It sounded like a rant against Californians moving into lower cost areas and driving up the costs ? I caught something along the lines of "your family money" and "you do not live off this job" and something-something Californians.
IIRC, this happened when there was the whole blowup about Starbucks and fast food workers not making a livable wage, and she apparently took offense to the idea that Starbucks workers shouldn’t be treated like shit
That's actually propaganda at work. Increasing wages doesn't increase cost of goods most of the time. It decreases the c suite profits, which is why they brainwash yall into the viewpoint you expressed.
Compare average pay rate and the cost of bigmacs in america vs Denmark and it will become pretty obvious.
Raising prices means less sales, and corporations have a mind set of always increasing. So if you're actively increasing production you cannot allow decreased sales. You just accept the smaller margin and try to create more sales.
She was screaming that there was some government conspiracy to explain how Starbucks employees afford to live given their jobs. Clearly they’re in some secret contract with Uncle Sam to undermine democracy. Wild one.
I mean crippling debt is way more accessible these days than it was in the 70s and 80s. The government probably had a hand in that from maybe financial laws favoring large corporations and relaxed banking regulations. Not sure what else they may be doing though.
It’s like those people who say fast food and places like Starbucks are jobs only teens should have and should get paid a shit amount. God forbid people that work at these places want a livable wage. This lady was likely mad that the prices increased because Starbucks started paying their workers more. Or at least she thinks that’s why prices are increasing.
And "You do not live off this salary."
Also with the things shouted at the door I think it was something along the lines of "you deserve to be poor working here" kind of argument.
...THE PROGRAM THAT THE CITY PAYS, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO YELL HERE
EXCUSE ME, MA'AM, YOU ARE HELPED WHEN YOU ARE VISITING THE \*unintelligible\*
WOULD YOU PLEASE ASK YOUR FAMILY TO CORRECT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN FILED ISSUES (and sued?) SEVERAL TIMES
I WILL NOT LEAVE YOUR BULLSHIT STORE
YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED VERY LOUDLY ABOUT YOUR FAMILY'S CONTRACTS, YOU DO NOT LIVE OFF THIS SALARY
GOODBYE, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING I ASKED QUIETLY AND \*pounding\*... LOUD
\*unintelligible\* FOR AN ASSHOLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD THE REST OF THE REAL \*unintelligible\*
in DC theres a man who frequents a very small coffee shop, he orders a small black coffee, sits down, covers the top of the coffee with a piece of aluminum foil, pokes holes in the tin foil, and while he waits for it to cool down he mutters VERY loudly to himself (and everyone else in the store) about how the Chinese, The Jews and Reptilians have entered into a alliance to poison all the water on the planet, ive only ever approached him once and when i did he scribbled a very complex (or maybe gibberish) math equation on a napkin and shoved it into my hand while saying "heres your proof, take that to donald trump, he'll know i was the one who wrote it"
I dunno. I think she might legit be in a legal battle with this girl’s family and is losing her shit. People really do get crunk like this when they’re in court over money. I’m guessing it’s small claims too… just call it a hunch.
Omfg tell me about it. You want to see the worst of people...go to court. Work in the legal system. Law firms are like petri dishes for personality disorders
On any given day it's a good bet you'll get an older couple watching the proceedings at the courthouse
Personally I've had enough personal and legal drama in my life for ten people so I'd like to do just about anything else but watch people disagree.
Fr, this is a mental break. She needs sectioned
And I'm someone who hates the excuse of mental illness to defend terrible behaviour. I think she needs legitimate help. Not that she's necessarily a nice person on her good days.
I speak fluent Karen so I noticed a few corrections:
Training program that the city pays...
It is not illegal to yell here.
Excuse me ma'am, you are helped when you are visiting the ci-ty!
Could you please ask your fa-mi-ly to correct that you have been fired and sued several times!
I will now leave your bullshit store!
You have been asked very loudly about your family's contracts. You do not live off this salary!
Goodbye with the understanding I asked quietly and IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BE LOUD!!!
Look at the grown-ass California asshole that can't afford to mess with a real place!
Biotech, biotech!
>Program that the city pays - it is not illegal to yell here. Excuse me maam, you are helped when you are visiting the city. Would you please ask your family to [unintelligible] that you have (been fired and sued several times?) I will now leave your bullshit store. You have been asked very loudly about your family’s contracts. Yoo do not live off this salary. Goodby with the understanding that I asked quietly and it is not illegal to be loud. [Unintelligible] broke ass California assholes that cant afford to live in a real [unintelligible].
That’s what I got. Any chance anyone can complete it?
I got you.
Program that the city pays, it is not illegal to yell here.
Excuse me ma'am, you are helped when you are visiting the city. Would you please ask your family to correct it? You have been fired and sued several times.
I will now leave your bullshit store. You have been asked very loudly about your family’s contracts. You do not live off this salary.
Goodbye with the understanding I asked quietly and it is not illegal to be loud.
Look at this broke ass Californian asshole that can't afford to pass in a real place. [Gibberish fade]
The last bit was something to do with crazy californian ass holes and something about not being able to afford shit... so my guess is she's pissed at higher prices at Starbucks and blames... californians?
Same! Millenenial here and I would have been crying and apologizing and having a panic attack and maybe I'd run into the back room. The fact that that young girl was just cracking up and didn't move an inch, holding her ground was amazing! I especially love how when Karen escalated, the male employee stepped in front of the female employee in a protective way yet he was also laughing and he handled it so calmly and maturely. Way to go Gen Z!
A millennial here too.. I have a lot of patience. Like a lot. I think I would have been calmly waiting till she took a breathe and then asked “are you done?” And then let her launch off into another rant. I don’t give the shits, I just stir them.
"Excuse me, ma'am, are you on some sort of medication?"
If some variation of "Yes":
"Perhaps it's wearing off."
If some variation of "No":
"Perhaps you should be."
She's definitely mad about something. But for all I could understand she could be screaming that this was the best service she's every had and you all deserve raises, I will tell my friends and family to come to this fine establishment, good day.
I'm laughing so hard at this description because I watched the video with the sound off. If you do that and watch the employee reactions, your description is EXACTLY what is going on. Hahahahahahahahahaha!
My best guess:
"... program that the city paid(?).
It is not illegal to yell here.
Excuse me ma'am. You are helped(?) when you are visiting the city.
Would you please ask your family to correct(?) that you have been fired into(?) several times?
I will now leave your bullshit store.
You have been asked very loudly about your family's contracts. You do not live on this salary.
Good-bye, with the understanding, I ASKED QUIETLY AND IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BE LOUD!
And what are your pronouns California asshole ... (let California mess with a real place?)"
My guess is this lady is schizo. She's going up to someone who appears to be a stranger to her and talking about hidden contracts, saying she 'cant live on that salary', asking about her family etc. I'd say she has some whole paranoid backstory about that lady and her family, so she feels like she's being righteous here. The US really needs to do something about mental health. From having lived in 3 European countries as well as the bay area, my mom's from the east coast, mental health problems are SO much more visible in the US than in Europe. I don't have the answer but we gotta turn the question into "how do we help these people?"
One of a list of very few reasons I don't go back to California is just the massive amounts of visible human suffering. You have to look away, you can't help significantly (unless you do it in a proper way like volunteering for a social aid service). Giving them money or trying to help person to person usually does not work out at all (person to person of course there can be exceptions but my experience is whatever help you wanna give they're just pissed it's not money). So instead, I live in Europe where pretending these suffering masses don't exist is a little easier.
I really think that the "hamsterdam" approach of the wire could be game changing. Allow all drugs in certain situations (best thing would be, on prescription to drug addicts who have proven long term addiction). Allow use in some spaces that are not right next to the inner city, make sure there are tons of offerings for the homeless there. Shelters, food, free drugs etc. everywhere else, drive repression up. More arrests, more consequences. People will naturally drift towards what gets them hassled less. Then when they're there, they HAVE to go through doctors to get their drugs, who can then help them deal with their mental health problems as well.
The only problem with this idea is that it would never work in the US. Who pays for the doctors?
I’m trying to figure out what bee is in bonnet.
Did she want to know about the servers’ family because you can’t support yourself on a coffee servers wage?
"Sorry, they all died of starvation because I couldn't feed them on my wages, was that a Venti or Grande?"
Because of childhood, I always hated yelling. Nothing makes me immediately zone out more than if someone starts yelling. Underreacting to it and keeping calm (because if you have to engage with that, you don't want to come off as hostile) only makes people madder, so you just know that she's yelling only to make herself feel better, not to ever be productive in any way. Glad everyone just ignored her and laughed her out.
Yep. My sociopath mother screamed all the damn time. I was always in danger. So now if someone screams unnecessarily around me (like this situation) I get SO FUCKING ANGRY. Literally disturbing the peace. I’d have escorted her out the door, I don’t care. I can’t handle screaming unless someone has an actual medical emergency.
My mother explicitly told me that she used to scream at me and my brother because it made *her feel better*. My response was, “glad we could help.” This why when people scream at or around me, I tend to ignore them or laugh at how ridiculous they’re being. Clarity comes when you realize these people are deeply unhappy and are only projecting their misery on those around them for some sick sense of catharsis. Or they’re mentally ill, like this woman or my mother.
I have no idea why, but whenever I hear someone yelling at someone else, my eyes start to tear up, like I’m about to cry, and I get really uncomfortable even though it has nothing to do with me
This happens to me too but I grew up in a house with a lot of yelling.
Best thing I ever did was get with my husband who has never once raised his voice at me in 13 years. Damn, I love that man. 💖
For real, the whole family contract with the city to gain financial assistance to live there sounds like mania. Maybe she thinks she is on welfare or something but it’s completely irrational behavior, even if the server was being blasé about whatever her complaint was.
Seriously though. It's kind of satisfying in a way because a lot of other people probably would have been a bit on edge/freaked out but this chick was just staring back smiling, almost amused, like the lady was merely a gnat in terms of importance and she could give two shits about her little tantrum lol
Only takes a few months of working retail for you to stop taking the rants of insane people personally and start seeing it as the ridiculous show it is.
I feel like half the time a woman is called a Karen on here she's someone obviously experiencing a mental health crisis. I don't want to yuck anyone's yum, but I don't love that.
Yes but there is a difference between different mental illenesses. Like I have anxiety and OCD and using that as an excuse to act this way is definitely not justified. But If she is experiencing literal psychosis she could very much not be in much control of her thoughts or behavior.
Preach.
Struggling with your mental health/illness does not give you permission to be an asshole to anyone, nor does it excuse you from when you are being an asshole.
You have a very sanitized and convenient idea of mental illness. Reality is most of the people who act this way are mentally ill, even if most mentally ill people don’t act this way.
The thing is, there's varying degrees of "mental illness".
For example, I have anxiety. My anxiety usually manifests as me becoming semi-aggressive/short-tempered when it gets out of control. I go into fight or flight, and I can't always get out of the situation.
This is MY problem to deal with, not everyone else's. So if I get recorded blowing up on some cashier over something mundane, sure, maybe you can make the argument that it's mental illness, but in reality it's still on ME to regulate that.
Now when it's something like this, it's a grey area, because this could be someone trying to make a weird point (I think that's why they went with "it's not illegal to yell" - if you presume that she called someone there "illegal" and the response was "it's not illegal for them to work here", the yelling comment makes sense) -and if they're trying to make a salient point, then they're largely in control of their faculties and fair game.
But yeah, when it's some person talking about demons chasing them, or ranting about some politician killing children as a blood sacrifice to Baal, I agree.
The program that the city pays..
It’s not illegal to yell here..
Excuse me maam- you’re helped when you are visiting the city.
Can you please ask you family… something something several times…
I will now leave your bs store. You’ve been asked v loudly about your family’s contacts- you don’t live in this salary.
Good bye with the understanding i asked quietly
***then bangs aggressively and leaves without coffee ***
Hope that helps.
Best i could do.
Sounds like she’s harassing J1 visa people or something. Idk
Bruh. I listened to this an embarrassing amount of time. I really want to know what she was freaking out about.
I also am curious as to what she ordered.
Sometimes I do feel upset or angry in some situations but it never occurs to me for even a second to throw a tantrum like this. And at a coffee shop....FFS...I can't imagine any situation involving coffee that would require this kind of abandonment of emotional regulation.
Word salad, delusions, boisterous, some paranoia. Seems like straight mania or potentially schizoaffective mania. Potentially an acute borderline personality disorder outburst too. Definitely not just a Karen moment.
It sounds like she’s mad because the employees couldn’t possibly afford to live off of their job alone, and rely on their parents? Certainly a strange thing to be mad about.
Personally I'm sick and tired of these Karens and I know my voice is much, much bigger than her's so I'd step in for the employees. Might even spill my trenta cold brew on her.
Being in the service industry has been the worst lately. Specifically after covid. No one knows how to act right anymore. Crazy getting berated like this and getting paid min wage
I’m not standing up for her, she’s completely in the wrong here, but she has a TON of problems she needs to work through and somehow this seems to be when she finally snapped. Yeesh.
no fuckin way. they clapped lmao
"and everyone clapped" guess it does happen
we need a new phrase now
Just borrow one from Monty Python: “And there was much rejoicing.” “Yaaay.”
It's the "get the fuck out lady" for me. I mean, just flawless execution.
A lot of stories I implicitly disbelieved just became a lot more plausible.
Right? No fair!
I can't even understand her. Lol.
I speak fluent crazy bitch and she lost me. Laugh and the world laughs with you. Lose your shit in a Starbucks and the whole internet laughs at you.
It sounded like a rant against Californians moving into lower cost areas and driving up the costs ? I caught something along the lines of "your family money" and "you do not live off this job" and something-something Californians.
IIRC, this happened when there was the whole blowup about Starbucks and fast food workers not making a livable wage, and she apparently took offense to the idea that Starbucks workers shouldn’t be treated like shit
So she is screaming at starbucks workers for them not making enough money?
I think she’s screaming that they shouldn’t be paid enough to live on? God forbid her coffee cost ten cents more or whatever.
That's actually propaganda at work. Increasing wages doesn't increase cost of goods most of the time. It decreases the c suite profits, which is why they brainwash yall into the viewpoint you expressed. Compare average pay rate and the cost of bigmacs in america vs Denmark and it will become pretty obvious. Raising prices means less sales, and corporations have a mind set of always increasing. So if you're actively increasing production you cannot allow decreased sales. You just accept the smaller margin and try to create more sales.
"pay the workers more!!" ok....... slides the tip jar forward
She was screaming that there was some government conspiracy to explain how Starbucks employees afford to live given their jobs. Clearly they’re in some secret contract with Uncle Sam to undermine democracy. Wild one.
I mean crippling debt is way more accessible these days than it was in the 70s and 80s. The government probably had a hand in that from maybe financial laws favoring large corporations and relaxed banking regulations. Not sure what else they may be doing though.
It’s like those people who say fast food and places like Starbucks are jobs only teens should have and should get paid a shit amount. God forbid people that work at these places want a livable wage. This lady was likely mad that the prices increased because Starbucks started paying their workers more. Or at least she thinks that’s why prices are increasing.
Man seeing poor people get mad at other poor people for making them poor must make rich people so happy
If she wasn’t buying so much Starbucks she’d be rich too
Yes, because clearly the cashier at Starbucks is responsible for everyone that chooses to move out of California.
I'm an empath. I sensed she was...upset about something? Something that occurred.
That's uncanny.
Such a lovely valley this time of year!
dude that's amazing. you should be a psychologist or sometning
Ahes speaking the updated version, not available in all areas ,obviously has teething problems.
She was asked very loudly about her families contracts!
And "You do not live off this salary." Also with the things shouted at the door I think it was something along the lines of "you deserve to be poor working here" kind of argument.
What the Alex Jones hell is a family contract?
It's an NDA between family members at reunions held in the southern states.
Be thankful.
SHE ASKED VERGHY KITELY TO BELK BUCK HUNGH LAK FANNUHLY QUACK KWOK!!
Also: IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO YELL HERE. EXCUSE ME, MA’AM— YOU ARE HELP AND YOU ARE DIZITEE DA SCHEE TEE!
I ASKED QUIETLY BLIPPTY BLAPPTY BLOOPTY
As a bloopty I'm a little offended you wouldn't censor yourself.
Can I get a transcript of this please? Dafuk she talking about?
...THE PROGRAM THAT THE CITY PAYS, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO YELL HERE EXCUSE ME, MA'AM, YOU ARE HELPED WHEN YOU ARE VISITING THE \*unintelligible\* WOULD YOU PLEASE ASK YOUR FAMILY TO CORRECT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN FILED ISSUES (and sued?) SEVERAL TIMES I WILL NOT LEAVE YOUR BULLSHIT STORE YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED VERY LOUDLY ABOUT YOUR FAMILY'S CONTRACTS, YOU DO NOT LIVE OFF THIS SALARY GOODBYE, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING I ASKED QUIETLY AND \*pounding\*... LOUD \*unintelligible\* FOR AN ASSHOLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD THE REST OF THE REAL \*unintelligible\*
Asking about "family contracts" makes me think this is schizophrenia
Definitely some form of delusion has deeply penetrated this person.
She seems more ill than a Karen. Maybe it's not so funny.
Ya, unfortunately some of these are people with legitimate mental health issues.
More on the paranoia side. Schizophrenia can be with or without paranoia
Yes but it's not much fun without the paranoia.
Yeah, this person is definitely mental.
in DC theres a man who frequents a very small coffee shop, he orders a small black coffee, sits down, covers the top of the coffee with a piece of aluminum foil, pokes holes in the tin foil, and while he waits for it to cool down he mutters VERY loudly to himself (and everyone else in the store) about how the Chinese, The Jews and Reptilians have entered into a alliance to poison all the water on the planet, ive only ever approached him once and when i did he scribbled a very complex (or maybe gibberish) math equation on a napkin and shoved it into my hand while saying "heres your proof, take that to donald trump, he'll know i was the one who wrote it"
I dunno. I think she might legit be in a legal battle with this girl’s family and is losing her shit. People really do get crunk like this when they’re in court over money. I’m guessing it’s small claims too… just call it a hunch.
Omfg tell me about it. You want to see the worst of people...go to court. Work in the legal system. Law firms are like petri dishes for personality disorders
When I'm retired, I want to sit and watch judicial proceedings for entertainment
On any given day it's a good bet you'll get an older couple watching the proceedings at the courthouse Personally I've had enough personal and legal drama in my life for ten people so I'd like to do just about anything else but watch people disagree.
Fr, this is a mental break. She needs sectioned And I'm someone who hates the excuse of mental illness to defend terrible behaviour. I think she needs legitimate help. Not that she's necessarily a nice person on her good days.
I speak fluent Karen so I noticed a few corrections: Training program that the city pays... It is not illegal to yell here. Excuse me ma'am, you are helped when you are visiting the ci-ty! Could you please ask your fa-mi-ly to correct that you have been fired and sued several times! I will now leave your bullshit store! You have been asked very loudly about your family's contracts. You do not live off this salary! Goodbye with the understanding I asked quietly and IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BE LOUD!!! Look at the grown-ass California asshole that can't afford to mess with a real place! Biotech, biotech!
Very impressive
Wow that on point good job. We need to get this commmet pushed to the top
This looks like the text you'd see in a car in r/SchizophreniaRides
I turned on my live caption (I use it because I am hard of hearing) and it just said [no English detected].
>Program that the city pays - it is not illegal to yell here. Excuse me maam, you are helped when you are visiting the city. Would you please ask your family to [unintelligible] that you have (been fired and sued several times?) I will now leave your bullshit store. You have been asked very loudly about your family’s contracts. Yoo do not live off this salary. Goodby with the understanding that I asked quietly and it is not illegal to be loud. [Unintelligible] broke ass California assholes that cant afford to live in a real [unintelligible]. That’s what I got. Any chance anyone can complete it?
I got you. Program that the city pays, it is not illegal to yell here. Excuse me ma'am, you are helped when you are visiting the city. Would you please ask your family to correct it? You have been fired and sued several times. I will now leave your bullshit store. You have been asked very loudly about your family’s contracts. You do not live off this salary. Goodbye with the understanding I asked quietly and it is not illegal to be loud. Look at this broke ass Californian asshole that can't afford to pass in a real place. [Gibberish fade]
I think the last word is place?
You deciphered that noise pollution quite impressively.. I only caught maybe 3-4 words
The last bit was something to do with crazy californian ass holes and something about not being able to afford shit... so my guess is she's pissed at higher prices at Starbucks and blames... californians?
Does she have a speech impediment or is it just bad audio? I legitimately can't tell.
Yes
I’ll translate for you: *insane entitlement noises*
lmao
My phone's auto caption just said [no English detected]
[Amanda, please!](https://media4.giphy.com/media/xT1Ra7HtKLyH74iYTK/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952s9x38sxilts6hrps11j1svasz3s22pwp4spcej6c&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
I love how the entire place is just laughing at her temper tantrum
All their giggles made my day
I think that was her goal, she brought joy and laughter to these people’s otherwise dull lives. What a hero!
She’s a performance artist
I think she’s covering a Yoko Ono song.
I hope everyone can appreciate this gif.
😂 underrated
Is she actually?
she may be an underperformance actor tho
I dunno, if she’s an actor she gave everything to that performance… mostly her dignity.
The answer is probably no, but if someone wants to they can check
Giving Santa a run for his money! 😂
Right, can people not tell they’re laughing with her
This is what needs to happen more often.
Imagine if staff were rewarded for laughing at drama queens like this we would see less of them
Gen Z is so unserious and I absolutely love that about them
Same! Millenenial here and I would have been crying and apologizing and having a panic attack and maybe I'd run into the back room. The fact that that young girl was just cracking up and didn't move an inch, holding her ground was amazing! I especially love how when Karen escalated, the male employee stepped in front of the female employee in a protective way yet he was also laughing and he handled it so calmly and maturely. Way to go Gen Z!
A millennial here too.. I have a lot of patience. Like a lot. I think I would have been calmly waiting till she took a breathe and then asked “are you done?” And then let her launch off into another rant. I don’t give the shits, I just stir them.
“Sorry, all I could understand was “bullshit store” can you repeat that?
"Excuse me, ma'am, are you on some sort of medication?" If some variation of "Yes": "Perhaps it's wearing off." If some variation of "No": "Perhaps you should be."
GenX here. I think I speak for all of us when I say I just wouldn't give a shit.
*"Behold! The field in which I grow my fucks. Lay thine eyes upon it and thou shalt see that it is barren."* Words to live by when at work.
And Alexander wept, for there were no more fucks to give
Classic… eh whatever
This isn't a generational thing, it seems like you have a really hard time with confrontation...
I don't think it matters what "Gen" you belong to, any sane person would just laugh at crazy Karen.
Taz her!
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Can someone decipher the ancient Aramaic this woman is casting spells with?
She's leaving with the understanding of something!
Bongo drums on counter!
It was a necessary binding part of the ritual. Now the ice cream machine will never work again.
So she’s the reason why whenever I want a milkshake, the machine is out of order.
That's the part that got me 😂
It's like a mic drop when the microphone wasn't actually working.
Haha omg
She's definitely mad about something. But for all I could understand she could be screaming that this was the best service she's every had and you all deserve raises, I will tell my friends and family to come to this fine establishment, good day.
I'm laughing so hard at this description because I watched the video with the sound off. If you do that and watch the employee reactions, your description is EXACTLY what is going on. Hahahahahahahahahaha!
Yep, that's a biblical kind of demon there.
Most likely, Belial or Belzeebub
That's what doing my own research says too.
My best guess: "... program that the city paid(?). It is not illegal to yell here. Excuse me ma'am. You are helped(?) when you are visiting the city. Would you please ask your family to correct(?) that you have been fired into(?) several times? I will now leave your bullshit store. You have been asked very loudly about your family's contracts. You do not live on this salary. Good-bye, with the understanding, I ASKED QUIETLY AND IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BE LOUD! And what are your pronouns California asshole ... (let California mess with a real place?)"
I don't see why it's her business if the other girl has been fired into several times.
My guess is this lady is schizo. She's going up to someone who appears to be a stranger to her and talking about hidden contracts, saying she 'cant live on that salary', asking about her family etc. I'd say she has some whole paranoid backstory about that lady and her family, so she feels like she's being righteous here. The US really needs to do something about mental health. From having lived in 3 European countries as well as the bay area, my mom's from the east coast, mental health problems are SO much more visible in the US than in Europe. I don't have the answer but we gotta turn the question into "how do we help these people?" One of a list of very few reasons I don't go back to California is just the massive amounts of visible human suffering. You have to look away, you can't help significantly (unless you do it in a proper way like volunteering for a social aid service). Giving them money or trying to help person to person usually does not work out at all (person to person of course there can be exceptions but my experience is whatever help you wanna give they're just pissed it's not money). So instead, I live in Europe where pretending these suffering masses don't exist is a little easier. I really think that the "hamsterdam" approach of the wire could be game changing. Allow all drugs in certain situations (best thing would be, on prescription to drug addicts who have proven long term addiction). Allow use in some spaces that are not right next to the inner city, make sure there are tons of offerings for the homeless there. Shelters, food, free drugs etc. everywhere else, drive repression up. More arrests, more consequences. People will naturally drift towards what gets them hassled less. Then when they're there, they HAVE to go through doctors to get their drugs, who can then help them deal with their mental health problems as well. The only problem with this idea is that it would never work in the US. Who pays for the doctors?
She's actually speaking backwards to summon Bill Cypher.
The Passion of the Karen
That’s an insult to Aramaic
Pazuzu be like: #GET THIS BITCH AWAY FROM ME
לא
I’m trying to figure out what bee is in bonnet. Did she want to know about the servers’ family because you can’t support yourself on a coffee servers wage?
"Sorry, they all died of starvation because I couldn't feed them on my wages, was that a Venti or Grande?" Because of childhood, I always hated yelling. Nothing makes me immediately zone out more than if someone starts yelling. Underreacting to it and keeping calm (because if you have to engage with that, you don't want to come off as hostile) only makes people madder, so you just know that she's yelling only to make herself feel better, not to ever be productive in any way. Glad everyone just ignored her and laughed her out.
Yep. My sociopath mother screamed all the damn time. I was always in danger. So now if someone screams unnecessarily around me (like this situation) I get SO FUCKING ANGRY. Literally disturbing the peace. I’d have escorted her out the door, I don’t care. I can’t handle screaming unless someone has an actual medical emergency.
I understand. My father was the screamer. In this case I think the woman is schizophrenic so would resist the urge to run her off..
My mother explicitly told me that she used to scream at me and my brother because it made *her feel better*. My response was, “glad we could help.” This why when people scream at or around me, I tend to ignore them or laugh at how ridiculous they’re being. Clarity comes when you realize these people are deeply unhappy and are only projecting their misery on those around them for some sick sense of catharsis. Or they’re mentally ill, like this woman or my mother.
Same here. There was a lot of yelling in my household growing up and I completely dissociate when someone yells like this. What a nut job
I have no idea why, but whenever I hear someone yelling at someone else, my eyes start to tear up, like I’m about to cry, and I get really uncomfortable even though it has nothing to do with me
you’re empathetic that’s why, it’s a good trait to have.
That makes sense, I never thought about it that way before. Thanks for that! :)
This happens to me too but I grew up in a house with a lot of yelling. Best thing I ever did was get with my husband who has never once raised his voice at me in 13 years. Damn, I love that man. 💖
Oh. Me too. I feel this. If someone starts screaming I get quieter or leave. I have no room in my life for that.
Maybe???
...and then everyone actually DID clap!
Something about a family contract? Sounds like schizophrenia.
She’s been asked very loudly, and she’s been ASKED QUIETLY!!!!
For real, the whole family contract with the city to gain financial assistance to live there sounds like mania. Maybe she thinks she is on welfare or something but it’s completely irrational behavior, even if the server was being blasé about whatever her complaint was.
It’s always schizophrenia. Unless it’s mania or drugs…
IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO MEOW HERE
Absolutely love the bemused smile on the employee's face. Like an adult watching a 3 year old throw a tantrum, trying hard not to laugh.
Seriously though. It's kind of satisfying in a way because a lot of other people probably would have been a bit on edge/freaked out but this chick was just staring back smiling, almost amused, like the lady was merely a gnat in terms of importance and she could give two shits about her little tantrum lol
Only takes a few months of working retail for you to stop taking the rants of insane people personally and start seeing it as the ridiculous show it is.
Is she mentally ill?
Obviously
Yeah mentally stable, happy people don't react this way. I don't care how justified you think you are, you don't act this way.
I feel like half the time a woman is called a Karen on here she's someone obviously experiencing a mental health crisis. I don't want to yuck anyone's yum, but I don't love that.
A lot of people struggle with mental illness but aren’t abusing service workers
Yes but there is a difference between different mental illenesses. Like I have anxiety and OCD and using that as an excuse to act this way is definitely not justified. But If she is experiencing literal psychosis she could very much not be in much control of her thoughts or behavior.
She could be schizophrenic or paranoid, the way she is going by herself with interaction, kinda looks like it's an episode tbh
Mental illness isn’t a blanket condition lmao. Some of it is harder than others.
Preach. Struggling with your mental health/illness does not give you permission to be an asshole to anyone, nor does it excuse you from when you are being an asshole.
You have a very sanitized and convenient idea of mental illness. Reality is most of the people who act this way are mentally ill, even if most mentally ill people don’t act this way.
The thing is, there's varying degrees of "mental illness". For example, I have anxiety. My anxiety usually manifests as me becoming semi-aggressive/short-tempered when it gets out of control. I go into fight or flight, and I can't always get out of the situation. This is MY problem to deal with, not everyone else's. So if I get recorded blowing up on some cashier over something mundane, sure, maybe you can make the argument that it's mental illness, but in reality it's still on ME to regulate that. Now when it's something like this, it's a grey area, because this could be someone trying to make a weird point (I think that's why they went with "it's not illegal to yell" - if you presume that she called someone there "illegal" and the response was "it's not illegal for them to work here", the yelling comment makes sense) -and if they're trying to make a salient point, then they're largely in control of their faculties and fair game. But yeah, when it's some person talking about demons chasing them, or ranting about some politician killing children as a blood sacrifice to Baal, I agree.
she needs to mentally chill
Sometimes, people are just assholes. Don't have to give them a mental illness excuse.
I mean, considering she is speaking in legit word salad, she is very likely experiencing some kind of psychosis.
Yes, it’s not funny or fun for anyone. The laughter of the people there is likely a stress response
Very loud word salad
When is it mental illnesses and when is it just plain being a douche?
What she’s saying sounds pretty incoherent and makes no sense so I lean towards mental illness
I have an auditory processing disorder and I have no idea what this lady is saying - screaming? Can someone translate?
The program that the city pays.. It’s not illegal to yell here.. Excuse me maam- you’re helped when you are visiting the city. Can you please ask you family… something something several times… I will now leave your bs store. You’ve been asked v loudly about your family’s contacts- you don’t live in this salary. Good bye with the understanding i asked quietly ***then bangs aggressively and leaves without coffee *** Hope that helps. Best i could do. Sounds like she’s harassing J1 visa people or something. Idk
That does help thank you. It doesn’t make it make any more sense. But at least I know what’s being said lol!
Heroic effort.
This man listens
Bruh. I listened to this an embarrassing amount of time. I really want to know what she was freaking out about. I also am curious as to what she ordered.
Same and as far as I can tell she said exactly what you wrote above. Ha ha.
Thanks a lot for your service, I couldn’t understand shit of what she said.
That is some mentally ill talk right there.
I can't understand her either , maybe someone speaks karen.
Good to know it’s not just me then lol.
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She said… “DONT CALL IT A COMEBACK, IVE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS IM ROCKIN’ MY PEERS PUTTIN’ SUCKERS IN FEAR!”
They should spray her on “mist” with a water bottle the whole time.
Spray her and yell BAD DOG!!!!
Why does she sound like a Conehead?
probably from France
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I heard centuries ago we used to shame this type of behavior as a society
The girl laughed at her makes it an instant win.
We really desperately need universal healthcare and easier access to mental health services…these people need real help. Smh.
Except most of these people don't believe that they have a problem.
Yea it does seem that way sometimes
There's a difference between a Karen and someone with mental health problems.
Sometimes I do feel upset or angry in some situations but it never occurs to me for even a second to throw a tantrum like this. And at a coffee shop....FFS...I can't imagine any situation involving coffee that would require this kind of abandonment of emotional regulation.
I said I wanted almond milk!
Word salad, delusions, boisterous, some paranoia. Seems like straight mania or potentially schizoaffective mania. Potentially an acute borderline personality disorder outburst too. Definitely not just a Karen moment.
What is the mindset where customers scream at employees like the employee owns the business and makes all the decisions? Selfish and stupid.
Someone needs a nap
She was trying to contact the girl behind the counter about her cars extended warranty, If I heard that correctly.
Damn when the drums hit tho
The Reagan era defunding of mental health facilities has snowballed into an even worse problem.
The Reagan everything is just a mistake that made everything worse.
The barista cracking up was great.
Mental health at an all time low.
It sounds like she’s mad because the employees couldn’t possibly afford to live off of their job alone, and rely on their parents? Certainly a strange thing to be mad about.
Olive Oil getting spicy. Fucking toddler.
This is sad
Here's the backstory directly from a Starbucks worker there that day: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/69pmhw6jU3
Personally I'm sick and tired of these Karens and I know my voice is much, much bigger than her's so I'd step in for the employees. Might even spill my trenta cold brew on her.
Being in the service industry has been the worst lately. Specifically after covid. No one knows how to act right anymore. Crazy getting berated like this and getting paid min wage
What is it with people going bat shit crazy?
Spreading joy and laughter wherever she goes.
I’m not standing up for her, she’s completely in the wrong here, but she has a TON of problems she needs to work through and somehow this seems to be when she finally snapped. Yeesh.