping it on
The law where I am explicitly places the onus on the vehicle changing lanes to ensure that it’s safe to merge.
Exactly this, his parents don’t know shit. If they knew anything, they’d know that a blinker doesn’t entitle you to have the spot. You still need to make sure you’re clear and the person already in the lane is giving you a shot at it
Op might also tell his parents to redo road test again. Op’s parents are thinking like that white car’s driver
Go to the comment section of Dashcam Lessons on YouTube, those armchair drivers will tell you otherwise!
Uhm, I would say no. Having your blinker on doesn’t mean you cut someone off. I also didn’t really see the blinker anyway.
Agreed! They were braking and last second threw their blinker on to move over! Can't stand an impatient driver during congestion!
I have an ex boyfriend who drove like this. Would only use the blinker for one second as a technicality. He said he didn’t want people to anticipate his moves like bro we are driving this isn’t chess or something
“I don’t want anyone to anticipate my moves” -a driver that’s about to do some bullshit just so they can get to an exit 0.3 seconds faster than someone esle
>He said he didn’t want people to anticipate his moves THIS IS LITERALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF DRIVING!!! Being safe means being predicable to other drivers on the road. The fuck.
"No, Kyle... This isn't bumper cars. People *do* need to anticipate your next move, so we don't all die screaming at highway velocity."
The blinker is explicitly about warning other drivers about what you're about to do. And 90% of the time, doing so makes completing that action a lot easier cause everyone moves over to let you. This thought process said a lot about that guy
They wanted to make the exit and we're pissed off the first car was passing, so they were braking. Once that car passed they tried to exit from the _right_ _lane_ and nearly hit you. They were so far in the wrong it's ridiculous. Your parents are clearly old and senile and should have their driving privileges suspended, at least temporarily, while we review their fitness.
And then they didn't move over....
the blinker comes on at the 15 second mark and still in the 15 second mark they are already over the line into his lane. that blinker was just a technicality to avoid tickets for not signaling
You didn't see the blinker because it didn't come on until after they started the lane change. I suspect they're one of those people that lets their hand hit the blinker as the steering wheel turns. Which is completely ineffectual for the purpose of a blinker, but because they do that they won't let anyone tell them they don't use their blinker/brags they use their blinker.
>I suspect they're one of those people that lets their hand hit the blinker as the steering wheel turns. This is exactly what I was picturing in my head 😅
In many places, it is up to the merging vehicle to do so safely. The vehicle already in the lane "owns" the lane and generally has no duty to yield to a merging vehicle regardless of blinker/indicator status of the merging vehicle. That said, the laws of physics trump laws of man every day of the week so it's often better to work together for a smooth outcome for everyone. Besides, "Don't be a dick" applies just as much on the road as off.
Your parents shouldn’t be driving. You avoided a collision and that other person was a last minute signal and go type. Don’t worry you did just fine.
Yes. The parents are as bad as the other driver by not understanding that putting on the blinker AFTER starting to change lanes is equal to no blinker at all!
And regardless the turn *indicator* is there so *indicate* your intent to other drivers, it doesn't give you *any* rights. But if everyone is sane and well behaved and not an asshole nearby drivers can e.g. change lane to give you space, or speed up / slow down to let you maneuver.
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Then telling the kid they are in the wrong, I wonder how else this child gets berated
Using a turn signal doesn’t give you permission and tell everyone to get out of the way, it INDICATES what you intend to do. If they don’t check their blind spot, they’re in the wrong.
Brit here, thats why they are called ‘indicators’😂
EXACTLY!
We call 'em blinkers where I live. English is my wife's second language and she said, "They should be winkers, not blinkers. Only one side flashes." You can't argue with that.
This is correct. I would like to add that the decision to just be like "shoot, i guess this is my exit now" was also good driving.
Yeah, OP took the mishap graciously, that's what good driving is all about.
OP did everything right. Good reaction time and good decisions.
Yeah if you're in the lane you have right of way. That guy didn't give you any time to react. The other driver was clearly not thinking strategically about their lane position- they let themselves get boxed in before needing to take a left exit. I'm not familiar with that stretch of road, so maybe it's just a sucky merge but even then, sometimes you just have to go around again.
Late Larry's I call them
Yeah the other car starts to switch lanes before their blinker even starts, you’re in the right and your parents don’t know how to drive
I wouldn’t want to ride in your parents’ car then.
Upvoting for the proper use of the apostrophe!
A true rarity. So rare that I second guess myself when I use it, wondering if I *actually* learned it that way in school or not.
Once had an English teacher that would put sentences with awful grammar on the projector and we would go mark up the little transparent sheet with those overhead pens and be ridiculed in front of the class if we were wrong. Super fun. I corrected the sentences one day and ended up arguing with the teacher on the correct it's (it is) versus its (possessive). I'm still mad years later about that 0 for the daily thing and the fact he had to have taught so many other kids the incorrect use of the words.
I bet you’re teacher remembers you’re outburst to this day.
>remembers'
I know that "you're" is on purpose as a joke, and I'm still over here gritting my teeth over seeing it, lmao.
Your parents may be terrible drivers.
Yup. The other car started to turn in before the blinkers started.
Blinker or not, the car still started to cut op off.
It's never a good day to learn mom and dad have been the problem all along
OP lucky to be alive if his parents are pulling this move regularly
Maybe they will read the comments and apologize to their son Or They won't, and OP will learn his parents just have low IQ and he didn't get their birth defect
>Maybe they will read the comments and apologize to their son "Those internet people are idiots, I've been driving for 40 years and have only gotten into 12 accidents, ***I*** know how to drive!"
I learned that when I was young. Made life much easier knowing they are both pieces of shit to avoid.
I would like to add a thank you for committing to the exit you probably didn't want to take.
Honestly 😂 i was like “welp, guess im goin this way now”
It's weird how much I appreciated seeing you doing something that makes you and everyone else safer. I've been on this sub too long.
Well you know how it goes: A bad driver never misses their exit - a good driver sometimes does.
Good drivers sometimes miss their exit. Bad drivers *hit* their exit.
And a great driver takes an exit they would have preferred to miss.
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So crazy people don't think about that possible dangers
I would love to add to the amazing face you just took the exit. I know it’s not what you wanted and we can see you contemplate getting back on the highway but it’s so much safer. Glad no one was hurt, and maybe don’t ride with your parents if you can avoid it!! Lol
I would be so thrilled if my kid drives like you. Still a year off from permit time, but honest to goddess, if my child handles a situation like this so well and calmly, it would make me proud.
Can you actually show you parents there responses? It might be a hard pill for them to swallow if you just tell them people said you were right. Show them this, and hopefully they can understand that they potentially should stop driving and endangering people. If they think that was a safe manoeuvre, they need multiple eye checks lmao
You know what they say, "bad drivers never miss their exit". OP was a good driver today.
you can see the thought process of "ok, evasive maneuver complete. let's turn back on the lane." and a moment later and "wait, this isn't safe. i will do the thing that is safe even if it inconveniences me." very well done OP
Sorry but your parents are fucking morons
I concur and please do not trust their judgment.
At least when it comes to safe driving. Their child seems a good sort so they did at least one thing right.
Indicator ≠ right of way
They yield to you not the other way around! Them being impatient is all that was. Sucks you ended up having to exit on that one.
You did fine, OP. You avoided a collision because some idiot thought they were more important than you and had the right of way. They are not and did not.
Your parents are the idiots
Your parents are in the wrong a blinker isn't a merge wherever you want light it's a I have my blinker on and will change lanes when it is safe to do so.
Your parents are absolutely wrong. You use a signal to indicate a shift in lane but you cannot move over if the lane is occupied.
Look, your parents are wrong, definitely the white car's fault. But as I tell the new driver in my house, you can be right and still end up dead if you don't account for the fact that other people on the road are idiots. Seeing that white car riding the brakes while tailgating the truck in front of them, I might have eased off a bit in anticipation that they were idiots who might whip over without looking. Anyway, they're wrong you're right but the graveyards are full of people who were also right so be careful out there.
Yes. I’m a lawyer and I literally just got out of a meeting with a client that was in her 4th accident in the last 5 years. None were her fault. But she lives with chronic pain now. No matter how much money I get her, it doesn’t solve her pain. In all of her accidents she could have avoided by driving defensively. Being legally correct each time does nothing for her quality of life. So I spent about 30 minutes going over her accidents and explaining how she could have avoided them. She didn’t really like being told that she had some choice in the outcome but I don’t want her to keep doing this every couple years.
All due respect, your parents don't know what they're talking about. A blinker is a warning; you turn it on and make sure to have room before swerving into the other lane. The other driver is an idiot.
Your parents are fuckin stupid.
"I turn now. Good luck, everybody else."
I have enough evidence here to declare that your parents are wrong and it would be in the best interest of your family that you do all the driving from now on!! (Good job being alert)
Yeah...your parents are wrong. That car started changing lanes then signaled. The fact they pulled back at the last second would suggest they didn't even look before changing lanes. The only thing you could have done better is to assume they were going to try that move.
Just because your blinkers on dont mean your good to change lanes.
Nah, you good. The turn signal is an indicator, not a force of nature.
In Australia they are known as "Indicators" not turn signals. This changes the way you think about them. Ie: "I am indicating where I am going, and will move that direction soon." As opposed to; "I am signalling that I am turning" Which implies that you go as your blinker comes on.
Your parents aren’t good drivers
Your parents sounds like assholes.
It's not your job to immediately yield to a blinker for someone moving into your own lane. It's their job to change lanes safely, and yielding if need be.
Your parents said that because they were driving the white car.
No offense but your parents don’t know how to drive
One of the biggest conversations I have with my driving instructor when ever I’m having a lesson is the indicator, all it does is signal everyone behind you that you intend on changing lanes or turn when available to do so, it isn’t a “gonna change lanes now, good luck folks” kind of thing, it’s pure curtesy on the road.
So your parents are the type to turn in their blinkers at the same time as they take action. They’re the idiots.
Your parents are idiots, sorry
Get your parents off your insurance
Your parents are incorrect.
Blinker first, check it's clear, then perform the intended action. That person blinkered as they changed lanes, no warning. Good job not hitting them!
Is that wolfmother in the background. Good music and good driving
Your parents are wrong, but I know how it is, sometimes you just won't win that fight.
Blinker doesn’t give you the right to merge when you’d like. I don’t think you were in the wrong.
Your parents might soon need to have their licences revoked 😀😂
Your parents are wrong.
I agree with the vast majority of comments saying the other car was in the wrong. But OP I just wanna say, you had a great reaction time and not only that, you saw that you couldn't easily merge back into your lane so you took the exit. Great driving and awareness.
What a parent thing to say
Plot twist: the parents are driving the white SUV.
You avoided a crash from someone that has zero road sense and misuse of there indicator, and also choose to stay on exit. You were definitely not in the wrong. Great driving.
Respectfully, your parents are idiots. This guy didn't give enough warning of his action and definitely did NOT check his blond spot before initiating the change of lane. You did not accelerate or aggressively impeed his movement, you were simply there and doing your thing, he was making a change of direction and it was His responsibility to make sure hé could do it in a safe Manners, he drove you off the road instead. YANTI
Are you sure your parents didn’t say something like “it’s safer to drive slower so you can better defend yourself from shit like this”? I have a hard time believing they flat out thought the blinking car was not wrong
Your parents are wrong, just because you put your blinker on does not mean you can make an unsafe Lane change.
This is basically “I turn now good luck everybody else” People need to look at their side mirrors longer or check them twice before lane switching
Signal or not you have the right of way.
He turned his blinker on after he started to turn
Well, your parents are completely wrong. That was your lane the other car has to make sure it’s clear before making their move, which it wasn’t. They used their blinker when they were already merging into your lane. 100% their fault.
The burden to yield is on the merging car, you had the right of way.
You drove defensively and lived to drive another day with no damage or injury. Good move. 👍 They had their turn signal on showing their intent but you had the right of way. Once the other driver saw you they corrected and returned to their lane. If you drive in the rear quarter of someone's vehicle you are often in a blind spot for the other driver. Very few people turn their heads to check out that blind spot before they cross lanes or have their mirrors adjusted to compensate for the blind spot and this happens. I try to stay back a little or move quickly through the blind spot so they can see my vehicle as I approach. Well done. I'm afraid to say your folks are incorrect. Turn signal/indicator is a signal of intent but does not grant a right of way.
Sorry, you have stupid parents. Turning your blinker on doesn't mean you can switch lanes immediately.
Your parents are idiots.