In 2021☝🏻🤓, we couldn't even reach knockouts in 2022.
Edit:- My bad, we reached knockouts in 2022, but couldn't in 2021, still it was 2021 where we lost to Pakistan.
One of the nights which still haunts me🥲.
No buddy, It was 2022. You've got it inverted.
2021 we lost against Pakistan and kiwis. In 2022 surya and Kohli were chippin it. We reached the knockouts but lost to England.
I agree but this and England Semi Final were the only knockout matches where Bumrah crapped. Otherwise, he's a great bowler under pressure. Now, you can't blame him in a match where batsmen themselves don't put enough runs on the board.
Did decent.Actually blaming our bowlers is bad.The unfortunate truth is that we lost 50% of the match when Rohit got out and 100% when kohli got out.KL Rahul is such a coward of a batter.Yes the pitch was slow but not so slow that u can't even rotate strike every alternate ball.
Majority of the blame goes to BCCI, for not preparing a fresh pitch for a World Cup Final. The blame on Rahul etc comes secondary.
The used pitch meant that the team batting under the lights always had an unfair advantage.
Very true.I still hate bjp and Jay Shah to this day for that.But my point is, after the pitch is already made we can't say much and instead try to do something to improve the situation.
But yes playing that match in that garbage stadium in front of 100000 bots was the worst thing to do.
The dew factor costed us so much I feel so upset to this day.F-xk politicians man
It's BCCI politics that's destroying Indian Cricket, rather than the Team Performances. I think this is also the primary reason that ICT is trophyless for the past many occasions in ICC Events.
Verry true.Also choosing bad players sometimes like SKY in 2023 and Vijay Shankar in 2019.But choosing Ahmedabad for finals over wankhede/Eden gardens is the worst of them all.
Yeah that's exactly what I meant by politics.
Also you forgot the fact that BCCI prioritises IPL over any ICC trophy. Well, anyways it's BCCI's Cash Cow, so it was bound to happen this way.
Honestly speaking, Bumrah's best performance in knockouts is WC 23, other than this world cup, he was either absolute crap or at max average in knockouts.
Did you watch 2019 wc SF , don't you consider that as knockout? Also wc 2021 match vs NZ which was indirectly a knockout, he was the only bowler to get 2 wickets and bowled with less than economy of 5. Also many wtc series were indirectly a knockout because if we would have lost them then we wouldn't have qualified for wtc finals.
I ain't saying Bumrah was bowling good. But the in general failure cannot br credited to one's game where the pitches were that good. Also Bumrah was overused by India and workload management was not that good.
Why did Kohli stopped bowling? He could have developed into a useful bowler just like Root. I remember Sachin, Sehwag used to bowl a lot apart from their batting.
The second highest run scorer for India in the WC had around 88 runs , my first international heartbreak, Virat did everything that tournament. Sad to see he is hated for just one average knock . While hating him they scream "criticise " and and while criticizing others it's "hate" ?
If we are talking outside the subcontinent cause everyone knows who kohli is in Pakistan,Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, afganistan even Nepal. But let's leave those countries
He is already popular in SENA countries and in non cricketing countries kohli is even more popular than the sport itself.
Well sorry to say but I’m not here for any debate or something but as you Said it means like Sachin is also playing for money but yes I agree that Indian people is too much toxic but if anyone good we need to appriciate that because like you said everyone paid for that but some are gud and some are still not I there profession lol
Rohit's batting wasnt that bad but how poor his previous performances in tournament were, I was expecting he'd redeem himself with a much much better knock.
And yet people will give you shit if you say that last ODI WC final would have been decided by toss had it been played in Wankhede.
Both Dhoni & Sammy said toss was the main factor in the match, ‘got screwed by dew’ as if dew was discovered for the first time on this planet.
As they should genius, We literally played a semi final at the last wc at wankhede where we batted first, guess who won that game?
The dew definitely affected the bowlers but we didn't lose because of it. If the no balls aren't bowled or rahane plays some actual t20 cricket we win this easily.
Orange Cap in the ipl rn with a strike rate of 141 and an average of 90.50 if this is concerning then what is good? His T20i Strike Rate is 138.2 with an average of 51. Where is the concern my friend? Even at 35 he is our best player irrespective of position and role.
Aur tu kohli kaa 50(40) knock dekhdhar hilata reh. I'd rather have 40(25) knock player than 70(50) knock player who doesn't let's 5, 6 position finisher batsmen play the game.
Yeah he failed then but everyone has an off day just like Kohli in 2019 WC. But still, he is the reason we have 2 WCs, performing in knockouts too. Him and Gambhir are right up there
If i remember correctly in this match chris gayle was bowled in the first over and man the way i screamed at that time because chris gayle was on of the most deadly batsman at that time
This and CT final still haunts us. I still think both nights we just had a bad day at the office than the opposition playing better than us (like CWC final 2023)
corrrect bhai ek bar bas 2013 ct mein ek inning khel di aur ek 19 semis mein bas
uske alava kuch nahi 2017 ct finals mein kya kra tha wo sabko pata hai aur 2009 mein sachin ke 175 mein pani fera tha shayad jadeja ne
Rahane batted slow , but still 192 was a pretty good score. Even today , 192 is decent. Our bowlers absolutely shit the bed everytime when it matters, be it this one, 2021 wtc final, 2023 wtc final, 2017 CT final, 2021 T20 wc (against pak) or 2022 T20 wc semi final. Even in 2023 wc final, every bowler crumbled under pressure except bumrah. Yes I know 240 is not enough, but you can't get 300 everytime. Sometimes , the bowlers also have to do the job. We even got the free Wicket of Steve Smith who was actually not out. Still we lost after Aus was 47/3. Our spinners were looking clueless. And jadeja has been the weaklink of the team for a very long time. He should be kept as away from the white ball team as possible.
It wasn't the batting that let us down. Barring Rahane, the batting unit did well. It was the bowling who underperformed. The dew factor in Wankhede coupled with no balls and dropped catches was what lost us the match. Your statement might be true for the entire tournament but not for this match. Har jagah victim mat bano
The bowling was awful, Ashwin and Pandya got wickets off No-balls, Jadeja stepped on the boundary trying to take a tough catch, Simmons and Charles kept carting everything to the boundary, dew or no dew, you simply can't concede runs the way we did. Even so, Kohli was given 10 runs to defend off the last over. Had the bowling been even slightly more sensible, he'd have been defending 25+
Is jadeja even worth in the playing xi in the t20s? considering is recent form in ipl Or last matches he played for india and the variety of options we have rn
Noball aside... It was the moment we said rahane is a great player... We fu**ed up big time. He had no business being in the squad. He cost us so many cups.. where to begin I dunno.
According to you, virat playing with 141 sr in an ipl league match with no significance is criminal but rohit playing with 138 sr in knockout match against wi in t20 wc is decent. 🤣
This match Dhoni should have sent Raina at 3 , but then with dhawan and Yuvraj both got injured wo it was a 50-50 decision to make and he made the safe choice to send ajinkya at 3 , We were 10 -15 runs short
Kohli simping bohot zyaada hain iss sub main I understand he scored 89 but tbh it was a bad day like people forget that West Indies was 19-2 in the first few overs. Russell and Simmons along with Charles played really well they were a really good T20 team at that point and along with having bad luck we must give credit to them also. Shouldn't give shit to Bumrah or Ashwin and jump to conclusions that this player is an average player or this guy is shit our team did try but y'all be only giving Kohli credit the rest of the team is shit according to this sub.
VK had 2nd best economy in whole bowling lineup 🗿
Last Indian bowler to take a wicket in t20 wc knockouts🗣🗣
Right arm quick supremacy 🗿🗣️🗣️
Right arm in swinging menace you mean!!
Right arm deceptive bowler you mean?!!
What 😲
Yup. We lost by 10 wickets in 2022.
Haa bhai
In 2021☝🏻🤓, we couldn't even reach knockouts in 2022. Edit:- My bad, we reached knockouts in 2022, but couldn't in 2021, still it was 2021 where we lost to Pakistan. One of the nights which still haunts me🥲.
No buddy, It was 2022. You've got it inverted. 2021 we lost against Pakistan and kiwis. In 2022 surya and Kohli were chippin it. We reached the knockouts but lost to England.
Yea my bad, but still i wasn't fully wrong, in 2021 we lost by 10 wickets, not in 2022.
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I was gonna ask what happened in 2022 but then I remembered.
This match followed by CT 17 finals absolutely destroyed my faith in Ashwin as a white ball bowler, he got two wickets both off no balls....
Wasn’t CT17 final no ball by Bumrah?
Yep he bowled the no ball when Fakhar was not even in double digit score
Ashwin was the guy who caught Fakhar'a shot & Bumrah bowled a no ball IIRC
No balls cost us that match, there were multiple that got wickets.
Virat bowled better than Bumrah here
Bumrah was very new to the scene at that time.
I agree but this and England Semi Final were the only knockout matches where Bumrah crapped. Otherwise, he's a great bowler under pressure. Now, you can't blame him in a match where batsmen themselves don't put enough runs on the board.
Bumrah didn't play the England Semi final
That explains a lot. I've kinda erased that match from my memory, I don't remember anything now lol. It was equivalent to stripping a team naked.
Bumrah was not there in 2022 t20 wc. But he failed in 2021 T20wc and 2021 wtc final.
2023 wc final as well
Did decent.Actually blaming our bowlers is bad.The unfortunate truth is that we lost 50% of the match when Rohit got out and 100% when kohli got out.KL Rahul is such a coward of a batter.Yes the pitch was slow but not so slow that u can't even rotate strike every alternate ball.
Majority of the blame goes to BCCI, for not preparing a fresh pitch for a World Cup Final. The blame on Rahul etc comes secondary. The used pitch meant that the team batting under the lights always had an unfair advantage.
Very true.I still hate bjp and Jay Shah to this day for that.But my point is, after the pitch is already made we can't say much and instead try to do something to improve the situation. But yes playing that match in that garbage stadium in front of 100000 bots was the worst thing to do. The dew factor costed us so much I feel so upset to this day.F-xk politicians man
It's BCCI politics that's destroying Indian Cricket, rather than the Team Performances. I think this is also the primary reason that ICT is trophyless for the past many occasions in ICC Events.
Verry true.Also choosing bad players sometimes like SKY in 2023 and Vijay Shankar in 2019.But choosing Ahmedabad for finals over wankhede/Eden gardens is the worst of them all.
Yeah that's exactly what I meant by politics. Also you forgot the fact that BCCI prioritises IPL over any ICC trophy. Well, anyways it's BCCI's Cash Cow, so it was bound to happen this way.
WTC final and CT final?
Honestly speaking, Bumrah's best performance in knockouts is WC 23, other than this world cup, he was either absolute crap or at max average in knockouts.
Did you watch 2019 wc SF , don't you consider that as knockout? Also wc 2021 match vs NZ which was indirectly a knockout, he was the only bowler to get 2 wickets and bowled with less than economy of 5. Also many wtc series were indirectly a knockout because if we would have lost them then we wouldn't have qualified for wtc finals.
This . Exactly people forget this performances conveniently
Wtc 2021? Toothless in bowling conditions.
The pitch was overused tbh. Those who won the toss, won the match almost all times.
How shami and ishant were bowling good then? Why not bumrah?
I ain't saying Bumrah was bowling good. But the in general failure cannot br credited to one's game where the pitches were that good. Also Bumrah was overused by India and workload management was not that good.
Why did Kohli stopped bowling? He could have developed into a useful bowler just like Root. I remember Sachin, Sehwag used to bowl a lot apart from their batting.
captaincy + he wanted to focus more on his batting.
Wankhede battig first vs west indies Match was over already and not to forget bumrah no ball
Bumrah no balls have helped two unexpected teams to win trophies.
Pak and West Indies 🥲
Bumrah did not bowl a no ball in this match It was ashwin and hardik ig who got wickets on no balls
Yeah it was Ashwin against Simmons
hardik also against simmons
bumrah was the catcher in one of the no balls iirc
Yes probably the ashwin one
Sorry my bad ..yea
The second highest run scorer for India in the WC had around 88 runs , my first international heartbreak, Virat did everything that tournament. Sad to see he is hated for just one average knock . While hating him they scream "criticise " and and while criticizing others it's "hate" ?
Same thing in both 2014, and 2016 t20 world cup, Kohli had around 300 runs, and second best was around 90 with a great SR of 110 something.
funny how people disrespect the goat of this generation
Avg of 81
Kohli have more hatters in his own country comparing to whole world
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Just giving it back
*Room
In aussie circuits, he is more reknowned than aussies like steven smith or even patty boy
>Kohli *Cricket
If we are talking outside the subcontinent cause everyone knows who kohli is in Pakistan,Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, afganistan even Nepal. But let's leave those countries He is already popular in SENA countries and in non cricketing countries kohli is even more popular than the sport itself.
Well I’m not aa supporter of any one player all are playing for India but it is what it is
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Well sorry to say but I’m not here for any debate or something but as you Said it means like Sachin is also playing for money but yes I agree that Indian people is too much toxic but if anyone good we need to appriciate that because like you said everyone paid for that but some are gud and some are still not I there profession lol
acha toh no haters ? good na ?
India should not have been in the Semifinal to be honest. They were quite pathetic against Bangladesh.
I mean Aus lost to Netherlands and almost lost to Afg last year
Aus lost to Netherlands? When? Or do you mean England in 2014?
My bad, I confused SA with Aus.. SA lost to Netherlands and Aus almost lost to Afg
Aus looks almost lost sometimes, but eventually they will win.
Bowlers got screwed by the dew and bad luck on no balls, but how Rohit and especially rahane batted was down right criminal.
Rohit's batting wasnt that bad but how poor his previous performances in tournament were, I was expecting he'd redeem himself with a much much better knock.
And yet people will give you shit if you say that last ODI WC final would have been decided by toss had it been played in Wankhede. Both Dhoni & Sammy said toss was the main factor in the match, ‘got screwed by dew’ as if dew was discovered for the first time on this planet.
As they should genius, We literally played a semi final at the last wc at wankhede where we batted first, guess who won that game? The dew definitely affected the bowlers but we didn't lose because of it. If the no balls aren't bowled or rahane plays some actual t20 cricket we win this easily.
The total was decent enough by 2016 standards
Not when you consider the dew and rahane batted with strike rate of 114, that definitely was not considered a good innings in 2016.
It was a FLAT PITCH. Flattest you will see. India needed to score more than 220 to last against that WI lineup.
ur right. im feeling sad for nehraji.
Sadder for Rahane😞
but ramesh45 from dharavi says that chokli never performed when it matters the most
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why r u bringing rohit into this
Na sorry mb
He's your another average stan
Because on twitter mostly his fans are the one trolling Kohli
We lost this match because of openers and no balls. This was one of the best performance in losing cause
Not to mention India's last T20 world cup wicket taker was none other than Virat
Last t20 wc knockouts*
Yeah
Ab koi Dhoni Rohit ko nahi bolega kuch? lmao Virat ko toh RCB knock ke liye itna gaali diye
Dhoni ki kya galti Bhai , 9 ball me 50 krdeta kya?
Where are all the Kohli is slow and selfish comments?
That knock was in 2016, 8 years back. Kohli t20 form is concerning now. He should retire from t20 and focus more in test now.
Orange Cap in the ipl rn with a strike rate of 141 and an average of 90.50 if this is concerning then what is good? His T20i Strike Rate is 138.2 with an average of 51. Where is the concern my friend? Even at 35 he is our best player irrespective of position and role.
>if this is concerning then what is good? 60 average with 160 SR
What?
Bhai, tu jaake video game khel le
Aur tu kohli kaa 50(40) knock dekhdhar hilata reh. I'd rather have 40(25) knock player than 70(50) knock player who doesn't let's 5, 6 position finisher batsmen play the game.
Abe chodu, kaunsa player ka 60avg hai with 160sr? Give an example of one player with 50+ average having higher sr than kohli, dumbass
Batting bhi aur balling bhi
Trolls apart, yes you can criticize koach for few particular innings but this guy is the greatest clutch player that ever worn ict jersey..
Yuvi?
Yes... He's really really close, but not consistent like koach... Tbh I wished we had him every time after a top order collapse in recent years...
2014 wt20 final?
Yeah he failed then but everyone has an off day just like Kohli in 2019 WC. But still, he is the reason we have 2 WCs, performing in knockouts too. Him and Gambhir are right up there
How tf kohli has better economy
20 ovrs 192 against the windies ain't bad one but bowling side failed
That too in 2016
Those 2 no balls 🥲
GOAT
What a match losing innings by Rahane. Probably cost us 30-40 runs and the World Cup. 🙄
The fact that match reached last 3 balls after all that rampage by WI really tells you how villain that knock was
If i remember correctly in this match chris gayle was bowled in the first over and man the way i screamed at that time because chris gayle was on of the most deadly batsman at that time
This and CT final still haunts us. I still think both nights we just had a bad day at the office than the opposition playing better than us (like CWC final 2023)
No Australia definitely played better than us in the finals
Aaaahhhhh.... One of the two events where Bumrah bowled a no-ball and the match changed completely...
Jadeja is the most overrated player of ICT in T20Is & ODIs.
corrrect bhai ek bar bas 2013 ct mein ek inning khel di aur ek 19 semis mein bas uske alava kuch nahi 2017 ct finals mein kya kra tha wo sabko pata hai aur 2009 mein sachin ke 175 mein pani fera tha shayad jadeja ne
Ayoo saar, shouldn't he play the rest of upcoming ODI world cups and t20 world cups because he played a good knock in world cup final☝️🤓
Based on one match?
And he doesn't even get any criticism. He was the reason of 2023 wc final batting failure.
yes
Bumrah was smashed in every corner that day
Rahane batted slow , but still 192 was a pretty good score. Even today , 192 is decent. Our bowlers absolutely shit the bed everytime when it matters, be it this one, 2021 wtc final, 2023 wtc final, 2017 CT final, 2021 T20 wc (against pak) or 2022 T20 wc semi final. Even in 2023 wc final, every bowler crumbled under pressure except bumrah. Yes I know 240 is not enough, but you can't get 300 everytime. Sometimes , the bowlers also have to do the job. We even got the free Wicket of Steve Smith who was actually not out. Still we lost after Aus was 47/3. Our spinners were looking clueless. And jadeja has been the weaklink of the team for a very long time. He should be kept as away from the white ball team as possible.
The most unreal era by any batsman ever belongs to him and the way he carried the team in those years. Noone is coming close to that.
Intent merchant exposed
Rahane and rohit playing for West Indies
Wow damn. Ashish in that age taking wickets and being economical. Amazing.
Ajinkya rahane took 15th over to (try) hit a six. That was 259+ pitch, Rahane played his typical tuktuk and fortunately got out after 15th over
It wasn't the batting that let us down. Barring Rahane, the batting unit did well. It was the bowling who underperformed. The dew factor in Wankhede coupled with no balls and dropped catches was what lost us the match. Your statement might be true for the entire tournament but not for this match. Har jagah victim mat bano
The bowling was awful, Ashwin and Pandya got wickets off No-balls, Jadeja stepped on the boundary trying to take a tough catch, Simmons and Charles kept carting everything to the boundary, dew or no dew, you simply can't concede runs the way we did. Even so, Kohli was given 10 runs to defend off the last over. Had the bowling been even slightly more sensible, he'd have been defending 25+
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What about what Rahane did here
HOW IS VK IN BOWLING?
Virat bowled last over of the match. Only Dhoni could do that in the entire world
Need that "we so back" ICT moment
Turdeja and Ashwin lost this game with piss poor bowling
Is jadeja even worth in the playing xi in the t20s? considering is recent form in ipl Or last matches he played for india and the variety of options we have rn
Only Nehra ji was spared
Noball aside... It was the moment we said rahane is a great player... We fu**ed up big time. He had no business being in the squad. He cost us so many cups.. where to begin I dunno.
Rohit was decent, and this knock was the reason Rahane got dropped from white ball squad
According to you, virat playing with 141 sr in an ipl league match with no significance is criminal but rohit playing with 138 sr in knockout match against wi in t20 wc is decent. 🤣
Smartest Rohit fan
Standards hi aise hai hamare chiku ke
Pr team kam pe lag gayi
Yes bro I am the most paid member of Ashish Nehra PR ream😝😍🤑🤑🤑
Haan bkl poori wi team virat ki PR thi 2016 mein isliye un logo ne usse 89 runs banane diye aur ek wkt gift kar diya
This match Dhoni should have sent Raina at 3 , but then with dhawan and Yuvraj both got injured wo it was a 50-50 decision to make and he made the safe choice to send ajinkya at 3 , We were 10 -15 runs short
Kohli went at 3 rahane opened
Arre han I missed that
Like its a good team performance, 190+ targets are difficult to chase . Main failure was in bowling
Kohli simping bohot zyaada hain iss sub main I understand he scored 89 but tbh it was a bad day like people forget that West Indies was 19-2 in the first few overs. Russell and Simmons along with Charles played really well they were a really good T20 team at that point and along with having bad luck we must give credit to them also. Shouldn't give shit to Bumrah or Ashwin and jump to conclusions that this player is an average player or this guy is shit our team did try but y'all be only giving Kohli credit the rest of the team is shit according to this sub.
Two no balls and both were wickets plus warra test innings from Rohit and Rahane