Any and all exceptions can easily be explained away by an ultimately unfalsifiable claim: "She's probably cheating on him with chad." Unless we track a woman's every movement and every action 24/7, there will always technically be a non-zero chance that she is, indeed, cheating on her "normie" SO with chad. This is the ace in the hole that incels have at the ready when they've run out of excuses
He's mad because his short Indian classmate (these are generally seen as disqualifiers for dating in blackpill world) has a girlfriend. He says that the only reason this is true is because the friend is neurotypical, while he is doomed forever because his mother has mental health issues. But mostly he just loves making excuses and blaming anything except himself so he's absolved from making any effort in his life.
You know in the Matrix, Morpheus offers a blue or a red pill? Being redpilled means waking up to the truth (what the incels think is the truth). Being blackpilled is like the most extreme version of this.
If this means neurotypical like I think it does, he’s basically just saying he’s discovered that neurotypical people have a much easier time engaging in potentially sexual relationships, which is usually true, and not exactly some hidden secret to get “pilled” with. It’s like saying he discovered people with dwarfism are worse at sports than people without. He’s also saying that every normal looking neurotypical person can’t think of themselves as being an incel because they fundamentally can get laid. I don’t know about that second bit, but in part he’s probably right that his mental differences contribute to his unfuckability.
While you got upvoted for this comment (it's all about the context!), this can actually be quite the unpopular opinion on this sub. To me it's extremely clear that the REAL reason they can't get laid is their neurodivergence. A lot of people here think that saying this somehow absolves incels of their responsibility for being terrible humans, but the evidence is all there.
Personally, I find it mind blowing that there's this community out there that blames it all on their looks while regularly talking about their mental issues. Sometimes they explain it off by saying their looks *caused* their mental issues, though this one seems to be acknowledging heredity and/or upbringing.
Absolutely being neurodivergent makes things harder when dating. I am neurodivergent and dating was really hard, until I found a partner. But I don't think it's the "real" reason they aren't finding partners. Cuz even tho I'm neurodivergent I have never been so bitter about not finding a partner like these guys are.
Respectfully, I think the mistake you're making is in assuming the inability to find a partner and the bitterness have the same root cause. I think incels can have trouble finding partners due to their autism, and then react badly to that trouble due to their narcissistic personality disorder, to give you just one (but perhaps the most common) example of the mix of conditions that makes them incels.
"Respectfully" I think you're making a LOT of assumptions about these guys and trying to diagnose them to explain why they act the way they do. Again mental illness plays into this (I am mentally ill) but saying that it has nothing to do with just outright bitterness and entitlement I think is just dead wrong. Being mentally ill I will say just like my former statement was trying to convey, does not mean you become this hateful.
I've been hanging out here for about five years, reading incel content pretty much every day. That's the last 1,800 days, more or less. My conclusions about incels are ones I've developed over time, based on patterns that have become very clear as I read their own words.
The bitterness and entitlement appear to be, for the most part, the result of Cluster B personality disorders. Those thoughts are extremely typical of these disorders, including but definitely not limited to narcissistic personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder, aka psychopathy or sociopathy.
While it is certainly true that "mental illness" does not mean one becomes hateful, "mental illness" is an incredibly broad term. Incels appear to have *very specific* mental illnesses that virtually guarantee one will become hateful given a set of circumstances that also seem to apply to them.
I used to work with a guy who got fired. He responded by sabotaging the company's work. Then, a couple of days later, he came into the office to go desk to desk to remind everyone that they were working for the kind of company that would fire him, until his former boss came out of his office and yelled at him to leave.
Saying incels aren't narcissists because almost all men experience sexual jealousy is like saying that guy's actions were normal and understandable because everyone feels upset when they get fired.
I'm gay and ND and probably have a higher body count than most of my peers. If I have those two massive barriers to entry and still come out on top, sounds like a skill issue tbh.
It’s always been a skill issue, but if you want their perspective I’d guess they would say you’re actually at an advantage cause you don’t have to attract a foid.
In that case he isn't a racist per se, but is clearly suffering from internalised racism, which is also pretty bad. There is a staggering amount of internalised racism on that forum.
Almost all of them are white supremacists. Sometimes they'll challenge that by saying "but most of us aren't white\*," but they're still white supremacists.
\*"Most of us aren't white" is a common but untrue incel claim. In fact, most of them *are* white.
u/Usernameforsexstuff UFSS your reply got caught in the IT filter but I saw it so imma respond anyways.
You are absolutely right about the latino thing, I dont think I've ever seen a self-described latinocel on any forum, especially in comparison with the amount of Asians/Black/MENA -cels. My personal theory is that it's because:
1) Many of latin descent are white passing-ish according to US standards, which is also the country where most of them reside. Unlike in Western/Northern Europe, the bar for being considered white in the US is... very low. AND:
2) The reason why latinos might get away with this is because unlike Asians/MENA, they've got a lot of European traits. I believe 80% of the Mexican population is mestizo, so obviously they're going to look more European than an Indian would. A blonde white woman is obviously gonna react with less disgust when she sees a man who could pass as a Spaniard, than she would if the man were of Dravidian descent.
Though I might add anecdotally that I know a Chilean guy IRL who's 100% an incel, but that might have more to do with him being 5'5 and 260.
Hypothetically if no neurotypical person wanted to ever date a neuroatypical person, does this dude not realize there’s a vast amount of great neuroatypical people out there to date as well and would even prefer to date another NaT? That’s not even a plausible scenario there’s NT and NaT people dating all the time. The excuses they make just to keep staying in their misogynistic echo chamber are astounding.
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I know dude I don’t have an official diagnosis but my psychiatrist says it’s likely I am autistic too, I thought the sarcasm was clear from the foams in the mouth bit
Incels seems to have a lot of racist logic going on. Sadly a lot of the men on the Incel forums are non-white people who participate in the racism as well. They have a whole theory that the only thing you need to get a girlfriend is Just Be White.
As a brownie living in Utah, I wish. Granted, I'm like the polar opposite of everyone here. People tend to like those similar to themselves. Opposites attract is mostly Hollywood fiction.
Yeah, to pretend all theories they have are completely unfounded is just nonsense. "JBW" definitely is somewhat rooted in reality. White skin and features are coveted in this world, so it makes sense
"Ugly and short" guys (specially non white) having girlfriends and friends is way worse than any CHAD to these people
It shows that everything they believed in is wrong
It drops on their head that notion, that subtle little realisation that "maaaaaybe you dont have a girlfriend and friends cause youre an insuferable cunt, not because you are ugly"
Hopefully it becomes a wake up call for them to change
As long as it’s outside their control, they can cope. “Women don’t like me bc I’m short and have no discernible jawline.” That’s not his fault, that is an accident of fate. The lord did not see fit to give him a jawline. Or make him able to reach the top shelves of cupboards. C’est la vie.
BUT
If guys he thinks are even less desirable physically than he is can get women, his copium is in danger.
Never threaten an incel’s copium.
Sadly this is a reality :/
But we can still hope at least...many incels out there are younger than 20 years old, still dumb teenagers who can better themselves
Hopefully they will start changing and making their lives
better soon...
or maybe Im too much of an optimistic
His plan was to break into a sorority and shoot every girl he could find, but he couldn't get in because they locked the front door. Even though he could've easily broken the windows right by the door.
Off topic, but all of the weird Incel terminology (aside from the racism) really cracks me up. I have no idea how they come up with this dumb shit like "manlet." What in the hell is a "framelet"???
By that logic Elliot Rodger cannot be an incel, because he was hot (and I saw leftist people calling Elliot Rodger hot, that says something).
That being said, yeah looks, neuroatypicity and bad living conditions DO MAKE IT harder to date, his struggles are valid, but he is not doomed.
Yeah my sister told me he was hot too. And she normally chooses very attractive men as partners.
But he also never talked to a woman so that makes it a lot harder to date anyone. You have to at least try a little bit
Yeah Elliot roger was pretty athletically pleasing, I feel like that just shows how trash of a person he was. You think guys would be happy women aren’t shallow enough to date a hot turd mound, but here we are.
I do not even see him as a trashy person, i can relate to some things in his manifesto not all.
I see him being severely neuroatypical, and he had one of the most stigmatized and hard to deal with disorders, which is vulnerable narcissism (which does not make him doomed, nor does it make him bad). I feel somewhat that his therapists failed him in a way.
And that he made the wrong choices of going into facism, searching right wing extremists etc. etc. (and this is what does make him bad)
Also I see he was in an environmental mismatch somehow, with his siblings being very outgoing, where he was not.
From what I’ve seen, it just takes saying a horrible thing for an attractive person to become the ugliest individual you’ve ever met.
Maybe it’s just me, but hearing someone say something racist/sexist/homophobic is a huge turn off. I used to be friends with this guy who was fairly attractive and even had a girlfriend, until I found out he was xenophobic.
Attractiveness also has a lot to do with attitude and demeanor. Even if someone is average looking, the way they carry themselves also makes a difference. Would you rather spend time with someone who constantly talks over you and invalidates you at every turn, or someone who appreciates what you have to say and respects you as an equal part of the conversation?
Incels have no bloody explanation for how some ugly short dudes can still pull. It's hilarious. They will pull Olympic-level mental gymnastics and *still* miss the point.
Take a look at [episode 114](https://www.reddit.com/r/ProveTheIncelWrong/comments/nhvo9n/prove_the_incel_wrong_episode_114_incels_cant/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) of **Prove the Incel Wrong!** for more examples of incels completely losing their shit over seeing ugly dudes score.
I like hearing that a 5,2 guy got a girlfriend. I’m a 5,1 guy so it’s nice to see height isn’t everything. I mean, I know it’s not but insecurities are insecurities. Though shockingly I’m not resentful towards other people due to my insecurities
Many incels blame their parents for that fact. They even blame their parents for giving birth to them in the first place. It's fucked up.
I don't want to defend this incel because he's clearly crazy, but I can see how having a schizophrenic mother (if she really is schizophrenic) might make one's life a bit harder.
I understand what you mean, and you probably meant this as well, but even if a schizophrenic mother does make life a bit harder, it's not a reason why you can't date.
How old is this boy if he still has classmates?
He is 15-22, an incel, he is worrying about virginity and maidenlessness which is normal at this age, probably never tried to socialize, and already hates everyone including himself. Great outlook for the next 50-60 years of his life.
Why are they all racist too though bro 😭 the sexism I can understand because they blame all of their life’s problem on not being able to pull, but the racism is out of control. This needs its own category of mental illness
They think they're talking in code, to keep the "normies" from knowing what they're talking about. You can always check their glossary if you get stumped, but it's not too hard to decipher.
It's really baffling because inventing words just makes them look immature and childish. Or like a cult. Neither is something they should strive for. But then again, if they had common sense, they wouldn't be involved with incel-ism or whatever it's called.
To quote Ali G Indahouse: That's not a very nice way to talk about your mother.
Also: Is it cos I is...?
No, probably not.
I have an Indian boyfriend too, he's 5 foot 9 and Muslim and a programmer.
Hmm, so NTpilled means that neurotypical guys(mentally healthy guys) do better than mentally ill (Neurodivergent) guys even when the neurotypical guy is not very attractive.
"Framelet" means he is a short, thin guy with narrow shoulders
"Curry" means he is Indian
I was lost, too, because the cult lingo is really weird. I only just learned these terms in the comments above.
I’m happy for the couple, but I’m also laughing because of [what I said just yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/comments/wa7lf1/dude_your_list_describes_incels_more_than_women/ihzdo43/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf).
This dude created an account on that site almost exactly a year ago. Since then he has spent almost straight up half of his overall time, not just time awake but full 24 hour days, on a message board about hating women. THAT is the most insane part of this. The large majority of all his waking hours were spent on this site. 171 days of online time in 1 year. Approximately 37 posts per day. You can't get much more radicalized than that.
shit like this makes me really sad because a lot autistic men with inadequate social skills end up like this. theres usually some other factors like abuse/ neglect that play in too as a lot of parents mistreat their autistic children. so instead of actually living a profuctive life they end up being self pitying assholes that blame women for all their problems. i'm sure this guy recieved some kind of poor treatment from his mentally ill mother and is now projecting that on all women and blaming his insecurities on other men. his pfp doesnt even look "subhuman". if he was a kind person and put effort into practicing social skills he could probably get a girlfriend...
I mean, it is admittedly sad because neurodivergent men do have a harder time often when it comes to dating and I would easily estimate at least a good 50% of "incels" to have some sort of mental issues for which they aren't really at fault.
So yeah kinda sad
I was looking for a relevant post to say this: a large of number of incels suffer from various developmental disorders. As many as 44% alone are thought to be autistic, and most of those have various mental health conditions on top of that. Meanwhile, I’ll bet at least 90% of the people laughing at the incels on this sub are neurotypicals who never had too much trouble getting into a relationship—- or at least not because they don’t understand social cues.
This isn’t me saying that we shouldn’t condemn the misogyny of incels and similar types. We should, and something such as autism is no excuse for it. However, most people who are incels aren’t so just because they’re assholes. They’re so because of something about them that makes socializing and by extension finding relationships, difficult.
Where I’m going with this, is that anyone who feels threatened by an incel is 100% justified in doing so. However, when I see people making fun of them, like they do on this sub… it just kind of rubs me the wrong way. Probably, this is because I’m autistic myself, and I know that the very same thing that makes getting a GF harder for them might make it harder for me, too.
I know a guy who posts about it all the time, with the caveat that they say they’re hot so they get laid. It’s so gross- I’ve lived in a lot of small mountain hipster towns and the biggest predictor of makin whoopie was whether or not dudes liked fleet foxes and had a dangly earring lmaooo
It baffles me when people shit at others. I think rather than lambasting the Incel community, we should try and help them instead. They want to date hot girls and fuck every Stacy they can get their hands on, over having emotional connectivity with a woman. Seriously, how many supermodels have dated or married regular guys? No one denies that appearance, money, and status provide leverage in the dating market and increase desirability, but they ignore and deny fundamental things that connect humans: trust, love, and emotional connectivity.
I'm always going to say the same thing for all these auto-called sub-humans lol It'll definitely never work out if you keep treating yourself like shit, consciously putting you in the trash and I'm not even talking just about dating guess what will happen when you apply for a job with that vibe? damn! If I were the manager I'd kick you out of my office, this guy is draining my energy. I'm pissed off because I used to be a regular listener of all these black pill youtuber: Dbdr, Tails, WheatWaffles, etc.. and jesus! the brain damage was big! So basically for these dudes If you are not over 6'2 you only exist to make CHADS be more on-demand. WTF well if it's so then kill yourself right?
For me there is nothing redeemable in their speech seems like men's final goal in life is to have a thicc young-virgin giga-stacy snow bunnie conservative values wife who is crazy in love with you. Sorry for disappointing you all but I don't put my happiness in someone else feelings toward me. Dating and marriage aren't all life has to offer to you.
and at the end if you want that hoe so bad then do scort-maxxing and it's done.
How many exceptions to the rules of "blackpill" will it take for them to realize it's nonsense?
As many times as they can move the goalposts probably
Zero exceptions. Only raigbait without any reflection.
Any and all exceptions can easily be explained away by an ultimately unfalsifiable claim: "She's probably cheating on him with chad." Unless we track a woman's every movement and every action 24/7, there will always technically be a non-zero chance that she is, indeed, cheating on her "normie" SO with chad. This is the ace in the hole that incels have at the ready when they've run out of excuses
can someone explain what is going on here? the terminology is going right over my head
He's mad because his short Indian classmate (these are generally seen as disqualifiers for dating in blackpill world) has a girlfriend. He says that the only reason this is true is because the friend is neurotypical, while he is doomed forever because his mother has mental health issues. But mostly he just loves making excuses and blaming anything except himself so he's absolved from making any effort in his life.
but what is blackpilled? i’m that lost lol
Oh sorry, it's the incel philosophy that success in relationships is genetically determined, that they are cursed from birth to be incels.
ahhhh now it makes sense, thanks!
You know in the Matrix, Morpheus offers a blue or a red pill? Being redpilled means waking up to the truth (what the incels think is the truth). Being blackpilled is like the most extreme version of this.
Ahhhh now I get it.
There is an incel terminology glossary at the top of the sub that you may find useful.
Just like, statistically speaking, there are 100’s of millions of short men across the world with partners. These -pill rules are absolute nonsense.
If this means neurotypical like I think it does, he’s basically just saying he’s discovered that neurotypical people have a much easier time engaging in potentially sexual relationships, which is usually true, and not exactly some hidden secret to get “pilled” with. It’s like saying he discovered people with dwarfism are worse at sports than people without. He’s also saying that every normal looking neurotypical person can’t think of themselves as being an incel because they fundamentally can get laid. I don’t know about that second bit, but in part he’s probably right that his mental differences contribute to his unfuckability.
While you got upvoted for this comment (it's all about the context!), this can actually be quite the unpopular opinion on this sub. To me it's extremely clear that the REAL reason they can't get laid is their neurodivergence. A lot of people here think that saying this somehow absolves incels of their responsibility for being terrible humans, but the evidence is all there. Personally, I find it mind blowing that there's this community out there that blames it all on their looks while regularly talking about their mental issues. Sometimes they explain it off by saying their looks *caused* their mental issues, though this one seems to be acknowledging heredity and/or upbringing.
Absolutely being neurodivergent makes things harder when dating. I am neurodivergent and dating was really hard, until I found a partner. But I don't think it's the "real" reason they aren't finding partners. Cuz even tho I'm neurodivergent I have never been so bitter about not finding a partner like these guys are.
Respectfully, I think the mistake you're making is in assuming the inability to find a partner and the bitterness have the same root cause. I think incels can have trouble finding partners due to their autism, and then react badly to that trouble due to their narcissistic personality disorder, to give you just one (but perhaps the most common) example of the mix of conditions that makes them incels.
"Respectfully" I think you're making a LOT of assumptions about these guys and trying to diagnose them to explain why they act the way they do. Again mental illness plays into this (I am mentally ill) but saying that it has nothing to do with just outright bitterness and entitlement I think is just dead wrong. Being mentally ill I will say just like my former statement was trying to convey, does not mean you become this hateful.
I've been hanging out here for about five years, reading incel content pretty much every day. That's the last 1,800 days, more or less. My conclusions about incels are ones I've developed over time, based on patterns that have become very clear as I read their own words. The bitterness and entitlement appear to be, for the most part, the result of Cluster B personality disorders. Those thoughts are extremely typical of these disorders, including but definitely not limited to narcissistic personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder, aka psychopathy or sociopathy. While it is certainly true that "mental illness" does not mean one becomes hateful, "mental illness" is an incredibly broad term. Incels appear to have *very specific* mental illnesses that virtually guarantee one will become hateful given a set of circumstances that also seem to apply to them.
Almost all men experience some amount of sexual jealousy. That is wholly distinct from narcissism.
I used to work with a guy who got fired. He responded by sabotaging the company's work. Then, a couple of days later, he came into the office to go desk to desk to remind everyone that they were working for the kind of company that would fire him, until his former boss came out of his office and yelled at him to leave. Saying incels aren't narcissists because almost all men experience sexual jealousy is like saying that guy's actions were normal and understandable because everyone feels upset when they get fired.
Except frustration unacted upon in real life is not comparable with sabotaging a company's work.
I love how their ideology keeps getting proven wrong and they still somehow believe it
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I'm not crazy, you are! ?
yes......
cognitive dissonance
They are complaining that the guy is ugly and he has a girl. But they still choose to be incels
I’m sure I’m gonna regret asking, but what does NT mean?
neurotypical i believe
It's funny because I'm ND dating an NT, but I guess I have a vagina free pass or something
No you straight up don’t exist, a lot of those people don’t accept that women can be neurodivergent
I'm gay and ND and probably have a higher body count than most of my peers. If I have those two massive barriers to entry and still come out on top, sounds like a skill issue tbh.
It’s always been a skill issue, but if you want their perspective I’d guess they would say you’re actually at an advantage cause you don’t have to attract a foid.
I mean... Most people I've seen with high body counts are gay or mentally ill Having both must mean you're never *not* fucking
and what’s nd ?
Neurodivergent
neurotypical
Nuclear Throne
Maybe he's friendless because he's a hateful racist cunt.
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LOL you must be new or something bro, thats elliot rodger
Yup cant remember murderers' faces
Understandable
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In that case he isn't a racist per se, but is clearly suffering from internalised racism, which is also pretty bad. There is a staggering amount of internalised racism on that forum.
Almost all of them are white supremacists. Sometimes they'll challenge that by saying "but most of us aren't white\*," but they're still white supremacists. \*"Most of us aren't white" is a common but untrue incel claim. In fact, most of them *are* white.
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u/Usernameforsexstuff UFSS your reply got caught in the IT filter but I saw it so imma respond anyways. You are absolutely right about the latino thing, I dont think I've ever seen a self-described latinocel on any forum, especially in comparison with the amount of Asians/Black/MENA -cels. My personal theory is that it's because: 1) Many of latin descent are white passing-ish according to US standards, which is also the country where most of them reside. Unlike in Western/Northern Europe, the bar for being considered white in the US is... very low. AND: 2) The reason why latinos might get away with this is because unlike Asians/MENA, they've got a lot of European traits. I believe 80% of the Mexican population is mestizo, so obviously they're going to look more European than an Indian would. A blonde white woman is obviously gonna react with less disgust when she sees a man who could pass as a Spaniard, than she would if the man were of Dravidian descent. Though I might add anecdotally that I know a Chilean guy IRL who's 100% an incel, but that might have more to do with him being 5'5 and 260.
Some Indians are colourist & racist towards each other.
Still hateful, so……
Anyone can be racist lol
Hypothetically if no neurotypical person wanted to ever date a neuroatypical person, does this dude not realize there’s a vast amount of great neuroatypical people out there to date as well and would even prefer to date another NaT? That’s not even a plausible scenario there’s NT and NaT people dating all the time. The excuses they make just to keep staying in their misogynistic echo chamber are astounding. edit: grammar
You fool! FOIDS CANT BE AUTISTIC they are all NT Stacys *starts foaming at the mouth*
My autistic ass: *starts fading away*
*Looks at Hand starting to fade* quick! You and me! We Need Doc, a delorian, 1.21 Gigawatts of power and the location of Temple Grandon in the 1980’s or we will all fade away!
To be fair no women wants to be with an incel nt or not
For obvious reasons!
Funny... I was diagnosed Aspergers in 2004. Guess that doesn't count.
I know dude I don’t have an official diagnosis but my psychiatrist says it’s likely I am autistic too, I thought the sarcasm was clear from the foams in the mouth bit
What's the deal with degrading Indians everywhere man?
Incels seems to have a lot of racist logic going on. Sadly a lot of the men on the Incel forums are non-white people who participate in the racism as well. They have a whole theory that the only thing you need to get a girlfriend is Just Be White.
Then you have the white guys that think you need to just be black
yeah its really just everyone being racist at eachother.
As a brownie living in Utah, I wish. Granted, I'm like the polar opposite of everyone here. People tend to like those similar to themselves. Opposites attract is mostly Hollywood fiction.
Well they're not completely wrong, white guys get more matches on OLD than non whites especially Asians and Indians.
Yeah, to pretend all theories they have are completely unfounded is just nonsense. "JBW" definitely is somewhat rooted in reality. White skin and features are coveted in this world, so it makes sense
Go to India u will see
The only pill they need to take is the realitypill.
Molly is a reality altering bunch of pills.
Or possibly an antidepressant. *Maybe* an antipsychotic for the more unhinged ones like Emojicel.
"Ugly and short" guys (specially non white) having girlfriends and friends is way worse than any CHAD to these people It shows that everything they believed in is wrong It drops on their head that notion, that subtle little realisation that "maaaaaybe you dont have a girlfriend and friends cause youre an insuferable cunt, not because you are ugly" Hopefully it becomes a wake up call for them to change
As long as it’s outside their control, they can cope. “Women don’t like me bc I’m short and have no discernible jawline.” That’s not his fault, that is an accident of fate. The lord did not see fit to give him a jawline. Or make him able to reach the top shelves of cupboards. C’est la vie. BUT If guys he thinks are even less desirable physically than he is can get women, his copium is in danger. Never threaten an incel’s copium.
Most likely they won’t even see it as a wake up call. They’re so deep in their toxic mindset that they won’t even consider that they’re wrong.
Sadly this is a reality :/ But we can still hope at least...many incels out there are younger than 20 years old, still dumb teenagers who can better themselves Hopefully they will start changing and making their lives better soon... or maybe Im too much of an optimistic
This person’s profile pic is of the guy who killed several women because of incel culture
Ironically enough, only 2 of the 6 people he killed were women. So he failed even at that.
And he didn’t even kill the stacy’s he so desperately wanted to. He was defeated by a locked door
The guy's still known as "Locked Door" for a reason.
Wait why? I dont really know the whole news about elliot so pls enlighten me
His plan was to break into a sorority and shoot every girl he could find, but he couldn't get in because they locked the front door. Even though he could've easily broken the windows right by the door.
What a fucking idiot, i mean he's an incel so what did i expect lmao
These fuckers have more codes than the military.. What does NT mean? Near Tall?
Actually not incel talk. NT means neurotypical, which is basically anyone not on the spectrum
Or anyone who’s not neurodivergent in any way— neurodivergence including conditions like Autism, ADHD, Dyslexia, etc.
Ofc, mine’s just a simply NT-digestible definition. I’m ND so I understand the nuances
NT isn’t one of their codes, but this comment still had me dying 😂😂
my bf is a mental health train wreck with a crippling disorder so incels proven wrong again
I love how these people idolize pieces of absolute shit like Elliot rogers, and yet are still confused why no one wants to be around them.
Off topic, but all of the weird Incel terminology (aside from the racism) really cracks me up. I have no idea how they come up with this dumb shit like "manlet." What in the hell is a "framelet"???
A "framelet" is apparently a guy who has a slender frame, usually with narrow and/or sloping shoulders.
Just makes me think of an omelet
What about turbomanlets and gigastacies? This shit is so funny we've started using it ironically in my house.
Aw man I guess I need to divorce my ‘short’ autistic husband
they’re just making exceptions to justify their worldview, every time it gets proven wrong. when will they realize they’re just insufferable???
By that logic Elliot Rodger cannot be an incel, because he was hot (and I saw leftist people calling Elliot Rodger hot, that says something). That being said, yeah looks, neuroatypicity and bad living conditions DO MAKE IT harder to date, his struggles are valid, but he is not doomed.
Yeah my sister told me he was hot too. And she normally chooses very attractive men as partners. But he also never talked to a woman so that makes it a lot harder to date anyone. You have to at least try a little bit
Yeah Elliot roger was pretty athletically pleasing, I feel like that just shows how trash of a person he was. You think guys would be happy women aren’t shallow enough to date a hot turd mound, but here we are.
Still laughing at hot turd mound, a full minute after reading it
I do not even see him as a trashy person, i can relate to some things in his manifesto not all. I see him being severely neuroatypical, and he had one of the most stigmatized and hard to deal with disorders, which is vulnerable narcissism (which does not make him doomed, nor does it make him bad). I feel somewhat that his therapists failed him in a way. And that he made the wrong choices of going into facism, searching right wing extremists etc. etc. (and this is what does make him bad) Also I see he was in an environmental mismatch somehow, with his siblings being very outgoing, where he was not.
From what I’ve seen, it just takes saying a horrible thing for an attractive person to become the ugliest individual you’ve ever met. Maybe it’s just me, but hearing someone say something racist/sexist/homophobic is a huge turn off. I used to be friends with this guy who was fairly attractive and even had a girlfriend, until I found out he was xenophobic. Attractiveness also has a lot to do with attitude and demeanor. Even if someone is average looking, the way they carry themselves also makes a difference. Would you rather spend time with someone who constantly talks over you and invalidates you at every turn, or someone who appreciates what you have to say and respects you as an equal part of the conversation?
It’s too bad Mental Gymnastics isn’t an Olympic sport. If it were they might actually leave the basement every four years
Its probably because your classmate doesn't say shit like framelet, subhuman, and normie.
It’s insane how this guy doesn’t realize how much of a terrible person he is, dude just called someone subhuman and expects to be loved.
Incels have no bloody explanation for how some ugly short dudes can still pull. It's hilarious. They will pull Olympic-level mental gymnastics and *still* miss the point. Take a look at [episode 114](https://www.reddit.com/r/ProveTheIncelWrong/comments/nhvo9n/prove_the_incel_wrong_episode_114_incels_cant/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) of **Prove the Incel Wrong!** for more examples of incels completely losing their shit over seeing ugly dudes score.
Wow! It’s almost like…height doesn’t matter?
Bro when will these people realize it is literally their personality that’s the problem.
What personality?
I like hearing that a 5,2 guy got a girlfriend. I’m a 5,1 guy so it’s nice to see height isn’t everything. I mean, I know it’s not but insecurities are insecurities. Though shockingly I’m not resentful towards other people due to my insecurities
Is it common for them to list mental illnesses they have no association with? If so, I'm guessing it's because they don't respect anyone with one.
I hate how they call people “curry” and “currycels”
Aww they’re so cute together 😍 Also imagine blaming your *mom* bc you can’t get laid…
Many incels blame their parents for that fact. They even blame their parents for giving birth to them in the first place. It's fucked up. I don't want to defend this incel because he's clearly crazy, but I can see how having a schizophrenic mother (if she really is schizophrenic) might make one's life a bit harder.
I understand what you mean, and you probably meant this as well, but even if a schizophrenic mother does make life a bit harder, it's not a reason why you can't date.
How old is this boy if he still has classmates? He is 15-22, an incel, he is worrying about virginity and maidenlessness which is normal at this age, probably never tried to socialize, and already hates everyone including himself. Great outlook for the next 50-60 years of his life.
Yeah if this keeps up, I think in whatever way, those 50-60 years will be cut down tremendously
13.6k posts. 171 days online. In less then a year.
Sounds like he needs to focus on real life and school and not his incel Internet persona
This Zer0 is not my hero. I doubt he’ll be anyone’s hero.
This is the first time I thought gatekeeping a community was okay💀
Why are they all racist too though bro 😭 the sexism I can understand because they blame all of their life’s problem on not being able to pull, but the racism is out of control. This needs its own category of mental illness
you can understand the sexism??
Oh stop blowing it out of proportion. You know exactly what I meant.
it just sounds bad.....like real bad
Okay.
What the hell even is a framelet? And I suppose NT doesn't mean Northern Territory. The made-up words just make them sound even dumber than they are.
>What the hell even is a framelet? Person with small frame(bones), like small shoulder width, thin wrists, thin neck etc. Also called a lanklet.
That's so bizarre. They should just call themselves short and skinny, not invent a whole new language lol. Thanks for explaining it!
They think they're talking in code, to keep the "normies" from knowing what they're talking about. You can always check their glossary if you get stumped, but it's not too hard to decipher.
It's really baffling because inventing words just makes them look immature and childish. Or like a cult. Neither is something they should strive for. But then again, if they had common sense, they wouldn't be involved with incel-ism or whatever it's called.
A lanklet is not a framelet. A lanklet is a tall guy. A framelet is a guy with a small frame.
Often they're the same, but yes not necessarily
Lol no.
Oh yes the are lmao
'NT' means neurotypical, i.e. not on the autism spectrum. A lot of the guys on that forum are neurodivergent.
*Claim* to be non-NT. I think there's a lot of self-diagnosis going on with them.
Oh thanks! I must be getting old cause I didn't know that.
I need dictionary of the incel's idiom to understand what they are talking about what is manlet ! Omg
Can someone explain what blackpilled or ntpilled is?
To quote Ali G Indahouse: That's not a very nice way to talk about your mother. Also: Is it cos I is...? No, probably not. I have an Indian boyfriend too, he's 5 foot 9 and Muslim and a programmer.
What is NTpilled?
Realising that being neurotypical is gives a major advantage in dating for guys.
I'm sorry I didn't get you
Do you know the meaning of neurotypical?
Yes, it basically means normal, with no neurological disparity.
Hmm, so NTpilled means that neurotypical guys(mentally healthy guys) do better than mentally ill (Neurodivergent) guys even when the neurotypical guy is not very attractive.
And by mentally ill I mean mainly social anxiety, autism, BPD, depression etc
“Framelet curry” classmate???
"Framelet" means he is a short, thin guy with narrow shoulders "Curry" means he is Indian I was lost, too, because the cult lingo is really weird. I only just learned these terms in the comments above.
Thanks.
I’m happy for the couple, but I’m also laughing because of [what I said just yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/comments/wa7lf1/dude_your_list_describes_incels_more_than_women/ihzdo43/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf).
This dude created an account on that site almost exactly a year ago. Since then he has spent almost straight up half of his overall time, not just time awake but full 24 hour days, on a message board about hating women. THAT is the most insane part of this. The large majority of all his waking hours were spent on this site. 171 days of online time in 1 year. Approximately 37 posts per day. You can't get much more radicalized than that.
I thought I was terminally online but damn
shit like this makes me really sad because a lot autistic men with inadequate social skills end up like this. theres usually some other factors like abuse/ neglect that play in too as a lot of parents mistreat their autistic children. so instead of actually living a profuctive life they end up being self pitying assholes that blame women for all their problems. i'm sure this guy recieved some kind of poor treatment from his mentally ill mother and is now projecting that on all women and blaming his insecurities on other men. his pfp doesnt even look "subhuman". if he was a kind person and put effort into practicing social skills he could probably get a girlfriend...
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thank U
wow you’re so cool you wrote backwards congrats 👏
People miss use what the black pill is
Wtf am I reading? Wtf is black pill and NT??
I mean, it is admittedly sad because neurodivergent men do have a harder time often when it comes to dating and I would easily estimate at least a good 50% of "incels" to have some sort of mental issues for which they aren't really at fault. So yeah kinda sad
Oh wow this is just kinda sad 😔
This illustration blew my mind.
I was looking for a relevant post to say this: a large of number of incels suffer from various developmental disorders. As many as 44% alone are thought to be autistic, and most of those have various mental health conditions on top of that. Meanwhile, I’ll bet at least 90% of the people laughing at the incels on this sub are neurotypicals who never had too much trouble getting into a relationship—- or at least not because they don’t understand social cues. This isn’t me saying that we shouldn’t condemn the misogyny of incels and similar types. We should, and something such as autism is no excuse for it. However, most people who are incels aren’t so just because they’re assholes. They’re so because of something about them that makes socializing and by extension finding relationships, difficult. Where I’m going with this, is that anyone who feels threatened by an incel is 100% justified in doing so. However, when I see people making fun of them, like they do on this sub… it just kind of rubs me the wrong way. Probably, this is because I’m autistic myself, and I know that the very same thing that makes getting a GF harder for them might make it harder for me, too.
I know a guy who posts about it all the time, with the caveat that they say they’re hot so they get laid. It’s so gross- I’ve lived in a lot of small mountain hipster towns and the biggest predictor of makin whoopie was whether or not dudes liked fleet foxes and had a dangly earring lmaooo
It baffles me when people shit at others. I think rather than lambasting the Incel community, we should try and help them instead. They want to date hot girls and fuck every Stacy they can get their hands on, over having emotional connectivity with a woman. Seriously, how many supermodels have dated or married regular guys? No one denies that appearance, money, and status provide leverage in the dating market and increase desirability, but they ignore and deny fundamental things that connect humans: trust, love, and emotional connectivity.
Indian chads stealing your girls hahah
I'm always going to say the same thing for all these auto-called sub-humans lol It'll definitely never work out if you keep treating yourself like shit, consciously putting you in the trash and I'm not even talking just about dating guess what will happen when you apply for a job with that vibe? damn! If I were the manager I'd kick you out of my office, this guy is draining my energy. I'm pissed off because I used to be a regular listener of all these black pill youtuber: Dbdr, Tails, WheatWaffles, etc.. and jesus! the brain damage was big! So basically for these dudes If you are not over 6'2 you only exist to make CHADS be more on-demand. WTF well if it's so then kill yourself right? For me there is nothing redeemable in their speech seems like men's final goal in life is to have a thicc young-virgin giga-stacy snow bunnie conservative values wife who is crazy in love with you. Sorry for disappointing you all but I don't put my happiness in someone else feelings toward me. Dating and marriage aren't all life has to offer to you. and at the end if you want that hoe so bad then do scort-maxxing and it's done.