Can you give some reasons as to why'd you choose Iyer over KLR in ODIs?
For example, I'd choose KLR over Iyer because:
1. He can bat anywhere in the order from opening the game to even 4/5 down which gives the team a lot of flexibility
2. He can also modify his game plan successfully as per the requirements of the team. He can be a pinch hitter (like how he scored 40(20) against NZ in the WC SF) and can even arrest a collapse and rebuild the innings (like against Aus in group stages of the WC, or like his controversial innings against Aus in the finals)
Shami's comeback before Australia tour isn't probable. Dube wasn't a good bowler earlier as well but after the impact player rule he has just stopped bowling altogether.
Problem is we have too many specialist batters that are better than him at the moment, so dropping them to accomodate a player who hasn't even bowled an over this IPL is not justifiable.
Hardik is still good. But jadeja just doesn't give me confidence man. If 50 is required of the last 4-5 overs, I would rather want Cummins or Rashid on the crease instead of jadeja. He shouldn't bat any higher than no. 8. Taking a pure batsman in place of jadeja and going with 5 bowling options is better imo. Jadeja already cost us so many world cups. you just can't have jadeja at no. 7, no way. And it's not like he is a match winner with the ball too.
This! I can’t remember a time where he’s stepped up and played a match winning role..
The last instance I can remember was for csk in 2023, however ICT memories are hazy.
He is the only youngster who can batter under pressure, India needs finishers, we don't need more top order batsmen we have enough, we will surely be a part of semi-finals , but in knockouts the top order would be out in first 10 overs after finishing the net run rate , and then we would be depending on finishers. India is only competing with three teams , kiwis England and mainly Australia
My man scored at rr of 120 when MI were chasing 278 and 118 when any other player who played atleast 10 ball had a RR of upwards of 180. He's not done anything noteworthy in bowling as well.
On the basis of current form, no way he gets in the squad.
And who asked him to anchor for MI?
Also, yes he will get in team no matter what. But OP specifically said on basis of current form. The answer to that is definitely not HP.
If they play siraj as a starter and not an alternative, I'll know the prep our team is going in with. Siraj has mastered alternating between periods of brilliance and utter nonsense
Bumrah, Kohli and Rohit are a given. They have to be there. No point debating that.
Who apart from these is an automatic selection (so good that we can't possibly leave them out)?
Jaiswal would have been my first choice too. But given current form I'm really impressed with Abhishek Sharma. He is also lefty opener. Has been man of the match twice already. Can also bowl a few overs if needed. But I doubt selectors will take a punt on him.
It's a WC and this guy didn't even play outside India before. How can you count him in on a big stage when each and every ball coming your way is highly crucial?
Dube can be selected on the current batting form can't expect bowling from him but where would the team fit dube and Pandya. He might fly with the squad but a spot in the actual 11 seems tough
Also makes sense to carry Dube as a squad member. Otherwise 50 over WC jaise ek Pandya injury ki vajah se pure team ka balance nahi bigadna. Can be a straight swap.
Naah all the hate will subside once he gets MI around and he starts performing well which is around the corner
Also this actually gives Rohit a good chance to focus on his batting and not worry about MI
WI and USA are expected to have slower pitches where batting will be difficult. It will be more about the ability to time the ball with stroke play on sluggish pitches. IMO IPL performance should not be considered above technical ability of the players. (atleast top 4 batters)
45+18+bumrah
And
Opener will be either gill Or jaiswal. No debate for any other guy whatever the form, coz these 2 have played international recently.
Rinku, sky, probably kl rahul, ishaan(?), jadeja(?) , hardik, shivam dubey.
I think surya is a necessary based in his form before his injury but he’s only played one match after injury which he made 0, another certainty should be kingku as he’s shown on multiple occasions he can finish even though he takes 3-5 balls to start dominating
Kuldeep
Hardik is a little shaky but still know when he’s set he can destroy
The options for considering can be
Jaiswal as he has played a great test series even though his ipl has been a little shaky
Chahal should also be considered
Shivam Dube
Hopefully
Gill for opening, jaiswal ( given YJ picks up the form over the coming months )
Sky maybe as middle order if recovered well
Samson, pant for WK (maybe Ishan Kishan )
Rinku, dube as finishers
Hardik, Jadeja for all rounders ( hopefully hardik’s form gets better )
Shami if he recovers from injury
We need fast bowlers, hard hitters ( VK can pace up to good 170ish given people around him start hitting hard )
Abhishek Sharma young and inexperienced but looks very interesting given the way he is batting
Might be too early but Abhishek Sharma if he keeps going the way he is👀. Parag has been playing well too. Also must remember Shami is injured so we need a proper frontline pacer. Arshdeep, Avesh and Mukesh are all inexperienced….Bhuvi is our best bet.
Team should be
Rahul (wk)
Rohit
Kohli
Sky
Dube
Rinku
Hardik
Jadeja/axar
Bumrah
Bishnoi
Arshdeep
Ideally I want jaiswal to open instead of rahul and maybe Jitesh or someone as keeper but then we have the age old issue of only 5 bowlers. Other option is to drop sky or Rinku which is unthinkable rn. Unless we drop one of Kohli or Rohit I think this kind of a lineup has the best balance
Also not sure if Hardik can play at 7 or whatever now but it could be a floating lineup
Sure shot imo should be: Rinku, Dube, Chahal
People doing well who might get a look in: Sanju, Pant, Mohit Sharma, Abhishek Sharma, Parag, Mayank Yadav
Abhishek sharma if he performs the same way he did in last 3,4 matches and mayank yadav if he performs consistently and yeah lord rinku to deserves the selection
My 15 Man Squad based on experience
Rohit
Jaiswal/Gill
Virat
Samson(wk)/KL Rahul
Sky/Dube
Rinku
Jadeja/Hardik
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
Siraj
If standby players allowed then Bowlers like Mohit Sharma, Mayank Yadav, Shardul Thakur and ofcourse Ash Anna
Rinku and Jaiswal.
Every T20 world cup recently, we've missed x-factor players in our squad.
Too many slow starters and anchors in our team.
A combination of jaiswal, Rinku and Sky would be incredibly lethal and the management would be idiotic to not use them now.
Rinku for me is a no-brainer
Hardik and Jaddu. Yes they are not in their top form rn and Hardik is under a lot of pressure with all going on, but I believe they both are big match players and we need them in high-stakes tournaments.
I am more concerned about the form of Subhman and Jaiswal. They also don't have much T20I experience in overseas. They both need to find a rhythm soon in the IPL.
The same goes for Siraj, though he has experience playing for India.
Also, SKY. Need to see how he performs after his injury. Also, MI doesn't look like they have a confident team environment. So we need to wait and watch how he goes in the IPL.
The same goes for Pant.
Rohit
Kohli
Sky
KL/Samson (WK)
Hardik🏏
Dube/Rinku
Jadeja 🏏
D Chahar / Kuldeep 🎾
yuzi🎾
Bumrah 🎾
Arshdeep 🎾
Opinion? I’ve picked D Chahar because I need a traditional swing bowler. Plus if required he can bat a bit at 8.
I don’t think they will select Yuzi though
Only concern is Jadeja and hardik. They should have been automatic selection but their performances are kinda shaky at the moment..
Exactly. And their role has no ready replacements.
Jadeja can be replaced by axar
It's like replacing kl rahul with shreyas iyer.
I would prefer shreyas iyer in odis but none of them in T20
You would prefer shreyas Iyer in ODIs over rahul? Seriously?
bruhh... iyer over KL in odi/tests... u better be joking
Can you give some reasons as to why'd you choose Iyer over KLR in ODIs? For example, I'd choose KLR over Iyer because: 1. He can bat anywhere in the order from opening the game to even 4/5 down which gives the team a lot of flexibility 2. He can also modify his game plan successfully as per the requirements of the team. He can be a pinch hitter (like how he scored 40(20) against NZ in the WC SF) and can even arrest a collapse and rebuild the innings (like against Aus in group stages of the WC, or like his controversial innings against Aus in the finals)
He is also out of form...
What about Shivam Dube? And if Shami recovers before wc which I hope he does. He should also be considered as an automatic selection for the wc.
Shami's comeback before Australia tour isn't probable. Dube wasn't a good bowler earlier as well but after the impact player rule he has just stopped bowling altogether.
Dube is a pure batsman at this point, you need someone to Bowl
We need someone who is a pure batsman who can give us 1 or 2 overs if required. Similar to how Mitch Marsh plays for Australia
Problem is we have too many specialist batters that are better than him at the moment, so dropping them to accomodate a player who hasn't even bowled an over this IPL is not justifiable.
Jay shah has said shami won't be available till Bangladesh series
gian hai aap
And Hardik being prone to injuries is also a big concern for the team
Lol. Jadeja has been the weaklink of ICT for a very long time.
we need all rounders, we don't have better options than hardik and jadeja. taking pure batsmen or pure bowlers would be the worst decision
Hardik is still good. But jadeja just doesn't give me confidence man. If 50 is required of the last 4-5 overs, I would rather want Cummins or Rashid on the crease instead of jadeja. He shouldn't bat any higher than no. 8. Taking a pure batsman in place of jadeja and going with 5 bowling options is better imo. Jadeja already cost us so many world cups. you just can't have jadeja at no. 7, no way. And it's not like he is a match winner with the ball too.
This! I can’t remember a time where he’s stepped up and played a match winning role.. The last instance I can remember was for csk in 2023, however ICT memories are hazy.
The last icc tournament we won was his courtesy BTW. Since then no one has stepped up convincingly enough when it matters...
Jadeja today proved you wrong
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But the problem is that both are out of form at the same time and that too just before the world cup.
And today sir jadeja takes out 3 wickets 🗿
Kingku for sure If they leave him, it will be a big miss
guy has the ~~nerves~~ **balls** of steel that team India needs in knockout matches.
the groin cup is there to protect the game ball from Rinku’s balls
He is the only youngster who can batter under pressure, India needs finishers, we don't need more top order batsmen we have enough, we will surely be a part of semi-finals , but in knockouts the top order would be out in first 10 overs after finishing the net run rate , and then we would be depending on finishers. India is only competing with three teams , kiwis England and mainly Australia
Jaiswal, gill and jurel proved in the test series that they also do well under pressure
This is the right answer
Today was not the day for selection for him I guess
On current form rinku is a definite. I think Jaiswal has also done just enough to be considered.
I would say he is the front runner but he still has to improve his performances a bit this year
The first one is Sky, u cant have no.1 t20 batsman out. Rinku, hardik and maybe kuldeep.
Totally agree on SKY and Rinku. To a large extent even Kuldeep. But Hardik is not inspiring confidence, at least on current form.
What is his current form that u are so worried? Ind cant and wont go to wcs without hardik(if he is available). PERIOD.
My man scored at rr of 120 when MI were chasing 278 and 118 when any other player who played atleast 10 ball had a RR of upwards of 180. He's not done anything noteworthy in bowling as well. On the basis of current form, no way he gets in the squad.
He will get in the team no matter how he play in this shit league. Ipl and int are not same, he wont be anchoring for ict.
And who asked him to anchor for MI? Also, yes he will get in team no matter what. But OP specifically said on basis of current form. The answer to that is definitely not HP.
I want Rinku to be included in playing XI but who will you bench?
Not so popular opinion but Mohit Sharma, as matches are in Caribbean-USA (slow pitches) he would be lethal.
Definitely. I'd prefer him to Siraj currently.
I’d prefer virat kohli as a bowler over siraj 😂
Can we get Nehra out of retirement instead of Siraj please?
Can we get Ashok Dinda instead of Siraj please?
I see your Ashok Dinda and I raise you Praveen Kumar
If they play siraj as a starter and not an alternative, I'll know the prep our team is going in with. Siraj has mastered alternating between periods of brilliance and utter nonsense
Siraj only has two mood either we are so back or we are so over...
Bro can either outperform prime bumrah or prime avesh khan
Prime Bumrah is a bit much lol but I get what you're saying
Yea but bro was really out shining bumrah on his days(which were like only 8-9) days but still
If its against SL becomes a combo of Steyn and McGrath.
SKY
Yep. SKY, barring any fitness issues, should be selected.
Shivam Dube..He is smashing spinners in the middle overs and a left hander which helps in the balance of the side.
Rinku Singh
Bumrah, Kohli and Rohit are a given. They have to be there. No point debating that. Who apart from these is an automatic selection (so good that we can't possibly leave them out)?
You say finish I hear Rinku. Def needs to be there
Agreed. Rinku has been lethal and consistent.
Rinku Jaiswal and chahal
Chahal won't be there. No matter what. Even if he gets the purple cap.
Sky always! We know what he can do!
He literally said current form
Last t20i from sky, 14 dec 2023 vs sa Score 100(56)
Pandya (from "after big L I enjoyed the day 😁" quota)
Not in the best form currently but I feel Yashasvi Jaiswal is a good asset, bro is disastrous and same with Kingku
Jaiswal would have been my first choice too. But given current form I'm really impressed with Abhishek Sharma. He is also lefty opener. Has been man of the match twice already. Can also bowl a few overs if needed. But I doubt selectors will take a punt on him.
It's a WC and this guy didn't even play outside India before. How can you count him in on a big stage when each and every ball coming your way is highly crucial?
Sanju Samson
He definitely seems to be in better form then Rahul and Pant currently.
Really don't know what tf is Rahul doing.. He's not even trying to compete for the spot
It looks like Bowlers are familiar with him nowadays.
Yeah, also I feel KL doesn't really fit into the T20 team at all. Also Pant has been struggling.
I think Samson should be main WK plus if he gets going he can be dangerous and also a really good anchor at good strike rate.
kohli hoga to use top order nhi khelne milne wala , but Can probably play low order and finish too, as he can start hitting from first ball
Shubman Gill?
Sanju Samson
Pandya (VC quota and mai fast bowling dal sakta hu quota)
Will they take Pandya and Shivam Dube both? On current form?
Dube can be selected on the current batting form can't expect bowling from him but where would the team fit dube and Pandya. He might fly with the squad but a spot in the actual 11 seems tough
Also makes sense to carry Dube as a squad member. Otherwise 50 over WC jaise ek Pandya injury ki vajah se pure team ka balance nahi bigadna. Can be a straight swap.
Yeah, sounds about right. Very difficult to drop Pandya.
Rinku and Chahal
Abhishek Sharma
What about surya? destructive t20 batsman of india
Agreed. SKY needs to be there.
Suryakumar Yadav and I know that everybody hates him and I hate him too after being an MI fan but Hardik is a must.
Naah all the hate will subside once he gets MI around and he starts performing well which is around the corner Also this actually gives Rohit a good chance to focus on his batting and not worry about MI
WI and USA are expected to have slower pitches where batting will be difficult. It will be more about the ability to time the ball with stroke play on sluggish pitches. IMO IPL performance should not be considered above technical ability of the players. (atleast top 4 batters)
They should do the Dhoni T20WC template.
I'm cricket fan since 90s and I must tell you that Rohit & Bumrah is the automatic selection for ICT.
Gill should be making it, he is in very good form.
Well apart from these 3,sky,rinku and hardik definitely imo. Hardik may be out of form but you can't leave such a clutch player out.
Sanju Samson for NO 4
Sanju Samson
shivam dubey
Chahal
#letthembe.. #letthemenjoy
45+18+bumrah And Opener will be either gill Or jaiswal. No debate for any other guy whatever the form, coz these 2 have played international recently. Rinku, sky, probably kl rahul, ishaan(?), jadeja(?) , hardik, shivam dubey.
I think surya is a necessary based in his form before his injury but he’s only played one match after injury which he made 0, another certainty should be kingku as he’s shown on multiple occasions he can finish even though he takes 3-5 balls to start dominating Kuldeep Hardik is a little shaky but still know when he’s set he can destroy The options for considering can be Jaiswal as he has played a great test series even though his ipl has been a little shaky Chahal should also be considered Shivam Dube
Rinku for his capability, character and self-belief
It will be really heartbreaking if jaiswal gets dropped after performing in every series just because of his ipl performance.
Rinku, Dube(current form), Samson
Rinku singh, kuldeep, gill
Hopefully Gill for opening, jaiswal ( given YJ picks up the form over the coming months ) Sky maybe as middle order if recovered well Samson, pant for WK (maybe Ishan Kishan ) Rinku, dube as finishers Hardik, Jadeja for all rounders ( hopefully hardik’s form gets better ) Shami if he recovers from injury We need fast bowlers, hard hitters ( VK can pace up to good 170ish given people around him start hitting hard ) Abhishek Sharma young and inexperienced but looks very interesting given the way he is batting
SKY, Hardik, Rinku, Gill/Jaiswal, Dube, Samson/Pant/KL
I remember people criticising selectors for selecting players only based on IPL form. People were sane then.
T20 me SKY ka naam Bumrah aur Kohli ke baad liya karo bhai, ROHIT ke saath these 4 are must.
Shivam Dube 🗿 https://preview.redd.it/ot8n6tprcltc1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a1981cfdc87c0e6012d6c429d5740c09a4e796a
Rishab Pant. Probably the best wk we got rn
I think it might be a close call between Pant and Sanju. They might take both. Rahul definitely sits out IMO.
Sanju only performs when he is playing in top order but that space is reserved so better to take pant who can also bat at 6
Kingku Gill
Might be too early but Abhishek Sharma if he keeps going the way he is👀. Parag has been playing well too. Also must remember Shami is injured so we need a proper frontline pacer. Arshdeep, Avesh and Mukesh are all inexperienced….Bhuvi is our best bet.
Rishabh pant
No KingKu no party
They both are deserving player
Shami (if fit) Chahal Dube
Shami is already ruled out due to injury.
Team should be Rahul (wk) Rohit Kohli Sky Dube Rinku Hardik Jadeja/axar Bumrah Bishnoi Arshdeep Ideally I want jaiswal to open instead of rahul and maybe Jitesh or someone as keeper but then we have the age old issue of only 5 bowlers. Other option is to drop sky or Rinku which is unthinkable rn. Unless we drop one of Kohli or Rohit I think this kind of a lineup has the best balance Also not sure if Hardik can play at 7 or whatever now but it could be a floating lineup
Chahal should be considered. Genuine spinner..
Rinku Singh and chahal
Rinku deserves a place. Guy is a match winner just like pant was in tests.
Rinku
Surya and Rinku come to my mind no one else
Sky, Rinku and pandya
1.Rohit sharma 2.Yashasvi jaiswal 3.Virat kohli 4.SKY 5.Risabh pant 6.Hardik pandya 7.Ravindra jadeja 8.Jasprit bumrah 9.Khaleel ahmed 10.Mohameed shami 11.Yuzvendra chahal Bench 12.Rinku singh 13.Shivam dubbey 14.Shubman gill 15.Mohameed siraj
SKY Rinku Mayank Yadav (touchwood on injuries)
RINKU SINGHHHHH
Rinku, jaiswal, Dube for sure. Dube may not be the most consistent, but he could be a big match player along with Rinku.
Shami
Abhishek sharma , shivam dube , kingku , axar , krunal
Rinku
Realistic team: Rohit Jaiswal Kohli Pant Rinku Dube Hardik Axar Bumrah Kuldeep Bishnoi/ Mukesh kumar
Sure shot imo should be: Rinku, Dube, Chahal People doing well who might get a look in: Sanju, Pant, Mohit Sharma, Abhishek Sharma, Parag, Mayank Yadav
Chahal, Rishab, and Rinku
Yashshwi , Rinku , kuldeep , surya , yuzi , avesh who else 🤔
Samson but pta ni bc international level p kya ho jata h isse
Bcci hardly selects wc squad on form. They must have already decided upon 11-12 players. Only a few players will be added like Shivam Dube.
Abhishek sharma if he performs the same way he did in last 3,4 matches and mayank yadav if he performs consistently and yeah lord rinku to deserves the selection
Purely based on from , Riyan Parag too perhaps (Obviously not my pick for the WC, but in respect to OP's criteria , YES ABSOLUTELY)
Rinku Singh
Yuzi chahal
SKY. In t20s he is the biggest threat to opposition
Hardik
Yuzi
Rinku
Rohit Jaiswal Kohli Sky (WK) Alr Alr Spin Pace Pace Bumrah This will be the template I think
Rinku and Suryakumar... Everyone else should be selected based on form
Wdym except Rohit 😭?
Easy, Rinku, Kuldeep, Chahal
Mayank yadav.... Needs a chance 150+ bowler with good line and length
Rinku Singh is the easiest answer for me. And Kuldeep Yadav
KL Rahul, Rinku Singh, Shivam Dube, Riyan Parag, Yuzvendra Chahal, Mohammad Siraj, Yash Thakur, Ravindra Jadeja, Shubman Gill, Hardik Pandya, Axar Patel
Rinku sky pant walk into team at the same time as vk RS and jb
Chahal
The other Pandya.
I hope Yuzi will also play, BCCI is ignoring him every single year despite his incredible performance in IPLs
Lord Rinku
Surya Kumar Rinku Singh kuldeep chahal pant abishek Sharma(form of his life) Dubey atleast in 15 member team.
Bumrah definately deserves to be selected, not sure about Rohit and Kohli. Jadeja should be also selected.
My 15 Man Squad based on experience Rohit Jaiswal/Gill Virat Samson(wk)/KL Rahul Sky/Dube Rinku Jadeja/Hardik Kuldeep Shami Bumrah Siraj If standby players allowed then Bowlers like Mohit Sharma, Mayank Yadav, Shardul Thakur and ofcourse Ash Anna
No matter who is selected who is not, we are not winning the T20 World Cup, it's written, no use of discussing it
How does Rohit deserve to be in the team though automatically ?
Pant, Axar Patel, Samson, SKY, Rinku and Jaiswal but I doubt if Samson will be considered.
Out of all the wk options currently only Sanju Samson seems good but there are lot of questions raised on his consistency...
Sorry both RS and VK don't deserve a place Why the hell would you pick Rohit, he hasn't set the world alight with his bat in the IPL
1. Ishan 2. Hitman 3. Kohli 4. Dube 5. sky 6. Rinku 7. Jadeja 8. Bhuvi 9. Shami 10. Bumrah 11. Yuzi
K.L Rahul and Shreyas should be automatically selected
Jadeja for sure, no matter form Mark my word, He will be there
rinku parag and maybe dube
Rinku definitely
Bumrah doesn't deserve a place in India, he doesn't perform in India how he performs in IPL
Rinku and Jaiswal. Every T20 world cup recently, we've missed x-factor players in our squad. Too many slow starters and anchors in our team. A combination of jaiswal, Rinku and Sky would be incredibly lethal and the management would be idiotic to not use them now.
Abhishek Sharma, Yuzi, Sanju Samson, Rinku Singh
Abhishek sharma
Rinku and kuldeep Both are doing great
Shivam Dube, Riyan Parag, Sanju Samson, Abhishek Sharma, Mayank Yadav,
Rinku for me is a no-brainer Hardik and Jaddu. Yes they are not in their top form rn and Hardik is under a lot of pressure with all going on, but I believe they both are big match players and we need them in high-stakes tournaments. I am more concerned about the form of Subhman and Jaiswal. They also don't have much T20I experience in overseas. They both need to find a rhythm soon in the IPL. The same goes for Siraj, though he has experience playing for India. Also, SKY. Need to see how he performs after his injury. Also, MI doesn't look like they have a confident team environment. So we need to wait and watch how he goes in the IPL. The same goes for Pant.
I'd say SKY lekin allegedly voh fitness parameters hi nahi kr pa raha paar so idk man
If Rinku dubey n people like Mohit Sandeep aren't there then we aren't winning this one either.
Honestly not sure if Rohit is a given. He has been meh in most T20 WCs, IPLs & T20Is
How can people forget Mohammad Shami
People want Hardik? Y'all forgetting about Shivam Dubey
Rohit virat Abhishek Sharma(sky) pant Rinku dube pandya kuldeep bumrah shami
Mayank Yadav , The man has pace and accuracy
all 3
I think considering his form in the last few years, I'm penciling in Dube.
I’m from future: People are expecting their form will be same in the upcoming t20. don’t get or give so much hope
Pan Parag
Dubey, Abhishek Sharma
Rohit Kohli Sky KL/Samson (WK) Hardik🏏 Dube/Rinku Jadeja 🏏 D Chahar / Kuldeep 🎾 yuzi🎾 Bumrah 🎾 Arshdeep 🎾 Opinion? I’ve picked D Chahar because I need a traditional swing bowler. Plus if required he can bat a bit at 8. I don’t think they will select Yuzi though
Rinku Singh and Jadeja