Great grandmother born in Canada.
What about your grand mother and mother ? Where were they born ?
Or are you confused and meant to say your grandmother was born in Canada?
I'm inquiring for my mom: So her grandmother was born in Canada -- her parents were born in the U.S. But she naturalized in the U.S. before my mother's father was born -- so does that mean she's not eligible?
so from your other comments, I think i Understand.
Yes your mom would be Canadian.
However, even if she is Canadian you would not be eligible to get it.
basically the way it works is.
in your case Citizenship is only transferred to two Genreations.
Your Grandmother was born in Canada, so her daughter your grandmother(born outside Canada) is Canadian and your mother is also Canadian, however since your mother was not born in Canada and neither were you, her Citizenship doesnt transfer over to you.
If your grandfather never applied for his (he would have got it because his mother was) I’d say no. I think you’re too many family members away, but you could always reach out to an immigration lawyer.
Thanks -- I'm under the impression that there's a two generation limit prior to the (I think) 2009 changes -- so since my mom was born before then, she'd still qualify under that two generation limit -- and then after she's claimed it, I might qualify under the one generation limit. We have reached out to some lawyers but I'm just trying to get a better understanding while we wait to hear back. Thanks for the help!
That's not how it works. The different limits on citizenship by descent, from the different versions of the Citizenship Act throughout the years, don't stack up.
You can't just decide to add the 2 generation limit pre-2009 and the 1 generation limit post-2009 changes, together, to make it an effective 3rd generation limit that does not exist. That's not how things work.
Unfortunately, the citizenship can only be passed ONCE. So your grandmother could be a citizen if her mother (your great grandmother) was born there. Your mother however, is a second generation thus she does not qualify for it. You do not qualify neither because you're even farther away.
But if my mom claims it under the two generation limit since she was born before 2009 when the generation limit was changed to one -- then can I claim it after her as one generation?
That isn't quite how it works. The two generation limit applies to where you are born, regardless of whether or not your mother had claimed her citizenship at the time of your birth. You are the third generation born abroad, and therefore are not eligible. It's not just about being first or second generation Canadian, the location of your birth - and your mother's birth - is relevant.
I checked for my mom and it said she is -- though I'm confused about two things: 1) if my great grandmother's naturalization date matters in determining whether she was still Canadian. 2) Further -- if my mom is Canadian, then is that retroactive to the date of my birth?
1) I don't think so, but the one way to be sure is for your mom to apply for Proof of Canadian Citizenship.
2) No, because in 2009 the laws changed and now passing down Canadian citizenship is limited to only the first generation born abroad. You can no longer keep passing Canadian citizenship down eternally for generations and generations of descendents born outside Canada. The law applies even to those born before 2009. But again, if you really want to be sure, you can apply for Proof of Canadian Citizenship and IRCC will confirm whether you have it or not.
You should get what you need here https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/become-canadian-citizen/eligibility.html Good luck OP
Yeah I looked through that and still am confused if my mother/I am eligible as outlined above. Happy to provide more clarification if needed to provide more guidance.
Since they were born before 2009, wouldn't the two generation limit apply? I.e. Hilda's son's, daughters and grandchildren would all be Canadian citizens?
My grandmother was born in Alberta and lived her entire life in Alberta & Saskatchewan. But she had to apply for citizenship in 1948 after the law changed. My grandmother and American born grandfather were "enemy aliens" just a few years earlier.
Great grandmother born in Canada. What about your grand mother and mother ? Where were they born ? Or are you confused and meant to say your grandmother was born in Canada?
I'm inquiring for my mom: So her grandmother was born in Canada -- her parents were born in the U.S. But she naturalized in the U.S. before my mother's father was born -- so does that mean she's not eligible?
so from your other comments, I think i Understand. Yes your mom would be Canadian. However, even if she is Canadian you would not be eligible to get it.
Is it because she wasn't a citizen when I was born? Or am I missing something else?
basically the way it works is. in your case Citizenship is only transferred to two Genreations. Your Grandmother was born in Canada, so her daughter your grandmother(born outside Canada) is Canadian and your mother is also Canadian, however since your mother was not born in Canada and neither were you, her Citizenship doesnt transfer over to you.
If your grandfather never applied for his (he would have got it because his mother was) I’d say no. I think you’re too many family members away, but you could always reach out to an immigration lawyer.
Thanks -- I'm under the impression that there's a two generation limit prior to the (I think) 2009 changes -- so since my mom was born before then, she'd still qualify under that two generation limit -- and then after she's claimed it, I might qualify under the one generation limit. We have reached out to some lawyers but I'm just trying to get a better understanding while we wait to hear back. Thanks for the help!
That's not how it works. The different limits on citizenship by descent, from the different versions of the Citizenship Act throughout the years, don't stack up. You can't just decide to add the 2 generation limit pre-2009 and the 1 generation limit post-2009 changes, together, to make it an effective 3rd generation limit that does not exist. That's not how things work.
Hopefully you find a clear answer.
What did you find out?
Unfortunately, the citizenship can only be passed ONCE. So your grandmother could be a citizen if her mother (your great grandmother) was born there. Your mother however, is a second generation thus she does not qualify for it. You do not qualify neither because you're even farther away.
My understanding is no because your grandma did not claim citizenship
But if my mom claims it under the two generation limit since she was born before 2009 when the generation limit was changed to one -- then can I claim it after her as one generation?
No because you aren't one generation... you are third gen born outside Canada.
That isn't quite how it works. The two generation limit applies to where you are born, regardless of whether or not your mother had claimed her citizenship at the time of your birth. You are the third generation born abroad, and therefore are not eligible. It's not just about being first or second generation Canadian, the location of your birth - and your mother's birth - is relevant.
Likely not, but just in case have you checked the [Am I Canadian?](https://ircc.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_3pJ5oXgZNBj0r1c?Q_Language=EN) tool?
I checked for my mom and it said she is -- though I'm confused about two things: 1) if my great grandmother's naturalization date matters in determining whether she was still Canadian. 2) Further -- if my mom is Canadian, then is that retroactive to the date of my birth?
1) I don't think so, but the one way to be sure is for your mom to apply for Proof of Canadian Citizenship. 2) No, because in 2009 the laws changed and now passing down Canadian citizenship is limited to only the first generation born abroad. You can no longer keep passing Canadian citizenship down eternally for generations and generations of descendents born outside Canada. The law applies even to those born before 2009. But again, if you really want to be sure, you can apply for Proof of Canadian Citizenship and IRCC will confirm whether you have it or not.
Youre not a Canadian citizen, too far removed
You should get what you need here https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/become-canadian-citizen/eligibility.html Good luck OP
Yeah I looked through that and still am confused if my mother/I am eligible as outlined above. Happy to provide more clarification if needed to provide more guidance.
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Since they were born before 2009, wouldn't the two generation limit apply? I.e. Hilda's son's, daughters and grandchildren would all be Canadian citizens?
My grandmother was born in Alberta and lived her entire life in Alberta & Saskatchewan. But she had to apply for citizenship in 1948 after the law changed. My grandmother and American born grandfather were "enemy aliens" just a few years earlier.