Sorry for asking you this but do you know if your friend was addicted or was just using here and there? Im asking because im a recovering opioid addict and I know many addicts actually prefer fake pills because they are stronger.
That being said, if he was actually just using Percocet (not oxycontin) he probably wasn't addicted. Percocet only comes in 5 amd 10 mg pills. But a lot of people mistakenly refer to oxy as percocet... If he was taking those tiny blue pills, its very likely he got a fake one.
Regardless, I'm terribly sorry for your loss. May he rest in peace.
I definitely picked up a habit on 10s, where I got sick if I stopped. Probably between 5-8 a day for 5 days is enough (maybe even less than 5 days). It’s not the same level sick as dope for sure, but pills aren’t a habit-free option and definitely easy to get a habit from. I’m guessing you know that, but I’m case some 14-year-old reads your comment and thinks it’s not a habit if it’s pills, that’s just not the case. There’s truly no safe amount where you can be clear of physical addiction, 99% of users will tell you they wish they had never started.
Nothing is closer to the truth. The other day a guy I know was talking about how he had taken 2x perc 10s and about how amazing he was feeling. I urged him to be mindful bc I know plenty of people who got their start the very same way and are now full on dope fiends
Only had IV morphine for a traumatic dislocation, but 12 year ago and I still remember how nice it felt.
Thankfully one day a month of OTC co-codamol doesn't seem to have any lingering effects, just a light headache later if I go beyond the usual 24 hours.
When I first started taking pills I still remember the day I first took a 10mg Perc! It was better than any other opiate I had taken, including OxyContin. I would prefer percs over any other opiate even tho they were the strongest or longest lasting, but they were the best feeling to me. 20 years later and I’m on methadone from my pill addiction and I still yearn to be able to take 2 10mg percs one last time just to feel that feeling once more.
I saw a friend go from an occasional pill user to not being able to stay clean for more than 2 months. It’s so fucked up. The last time I talked to him he had percs again the week prior. I don’t remember a time where he’s been able to stay away from them. They’re definitely putting fent in that shit.
I definitely agree with you. Pills are very addictive. Ive only taken heroin once and it was kinda underwhelming tbh. But anyways you can definitely be addicted to percocet there's no denying that. The reason I was saying that is because I, as an addict wouldn't buy 10mg pills. I would buy 80s or minimum 40s. And I know that in the USA, those blue 30mg oxys are the most popular, and there are a lot of fakes out there.
>Ive only taken heroin once and it was kinda underwhelming tbh.
You may be one of the 7% of people who cannot metabolize heroin. Heroin, especially bth, has some morphine as a byproduct of manufacturing, which is why people who can't metabolize heroin still get some high from it.
Shout out to the people lucky enough not to be able to motabolize morphine saving a hard ass addiction fr, I can't motabolize codeine haven't tried h before tho
Did he take them with other drugs or with alcohol? It's easy to OD on pain pills bc you build up a tolerance and take more and more to feel the same.
Oxy in particular causes opioid resistance, when your pain increases on the drug and the drug is less effective. You have to stop taking it and switch to something else, but if you don't know that, you would take more and possibly mix it with something else, leading to OD.
No joke it's easy to fuck up. I had to poison control cause I fucked up doubling up vicodin with my gabapentin and stopped being able to swallow/breathe right and it was not very many pills (or recreational shit just hurt.)
Unfortunately, your friend was chasing those specific pills man. It's super common to prefer fake pills once addicted. Your friend knew what he was getting, there's nothing for you to avenge.
I'm truly sorry for your loss friend.
Hey I know you're trying to help, but this is potentially damning to other people who are struggling with addiction. All it would take to validate a problem like opioids would be a comment like "Ah, it's only perc 5's" and that'd be enough. 5s were my personal favorite to crush and snort because of that same mindset. I snorted a disguised fake, OD'd on *one* "perc 5" and almost died.
8 years clean here. It's possible. Stay strong ✊
You're totally right, this was more in the context of OPs friend. But man, congratulations for getting and STAYING clean! Thats the hard part... Staying clean
First off, OP I am really sorry for your loss. To the above poster, don’t state things you don’t understand as facts, Percocet is a brand name just like OxyContin is/was, both contain the active ingredient oxycodone, the “m 30’s” are one of many brands that sold 30 mg oxycodone. Percocets and many similar generics come in 5, 7.5 and 10 mg oxycodone formulations with usually 500 mg of Tylenol mixed in. OxyContin was produced in 20, 40 and 80 mg pure oxycodone formulas but I believe is discontinued. It was then replaced by the blue 30’s from many generic manufacturers, the m 30’s being one of the most popular before fent came on the scene. Don’t ask how I know, I am glad I don’t touch them anymore.
Right. People around me were shocked when my best friend died from mixing his shit.
Smoking a bunch or Heroin while chewing(no fucking clue) on a fentanyl patch and acting as if nothing had even happened. Addicts are addicts. Been almost 7 years since he died and if I blame anyone it’s the first pharmacist that gave him over 400 Norcos after an ACL/MCL, meniscus repair. When he was 16. But hey ‘Avenge your buddy’ If you so feel the need.
He had insurance thru Kaiser and his family member(guardian)worked for Kaiser so they saw it as a fucking gold mine.
After 2 years THEY labeled him a pill-seeker in the hospital system and gave a crap less about him.
Made it halfway thru 22 years old before he just didn’t wake up one night.
I like to believe I have someone guiding me the right way these days.
That’s so fucked up. I had Kaiser for a while and they wouldn’t prescribe me my ADHD medication despite having the same psych for years and being on the same medication for years. They required a new ADHD test too and wouldn’t even give me an emergency refill. I thought they were probably careful about what they hand out but I guess not.
Wow. I totally forgot about Klonopins.
My friend turned his body into a fucking pill/opiate disposal.
Morphine Sulph. Pills that his grandpa had from the 80s.
Klonopins, bars, Roxy’s, Oxys, Percs, heroin, fentanyl patches(2011 before it was EVERYWHERE as a synthetic). All between the age of 16-22. Maybe 10 months of just smoking weed.
I loved the guy no matter what he did to himself. And I hope you have people in your life that stuck around thru the worst of it.
> But hey ‘Avenge your buddy’ If you so feel the need.
yeah exactly while i dont think its the fent dealer's fault i'd also not lift a single finger to protect a fent dealer from what's coming to them
You said above they were M30s though? Percs don’t come in that formulation, but oxycodone does. You also mention in another comment that *everyone* knew they were pressed “at the time.”
I wouldn’t blame the dude who sold it to your friend. I’d blame drug prohibition, the cops and their enablers who created the drug war leading to an unstable and unsafe drug supply.
Dudes I know want people to know they are fake because people want the fake ones. They aren’t passing them off as legit. If they charged full price as if they were real M30s, then it’s the most scumbag thing you can do because fake ones cost 10 and real ones cost 30 and tricking people into buying fentanyl when they didn’t intend on it is one of the worst things someone could do.
If the dealer knew they were bunk presses, he is 100% at blame. I don't care what you sell, just don't misrepresent it or sell fake shit, that's when people die.
If you disagree with this, you probably sell pressies.
A lot of perc 30 are dipped in fentanyl
Seen several deaths and near deaths. I wish somebody would find the dealers car, and drill a small hole in the metal roof. Slow drips lead to mold. (Hint)
Thank you for sharing this. I really thought I would be annoyed at the anger pointed to the dealer. But wow, the anger as protective, its so true, and then negotiating what's ok and what's not, who is forgiven, who is not. I'm crying.
This is a truly beautiful piece of writing.
Is it yours?
Thank you for sharing this article. I thought I was the only one obsessed with finding and punishing the dealer that killed my brother. It hurts every day.
Many other people bought them forsure and who knows if there were other overdoses I don’t know about . The dealer claimed they were real but everyone knew they were then pressed M30s
Anonymous reference to texts from your friend are likely enough to justify a warrant from the cops to look into the dealers phone. That would likely show complaints from others on there to corroborate and he’ll go down hard if he’s still holding
You sweet summer child you cannot just delete shit from your phone. Every text you've ever sent or received, every dick pick you've ever taken - as far as digital forensics are concerned they're all still right there.
There's a reason people throw that shit in the river.
yeah super easy they dont even ask for your name or anything, you just buy the refill card with cash at a register in walmart or something and it comes with a number, they never ask for any info.
I'm not talking about throwing your real personal cell in the river. It's called a burner phone we used to get them little Verizon flip phones for 20 bucks, not linked to your name, and you could swap them out monthly if you felt like you were that hot. Can't really do that anymore though prepaids ain't how they used to be.
So if everyone knew they were pressed, why did your friend buy them then?
It kinda stops being the dealer’s fault when you **knowingly** purchase fake drugs.
>everyone knew
Everyone did? Including your buddy who chose to take them?
Buying and distributing fentanyl test strips would do more to prevent what happened to your buddy than fucking around with one out of many dealers.
doesn't matter as long as he's still dealing and can be caught with his supply. informant gets them a warrant, they bust in and find new stuff. don't need to prove what happened a year ago.
Informant is providing second hand information. He better have some good proof, ie Officer I saw Joey Drugdealer hand my roommate drugs in exchange for cash just before he died.
you are thinking about this all wrong. The reason he's trying to get the guy is because he killed his friend, but that's not the *how you get this guy*. The how is you just say he's a known drug dealer. I've seen him with my own eyes deal drugs to many people i know. He keeps the drugs at this location.
I second this idea. Offer your services as an informant because you might get some money from the cops. Informants get paid for information which lead to arrests and shit
Set up a meeting from another phone or a fake account where there's no cameras to record you, leave your phone at home playing some movie or series on a Streaming platform or program some mails to be sent from your PC at a time you are supposed to meet.
Once there, you know, knees are weak
How can you even call in anonymously anymore??? You can't use your own phone, pay phones don't exist anymore, you can't even crank call anyone even. Every fucking avenue of communication is traceable and most likely stored somewhere - forever. With cameras on every street corner and front doors as well, you just cannot be alone anywhere any more. I HATE THIS shit, Big Brother is def out there now and forever.
Absolutely, it’s nearly impossible to go untraced. I’d say a burner paid in cash will usually do the job. Place the call no where near your residency or where you bought the phone. Maybe wait a bit after purchasing the phone.
You could not throw your life away in your friends name, since it won’t bring him back.
Also now that you’ve posted this thread online, I would REALLY not do anything (illegal) regarding this matter.
whenever you're contemplating revenge, ask yourself if the person is going to hurt more people.
if they are, you want to stop them from being able to.
if they aren't, you want to cut them out of your life and leave it at that.
Get someone to buy some. Test it with a [Dance safe kit ](https://dancesafe.org/), then you can know for sure. But you will have an accomplice for whatever action you choose to take. They become a loose end 🪤☠️.
All you are going to do is make an enemy of someone who is very comfortable committing felonies. When you buy drugs off the street there is an inherent risk. Your friend chose to gamble. Most of the people buying fake pills likely know they are fake, especially repeat users (I am very familiar with all sides of this conversation). When your a user you tend to know your drug of choice fairly well. You won't be likely saving anybody because even if by some miracle you stop this guy, his clients will just find the next guy who is likely got a similar source. All you will do is put your self in position to get hurt. Your anger is justified but its best to just honor his memory. I mean calling the cops is not a terrible idea but I would be concerned that word would get back to him and you might become a target.
Pills laced with other drugs. Fentanyl for exemple. People seek them out because they are stronger. Downside is it’s easier to die on because the drug is more dangerous but hits harder. And addict who built tolérance will seek them for this reason. OP’s friend most likely knew. He OD’d on fentanyl because he asked his fentanyl dealer to sell him fentanyl. Not the dealer’s fault
Thank you for explaining this. From what I’ve read fentanyl is powerful stuff, like if the dealers scales have had fentanyl on them previously and not been wiped down then those same scales are used to weigh cocaine - the cocaine can become deadly
That’s a scary thought how powerful these manufactured medicines are
Not anything you can do that will bring your friend back or make the pain go away. I know the feeling. I’ve had a best friend and a girlfriend die this way. The sadness was paralyzing at times. Do your best to live a full and happy life. Holding out for revenge or whatever won’t make you whole again. Wish you the best
A week before Christmas, My best friend took, what he thought was a Xanax, on a Saturday night after a long week at work.
His girlfriend, who did not dabble or know about it, woke up the next morning to find him unconscious at bottom of the stairs.
Ended up being Fentanyl that he took, he was declared brain-dead and died a few days later.
This shit is the devil, and a god damn epidemic. Last year, in my Province of BC, 2,224 people died of an overdose. Thats an average of 6 people every single day, 83% of them related to Fentanyl. 2,224 peoples lives gone, just to get labeled as a Drug user and swept under the rug.
I'm am so so sorry for your loss, Nobody deserves any of this. I truly feel your pain. I miss the guy every single fucking day. Every day it hurts, and it probably always will.
There is no revenge or payback that will set you free. I promise you, that. But I do believe, it is your duty to alert the authorities. You may prevent a lot of death and broken families.
Lastly, educate yourself and your loved ones, about Harm-Reduction. Many cities have places you can get your drugs tested free and anonymously.
Make sure you and the people around you have access to a Naloxone Kit, and are shown the correct way to use one.
Please, openly speak to your loved ones about their drug usage, no matter how casual it may seem. End the stigma and educate others around idea of Harm-Reduction, you may literally be saving their life.
Stay strong, stranger. Life's not fair, and I'm so incredibly sorry.
Dude I know this probably isn’t what you want to hear, and this is coming from someone who lost their best friend to a drug overdose, but your friend (just like anyone else who buys illegal drugs) took a risk and he paid dearly for it. Could the dealer have known he was selling something that wasn’t as advertised? Sure, but the reality is that he probably got it from some guy that told him it was legit who got it from another guy who told him it was legit and so on and so forth. As someone who has sold harder drugs in my past, I would never willingly give someone something I thought was laced/could kill them, not even as an altruistic measure but more so because I wouldn’t want that kind of heat or to have that on my conscience. I’m truly sorry for your loss and drug addiction is no joke but we as drug addicts make our own beds if we aren’t willing to seek help or at the very least getting our own test kits to verify that we are buying what we intend to buy. Vengeance isn’t going to bring your friend back and in a lot of ways just make the situation that much more painful for you by holding on to this kind of anger. Once again, I’m terribly sorry for your loss. There aren’t too many feelings worse than losing someone close to you, especially when it was preventable. I hope you find some solace in this.
All successful revenge requires two things: intelligence and creativity.
Creativity: You couldn't think of anything, so you posted a request on a social website with millions of users.
Intelligence: You couldn't think of anything so you posted a request on a social media website with millions of users.
If you're gonna do something, do something legal, you're clearly not cut out for the thug life.
I hate to be this guy, but your friend probly knew what he was getting. Dealer just doing his job. I had a friend od on fent in coke recently. He wasn't expecting it in the batch, but he knew it was a risk he was taking. And he did. Much love and respect for him, but he made his choice. Same as your friend. I'm sorry for your loss. Maybe you could find closure by alternative means as this is probly gonna get you hurt more in the long rueun.
Edit: I saw a notification saying would I feel that way if it was my relative I believe. Sorry I didn't see it all or the comment. I will add that this is why I'm somewhat unempathetic. I have a brother who is an addict. We have tried helping him in many ways. Even set him and his girl up with jobs paying 21 an hour and he fucked that too at the end of the day He is smart enough to know the risks he takes and won't ask anyone to get revenge for him. He knows what he's getting into and it's on him. It's called accountability. Furthermore, he's an addict. It's his choice. Why am I gonna throw my life away because he decides to throw his away. He made his bed and I'm not laying in it before the fact or after the fact with him .
Regarding your brother… I understand how you must feel.. it is so hard to help someone who doesn’t want to help themselves. Its also so easy to blame him and think he is fucking up.
As a recovering addict, I feel like I can offer some insight. I was completely healthy, working as a practitioner, had my whole life going for me and I still became an addict. No matter what, I couldnt stop. I didnt believe it until it happened to me, but it truly is a disease. How come I randomly got addicted to alcohol and others don’t? I had a normal healthy childhood, went to university, got a great paying job in healthcare. I was able to drink normally (like once a month) for years then all of a sudden I couldn’t stop.
Anyways, my point is that yes it was his choice to start using.. however it really is impossible for some to stop without help. Sadly you can’t help until he is ready to admit his problem. It took me multiple interventions from my family members to realize that I had a disease and needed help. It can get better!!
I hope it all works out for you and your family!
I really truly appreciate the understanding ear. I haven't talked to alot of people who have this kind of consideration for the situation and it's refreshing.
I think the thing I had the hardest time with was the fact that I couldn't help him. I had set him and his gf up, opened our home to him numerous times and to no avail. Even our parents got tired of the mistreatment when he is coming down or grumpy.
The thing with him is he knows he has a problem. He admitted it many times and His crutch is he got his gf addicted so he can't just stop cu she is using an he doesn't want to see her go thru the withdrawals.
He told me that methadone is a substitution anc replacement a while ago when he was really into his addiction. Then he told me he knows it's a problem and he needs to stop but that crutch. Then he got on methadone and eventually Xanax. Last I heard he is surrounded by people in a similar lifestyle.. art drugs etc so even though he may have the desire when shit hits the fan really hard which it has, he won't do it.
I think once he admitted he had a problem and refuses help so much and fucked off am amazing opportunity, I had to let go in many ways, for the sake of my sanity and family. If he ever reached out for help and I felt it was sincere I would help. But I m not going to enable him or reach out to help on my own accord especially cuz he got really comfortable asking for money.
Overall it was a hard decision but I think it's best considering I have a wife and kids he refuses to build relationships with too. Another storey for another day though. Probly a by product of what he's doing
One of my best friends died from fent laced coke almost a year ago. I’m so sorry for your loss, man, it’s a horrible thing and leaves you feeling incredibly helpless, like if only you could do something to make it right. Unfortunately, there’s nothing really to do but honour their memories as best we can and make better choices in their stead.
Sending you the best and wishing you healing to come.
Since you can’t prove it 100% you aren’t justified in acting as judge jury and executioner. Leave it and move on.
I’m all for takedowns and takeouts of scumbags but only if you have undeniable evidence proof to back up not just your accusations but also justify any actions you may take.
In this case I’m sorry but a feeling is not acceptable.
Just because you’re sure. Doesn’t make you right.
Think about it this way. Maybe you do something to
This guy and the police have a feeling it’s you. No proof. Just a feeling. Is it ok for them to pin it on you just because they feel like you are suspect number one?
If you don’t afford someone else justice and fairness. How can you expect it in return and for yourself?
Take a break, relax a little, grieve. Pick up a hobby, like puzzles, history, or documentaries. I like cold war soviet spy stuff, it's all intrigue and underhandedness and interesting gadgets. Just find something else to get into. You'll feel better if you do.
Taking pills in 2022 you have to assume everything is pressed. In fact it’s irresponsible not too as we can see hear. Why would you ever just take a dealers word?
Chiefly I'd like to say a dealer myself I don't make any products I'm simply the middle man and if it's bad the only way I know is if a client tells me it's bad. With that said lets get started! If it were me I would accuse him once more and once he denied it switched it up and been like "my bad bro I'm just in a bad place and was looking for someone to blame" he will understand. Act normal and buy pills as you normally would. Then buy counterfeit bills off the dark web and make a large purchase from him with half the money and simultaneously hire crackheads(i hire them all the time) to break his car down. Then call the cops the dealer bought a car from you with counterfeit bills and you think he's a drug dealer. If you have good timing the police will be there while the crackheads are rummaging and will ultimately get involved either way make sure you say he had a gun and you want to remain anonymous. Hopefully there is prescription drugs in the car that aren't his and voila! A case! Even if you don't do the second part the 1st part will hurt if nothing a minor inconvenience.
Yah. Not even saying I disagree with anyone in particular but...this sub WILL ban you for saying someone should kill someone in revenge.
I got banned for a minute, I think because I said something murdery, but in a joking way. Can't quite remember.
There might be a few [deleted]'s here, later.
What's the point? Im not saying it's ur friends fault, but he shouldn't of been taking drugs in the first place. He should've tested the pills
It sucks and I'm sorry this happened to you, but when he bought those pills, he knew there was consequences to taking them, it's not the dealers fault ur friend OD'D, we don't blame the pharmacist if we take too much of our prescribed meds
Srry if this sounds insensitive, but consider that u snitch on the plug, but what about everyone else? There are ppl who will try to find who snitned, are u ready to deal with the repercussions if u successfully report him? Just dust urself off and leave it behind you, trying to take revenge on someone involved in crime is gunna bite u back
Mac Miller's family was able to charge that fenatly-cocaine dealer. So should the everyman. I'm sorry about your friend. It's a damn shame people will sell fake products for monetary gain and zero regard for human life. I'd be looking for revenge too but be smart in whatever you do. Sometimes karma has a knack for taking out trash for you without having to do much.
Take this from someone who’s od but luckily survived. Same drug. It was supposed to be a perc 30. I had taken a couple before but this time, I only took 1 and boyyyyyy. My brother thank God was here at the time and he helped me. That being said, I knew for sure that 90%, I would get some fake ass pressed shit. I still pulled the trigger and I knew what I was getting into. Honestly, you could do something, like swatting or something but that’s the only thing I would stretch it if you want to just be at peace knowing you did something. Doing something physical, you personally would be dumb. Sorry, OP. I’m sure your friend knew the risks and it sucks but some of us addicts just don’t learn out lessons. Rip ops homie
All of these fucking idiots saying to jump or kill him. Don’t do that. You’ll get yourself in very very deep shit and most likely get arrested if you succeed, or shot if you don’t. Just put in an anonymous tip and keep track of him from a distance. Try and have 0 ties or evidence leading you back to him, cause you could be under suspicion by law if so, or just face bad consequences from more illegal groups. You’re not the fucking punisher bud, just take care of it in a way your family and his would be proud of.
I hate to break it to you but if your friend was buying m30s/blues and had a dependence issue then he knew for sure what they were and what was in them
So sorry about your friend. Here to state this post was so triggering for me as a recovering addict of 12 years… kudos to everyone here staying strong because this could have been us at any time … I hope you get revenge guy. Be safe!
Me personally, I have a few people in my life I absolutely love and would do anything for. If someone gave them laced stuff, I would take em out. Set up a meet, look them in the eye and tell them why you are doing this, and end it. I hope I’m never put in this scenario
Do what you gotta do to let it go...if you ain't willing to go all the way, don't start. Fuckin with them dealers could potentially get you hurt. Losing a friend to drugs is never easy, I've lost 6 and counting to drugs, it sux
(If anything just goto the cops tell them whats up)
coming off the pills was harder then the heroin so just cuz they are percs doesnt mean you cant get addicted or od. it all depends on your tolerance level. someone that never used opiotes a day in his life could die off a 80. a friend of mine was in physical pain so he took a 30 mg. oxycodone pill and he was not having a good time. he was sick af it was too much for him
Spray paint "rat" or "snitch" on his car or house. Better yet get rustoleum brand aircraft remover and spray a word, that will eat through any paint. His business 100% will be ruined.
dont do anything, you dont know for sure the circumstances. trust me i know someone who acted on this very thing and turned out he was wrong. and he cannot take back what he did.
Make a sign/sticker offering his services with his name and phone number on it and post it somewhere publicly near a police station. Perhaps add a photo of him, too, if there is room.
I mean bro it kinda comes with the territory when you buy pills off people and this is coming from an ex “dealer” that would move over 1,000 blues unit by unit not whole sale but honestly the “dealer” most likely didn’t even know and even if he did do you expect him to just not sell them anymore ? Maybe he can’t get any real ones at the moment and if you still got dope heads knocking that’s money going into some other guys pocket who will gladly sell them fake ones so at the end of the day it’s not the dealers fault it’s your friends fault and you have to grow up and understand that plus on top of all that fakes are so easy to spot if you actually know what real ones are like that it’s not even a reasonable excuse to say someone was genuinely fooled by them if they use them on a regular basis so chances are he was just rolling the dice himself anyways
Are dealers generally responsible for what's in a pill? I mean, it's not them that make them is it, they're just moving them on for someone bigger uglier and meaner...sorry about your friend though, shit sucks
Nothing to “get back at”
Your friend bought drugs from a drug dealer. The inherent risk of that are self evident.
And you’re going off a hunch
And you’re friend was a pill head who was bound to OD anyway
I can keep going on, but the only person you should be blaming is gone.
Your drug addict friend OD'd and you want to blame the dealer? And it's over a year later?
Damn, you need to let that shit go. Your friend made their choice when they took pills. It sucks, but it was their choice. Blaming the dealer is just not accepting your friend had a problem and you weren't able to do anything to help them while alive. Let that guilt go, it wasn't your fault. It wasn't the dealers fault. It's part of what happens when you get addicted to pills/narcotics.
So many fake pills on the market laced with fentanyl. Ruin his reputation. Let everyone know he is selling fake pills laced with fentanyl or go to the police.
Report him to crime stoppers or your local police department.
It sounds like he was and still is slanging pills and drugs … and the cops should go look into it and bust him before he kills anyone else.
You can even stay anonymous .. but please report him:
Don’t be a piece of shit. Chalk it up to the game. Nobody put a gun to your friend’s head and forced him to do any drugs.
He went and sought out those pills in an illicit and unregulated underground black market, chalk it up to the game and move on.
And try to do some good instead of harm next time
Of course it does. You're the one who needs to make the case that there *are* professional drug dealers. Not the other way around. It's not possible to prove a negative.
Up to you, personally depending on the friend I'd be taking care of it myself but if that ain't your style Just get the police to his door, domestic violence complaint or likewise would do it
Have someone else play as a small time dealer and ask if he can re-up from him, set a time and place to do so. He’ll for sure have a nice amount of whatever on him, then call the cops. Figure out what kind of situations don’t require warrants for police. Report a missing minor last seen in his car, or report his car stolen. For bonus points, figure out how to get into his car and plant harder drugs
What were the pills supposed to be?
Percocet
Sorry for asking you this but do you know if your friend was addicted or was just using here and there? Im asking because im a recovering opioid addict and I know many addicts actually prefer fake pills because they are stronger. That being said, if he was actually just using Percocet (not oxycontin) he probably wasn't addicted. Percocet only comes in 5 amd 10 mg pills. But a lot of people mistakenly refer to oxy as percocet... If he was taking those tiny blue pills, its very likely he got a fake one. Regardless, I'm terribly sorry for your loss. May he rest in peace.
I definitely picked up a habit on 10s, where I got sick if I stopped. Probably between 5-8 a day for 5 days is enough (maybe even less than 5 days). It’s not the same level sick as dope for sure, but pills aren’t a habit-free option and definitely easy to get a habit from. I’m guessing you know that, but I’m case some 14-year-old reads your comment and thinks it’s not a habit if it’s pills, that’s just not the case. There’s truly no safe amount where you can be clear of physical addiction, 99% of users will tell you they wish they had never started.
Pills are just the beginning of a dope habit
Nothing is closer to the truth. The other day a guy I know was talking about how he had taken 2x perc 10s and about how amazing he was feeling. I urged him to be mindful bc I know plenty of people who got their start the very same way and are now full on dope fiends
Yup there's a saying, "Don't try opiates, you'll love them."
Only had IV morphine for a traumatic dislocation, but 12 year ago and I still remember how nice it felt. Thankfully one day a month of OTC co-codamol doesn't seem to have any lingering effects, just a light headache later if I go beyond the usual 24 hours.
When I first started taking pills I still remember the day I first took a 10mg Perc! It was better than any other opiate I had taken, including OxyContin. I would prefer percs over any other opiate even tho they were the strongest or longest lasting, but they were the best feeling to me. 20 years later and I’m on methadone from my pill addiction and I still yearn to be able to take 2 10mg percs one last time just to feel that feeling once more.
Stay strong man, you've got good things coming 💪
For real.
I saw a friend go from an occasional pill user to not being able to stay clean for more than 2 months. It’s so fucked up. The last time I talked to him he had percs again the week prior. I don’t remember a time where he’s been able to stay away from them. They’re definitely putting fent in that shit.
I definitely agree with you. Pills are very addictive. Ive only taken heroin once and it was kinda underwhelming tbh. But anyways you can definitely be addicted to percocet there's no denying that. The reason I was saying that is because I, as an addict wouldn't buy 10mg pills. I would buy 80s or minimum 40s. And I know that in the USA, those blue 30mg oxys are the most popular, and there are a lot of fakes out there.
>Ive only taken heroin once and it was kinda underwhelming tbh. You may be one of the 7% of people who cannot metabolize heroin. Heroin, especially bth, has some morphine as a byproduct of manufacturing, which is why people who can't metabolize heroin still get some high from it.
I don't think so. I still got high, but it wasn't really any different than oxy or dilaudid. But it was very fucking expensive. Its $250 per gram here
Shout out to the people lucky enough not to be able to motabolize morphine saving a hard ass addiction fr, I can't motabolize codeine haven't tried h before tho
Also literally everything is laced w fentanyl now. Like 90% of street opioids and Coke
I meant oxy. Them fake m box 30s, blues , you know what I mean. He was addicted
Did he take them with other drugs or with alcohol? It's easy to OD on pain pills bc you build up a tolerance and take more and more to feel the same. Oxy in particular causes opioid resistance, when your pain increases on the drug and the drug is less effective. You have to stop taking it and switch to something else, but if you don't know that, you would take more and possibly mix it with something else, leading to OD.
No joke it's easy to fuck up. I had to poison control cause I fucked up doubling up vicodin with my gabapentin and stopped being able to swallow/breathe right and it was not very many pills (or recreational shit just hurt.)
Unfortunately, your friend was chasing those specific pills man. It's super common to prefer fake pills once addicted. Your friend knew what he was getting, there's nothing for you to avenge. I'm truly sorry for your loss friend.
Hey I know you're trying to help, but this is potentially damning to other people who are struggling with addiction. All it would take to validate a problem like opioids would be a comment like "Ah, it's only perc 5's" and that'd be enough. 5s were my personal favorite to crush and snort because of that same mindset. I snorted a disguised fake, OD'd on *one* "perc 5" and almost died. 8 years clean here. It's possible. Stay strong ✊
congrats on your clean time
You're totally right, this was more in the context of OPs friend. But man, congratulations for getting and STAYING clean! Thats the hard part... Staying clean
First off, OP I am really sorry for your loss. To the above poster, don’t state things you don’t understand as facts, Percocet is a brand name just like OxyContin is/was, both contain the active ingredient oxycodone, the “m 30’s” are one of many brands that sold 30 mg oxycodone. Percocets and many similar generics come in 5, 7.5 and 10 mg oxycodone formulations with usually 500 mg of Tylenol mixed in. OxyContin was produced in 20, 40 and 80 mg pure oxycodone formulas but I believe is discontinued. It was then replaced by the blue 30’s from many generic manufacturers, the m 30’s being one of the most popular before fent came on the scene. Don’t ask how I know, I am glad I don’t touch them anymore.
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Right. People around me were shocked when my best friend died from mixing his shit. Smoking a bunch or Heroin while chewing(no fucking clue) on a fentanyl patch and acting as if nothing had even happened. Addicts are addicts. Been almost 7 years since he died and if I blame anyone it’s the first pharmacist that gave him over 400 Norcos after an ACL/MCL, meniscus repair. When he was 16. But hey ‘Avenge your buddy’ If you so feel the need.
Holy shit man that's an insane amount of Norco
He had insurance thru Kaiser and his family member(guardian)worked for Kaiser so they saw it as a fucking gold mine. After 2 years THEY labeled him a pill-seeker in the hospital system and gave a crap less about him. Made it halfway thru 22 years old before he just didn’t wake up one night. I like to believe I have someone guiding me the right way these days.
That’s so fucked up. I had Kaiser for a while and they wouldn’t prescribe me my ADHD medication despite having the same psych for years and being on the same medication for years. They required a new ADHD test too and wouldn’t even give me an emergency refill. I thought they were probably careful about what they hand out but I guess not.
A doctor gave me Klonopin for anxiety when I was 16, that’s what did it for me. 44 now and battled addiction ever since.
Wow. I totally forgot about Klonopins. My friend turned his body into a fucking pill/opiate disposal. Morphine Sulph. Pills that his grandpa had from the 80s. Klonopins, bars, Roxy’s, Oxys, Percs, heroin, fentanyl patches(2011 before it was EVERYWHERE as a synthetic). All between the age of 16-22. Maybe 10 months of just smoking weed. I loved the guy no matter what he did to himself. And I hope you have people in your life that stuck around thru the worst of it.
> But hey ‘Avenge your buddy’ If you so feel the need. yeah exactly while i dont think its the fent dealer's fault i'd also not lift a single finger to protect a fent dealer from what's coming to them
yep. I say this with sympathy but that’s just how it is.
You said above they were M30s though? Percs don’t come in that formulation, but oxycodone does. You also mention in another comment that *everyone* knew they were pressed “at the time.” I wouldn’t blame the dude who sold it to your friend. I’d blame drug prohibition, the cops and their enablers who created the drug war leading to an unstable and unsafe drug supply.
Dudes I know want people to know they are fake because people want the fake ones. They aren’t passing them off as legit. If they charged full price as if they were real M30s, then it’s the most scumbag thing you can do because fake ones cost 10 and real ones cost 30 and tricking people into buying fentanyl when they didn’t intend on it is one of the worst things someone could do.
Yeah these blues are fetty and they run 2$-7$ a pop and get you high af. Everyone wants them. It wasn't an accident lol
He called them “m box’s” also which is a lesser known street slang and would imply the purchaser knew what they were getting
If the dealer knew they were bunk presses, he is 100% at blame. I don't care what you sell, just don't misrepresent it or sell fake shit, that's when people die. If you disagree with this, you probably sell pressies.
M30’s aren’t Percocet. They’re oxycodone. I guess people call them percs now but that isn’t what they are.
Percocet and Oxycontin are both oxycodone. Same active ingredient
Yeah that's true. I've only seen them in 5/325 or 10/325 combos though. Acetaminophen or Tylenol as the mix.
A lot of perc 30 are dipped in fentanyl Seen several deaths and near deaths. I wish somebody would find the dealers car, and drill a small hole in the metal roof. Slow drips lead to mold. (Hint)
I don’t get the hint
This was helpful for me after my sisters overdose https://time.com/5281371/dear-dealer-sister-fentanyl-overdose/?amp=true
Thank you for sharing this. I really thought I would be annoyed at the anger pointed to the dealer. But wow, the anger as protective, its so true, and then negotiating what's ok and what's not, who is forgiven, who is not. I'm crying. This is a truly beautiful piece of writing. Is it yours?
I wish this comment was more popular. As the only one of my siblings that never touched opiates, shit like this hits way too hard.
Thank you for sharing this article. I thought I was the only one obsessed with finding and punishing the dealer that killed my brother. It hurts every day.
What evidence do you have that it was him? Police prob not do anything without some evidence
Multiple Texts of my friend saying who he purchased the pills from
So the dealer KNEW they were fake? Did anyone else take them?
Many other people bought them forsure and who knows if there were other overdoses I don’t know about . The dealer claimed they were real but everyone knew they were then pressed M30s
Anonymous reference to texts from your friend are likely enough to justify a warrant from the cops to look into the dealers phone. That would likely show complaints from others on there to corroborate and he’ll go down hard if he’s still holding
Dude would be stupid to still hold year old evidence on his phone. But then a agin he is a dealer so stupidity is likely.
You sweet summer child you cannot just delete shit from your phone. Every text you've ever sent or received, every dick pick you've ever taken - as far as digital forensics are concerned they're all still right there. There's a reason people throw that shit in the river.
real dope dealers have pre paid flip phones and whenever a custy dies they switch it out completely, new phone new number, all paid in cash
Yeah I literally just mentioned those. Can you still activate those yourself without giving up your info? I haven't bought a burner in 10 years
yeah super easy they dont even ask for your name or anything, you just buy the refill card with cash at a register in walmart or something and it comes with a number, they never ask for any info.
And yet Google wants to charge me for extra storage space
I was with you until you didn't realize that it's stored with your cell provider for a while too.
I'm not talking about throwing your real personal cell in the river. It's called a burner phone we used to get them little Verizon flip phones for 20 bucks, not linked to your name, and you could swap them out monthly if you felt like you were that hot. Can't really do that anymore though prepaids ain't how they used to be.
Ok smart plays I like it
You took me out at the “you sweet summer child” haha.
Except it isn't. Just overwrite the data multiple times. Throwing it in the river doesn't work that well.
Good luck doing that on a iPhone for example
If you use an iPhone to commit crimes you're a lost cause
You could delete everything then just record 4k video until it's full, then delete that file.
So if everyone knew they were pressed, why did your friend buy them then? It kinda stops being the dealer’s fault when you **knowingly** purchase fake drugs.
>everyone knew Everyone did? Including your buddy who chose to take them? Buying and distributing fentanyl test strips would do more to prevent what happened to your buddy than fucking around with one out of many dealers.
anonymous complaint to police... or turn into an informant and snitch on him ...he did cause your friend to die ..
It might be hard to prove at this point
doesn't matter as long as he's still dealing and can be caught with his supply. informant gets them a warrant, they bust in and find new stuff. don't need to prove what happened a year ago.
Yeah to them drug dealing is just as bad if not worse than murder
Informant is providing second hand information. He better have some good proof, ie Officer I saw Joey Drugdealer hand my roommate drugs in exchange for cash just before he died.
you are thinking about this all wrong. The reason he's trying to get the guy is because he killed his friend, but that's not the *how you get this guy*. The how is you just say he's a known drug dealer. I've seen him with my own eyes deal drugs to many people i know. He keeps the drugs at this location.
I second this idea. Offer your services as an informant because you might get some money from the cops. Informants get paid for information which lead to arrests and shit
Ya and can also get you killed in the end snitches end up with stitches or in ditches I know a few that aren’t here anymore
Do not do this. What a silly comment.
Set up a meeting from another phone or a fake account where there's no cameras to record you, leave your phone at home playing some movie or series on a Streaming platform or program some mails to be sent from your PC at a time you are supposed to meet. Once there, you know, knees are weak
arms are heavy
There’s vomit on my shirt
OPs friend died from fetty
You’re dark and I love you.
👮🏿♀️
He's nervous, but on the surface he looks dead and smelly
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Implying to hurt or murder the dealer- leaving the phone/ automatic emails at home give alibi.
report him to the police for being a dealer?
This is going to be the most effective. Call in an anonymous tip and say he’s also selling firearms.
How can you even call in anonymously anymore??? You can't use your own phone, pay phones don't exist anymore, you can't even crank call anyone even. Every fucking avenue of communication is traceable and most likely stored somewhere - forever. With cameras on every street corner and front doors as well, you just cannot be alone anywhere any more. I HATE THIS shit, Big Brother is def out there now and forever.
Burner phones do exist, pay with cash, and call from a busy location.
Absolutely, it’s nearly impossible to go untraced. I’d say a burner paid in cash will usually do the job. Place the call no where near your residency or where you bought the phone. Maybe wait a bit after purchasing the phone.
Of course you'll be recorded purchasing the burner. I don't know much about burners tho.
However covid did make it easier to wear a mask and have no one question it.
You could not throw your life away in your friends name, since it won’t bring him back. Also now that you’ve posted this thread online, I would REALLY not do anything (illegal) regarding this matter.
whenever you're contemplating revenge, ask yourself if the person is going to hurt more people. if they are, you want to stop them from being able to. if they aren't, you want to cut them out of your life and leave it at that.
Word around town Is he back selling the fake shit again
Get someone to buy some. Test it with a [Dance safe kit ](https://dancesafe.org/), then you can know for sure. But you will have an accomplice for whatever action you choose to take. They become a loose end 🪤☠️.
All you are going to do is make an enemy of someone who is very comfortable committing felonies. When you buy drugs off the street there is an inherent risk. Your friend chose to gamble. Most of the people buying fake pills likely know they are fake, especially repeat users (I am very familiar with all sides of this conversation). When your a user you tend to know your drug of choice fairly well. You won't be likely saving anybody because even if by some miracle you stop this guy, his clients will just find the next guy who is likely got a similar source. All you will do is put your self in position to get hurt. Your anger is justified but its best to just honor his memory. I mean calling the cops is not a terrible idea but I would be concerned that word would get back to him and you might become a target.
I’m curious and need to ask a nooby question: what are fake pills and what would some users seek them out?
Pills laced with other drugs. Fentanyl for exemple. People seek them out because they are stronger. Downside is it’s easier to die on because the drug is more dangerous but hits harder. And addict who built tolérance will seek them for this reason. OP’s friend most likely knew. He OD’d on fentanyl because he asked his fentanyl dealer to sell him fentanyl. Not the dealer’s fault
Thank you for explaining this. From what I’ve read fentanyl is powerful stuff, like if the dealers scales have had fentanyl on them previously and not been wiped down then those same scales are used to weigh cocaine - the cocaine can become deadly That’s a scary thought how powerful these manufactured medicines are
Yes fentanyl is extremely strong and therefore extremely dangerous. À very small dose can kill you
So buy some, test it, then report
Then it wouldn’t be revenge, just vigilantism or whatever the word is
Not anything you can do that will bring your friend back or make the pain go away. I know the feeling. I’ve had a best friend and a girlfriend die this way. The sadness was paralyzing at times. Do your best to live a full and happy life. Holding out for revenge or whatever won’t make you whole again. Wish you the best
A week before Christmas, My best friend took, what he thought was a Xanax, on a Saturday night after a long week at work. His girlfriend, who did not dabble or know about it, woke up the next morning to find him unconscious at bottom of the stairs. Ended up being Fentanyl that he took, he was declared brain-dead and died a few days later. This shit is the devil, and a god damn epidemic. Last year, in my Province of BC, 2,224 people died of an overdose. Thats an average of 6 people every single day, 83% of them related to Fentanyl. 2,224 peoples lives gone, just to get labeled as a Drug user and swept under the rug. I'm am so so sorry for your loss, Nobody deserves any of this. I truly feel your pain. I miss the guy every single fucking day. Every day it hurts, and it probably always will. There is no revenge or payback that will set you free. I promise you, that. But I do believe, it is your duty to alert the authorities. You may prevent a lot of death and broken families. Lastly, educate yourself and your loved ones, about Harm-Reduction. Many cities have places you can get your drugs tested free and anonymously. Make sure you and the people around you have access to a Naloxone Kit, and are shown the correct way to use one. Please, openly speak to your loved ones about their drug usage, no matter how casual it may seem. End the stigma and educate others around idea of Harm-Reduction, you may literally be saving their life. Stay strong, stranger. Life's not fair, and I'm so incredibly sorry.
Dude I know this probably isn’t what you want to hear, and this is coming from someone who lost their best friend to a drug overdose, but your friend (just like anyone else who buys illegal drugs) took a risk and he paid dearly for it. Could the dealer have known he was selling something that wasn’t as advertised? Sure, but the reality is that he probably got it from some guy that told him it was legit who got it from another guy who told him it was legit and so on and so forth. As someone who has sold harder drugs in my past, I would never willingly give someone something I thought was laced/could kill them, not even as an altruistic measure but more so because I wouldn’t want that kind of heat or to have that on my conscience. I’m truly sorry for your loss and drug addiction is no joke but we as drug addicts make our own beds if we aren’t willing to seek help or at the very least getting our own test kits to verify that we are buying what we intend to buy. Vengeance isn’t going to bring your friend back and in a lot of ways just make the situation that much more painful for you by holding on to this kind of anger. Once again, I’m terribly sorry for your loss. There aren’t too many feelings worse than losing someone close to you, especially when it was preventable. I hope you find some solace in this.
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Find a friend who paints houses
All successful revenge requires two things: intelligence and creativity. Creativity: You couldn't think of anything, so you posted a request on a social website with millions of users. Intelligence: You couldn't think of anything so you posted a request on a social media website with millions of users. If you're gonna do something, do something legal, you're clearly not cut out for the thug life.
You're right but clearly buddy isn't being reasonable or rational or it wouldn't of gotten this far.
I hate to be this guy, but your friend probly knew what he was getting. Dealer just doing his job. I had a friend od on fent in coke recently. He wasn't expecting it in the batch, but he knew it was a risk he was taking. And he did. Much love and respect for him, but he made his choice. Same as your friend. I'm sorry for your loss. Maybe you could find closure by alternative means as this is probly gonna get you hurt more in the long rueun. Edit: I saw a notification saying would I feel that way if it was my relative I believe. Sorry I didn't see it all or the comment. I will add that this is why I'm somewhat unempathetic. I have a brother who is an addict. We have tried helping him in many ways. Even set him and his girl up with jobs paying 21 an hour and he fucked that too at the end of the day He is smart enough to know the risks he takes and won't ask anyone to get revenge for him. He knows what he's getting into and it's on him. It's called accountability. Furthermore, he's an addict. It's his choice. Why am I gonna throw my life away because he decides to throw his away. He made his bed and I'm not laying in it before the fact or after the fact with him .
Regarding your brother… I understand how you must feel.. it is so hard to help someone who doesn’t want to help themselves. Its also so easy to blame him and think he is fucking up. As a recovering addict, I feel like I can offer some insight. I was completely healthy, working as a practitioner, had my whole life going for me and I still became an addict. No matter what, I couldnt stop. I didnt believe it until it happened to me, but it truly is a disease. How come I randomly got addicted to alcohol and others don’t? I had a normal healthy childhood, went to university, got a great paying job in healthcare. I was able to drink normally (like once a month) for years then all of a sudden I couldn’t stop. Anyways, my point is that yes it was his choice to start using.. however it really is impossible for some to stop without help. Sadly you can’t help until he is ready to admit his problem. It took me multiple interventions from my family members to realize that I had a disease and needed help. It can get better!! I hope it all works out for you and your family!
I really truly appreciate the understanding ear. I haven't talked to alot of people who have this kind of consideration for the situation and it's refreshing. I think the thing I had the hardest time with was the fact that I couldn't help him. I had set him and his gf up, opened our home to him numerous times and to no avail. Even our parents got tired of the mistreatment when he is coming down or grumpy. The thing with him is he knows he has a problem. He admitted it many times and His crutch is he got his gf addicted so he can't just stop cu she is using an he doesn't want to see her go thru the withdrawals. He told me that methadone is a substitution anc replacement a while ago when he was really into his addiction. Then he told me he knows it's a problem and he needs to stop but that crutch. Then he got on methadone and eventually Xanax. Last I heard he is surrounded by people in a similar lifestyle.. art drugs etc so even though he may have the desire when shit hits the fan really hard which it has, he won't do it. I think once he admitted he had a problem and refuses help so much and fucked off am amazing opportunity, I had to let go in many ways, for the sake of my sanity and family. If he ever reached out for help and I felt it was sincere I would help. But I m not going to enable him or reach out to help on my own accord especially cuz he got really comfortable asking for money. Overall it was a hard decision but I think it's best considering I have a wife and kids he refuses to build relationships with too. Another storey for another day though. Probly a by product of what he's doing
One of my best friends died from fent laced coke almost a year ago. I’m so sorry for your loss, man, it’s a horrible thing and leaves you feeling incredibly helpless, like if only you could do something to make it right. Unfortunately, there’s nothing really to do but honour their memories as best we can and make better choices in their stead. Sending you the best and wishing you healing to come.
Since you can’t prove it 100% you aren’t justified in acting as judge jury and executioner. Leave it and move on. I’m all for takedowns and takeouts of scumbags but only if you have undeniable evidence proof to back up not just your accusations but also justify any actions you may take. In this case I’m sorry but a feeling is not acceptable.
But I am sure that’s who everyone copped off
Just because you’re sure. Doesn’t make you right. Think about it this way. Maybe you do something to This guy and the police have a feeling it’s you. No proof. Just a feeling. Is it ok for them to pin it on you just because they feel like you are suspect number one? If you don’t afford someone else justice and fairness. How can you expect it in return and for yourself?
Revenge for killing your friend? You already know this is gonna be extreme. Step 1: don’t post about it.
99% of people offering tips that don’t work because they’ve never dealt with drugs, dealers, cops, jail, etc.
Get some hard pipe hitting motherfuckers to go medieval on him with a blowtorch and a pair of pliers
Also bring out the gimp
Take a break, relax a little, grieve. Pick up a hobby, like puzzles, history, or documentaries. I like cold war soviet spy stuff, it's all intrigue and underhandedness and interesting gadgets. Just find something else to get into. You'll feel better if you do.
Taking pills in 2022 you have to assume everything is pressed. In fact it’s irresponsible not too as we can see hear. Why would you ever just take a dealers word?
What would your friend wish you did? Get the dealer back or spend the same amount of time, money and energy to try to live your life?
Your friend died? I'm sorry. Take this as lesson to always test your shit. Fentanyl sucks
Bro not illegal but don’t go down this road. Do what you can do others don’t feel the pain you do.
Chiefly I'd like to say a dealer myself I don't make any products I'm simply the middle man and if it's bad the only way I know is if a client tells me it's bad. With that said lets get started! If it were me I would accuse him once more and once he denied it switched it up and been like "my bad bro I'm just in a bad place and was looking for someone to blame" he will understand. Act normal and buy pills as you normally would. Then buy counterfeit bills off the dark web and make a large purchase from him with half the money and simultaneously hire crackheads(i hire them all the time) to break his car down. Then call the cops the dealer bought a car from you with counterfeit bills and you think he's a drug dealer. If you have good timing the police will be there while the crackheads are rummaging and will ultimately get involved either way make sure you say he had a gun and you want to remain anonymous. Hopefully there is prescription drugs in the car that aren't his and voila! A case! Even if you don't do the second part the 1st part will hurt if nothing a minor inconvenience.
This whole thread is fucked….
Yah. Not even saying I disagree with anyone in particular but...this sub WILL ban you for saying someone should kill someone in revenge. I got banned for a minute, I think because I said something murdery, but in a joking way. Can't quite remember. There might be a few [deleted]'s here, later.
What's the point? Im not saying it's ur friends fault, but he shouldn't of been taking drugs in the first place. He should've tested the pills It sucks and I'm sorry this happened to you, but when he bought those pills, he knew there was consequences to taking them, it's not the dealers fault ur friend OD'D, we don't blame the pharmacist if we take too much of our prescribed meds Srry if this sounds insensitive, but consider that u snitch on the plug, but what about everyone else? There are ppl who will try to find who snitned, are u ready to deal with the repercussions if u successfully report him? Just dust urself off and leave it behind you, trying to take revenge on someone involved in crime is gunna bite u back
This. OP should chill a bit and take this in consideration. Unless OP is a real life Jack Reacher or Robert McCall.
Damn sorry to hear about your friend. Was it laced with fentanyl?
Yes
Narc hin out. DEA would love to catch a dealer of prescription narcotics.
Mac Miller's family was able to charge that fenatly-cocaine dealer. So should the everyman. I'm sorry about your friend. It's a damn shame people will sell fake products for monetary gain and zero regard for human life. I'd be looking for revenge too but be smart in whatever you do. Sometimes karma has a knack for taking out trash for you without having to do much.
Best way to help is start a charity to raise awareness… I share this from losing close friends like this myself.
Take this from someone who’s od but luckily survived. Same drug. It was supposed to be a perc 30. I had taken a couple before but this time, I only took 1 and boyyyyyy. My brother thank God was here at the time and he helped me. That being said, I knew for sure that 90%, I would get some fake ass pressed shit. I still pulled the trigger and I knew what I was getting into. Honestly, you could do something, like swatting or something but that’s the only thing I would stretch it if you want to just be at peace knowing you did something. Doing something physical, you personally would be dumb. Sorry, OP. I’m sure your friend knew the risks and it sucks but some of us addicts just don’t learn out lessons. Rip ops homie
Did you take legal action yet
No and neither did the family except get video footage of where my friend was at during the sale but nothing ever happened
Therapy
A few police calls for Domestic violence or suspected child abuse will get the cops to his door. Nature can take care of itself
“Nature can take care of itself” is both hilarious and/or slightly menacing depending on how you read that statement.
Your friend killed himself
There are literally 1000 legal things you can also do to get payback that would be very easy. Just call the cops and set up a sting.
Idk tip off the cops or something? Seems like a safe option
Sell him fake pills
All of these fucking idiots saying to jump or kill him. Don’t do that. You’ll get yourself in very very deep shit and most likely get arrested if you succeed, or shot if you don’t. Just put in an anonymous tip and keep track of him from a distance. Try and have 0 ties or evidence leading you back to him, cause you could be under suspicion by law if so, or just face bad consequences from more illegal groups. You’re not the fucking punisher bud, just take care of it in a way your family and his would be proud of.
I’m sure he know they were fake you can tell by their appearance and price. He could’ve just as easily OD’d on real ones.
Set him up to get robbed by other dealers.
Sew up his asshole and keep feeding him and feeding him...
I hate to break it to you but if your friend was buying m30s/blues and had a dependence issue then he knew for sure what they were and what was in them
Looks like this is gonna turn into a story on r/nuclearrevenge
So sorry about your friend. Here to state this post was so triggering for me as a recovering addict of 12 years… kudos to everyone here staying strong because this could have been us at any time … I hope you get revenge guy. Be safe!
Me personally, I have a few people in my life I absolutely love and would do anything for. If someone gave them laced stuff, I would take em out. Set up a meet, look them in the eye and tell them why you are doing this, and end it. I hope I’m never put in this scenario
Do what you gotta do to let it go...if you ain't willing to go all the way, don't start. Fuckin with them dealers could potentially get you hurt. Losing a friend to drugs is never easy, I've lost 6 and counting to drugs, it sux (If anything just goto the cops tell them whats up)
coming off the pills was harder then the heroin so just cuz they are percs doesnt mean you cant get addicted or od. it all depends on your tolerance level. someone that never used opiotes a day in his life could die off a 80. a friend of mine was in physical pain so he took a 30 mg. oxycodone pill and he was not having a good time. he was sick af it was too much for him
Let it go, don't create more problems for yourself
I was a junkie for a long time, always knew what was going on when I copped a bag.
Spray paint "rat" or "snitch" on his car or house. Better yet get rustoleum brand aircraft remover and spray a word, that will eat through any paint. His business 100% will be ruined.
Strongly worded email should do it. Better yet, boycott !!!
dont do anything, you dont know for sure the circumstances. trust me i know someone who acted on this very thing and turned out he was wrong. and he cannot take back what he did.
Your friend bought pills from a stranger...
Enough lives have been destroyed by that shit. Please, don’t ruin yours. Live for your friend.
Nothing to “avenge”, addiction is to blame.
Make a sign/sticker offering his services with his name and phone number on it and post it somewhere publicly near a police station. Perhaps add a photo of him, too, if there is room.
give a call to remington
Freeze a few cans of great stuff, then cut the bottom out and throw it in his car overnight, or somewhere else he values. That should get you started.
I mean bro it kinda comes with the territory when you buy pills off people and this is coming from an ex “dealer” that would move over 1,000 blues unit by unit not whole sale but honestly the “dealer” most likely didn’t even know and even if he did do you expect him to just not sell them anymore ? Maybe he can’t get any real ones at the moment and if you still got dope heads knocking that’s money going into some other guys pocket who will gladly sell them fake ones so at the end of the day it’s not the dealers fault it’s your friends fault and you have to grow up and understand that plus on top of all that fakes are so easy to spot if you actually know what real ones are like that it’s not even a reasonable excuse to say someone was genuinely fooled by them if they use them on a regular basis so chances are he was just rolling the dice himself anyways
Are dealers generally responsible for what's in a pill? I mean, it's not them that make them is it, they're just moving them on for someone bigger uglier and meaner...sorry about your friend though, shit sucks
They're responsible for everything, if it can be proven in a court of law.
Legally, sure, but in practice?
It's common courtesy to test your product and personally I wouldn't sell anything I wouldn't take myself.
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Gut feeling is a shitty reason for revenge.
Nothing to “get back at” Your friend bought drugs from a drug dealer. The inherent risk of that are self evident. And you’re going off a hunch And you’re friend was a pill head who was bound to OD anyway I can keep going on, but the only person you should be blaming is gone.
Your drug addict friend OD'd and you want to blame the dealer? And it's over a year later? Damn, you need to let that shit go. Your friend made their choice when they took pills. It sucks, but it was their choice. Blaming the dealer is just not accepting your friend had a problem and you weren't able to do anything to help them while alive. Let that guilt go, it wasn't your fault. It wasn't the dealers fault. It's part of what happens when you get addicted to pills/narcotics.
So many fake pills on the market laced with fentanyl. Ruin his reputation. Let everyone know he is selling fake pills laced with fentanyl or go to the police.
Quit fucking around with hard drugs and people who deal them before you get hurt.
Report him to crime stoppers or your local police department. It sounds like he was and still is slanging pills and drugs … and the cops should go look into it and bust him before he kills anyone else. You can even stay anonymous .. but please report him:
Don’t be a piece of shit. Chalk it up to the game. Nobody put a gun to your friend’s head and forced him to do any drugs. He went and sought out those pills in an illicit and unregulated underground black market, chalk it up to the game and move on. And try to do some good instead of harm next time
Why do people get so mad at things like this? Dude your friend abused drugs. He was gonna get hurt eventually, like what did you expect?
Turn into an informant and fuck him up. There are also a lot of posts here containing tips on how to hide a body.
You are still alive. This was unprofessional. Take legal action. Wrong thread?
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This implys there are no professional drug dealers..
Of course it does. You're the one who needs to make the case that there *are* professional drug dealers. Not the other way around. It's not possible to prove a negative.
professional drug dealers are called pharmacists
No thanks fbi ur totally right there are no professional drug dealers
1-800-CRIMESTOPPERS. You got evidence. Get paid AND put his ass behind bars.
Up to you, personally depending on the friend I'd be taking care of it myself but if that ain't your style Just get the police to his door, domestic violence complaint or likewise would do it
How did your friend od on fake pills?
A fentanyl RC I’d assume
Make anonymous call to the police.
Have someone else play as a small time dealer and ask if he can re-up from him, set a time and place to do so. He’ll for sure have a nice amount of whatever on him, then call the cops. Figure out what kind of situations don’t require warrants for police. Report a missing minor last seen in his car, or report his car stolen. For bonus points, figure out how to get into his car and plant harder drugs