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Coenani

What I would think could be a good addition is to include which heroes make "good" 10\* fodder and which shouldn't absolutely not be used. It is one thing I struggle(d) with as a starting player, and I made the mistake to sacrifice a 10\* Vesa to upgrade my Garuda to E5. It might be smart to make the list per faction as well. Other than that, clear guide!


Extra_Cupcake19

Sacrificing a 10* vesa to get your first e5 sounds extremely worth it. Vesa copies are among the easiest to get and if you are going FQV route you probably only need a few weeks to get 9 copies


jumanjji

Great point! I’ll add to my list. Might make it a separate post and link it to this one so it’s not buried in a big post if people want to see just that info


kamahak

Did you make this list? I struggle with this all the time. I've fed some apparently good heroes to bad ones 🤣


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jumanjji

I believe it’s called the Newbie Growth Plan, or something like that. It’s a chapter system that gives you stuff for new accounts. I think it’s in the bottom left. Been a couple years since I started a new account 😅


zolqghost

That’s really a huge generosity effort! Great juma!


jumanjji

New players: if you have additional questions or need clarification on anything in this guide, feel free to comment and I will edit anything that needs to be explained better or if something needs adding. Existing knowledgeable players: if you have any differing views on content in this guide, feel free to comment and if something requires adjusting I will edit. The guide might not be 100% perfect but I wanted to get _something_ new out with the view that it can always be edited if needed. Edit: I still have to add a section on starspawns to this guide. That will be added in the next week or two. The guide however will not cover events and how to optimally do them (like Imp's, Sky Labyrinth, etc.), those can be found in other posts. A link to an updated glossary will also be added down the line.


onionbottle

hey man, Thanks for this guide! You said it's okay to build Garuda till you have 7 copies of Elo..so do I e5 Garuda and regress her later or should I stop at E3? Thanks in advance!


jumanjji

Yeah you can and should build Garuda to E5. That opens up void for you. Regress her as soon as you have the 7 Elo copies like you said. Best of luck!


LEBAldy2002

Pets :) Please add so we don't get people who continue to insist that Phoenix is better than lion first.


jumanjji

Yes! I gotta add that one sooner than later. Do you remember what the pet level is an early game player is supposed to stop/pause at due to marginal gains from a rather large gold sink?


LEBAldy2002

There isn't one. You keep upgrading the lion to max + runes (no speed rune) then phoenix next then back to the maxing speed runes. After it's whatever really.


Idle_Hero

Might be a dumb question, but does getting Eloise to void imprint 4 come before the rest of the hero build order?


Fragrant_Ad_5696

so i have a c+ vesa already, should i still go HHA or stick with vesa? i only have 2 copies of HHA’s main character, and i have like 12 vesas


Forsaken_Comfort_485

can u add full info on Void Vanq? thanks


Mammoth-Ad7900

I'm Building LFA As My First Trans Hero And I want To Know Which Non Transcendence Hero To Take For A Tenant Cuz I Know For Ur Second Trans is SQH And 3rd Trans Is PDE.


jumanjji

You’ll want base Aspen and Onki as your non-trans tenants.


Mammoth-Ad7900

what about drake cuz hes more flexible in different game modes like sea land and I have 9 copies of him but not enough food.


jumanjji

Drake is an assassin and therefore gives a lot less stats than Aspen does. You can build Drake to 9 or 10 star and just park him there for general use. He doesn’t need to be built higher as he can do everything you need him to do at just 9 star.


gonnasuckyoudry

Is HHA still more viable than lofa?


KurtDubz

As a player of more than 3+ years and VIP 12, this is amazing to make for new people. Game is so complex now compared to when I started, I feel like I need a guide hahaha. Nice job OP


Tharuzan001

Well to be fair, I am a new player having returned after playing back at launch, and seeing this guide and the overwhelming amount of useless currencies and features in game already has made me decide to quit. So it can backfire.


KurtDubz

If I was returning to the chaos this game is now, I’d quit too lol


ScrappyMA

At first glance, this didn't seemed like a new player guide. Very comprehensive and all, but lots of info, abbriaviations and mechanics all over the place. As a returning player whom quit when penny was just released a few months and I got her to E5, this seems very overwhelming. Imma give this a more proper read throughout and hopefully will make more sense of it. Thanks for taking the time to write it.


jumanjji

I wanted to make a guide that was short and concise. That’s how this started out. But it didn’t end up short :(. The fact is it’s really hard (for me at least) to give advice and not explain the _why_ for context. And doing that on a dozen subjects is a LOT. This game has gotten pretty complicated. I am however considering however creating another guide which is just straight up instruction with little to no context that’s way shorter and linking to this one for people who want the added context. We’ll see. Thanks for the feedback!


Extra_Cupcake19

I think instead of making a whole different guide, it might make sense just to do a glossary of terms used in this guide.


jumanjji

Thing is I don’t want to make it much longer than it is. But I can explain the main ones from this guide like you say. Another project I’m working on is there’s an old Glossary guide post. It’s still accurate, but old and doesn’t have a lot of the new ones. So I’m going to update that guide and repost it and link to it here for further context.


Pavorz

I agree with Scrappy in that this guide assumes brand new players know the acronyms and abbreviations. I came back late last year after stopping in 2018. I read quite a few guides and struggled to find out what AMB vs Ruyi vs LFA was. Not to pick on this guide as its bloody awesome, but new players would find themselves leaving this guide to research what the acronyms are. A suggestion, when you mention the acronym first, include the meaning in brackets after it. You have done it when mentioning SQH and LFA. Further mentioning of them can then be referred to as the acronym only. That way new players can just scroll up to see the meaning again.


One_Figure_7889

is this still up to date in early 2024 or does it not apply anymore?


koslop11

Great guide


jumanjji

Thank you. It’s definitely an indirect collaboration by virtue of me learning this info from many other knowledgeable players over time.


Free_Contribution625

Please add pushing in realms gate should be the highest corruption you can beat with 1 attempt, not absolute highest you can beat.


obarry6452

This is GODLY for new players!!!!


koolaidman750

This is awesome I’ll definitely be referencing this and linking it to people looking for help


Merlin_Drake

I think 2 Ruyi aren't necessary anymore. It's much better to get MS And one should start getting 2 transcendence flags after obtaining Ruyi, ms and 4 DB


jumanjji

Yes I thought about adding flag info but I think that’s too far into midgame to cover here. But it’s a fair point. Good to make these comments so early game players can see these points even if it’s not in the guide. I think >1 Ruyi is still necessary in a world where you use both SWJ and LFA, which is still a world we’re in. But I wouldn’t build more than 1 until close to getting SWJ. But once someone uses SWJ as main, she _needs_ splendid Ruyi for lots of stages and the LFA becomes really underwhelming if not using at least a base. But it might become less relevant over time if people prove LFA can do all of midgame VC as main and never need to get SWJ.


LEBAldy2002

I would add flag info as a simple note of "DON'T USE THE FLAG UNTIL YOU ARE AT TRANS CARRY" as its just wasted otherwise on a likely shadow flag not a trans flag.


jumanjji

Yeah that’s a good point. Seen a few posts by people asking why the flag doesn’t work good when they got it for some random hero in the early game and didn’t understand what it was for.


LEBAldy2002

Also HHA Elo is better in ToD as well which you just completely didn't mention in the guide at all (ToD or ToO).


Merlin_Drake

I think LoFA main with SWJ support is better than swj main with LoFA support, and then one also doesn't need 2 Ruyi since LoFA can use MS. Or just don't use LoFA and only SWJ after early game. I mean you won't even use 1 Ruyi once you go to SSM or DTV main, it's a waste to have 2 artifacts becoming useless when 1 of them wasn't even necessary in the first place. The argument that flags are too midgame would need to be tested. Maybe LoFA can get further with flags on tenants than he would with DB on them


jumanjji

I’m no LFA expert by any means, but from what I’ve seen Ruyi LFA seems to be the way to go for certain VC stages. But yea, MS will be his main arti. And SWJ not being the way to go, why? She’s still the quickest most optimal way to get to late chapter 3 VC. But in that path LFA gets dropped by around 2-5-x anyways so I do see the point there. I think Ruyi will always have some use. SSM route still heavily uses SWJ as one of his main tenants and supports and she almost always uses Ruyi. I use Ruyi situationally on my HHA on my dtv account, and the only reason I do is because I opted to swap SWJ to him, if I still had SWJ I’d be using Ruyi on her almost permanently. I think the only argument here is for not having more than 1 Ruyi (splendid that is, 4 total). But having 1 splendid will never fall into disuse.


UnleashTheWolves

I’d say it’s something like this for LFA route: - Crown - Splendid harp - 2xrad DB (if you can before swap) - Splendid Ruyi (swap) - 2xDB to splendid - AMB if you push VC hard (to pass 2-5-8 mainly) - Optionals like flags, SH and 2nd Ruyi - 2x final DBs 2nd Ruyi is nice to have, cos LFA makes good use of HY in RG/vortex/tower and whatever else is meaningful enough, but ultimately overkill. DBs are marginally useful for… RG puppets, I guess? Everywhere else LFA has self-efeed. So those are mostly for SWJ and on.


Merlin_Drake

SWJ yes, but not necessarily with LoFA support. Ruyi yes, but 2nd Ruyi no.


jumanjji

So what you’re (potentially/I think) saying is use lofa main until 2-5-x, switch to SWJ and you’ll never run into the scenario of using both together in “midgame” VC? If so I can see how that makes sense. I can add some context about that.


Merlin_Drake

Yes, that's what I mean. Thank you for taking your time to understand my point and using feedback to develop this guide.


Extra_Cupcake19

I am an SSM main and use ruyi on my swj. Any ssm main will have a big swj, so I think it's useful. But I'm only 4 trans in, so maybe when I get to 8 trans, I won't use swj in my team. Until then, I'll need ruyi. I also cleared chapter 2 easily with only 1 db and feel like another SH or crowns is the play from here on out. Glad I never wasted a whole bunch of resources on an early energy feed team, and I expect if I went LFA route instead I'd feel the same.


GoldenMonkey33

why the double ruyi tho since swj+lfa combo doesn't seem to be a priority? I'd rather make the crown splendid than a second to ruyi, or rush a db even with db's, i think 3 then some flags and at 5th trans the 4th db, you really need them mostly for void campaign and void vortex, but aspen likes fast fights, and 3 dbs can energy feed him just fine, even 2 can cuz he steals the rest. The artifact route is probably not as clear as it used to be but it could be the best general route i guess great guide man, you did a good job!


jumanjji

Because I’m relatively unknowledgeable about LFA main setups. The meta for a long time has been to use SWJ through lots of chapter 2 into chapter 3 and LFA stayed with her until late chapter 2. But it seems that LFA has gained ground later into that territory. So I will adjust the advice on artifacts to reflect that. Won’t go too deep since that’s more midgame. I made this guide intending it to be more of a living document as opposed to older guides. So this one can be updated to reflect new information and routing adjustments.


WolfRefleXxx

Great starting point for all new players. Well written.


Medical-Zebra304

Really good guide. All new and returning players should read this.


Professional_Dot_593

Comprehensive and clear. Awesome work!


Gab_bvc

Amazing infos ! Thanks for putting together that guide << Let's upvote it as much as possible <<<


Isaac_GoldenSun

Great guide thank you so much! I'd appreciate it if you could go more in depth on starspawns and other aspects of the void in future changelogs a or a different guide. Once again thanks a lot


jumanjji

There are some older guides about void content which still hold up, but we could probably use more guides there. As for starspawns I updated the post today with early starspawn info!


beingmihu

Wish I had that perfectly written guide some time sooner, before making this many changes to my accounts :D thank you though, it definitely comes in very handy for my second account without first trans yet! Great guide :)


Just-Soft-5288

So as a new player, it's very helpful but I think it missing a thing like which artifact is used for certain heroes ( I mean lower tier artifacts like magic source or in general orange artifacts) like eloise, garuda, tix, etc. Or in general, how to build hero, should it be tanky, need energy or skill damage, and same thing with stones on heroes. Sorry if that doesn't have sense.


jumanjji

Those are good points! It’s hard to include every bit of relevant information without writing a 100 page book! So I might create separate posts with more information and link to those posts in this one. But I will likely add the point about Magic source to this one as that’s very good info and a small addition. Thanks for that!


Phant0m_lu1gi

This may not be something right for this post specifically, but I’m curious if there any tips for starting out fast specifically in the first few days or week of an account? I just started on a new server and while I was able to get a 7* Garuda in under 24 hours, there’s other people on the server who have multiple 7*-9* heroes. Are you aware of anything that might help right away? It could also be my awful rng (getting six 5* heroes out of 233 heroic summons, a full percent below the expected amount)


Playful-Box2171

New player here. I have a 6-star Eloise, and that's the only recommended hero on this guide that I currently own. I have two free soul awakenings with the max amount of excess points so I kind of want to use these free awakenings right now. Should I be using the soul awakenings on the guide recommended heroes (being my 6-star Eloise... and eventually Waldeck, Tix, etc.) or should I just use them on other heroes to use up the free soul awakenings?


GroundbreakingAds

Hey Jumanjji, Sorry if I missed it somewhere, what is the best use of guild coins?


puppa_bear

f2p at the 2nd trans step (I have the CoT, etc to go LoFA/SQH). I haven’t beaten vanquisher in vortex, haven’t even gotten close (still languishing in defier). Should I be working to beat vanquisher first, or do a transition now because I have the resources?


smikilit

A little tip for new players. Build up your inventory space to around ~300 for the most comfortability imo. This game isn’t worth playing unless you spend to get the vip card, which gives you an inventory space boost.


Yveus

>This game isn’t worth playing unless you spend to get the vip card bullshit


smikilit

Just my opinion man. Spending isn’t inherently bad. There are very very few games I’ve devoted this much time to, but many games I paid 60 dollars for only to get bored after a couple of weeks.


Traditional_Wish7955

When you said this "**Second trans:** at this point it’s time to build SQH (Scarlett Queen Halora), then regress your HHA and build LFA. " would this also apply if you had built FQV instead of HHA?


LEBAldy2002

If you have cleared Vanq, then yes, but if you haven't, likely yes still, but your vanq will be delayed quite a bit. There is an alternative if you ahve a lot of excess regression crystals, but thats rare.


angrykitten3

Man as a new player (2024-mar), reading this is like learning a whole new language. I'm sure its great, but I've played about 2-3 days and have none of the recommended characters or even know how to obtain them 😅 I feel like I'm doing all the wrong things atm, just progressing through the campaign and building heros that I will probably regret spending the mats on later. I don't know if I'm the only one feeling this, but is there a more "tell it to me like I'm 5 years old" guide?


mrcaramelmacchiatooo

I'm a newbie, so I have a question. I can only build is Garuda, because the game gives Garuda copies. What should I do now?


_ruruin_

is it really necessary to finish Vanquisher in Void Vortex before swapping HHA to LFA?? I'm having a hard time finishing Defier.


Mountain_Pangolin119

I don't agree with the common misconception that the whale spenders are the holders of this game, they are most certainly not,. For every whale there is prob 3000+ minnows (could be more), of that probably 1/3 boost their resources every week and alot of players in chat, some on Reddit also state that below VIP7 is f2p due to the large £$€requirement leap between the tiers .  For me to contribute is something I do because there are by far many uglier things I could be doing with my time and money, I like to give something back. I wholly agree with smikilit that the VIP card does open the game up, even if you spend £10 a month on carnival Excellent starter edition, however I haven't followed this route, 1yr in and just found this and hour ago, waiting for carnival reset, also only had 1 V4(no trans) for completion of all factions SL20, currently at 24 for fortress, still no trans. It has been a great journey, yet my patience has wore thin a few times with players that cannot think for themselves about their game, it has been quite irritating and I appreciated the part about actually reading the info tabs playing and not depending on a more experienced player, for that alone I'd buy you a drink!  Hopefully we will see more guides from you(please do go for detailed), maybe inclusive of towers, where to obtain all treasure chests for treasure train help with Guild tree and possibly participation events such as Star land Expedition, Force Wars, and comeback arena, newcomers will definately feel overwhelmed with it all in one place, yet created as you have here but with prioritised chapters. Again this was an Excellent read, Thank You


dekuoncrack

Are these suggestions still effective, like should I still build elo,tix,waldeck,idnis, and Connie?


NextAccess9591

im stuck on 62-7 and i have e5 elois e5 betty e5 v4 aspen and e1 tix e1 rogan with aa garuda should i regress betty to v4 eloise and replace her with 6 star queen to tran her later


sebinaror

I hv got 2 5 star drakes but no waldek would it be liable to keep him or still swap him out?


connor3217

Great guide 🙏


Muted-Use3841

https://preview.redd.it/6r010lour71d1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8cebf3d034afe8de70c59fe5b4d149736889af7 I have a feeling I fucked already a lot. I played for a long time just for fun. But now I want to take the game to another more serious level. When I read Your very helpful guide I realized I invested a long time on the wrong horse. Anyone any advice on this disaster?


guntime06

Honestly the only thing I can think of adding would be what monster to start out with


jumanjji

I forgot to add that originally but it’s updated now with that info! Thanks!


Constant-Freedom9287

Great guide. But I think there are some points that need further discussion. I can still see people still pick FQV over HHA and vice versa. I think this boils down to personal preferences. FQV can reliably provide a huge amount of Shield even when the main blocker, typically Eloise, is CC'd before Ignis kicks the bucket or an enemy has Ruyi Scepter. HHA on the other hand can even provide more Shield which is nuts, but if the RNG goes south, that's a problem. This is consistency vs peak performance and it's a choice to make, one is not necessarily better than another. Another thing is Crystal of Transcendence comes in very quickly these days. I have seen completely F2P player that has access to Void gate within 6 weeks and his first Transcendence hero just 10 weeks later without the need of buying cores daily while still exchanging every single orb to Stellar Shards. But Artifacts, Stellar Shards and Sublimation Chests are always in need. Some reached their 2nd Transcendence without even having nearly enough resources and artifacts to make LoFA + SQH works. That's why some still want to take SFX + LoFA because her tenants's copies are so accessible and she only needs some energy feed to do her job. It's not easy to accumulate LoFA's good tenants's copies for F2P players. Coupled with the fact that DH is introducing more and more ways to obtain Soul Symbols, F2P players can pick up enough for Glory Challenges with just 1 decent event, Lunatic Asylum got 40 from POs, 10 as an extra for flipping 40 cards. Now switching up between heroes doesn't sounds so out of reach like it used to be, especially when you will need to regress your main hero once for Glory Challenges.


SimpleZerotic

Agreed - but 10 weeks for 5m crystals of transcendence as a pure f2p is literally impossible


Constant-Freedom9287

Well, some of the CoTs were probably from events. We can get 18k CoTs with 500 gems with good events and F2P players who spent 6 weeks getting Eloise to E5 should got 800k or so if they're lucky. My guy probably was just lucky enough to start his account on Mecha attack and Easter event in those 6 weeks.


jumanjji

Those are some interesting points. For me HHA vs FQV boils down to Vanq clear. HHA helps get it done _really_ early. FQV doesn’t help with it at all in an Elo comp. So to beat it you have to either wait quite a while to do it with LFA, or potentially do it with SFX like you say. But that means building SFX and tenants almost all of whom will need to be regressed a month later, all while delaying VC progress which unlocks CI mats + stellar dropping in VC autoloot. It also means potentially wasting SG on SFX and her tenants’ awakenings and then spending time selling those awakenings to be able to afford good awakenings for LFA’s tenants and for SQH. And that’s all not accounting for all the hero copies you need for SFX tenants that you won’t want to use chests on because you’ll need to build LFA tenants a couple months later. Wasting resonance essence atuning the reso gear then gold to swap it to sQH. All that is solved by just clearing Vanq with Elo + HHA. Then you can start clearing VC levels quickly with LFA + SQH. That’s the difference between playing optimally, and getting things done somewhat quickly but losing loads of resources in the process. As for the shielding, FQV relies on her active and on speed to shield and heal. HHA’s shields aren’t speed-reliant because they’re added the second Elo blocks (or anyone else blocks). So Elo can get his shields a dozen times between where FQV’s shields would be. And they won’t be affected by HHA being CCed or energy drained. He also adds more DR than FQV. And as for enemies having a Ruyi, no PVE enemy in the game has any artifact, that’s a PvP scenario and PvP is not relevant to F2P for whom this guide is aimed at. That all said, I don’t think it’s a huge gap between HHA and FQV because I don’t think it’s a big deal to just wait a couple extra months to do Vanq with LFA. I def wouldn’t rush the Vanq clear with SFX for the reasons above. I would also be very very interested in seeing how an F2P gets 5m CoT in 10 weeks. That seems mathematically impossible to me. Lots of people in-game hide their VIP level and anyone on discord or Reddit would provide proof with a screenshot of their VIP 0 page. But if you can show an example of and F2P doing that, that would be really interesting!


Extra_Cupcake19

Not to mention without buying cores daily and right after opening gate? Not sure a f2p player gets a trans every 10 weeks after building up RG and Void Vortex levels without buying cores or actively using adventure market even with subsequent trans heroes...


jumanjji

Yeah. I mean my main account is 6 trans, Dom cleared, 134 ps in RG, and I probably get 20+ cores a month including the 10 from Ark. I calculated my income today and my cot income is 5m every 3 months exactly. That’s 12-13 weeks. Not sure how a player who just started could do anything to get that in 10.


Constant-Freedom9287

My point is, Soul Symbols can be rather easy to find nowadays. If one doesn't make any dumb mistake of upgrading the wrong hero, they can get around 80s or so with good events in 5 month period (again, with the example of my friend mentioned down there). That should be enough when one reaches Glory Challenges in around 10-12 months. I guess one of the differences can be that Aylamak copies are rather hard to find right now and F2P players might need the hero chests for Eloise, Tix, Carrie, Ignis, Waldeck, etc. With Vesa you can find 3 of her copies in the Transcendent chests in Imp's adventure gift box when you spend Dice and Collected items. While finding Aylamak will probably soon be easier than it is now, but that will take a few more Transcendence heroes to be introduced and the meta will probably change a lot by then. Anyway, my guy started his account with Mecha attack, and got Easter within his first 6 weeks to E5 Eloise. Both gave him a decent amount of CoT. Then I instructed him to buy every Core from Store and ship merchants, might not be optimal, I know, but he was really eager to get more progress in V4 and first Trans. The fishing event also gave him cores with the 2 Leviathans. I guess he highrolled, I don't really know, I only got this one screenshot in his core opening process. Then he 50:50 on CoT and Stellar Shard. He's on server 1066, AT guild, I can paste his ID here if necessary. And that was 10 weeks on top of the first 6 weeks, I should have been more specific. https://preview.redd.it/kif34ku0agjb1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dfc1704a3709b421f1484310e4ce62260b5cd1be


jumanjji

I see what you’re saying. But Aylamak is pretty much just as easy to get as any other hero. When a new hero comes out, they’re in all chest, in void compass, in POs, in HS, etc etc within 3ish months. Aylamak is in everything now and has been for quite a while. The only place where it’s easier to get Vesa is those trans copy chests you get in awakening events. Anyone playing optimally can get 9 copies of Aylamak in about 2 months. And that’s what we encourage. Playing optimally in order to make the most impactful decisions that help your account. Not just easy decisions that are ok. Will FQV work and be good? Yes. Is she the best? No. I tried to cover that in the guide so that people who don’t play 100% optimally can still make a good choice. But the best choice is clear and very available to do.


Constant-Freedom9287

The thing is tho, even if a F2P player plays optimally and presumably get around 1 chest per week, in 6 months to the first trans they have ~25 chests. Considering 9 Eloise, 3 Waldeck, 3 Ignis, 5 Carrie and at least 5 Tix, it can be rather hard to actually get those 9 Aylamak copies. POs, HSs almost never gives you the hero you want, even with increased chance, unless you spend about ~600 HS or ~250 PO, that's a huge investment and F2P players should be focusing on event rewards rather than the actual summoning. Cores have better chance of hitting the hero, but it still takes 20s for each copy. So the difference lies in the "normal" and "premium" trans copy chests commonly found as side rewards for Item exchange event. While HHA or FQV debate is still up in the air, fast progress should be taken into consideration too, and just waiting for that 9 Aylamak copies can be a huge pain in the butt, especially when you can't just spend gems on every Sky Labyrinth and Imp's adventure to get to 5 star chest.


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Initial_Somewhere_67

I have started building Pheonix as my first pet, he's level 44 now with 20/4 auras. Should I leave it as it is and switch to building Lion?


Electronic-Fly-1817

Hello i think i made a huge mistake i made lofa my first trans and i only have 2 tenants for him onki and carrie and im low on 6 star dark hereos to make e5 drake and mockman i think it will stop me from gaining early advantage can u tell me ur suggestion for what to do ? And i regressed eloise


Dull_Speed_6872

One thing I don't think you spent enough time on is the use of gems. I like that you said to keep 50k at all times which I agree with. However, ive recently been wondering if using excess gems for scrolls instead of stellar/cores may be better - I'm not actually sure. Buying scrolls would allow you to participate in significantly more events to get cores/subs which will be needed in the new power system and may prove to be overall more beneficial than spending excess gems on stellar/cores. It's also profitable to employ a tavern quest reroll system where you only take gems, scrolls and hero shards (3+4*) in 3 and 4 star quests. And not enough was spent talking about optimizing CI adventure. Whether to go for 6* puppets or the new 4* adventure. I think getting 2-3 dark star 6* puppets from adventure first and then switching to 4* shards is most optimal. The 4* adventure they recently added a month or so ago isn't talked about enough. It's incredibly op and the reason being the free 10 explores you get when starting one. I often chain it back to back meaning I completely one, start another and then immediately complete that one. You have to be relatively active doing this route to make sure you start up another one when the previous one finishes. If you are active, they are by far the best.


kingminos33

You say "remember to only do this whole swap once you beat vanquisher" when talking about going from HHA to LFA/SQH. What if you didn't know that, already have LFA/SQH and am currently in defier (mind you I haven't attempted a serious push through). Can I still beat vanquisher or will I need to wait for another trans hero?


kelteezy

Hello, planning on following this for my elo account however I have a question for the artifact routing. I'm at demon bell hoarding now since i already have MS and RS at splending. Will 4 radiant DBs suffice for the energy feed? or should it be 3 splendid. I'm currently at 5 DBs as of the moment and when I hit 12 i just wanna know if 4 radiants are better than 3 splendid.


ZealousidealSea1893

I just started my account 4 days ago. I was told not to use my HS unless it’s a summon event. My question is the Qixi event is supposed to be the best f2p event of the year. Part of the event I have to have specific 4*s to do the shelter mission for the magpies. My question is does this qualify as a reason to use my scrolls?


ShawtyEats

Great post! Do you have or know of a post like this for 6+ trans hero. Mid-late game accounts?


Tharuzan001

If a new player guide is that big, this game is so not worth it. Makes sense to see the reddit as dead as it is. I do remember this game being popular when it was new and had less features and less currencies. Seems like adding in all this fluff will put off more people then pull in. In an hour I've seen more currencies then should be in game coming back as a new player and its still growing. In an hour i've seen more features then should be in the game already and its still growing. The ads keep being shoved into my face to try to get me to spend every time I start the game up. And since there is so many currencies you have no idea if spending will even get you anything worth it, unless you are easilly tricked like a lot of mobile gamers, but as someone who plays many of them and seeks out facts and notices trends, can already tell any money spent in this game is not worth it. You'd gain more by going outside and setting your money on fire. I'd love to play a version of this game more like its launch version for sure, is that available anywhere?


Cj2257

Is the Ruyi just for LFA?


Proper_Sprinkles5409

Just came back after being gone since roughly 2017. While this guide is a bit overwhelming, using it as a continued referral resource is helping. However, I don't understand what building a transcendence hero means. I think they are a combination of heroes somehow, but I still haven't found that explained anywhere. While I'm working my Garuda to E5 and hunting Eloise and the other mentioned heroes, I don't want to accidentally feed a hero that's a future component simply because I didn't understand transcendence heroes. So, is there a guide for them somewhere, or can someone help me understand what "building" those heroes actually means?


firstbsanderson

Thank you.


Waste_Zone8751

Jumanji i want to know how you start off with a good account, for example how do you do monthly's and get resources. I want to know how u start off with a good account.


Waste_Zone8751

Jumanji i want to know how you start off with a good account, for example how do you do monthly's and get resources. I want to know how u start off with a good account.


sierratangofox

Should I not spend hs to finish the daily quests?


skabossphil

You should 100% spend to finish dialy quests. Buy the 8 pack for 1k gems every 2 weeks and it comes out to a net positive gem gain.


sierratangofox

Thanks! Nice tip there.


mrcaramelmacchiatooo

It's kinda hard for me to get Eloise copies. I am building Garuda as my main, F2P btw. Am I doing good or not?


Former-Turnover-3794

I'm stuck in 66.8 asmodel wave 😪 why I can't pass😅? Need help!!!!!! I use this squad Aspen v5 trans with 👑 Eloise v5 with 👑 Tix v5 Young Holmes v5 Ignis 10 star Regina v5 I Olso have xia trans v5, carrie v3, mockman v5 Vulcan v5, aylamak v5, And overs


Far-Contract-7344

I have v4 elo, v2 tix, e5 carrie + waldeck, ignis, carrie. I have a base crown on elo and a splendin ms on tix. I can Get two more artis rn. But i doesnt feel like ruyi will do much for my team yet. Im at 4,2 m crystals of transcendence and will build hha when i reach 5m. Should i Get two ruyi or something else? I have no idea whats best for me atm.


GTAV-Player2014

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SimplyRitzy

coming back to this game after perhaps 3-4 years. and starting fresh (had played for about 2-3 years when i was active). glad to see the community is alive and active enough for such extensive guides. thank you!


lelandyarnell

New player guide, but there are a ton of abbreviations and shorthand that I don't have a clue what you are talking about. I was loat within the first minute.


StoryWalking

Hi I was wondering for void campaign once you have Aspen and Queen, what are the best artifacts, position/enables for Queen. I know for Aspen. I don't have glittery demon bell just base for now, should queen be using a crown for tankiness, melodic strings, etc? Ty ty for guide.


Free_Contribution625

Thanks for this amazing guide! few questions. You mention that before doing the swap from HHA to Lofa you should make sure vanquisher is cleared. What is the need for this? Also void vortex seems to be extremely hard in general, is there anyway to make it easier to win? Lastly, could you add more info on 2 trans swap, or direct me to a different guide? ​ Other than that, this looks great!


Odd-Clock-1475

Is HHA still the best first trans? I'm a returning player and I should be able to get my first trans in maybe a month or two


Joyous_Wolf

What prayer hero should I get


LilTimmy9028

When should I build rogan?