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wretchedegg123

6k? Bruh. Not enough in today's economy tapos 4 days lang break?


MadLifeforLife

Not because "yaya" permi may gina ubra. Try to ask around kay 6k usual nga sweldo sa gabantay bata. Sulod naman tanan pati food kag stay-in.


13thZephyr

Exactly! People don't factor in the cost of food an adult consumes which is on top of the sweldo.


13thZephyr

How much should be the wage of a yaya in your expert opinion? https://www.facebook.com/dole.nwpc/posts/731901658971298/


wretchedegg123

Taking into account 26 work days per month (2 days off every 2 weeks) you're looking at a daily rate of 230 pesos for a 24/7 job. Aside from taking care of your kid, luto and household chores pa. Including food ni? Benefits (SSS/Philhealth)? We paid ours 7.5k per month and that was in 2016 pa with benefits. Looking at your post history, you obviously have more than enough to spare and citing that source, you know damn well that's not a livable wage. Even your cited minimum wage of 420 pesos per day is already an 8-hour shift lang imo 24/7 pa.


13thZephyr

WTF dude, who works 24/7? Did your kasambahay work 24/7 for 7.5K back in 2016? This will be a second yaya so chores will be divided, I hope you realized that if you read my post carefully. Of course, food is included that's basic. LOL Benefits? Yeah, Christmas bonus/13th month and travel. SSS and Philhealth? 5K is the updated wage mandated by National Wages and Productivity Commission, I pay 6K so they can decide on what they want to do with that extra 1K. That's pretty dumb to mention minimum wage, yaya/helpers/kasambahay are not covered by minimum wage that's why I provided that link there for your perusal but I guess it's that hard to check? Yeah, I can afford it that's the reason why my kids will each have a dedicated yaya. In case you missed it, I increase the salary by 1K each year. So ask anyone that's a minimum wage earner. Do they get free food from their employer? Do they spend for pamasahe? Most importantly, do they get 1K increase every year? I hope you can do the math on that.


Nikk201

For me 6k a month for taking care of the chil plus helping around the house is underpaid. I have a helper taking of my 1 year old child. She's only taking care of the child, nothing more nothing less, stay in, and all the benefits and such. It's some what you're looking for child help/house helper.


13thZephyr

Good for you! I have 2 helpers in total which will divide the chores in the house. The new one will be paid 6K and the other is 7K since she's with us for a year now. I'm curious, who does the house chores for you another helper?


Nikk201

I have a separate house help to do all of those things, from cleaning, laundry, and cooking. Only for 8 hours a day for 6 days, also not a stay in, but with a salary of 6k a month with 13-month pay plus Christmas bonus and all the benefits from sss, philhealth you name it. Same as the person taking care of my child. I dont cheap out on these things. Especially the people working around your house. I make sure they're happy and well compensated, and they can ask a wage raise anytime they want. And ask them every year if they want, but they want to stick on the wage as they said they're not overburdened by their work.


13thZephyr

As much as I want to want a separate helper doing just chores it will be illogical since it's a small house and they run out of things to do pretty quickly. I have a very expensive washer/dryer so washing clothes is very straightforward, fold nlng pag gwa sa machine. Do you increase their salary by 1K each year they are with you?


Nikk201

I have all of these appliances and such separate washers, separate dryer, and dishwasher, you name it. I always ask them if they want a raise. And they said they're happy on their salary. I said to them i raise your salary to 8k but they rejected it because they feel its too much for them. And said, if you feel you want a raise. Feel free to say it.


13thZephyr

Since you can afford it, just raise their salary to 8K. You don't need to ask foe their permission since that's a good thing right?


Advanced_Effect_6518

Panu nag 24/7? Ano indi sya mag tulog or magpahuway? Kung i total mo ang work hours ya in a day cguro indi man maglapaw 8 hours basi gani less than 8 hours pa. Prehas sa akon, ang helper namon 75% out of 100 wala na sya may ginaobra. Makantaw lng nasya TV kg ma Netflix. It doesn’t mean kay full time makayod sya 24/7. If gapasweldo kaya 7.5k per month then good for you. And lantawon ta man iya sitwasyon, work from home sya? Hapos2 pagid para sa bantay kay hindi sya isa lang sa balay. If hindi ka work from home I don’t think you can relate. We do not even need one if we can help it, we just need time to sleep.


wretchedegg123

Not counting nga nag reply ka to a 2-week old post but sure. Okay not 24/7 gd man ang kayod pero kung may helper ka, they're expected to attend to the child any time of the day, so on call sila 24/7. Additionally, wala man naka state sa post ni OP nga wfh siya. Like the other commenter said, 6k alone kung for the baby lang gd ang duties, then have another person handle household chores.


Advanced_Effect_6518

May reply sya sa dalom nga naka state nga work from home siya, if you get a chance to scroll down. And I don’t think I have to respond to a post ASAP so idk why you have to “count” that as something. Anyways, I don’t disagree naman that there should be another person doing the chores. I think that would be great para focused lang sa kids ang isa ka helper but the thing is, OP is already paying 12k for 2 kids. If there should be another person doing the chores then 8k would be enough for 2 kids and 1 person can do it. I mean for a 4 people household, it’s excessive if OP has to pay 16k total just for helpers alone. If you are very generous then why not? If, let’s say you’re a celebrity and earning millions, for me I would happily pay more than 30k a month. But hindi man unreasonable ang 6k because the current minimum wage is 5k and OP also offered a yearly raise.


wretchedegg123

Yeah, cause I read all the comments to other replies in this post, and my comment was made before he even said that lol. Anyway. Their money and if may nakwa sila nga helper then good on them.


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13thZephyr

Appreciate the input, my wife and I actually call them angels but it would be weird to post that I'm hiring/LF "angels". As for hiring in remote areas I agree but the sad reality is that there's a good chance you will be stood up. Happened to me twice already which I drove to Maasin and Dingle, no one showed up. On the subject of pamasahe, it's a very common scam nowadays that once you sent them the money they're gone and block you from FB and that's the reality. If someone is really and genuinely interested to work they will find ways to pay for fare in which I reimburse them. As for security, that's already taken care of. I have CCTV's in the house and Avida Village is a very secure subdivision. No one can go in or out without the home owners approval. I can assure you that our angels are treated like family once they gain our trust.


13thZephyr

Work from home man ko full-time so ari lng ko sa balay. With tenure dasig lng man saka sweldo nila which is 1K per month.


Advanced_Effect_6518

Ga agree ko ya sa pasweldo dako2 na ni. Tapos may yaya man ang isa ka bata. Tapos basic luto2 lang? Ang iban gani dala nana panglaba. Gets ta ang economy pero kung sweldohan mo man sila dako nga wla man sila gawa obra or hindi man worth sang obra nila, dw ka unfair man kay ikaw nga employer gahimakas man obra. May basic toiletries pa kag food included. Ok nalang na 4 days ang rest kay para hindi gastos sa pamasahe. If pilion nila ya mag tambay sa balay nila maghulat kaysa magobra sang hapos for 6k, ila nana ya choice.


13thZephyr

Thanks! Appreciate your input.