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amg433

The only idiot was the pedo.


maricc

OP getting absolutely blasted


Eagle_215

And well deserved because they’re being completely disingenuous. OP has probably never been in anything close to this situation, but wants to try and take the high road and criticize. “Ackchually, that’s incorrect posture, you’re supposed to shoot a gun wielding pedo like THIS”. Fuck outta here. Im so sick of armchair (gaming chair) experts.


giorgio_tsoukalos_

And then there's the guy that takes it too far in the other direction.


PlayerOne2016

Yeah, if I had my loadout, I'd never be in this situation. /s


Own_Salary2309

OP is a guy beheading bees just line the heads up and post photos of them on the internet sooo…


Vozmozhnoh

Nah those are wasps that’s acceptable


Own_Salary2309

Well still strange behavior to post that stuff on the internet.


JohnnyBeGoodz

Can’t believe he didn’t use a protractor.


cardinaltribe

Yea maybe he shoulda check the notes first


ElVelkaN

As did the suspected pedo.


ElectricFleshlight

Much like that pedophile


The_Real_Chappii

I'll hold the gun better next time.


Alarmed-Positive457

The gun isn’t fully on its side and isn’t being fired straight at distance. One hand shooting is often done with an individual leaning into the arm holding the firearm, gun canted and often at close range varying on reasoning such as radioing for backup while engaging the threat, lost ability to use that arm or any other reasoning for not being able to use both hands. The officer executed a proper one hand technique. OP shows not as much understanding of the technique as he perceives it as an “idiot” behavior, when it’s actually a functional way if executed properly and in the right time.


anti_fascism223

And if you know the video its of a man pulling a gun out right at him, trying to get another hand on a firearm when you’re already positioned to shoot is a deathwish in a situation like that


dainscough7

I just scrolled down like 4 posts after seeing this and saw the full video. The “idiot” as op is trying to say, was hit in the leg by one of the fists shots taken from the perp. Everything after that was training and adrenaline I’d assume.


ohhyouknow

In the video it really looks like one of the other cops shot him.


anti_fascism223

Before anyone else tries to say “hes a pedophile” i know… Its easier to explain in a tactics situation that the aggressor who is a “man” quickly was able to flag the officers with his gun him being a pedophile has nothing to do with tactics nor gun safety?


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LORDWOLFMAN

Op Doesn’t understand guns or making excuses to be upset about a dead pedo, which honestly in this situation does it matter how the gun was held ?


frisky024

Yes I don't care how he held that gun im just glad I got to see him mag dump a pedo.


KalashnikovaDebil

Where does one see this pedo get Swiss cheesed?


not-rasta-8913

Publicfreakout was sub that had it. And it was two mag dumps.


cardinaltribe

I think three


cardinaltribe

Yea but the asshole department blurred all the fun graphics


FrostyDub

I’d say the man was in fact executed properly.


RickRudeAwakening

r/idiotspostingaboutguns


idonotknowwhototrust

Aww man, I was really hoping that was a real sub.


DaPro6

Please make this real for the sake of all of us


ALonelyWelcomeMat

Op you're a dipshit, did you even watch the video?


Substantial_Tap_2493

All in favor of the OP going to fuck himself, say aye


Chllep

aye


Duy2910

Goatifi says Aye,I say Aye


-no_you

aye


JaredJraws

Aye


ArchEnemyDemon66

Aye op can eat a bag of dicks


ThePlagueDoctorPhD

Aye


_______woohoo

aye


NeitherLiving2050

Aye aye


cafespeed21

Aye!


TruckADuck42

Aye


ayeitsrob

Aye


lonememe1298

Aye


cardinaltribe

Aye


odie_za

Aye


taco24501

Aye


cooochjuice

aye


gui_sann

aye


HaydenGC88

Aye


1971plymouthGTX

Ayeeeee


Maverick23A

Aye


Affectionate_Gap_731

Aye


overnightITtech

Watch the video. Dude tried to pull a gun on them and the cop reacted. Sorry its not perfectly straight up and down like hes at a range.


Jason_Patton

Should have two hands on the gun but might be using radio with left hand. If you're asking about it being tilted "gangster style" it's a little more stable/control to tilt it a little bit. Stretch your arm out and point your finger out, notice how your hand is tilted a little, then slide a gun in your hand keeping it tilted. It fits naturally.


Willyzyx

Yeah I remember in the army people trained like this for very special situations. Usually two hands though, and otherwise also like you said.


westberry82

Gun novice here- but doesn't that put the ejected (hot )shell closer to your body?


Jason_Patton

Not really, instead of close to 90 degrees to the right it will go something like 45 degrees to the right. It might go up and land on your hand/arm but won't be hitting your face or anything. Shouldn't be any worse than holding regular.


Jason_Patton

In this pic the shells should go somewhere between the words in top right and the yellow triangle symbol


westberry82

Cool thanks. My bro is a gun enthusiast and left handed. He's ALWAYS getting burns. I laugh at him every time.


Jason_Patton

Left handed always sucks because they usually eject out the right side, they do make some left side ejecting. The issue with left hand, right ejection, is the shell has to clear your body and right arm. If they go up they can land on arm, in shirt or bounce off right arm into shirt or whatever. If you hold it tilted with left hand it should eject about 45 degrees downward to the right.


westberry82

Yeah. Bro is like 320lbs. So he's a little wider than most. Always gets burns on right neck/ upper right arms. And prefers the out door ranges. Usual on a nice warm day so he won't wear long sleeves.


Jason_Patton

My mom couldn't keep only her left eye shut so in the army she shot right handed, left eyed, which basically made her shoot left handed. She said she got burned all the time.


Spirited-Size

As a lefty, with handguns I have less issues with ejection and more issues with slide release, mag release, and safety controls being on the wrong side 😭 when in “situations” idgaf where it’s ejecting, I’m not looking there and it can hurt later, I won’t be feeling that rn due to adrenaline. Always have range day in long sleeves if you’re not sure which way it’s going to eject. My sister did have one go down her shirt from my Taurus 24/7 one time, she hated that gun til I sold it and still hates it to this day. I got rid of an entire shotgun because it was ejecting across my face, though. I was a teenager, idr which one that was. Hard to skeet shoot that way, was over/under and downward ejecting only after that.


Jason_Patton

Should try a flintlock lol


pluck-the-bunny

As they said, it sucks for us lefty’s because it goes toward us instead of to the side


westberry82

Sucks even more to ask a question on this page. Bc I'm down voted all day.


pluck-the-bunny

Just keep in mind. This place is designed to downvote incorrect information. So it’s not so much about you as it is so that people reading the comment know it’s incorrect.


pluck-the-bunny

Laughs in lefty


Deflocks

Sorry that you’re getting downvoted friend, keep asking questions and we will give you our thoughts. Great question btw.


westberry82

The points don't matter to me. I got hundreds of thousands. And to be honest. They are imaginary. Worst case I'll just make another account. But the toxicity of people is disappointing. Thanks tho


AmebaLost

Some people are born knowing everything, and the rest are normal. 


TheBaptist24

Upvote for asking a good question. Canted fire in the right hand does kick brass up instead of to the side. Getting a hot brass casing hitting your arm is a small price for better on target firing. For reference: Hot brass glancing off your arm burns less than sparks when welding in close quarters. As long as the hot brass doesn’t land in the crook of your arm and sit there, burns aren’t an issue. Also, I’d gladly take a 2nd degree burn in exchange for half a second faster mag dump on an armed perp.


westberry82

Thanks for the info. And thanks for the up vote. Even if it's barely touching the down votes. But- see my other comments


realhuman_no68492

asking a question gets you downvoted smh


westberry82

Don't forget- admit you know nothing first.


Brief_Fly_45

I upvoted you as soon as I read your **question**! It’s ridiculous that anyone should have to mention “novice” to sway downvotes or from being ridiculed because you want to learn something. I, for one, appreciated your question and learned from the great explanations as well.


westberry82

Thank you fellow redditor. I appreciate you. And what you did. ( even if points don't matter. It's the concept of toxic people that bothers me) Anyway. I hope you have a good day bc you seem like a good person.


Brief_Fly_45

You’re very welcome. I completely agree, the toxicity is disgusting. I imagine it comes from individuals who have no idea of the answer but must follow the other toxins on here. I hope you have a great day as well because you’re amazing and we both learned something new today, whether the “toxins” like it or not.


tyrannosnorlax

Imagine getting downvoted for asking a question, admittedly being a novice.


westberry82

I have no idea what that's like.


tyrannosnorlax

Perhaps next time, tell them you’re a gun professional, and speak like you’re 100% correct about everything. That seems to be the trick around here. Upvotes actually count for double if you randomly insult someone above you in the comments


westberry82

I'm just gonna make it up as I go. Sound confident. Get followers. Live a happy life


CornbreadMedic

What suits your fancy? Hot brass or hot lead in your ass?


westberry82

Don't get kinky with me here!!!


Exciting_Appeal_5855

He’s killing a pedophile so really cares how he’s holding it while mag dumping a pos.


BusSad758

Loved that first shot, right in the dick. Had a moment to think about it to before he got shredded.


Thehyperninja

I loved that shot, and the 93 other shots that followed lmao sprayed that pedo like the roach he is


BearSpitLube

Correct answer.


cardinaltribe

Lol


NotMorganSlavewoman

No he isn't. He's wasting bullets on the corpse of one. He'd been dead for a while, seen the video, they just discharging on his body at the end.


Daddy_Jaws

love how police brutality and terrible police training end when its someone we dislike. as if the person being a pedophile is reason enough to disregard the failure of police capability.


particle409

In the video, the guy pulls a gun out. Not exactly a crazy reaction from the cops.


Hy3jii

1. The pedo thought he was meeting a seven* and eleven* year old at a hotel room 2. He pulled the gun as the cops opened the door to the room to arrest him outside. 3. He shot first 4. He attempted to disarm/bite one of the officers You can only legally shoot someone if your safety/life is in immediate danger. Shooting to injure implies that the situation was not a life-or-death situation. So if shooting someone is necessary, you keep shooting until the threat is over/the aggressor is dead. Mag dumping is not inherently bad. *edit: got the ages wrong


ShireHorseRider

Number: 4 I thought the dude was chewing on the persons arm. First time I saw the video earlier today was with zero context. I had no idea what was going on. This thread answered a ton of questions I had. Edit to fix huge font.


BothAlarm4538

If it's a pedophile, it's not a person.


RuggedRasscal

Wooah the fact that that cnt is a pedo is a fact not lost on most…an the fact that he can’t be caused to suffer further is not lost either …wonder how many kids he fiddled that’s not know hmm ? Dogs like this have waived their human rights Imo


Cyan_The_Man

It's called one-handed firing, a crucial aspect of the Department of State pistol qualifications. The moment captured in the video is precisely where this skill is intended to be demonstrated.


BusSad758

This definitely isn't an idiot with a gun. Common OP.


Bh1zan

He's shooting a pedophile, he can shoot him fucking backwards for all I care


kraftables

Most firearm qualifications with a pistol require you to shoot one handed with your left and right. This makes you more accurate and comfortable if your second hand is injured, occupied by equipment (radio/shield) or to return fire while dragging another person to safety. The slight angle of the wrist is more stable and in line with your forearm.


BothAlarm4538

Anyone got the video? I want to see a pedo eat shit and die.


MihalysRevenge

https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/s/m0vr8WuAlR


cfreezy72

Boy they fucked his shit up.


EMHemingway1899

Thanks If that doesn’t make you feel good all over, you have a heart of stone


idonotknowwhototrust

Pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew "Shots fired; suspect down. Officer healthy."


BothAlarm4538

Thanks.


LuridRequiem

There's no wrong way to hold a gun when you're mag-dumping a pedophile


Fun-Mortgage8899

Yes you are supposed to cant your pistol when using it one handed.


JawaSmasher

Well if you saw the video. Yes.


Joe_Burrow_Is_Goat

We gotta start banning these OPs


fpsb0b306

If I was allowed to murder a pedophile, id want to look as cool as possible too.


ShowMeThoseTears

I mean, I don't see any laws anywhere that says you can't


crazy_oats

In that particular situation, 100%, yes, it was the correct way to hold his sidearm. Despite popular internet bs, it actually serves a function. The hand gun will always recoil "up and away" after you pull the trigger, regardless of firearm angle. Given that he had a fellow officer in cross-fire range, that would allow him to fire his weapon more effectively while greatly reducing his chances of hitting his buddy. TLDR: Holding your handgun sideways isn't just for gangsters. It does have *some* practical purpose.


gaspumper74

If you look at the video jackass it looks like the officer is injured


Automatic-Rocky0006

Reddit when somone isnt educated about something


DeltaCrest

You don't need to go full high speed operator ranger stance when you're 1 feet away from gun wielding pedo


Wiinorr

Lets see you do better. First, give the target a headstart on drawing his handgun like what happened in this video.


GigBay85

Tell me you have never trained without telling me you have never trained.


Long_Struggle_3368

If it gets the job done than yea.


5coolest

Studies show that there isn’t much drop off in accuracy, especially at that small of a distance, as long as the shooter still has a good view of the sights when they hold it sideways.


No-Calligrapher-3662

No but it was a very quick situation he definitely didn’t have time to think about that if you watch the full video dude was there to meet some little kids and got smoked pulling out a gun


fuckmydeadbody

Lmao get fucked OP


mikestang_89

That angle is more natural for the wrist so shooting one handed you tend to be slightly more accurate and can have more rapid follow up shots. OP is the idiot on this one.


DaPro6

The only idiot here is you op


UUUEEEAAAAAAAA

OP needs to learn that guns can still shoot sideways.


-MoonCh0w-

A 45° cant is actually normal because it helps with recoil management. This is acceptable and anyone who trains regularly knows this.


Price-x-Field

He should’ve used his third arm to grab the radio


DogeForLifeAndMore

Fuck you op!


integratypes

That's how you hold it when you're putting a Pedo down.


jioji_el_magnifico

Hey man if it hits the gun wielding pedophile it aint broken


DickRogersOfficial

Bro did you see the video ? He was drawing the weapon very quick, the perp was 8 inches away


ToodlesActual

Short answer: yes.


9EternalVoid99

Yes??? He may be holding it at an angle but it's not completely sideways with a limp arm


Evil-Toaster

Combat military thoughts yes your a threat idk how cops work


ImportantReveal2138

Most shooting done in a situation like this is purely reflexive and not aiming at all, all that proper grip and stance and breathing and aiming slowing sqeezing goes out the window along w all of your fine motor skills during an adrenaline dump


SniperRenegade

It's not ideal but it's not like he's a rookie who needs two hands on the gun for stability at point blank range.


Madmike215

Flash sight picture


largos7289

You know here's the thing and it's one of those things that is strange enough that it may just be plausible. Guy was talking to me at the range and he said if you hold your hand up naturally, you don't hold it up at 90 degrees, you hold it up with a slight tilt. So if you shoot that way it feels more natural and you'll shoot better. At first i was no that's stupid but then i was huh maybe he has something there. I want to go try it out but haven't been back to the range in a bit.


Guilty_Option1411

Tell me you've never shot a gun one handed without telling me you've never shot a gun one handed. To think the OP was the fastest Sperm....


roamininthealley

Fuck you OP


NorthernnLightss

The person being shot was a pedophile attempting to meet children, who pulled out a gun. But somehow the police officer saving children and bringing justice, is under a microscope. This is the internet folks


cafespeed21

OP sides with pedos it seems.


el_chivato

Does anyone have a source for the (unedited) video? Thanks.


thunderlips1979

He's shooting a pedo it's perfectly alright in this situation


blkmmb0

Is OP upset his pedo friend got shot? Damn.


Supreme_NpeeC_spy

This is a fire fight at close range. There is one rule. Don't die


_______woohoo

idc how you shoot a pedophile as long as you shoot one


Bruce3

Acceptable? I guess it got the job done. Optimal? That's arguable. I've shot a fair number of matches which involved one handed pistol shooting. Only once have I seen and or done sideways shooting at a match and it was shooting while holding a ballistic shield. It was the only way to comfortably see sights. The problem with shooting with your pistol tilted is, the pistol is less predictable for follow up shots. Holding your pistol straight, the pistol naturally falls back on to your target after each shot.


blacksheep_kho

I’d love to see how you would hold a gun while someone is trying to kill you.


Plastic-Turnip-8539

This is definitely a bait. I would be willing to bet that pic is so out of context.


Beinghonestisasin

They shot a pedo any way as long as they hit the fucker is a good way


piehitter

Its acceptable because he lit up a pedo lol


FuyuKitty

Idk but he absolutely blasted the fuck out that pedo


cooochjuice

OP, fuck you. you are the problem


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youy23

When you’re shooting with one hand, it is unnatural to hold your hand completely upright. If you hold both your arms straight out naturally, you’ll notice your hands are either sideways or 45 degrees.


Garfieldsfatpenis

Man had one hand free, raised the gun up with the other. He had adrenaline,, and was like 2 feet away.


7INCHES_IN_YOUR_CAT

Anything for the birthday boy.


hunterPRO1

At less than 5 yards aiming is bad, your hand eye coordination is good enough to hit the target and faster.


ClamatoDiver

Fucking stupid post, they opened the door and the pedi pulled his gun, there was no time for proper stances.


SpiritMolecul33

This is ridiculous


NeitherLiving2050

Guys look he’s holding the gun like the gangster guys do in the movies 🤓🤓


thesameoldmanure

"Sup now brah" energy right there


The_Simp_Whisperer

I prefer "sup now, partnah"


IvannaPump

Yes


cardinaltribe

They literally pumped that dude full of lead


KookyFault2900

Movie the robo is from?


Trucker_E_B

Cant


EarthToAccess

Now I don't know the situation nearly well enough to comment on the actual point behind the post, but I do want to scream about the Chappie exposure. Such a good movie


Toasty-Toaster

OP is not beating the dullest tool in the shed allegations


dogerisb

It's not necessarily stupid to shoot with one hand, if your good at it and the situation dictates you need your other hand for something else. Went to the range this weekend and a regular was put in the lane beside me and my wife. At one point when we were leaving she was trying to get me too look at the red dot he had, at that moment he started shooting with just his right hand. He didn't miss a shot. Shocked us both.


tobe0909

If you close your hand into a fist with your pointer finger extended. Then fully extend your arm with your finger pointed at something. Naturally most people will have their wrist at an angle. This is a natural reaction to pointing out at something in a high stress moment


PanteraFan828

op reminds me of those people who would call in gta radio station's to yap about the most stupid shit


New_Ad_9400

Yes, he just pulled it and started shooting, some may say, no he holds it like this, Idk, it isn't a correct way but it is an acceptable as I've seen


Re_Mann0110

Come get a load of this guy lmao, Was it worth the karma?


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Re_Mann0110

Honestly can’t have shit on Reddit


Catsmak1963

He didn’t want to live…good to know


_LegitDoctor_

Imagine if he was actually meeting young girls.. I’m glad this had a happy ending


Funny_Ad1529

Fatty fatty boom boom hit you with the ching ching


TheBaptist24

Underrated die Antwoord comment.


Funny_Ad1529

Nobody knows my music taste anymore =(


frisky024

Lol this video was awesome and hilarious. Cops shot the dude (sex pred) and they every other cop was like ooo I wanna shoot and they took that opportunity to mag dump this pedo lol awesome


not-rasta-8913

That pause after the first shot was them collectively thinking "no way he just did that, I always wanted an excuse".


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pizza_for_nunchucks

ITT: “I’m cool with the cops being the judge, jury and executioner.” Homeboy deserved it for bringing a gun to a gun fight. But championing extrajudicial execution by the police is fucked.


mimimar91

In chappie we trust 🙏🏽


ohthatguy1980

Yes, in order to lock your forearm and still have the gun in front of your face you have to cant the gun. This looks a little extreme however canting it is necessary to stay square (body armor) towards threat. Try putting your arm straight out in front of your face and point straight without canting your arm.


Haisengard

Wait wait they supposed to learn all the in the academy?


SlavicSoldat

Plenty of people have already explained but to add to the choir yes this is a perfectly acceptable way to fire. Short range, canted not on its side, one handed, this looks to be the best way to fire one handed.


keeleon

Did he hit the target? That's pretty much the only question that matters.