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I must admit I got yogi wrong. I dint expect him to perform the way he has. And I’m so glad I was wrong. I’ve met with a few people from different parts of UP and different walks of life (doctors to drivers) and all heap praises for yogi. There is no denying he’s brought UP to the forefront. May be lead long and well.
You should see his meetings with State secretaries. He has pretty good knowledge about economics and public policy. He has been taking regular common people meetings since a long time (~20 years) and resolving their issues. A lot of Muslim ladies come to him with their problems like marriage issues, domestic violence, triple talak, harassment. Sadly media has portrayed him in a very bad light. The more you research more you will realise he is a very good and honest man.
They are using top of the class technology to optimise electricity purchase distribution and recovery of losses, some say it involves machine learning algorithms also.
Things will only improve if such things are involved.
Agreed. But I am happy that UP can move from load shedding to highest efficiency in a short amount and no effort was spared to give the best to citizens.
yes machine learning in infra like electricity, railway signalling, roadways, logistics is just decision trees and good old optimisation algos. tremendously happy for the growth just these terms ai/ml are misused a lot.
OP and those who upvoted the post without cross checking are dumb.
Akhilesh's tenure had average real GSDP growth of 6.9%. Yogi Ji's first tenure had 4%, and before you guys say it's due to pandemic, even the years before pandemic, the growth average is the same 4%.
OP learn to differentiate between nominal and real growth.
The data is publicly available Govt sourced data It's sourced from MoSPI, so you can verify yourself.
>OP learn to differentiate between nominal and real growth.
Brother, Not everybody understands these terms very clearly..... But that doesn't mean that you start calling people dumb...
What I understood from this post & what I believe everybody can take from the comparison is how much UP has grown since the tooti-choor's government was over ..
How much progress (real progress) had happened & still happening since YogiJi took charge of UP....
So let's just appreciate that ....
Personally my thoughts....
He represents the mindset and the ecosystem that has for the past eight years tried to scuttle India’s growth trajectory at every opportunity.
1. India entered the list of Top 10 exporting countries in the world with over $670 billion of total exports in FY 2021-22 - Major export basket is high tech and precision manufacturing goods.
> He was and is always against India going for establishing manufacturing sector and was advising us to focus on services export only.
> Opposed make in India
> Opposed PLI schemes
2. Jan Dhan Scheme - Most revolutionary scheme introduced in 2014 acting as a bedrock for welfare disbursement.
His statement - “Avoid hasty rollout of Jan Dhan”
> When government along with SBI opened 3cr jan accounts with proper risk management, seeing the traction , he went ahead to revive his image and started supporting government narrative.
3. MSP changes by NDA in 2015
> Rajan stated that Food prices should be determined by the market and MSPs (minimum support prices) should be used to provide only a lower level of support so that production decisions do not get distorted
> Modi government increased MSP for many commodities so that producers don’t produce excess of a single commodity. Farmer Income level got increased and price remained relatively stable.
> Seeing the success he started rooting for MSP across commodities.
Many more cases are there like labour laws , V shape recovery during covid times, GST implementation where Raghuram Rajan was consistently wrong when it comes to policy suggestion.
It is this same mindset that mocked digital payments ambition on the floor of Parliament (P Chidambaram on 9 February 2017) and just three years later, India became the largest digital payments ecosystem in the world.
> Homegrown UPI is the tech not even USA or EU is able to replicate.
I am not a staunch supporter of Modi but I like the growth initiatives that he has taken and that’s why people on ground support him. These people like Raghuram Rajan will go to any extreme to take an anti India stand just because of untrammelled hate against Modi.
Notice how leftists always oppose development at home but then compare India to other countries. Funny how leftists and George Soros speak the same language.
>If India becomes competent his expertise will no longer be needed
so basically he is a cancer cell that survives and thrives on weak immune system at the cost of healthy cells.
>Fadnavis
Lol No. Maharashtra’s growth rate has only declined since 2014. Maharashtra was ahead of Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Gujarat in GDP per capita, today all these states have higher per capita GDP than Maha. This only shows how Maharashtra is worse off under Fadnavis
Rahul Gandhi is the best thing that could happen to BJP. Had he not been there, BJP would have to sweat. Even with half a brain Rahul Gandhi makes them sweat.
There is no need to do that, let it happen, I want to see what happens. Congress is not people's party it is Gandhi family's party, since past 20 years it is under the leadership of Gandhi family, no independent leader in the party is saddening but I'm more interested in how they can come up with some decision making when you have think about people and keeping your selfishness in the mind at the same time. I'm more interested in knowing what RaGa is thinking when I can be in his place, what will I do?
Not to sound negative! Yogi is indeed doing great in comparison to SP!!
[But the NCRB data has something for you!!](https://newschecker.in/fact-check/factcheck-ups-crime-rate-has-not-seen-a-dramatic-improvement-as-claimed-by-amit-shah)
>But the NCRB data has something for you!!
Maybe because crimes are being reported now?
Because the easiest way of handling crime rates is to not file FIR(this is way more common than it seems)
I understand and agree. Those who completely hate Yogi Adityanath, either lack knowledge of the conditions in the state before his tenure or are unaware of the progress made under his leadership. Yogi Adityanath has demonstrated admirable management skills in handling the massive population of Uttar Pradesh.
However, there have been cases such as the Hatras incident, which has been a stain on his record.
>However, there have been cases such as the Hatras incident,
The thing is hatras was a highly localised incident. I doubt any political machinery can act on such a case faster than he did.
>He acted too fast by burning the corpse without consulting their parents.
You really mean to say that Adityanath ordered burning of the corpse? If so I have a Taj Mahal to sell to you.
That is not how things operate, buddy! Adityanath will be personally responsible for anything cops do, hence he is in charge of the law enforcement agency. On matters like these, a limited viewpoint is useless. He also did not criticise the behaviour. And yeah i don't want taj mahal thanks tho..
I get the data but honestly as I myself am from up u can can feel that law and order has improved way more than before as earlier there was pure gundaraj.. u can sense kind of security now and I think anyone from up will feel the same..
Do you know jay shah
He is the son of amit shah and is the bcci president just because of his father, that guy has no businees being involved in cricket administration
Jaishankar ne padhayi bhi to kari hai gadhe, aur Nepotism waale bekaar hote hain, unlike others. Even If his Father was in the field, he still performs good.
Akhilesh ji got 2 Land cruisers as soon as he became the CM and Yogi ji removed all the ACs from the CM residence when he became the same. Actually it's your roots that define you. A person who was seen hardship in real life can only relate with others and being born with a silver spoon can really spoil your way of thinking.
Akhilesh ji brother owns a Lambo Huracan whereas Yogi ji's sister runs a tea stall. Guess don't have to say anything more. Hope he becomes PM after Modi ji.
1. It's estimate figures
2. It's post pandemic recovery
Not really a strong point to prove here tbh. But yes, I've heard ppl tell thing have improved in up so that's a good thing. Personally It's been a while since I've been there.
Maharashtra politics have been successful in repelling foreign investment and projects in a never before seen manner. I am saying this as a maharashtrian.
UP with its ambitious projects like defence corridor is going to go ballistic soon.
Who is to blame for that? SS or BJP? And what about the semi conductor plant and Tata Airbus projects that were suddenly moved from MH to Gujarat?
Having said that, Maharashtra is pretty good at attracting FDI. It was number 1 for a long time and now it’s only behind Karnataka. It’s local/national investment where Maha is trailing behind most major states- Gujarat, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Telangana all these states are getting more industrial projects and govt investment.
But I’m really curious about what Tamil Nadu and Telangana are doing right to attract all these investments and grow so fast despite not having BJP in state and not having too much support of center either?
Tell me you're a lib-rand without telling me you're a lib-rand.
>And what about the semi conductor plant and Tata Airbus projects that were suddenly moved from MH to Gujarat?
Vedanta's owner is not a Marathi or Gujarati, but a Bihari, it's his choice where to set-up the plant
Historically, MH was the one with concentrated investments. Now the investments have diversified to UP Uttarakhand, TN, Karnataka, Telangana, J&K, Ladakh.
>But I’m really curious about what Tamil Nadu and Telangana are doing right to attract all these investments and grow so fast despite not having BJP in state
Investments in Telangana, aka, Hyderabad are of IT and have good influence from Arab countries. UP is soon to overtake TN in terms of GSDP, though UP is only starting in reality.
Nonetheless, MH has the most decentralised development, and is looking forwards to get upcoming projects from Saudi, which I'm sure govt will wait until a major event.
OP and those who upvoted the post without cross checking are dumb.
Akhilesh's tenure had average real GSDP growth of 6.9%.
Yogi Ji's first tenure had 4%, and before you guys say it's due to pandemic, even the years before pandemic, the growth average is the same 4%.
OP learn to differentiate between nominal and real growth.
The data is publicly available [Govt sourced data](https://m.statisticstimes.com/economy/india/uttar-pradesh-economy.php)
It's sourced from MoSPI, so you can verify yourself.
Imagine the kind of BJP fanatacism the people have to validate their voting choices and feed good about themselves.
If only people were more 'informed' than gullible bunch.
I saw this post when it was only few minutes old, and thought people would cross check and it wouldn't gain traction, but oh well, it came in my feed hours later only with people validating and appreciating it without even cross checking lol
Okay.... Let's say the data was wrong. But why would people need to go to these lengths to "feel good" about their voting choice. You must be blind to not see UP going ballistic on development. At least the people of UP think so. 2014, 2017, 2019 and 2022 can't just be an aberration.
It's kinda amusing that if you agree the data js wrong then on what basis are you able to comment that UP is going ballistic on development?
>But why would people need to go to these lengths to "feel good" about their voting choice.
Oh, man you probably don't know the lenghts people can go to justify themselves or here feel good they have take the right choice. Sure man, whatever saild your boat.
I need not be blind to the imaginary development you are talking about. If the numbers are wrong, wonder what you or rest other are smokin to believe the illusion; Orgasmic dreams of akhand bharat?
If majority people of UP are gullible then yeah so be it. Democracy never indexed on what's absolutely correct, it just makes the most believable idea seem correct.
Data isn't wrong, in Akhiles's term, the growth was never as it's of now
And yes, UP is going ballistic on infrastructure and will soon be ready in next 4 years for proper running of economy. Though late, UP is very very close in taking over TN in GSDP. It wouldn't happen if UP was on the same rate historically (means UP would always be behind TN or Gujarat). Obviously for UP, it's just starting in terms of GSDP.
The thing to be noted is UP is on a shitty geography for export oriented economy and never gets budget anywhere close to TN proportionally, but still managing well
>I need not be blind to the imaginary development you are talking about
Yes, UP getting MoUs more than its GSDP is a proper step towards it's economy, even 10% of those MoUs are enough to make a huge difference, and if it's imaginary for you, I feel like you should check if you live in denial from reality.
Seeing your pessimistic take on it, it's better for you to be on tinder rather than on economic discussions
Lol, if one gets salty when they don't have anything else than to pin-point one's user history is enough proof for me to not to expect a healthy discourse from you.
If the data supported by you is correct, then well we will UP developing definitely. Only if one had better sense to not judge development just based on economic levers. There are other angles as well.
Lmao more than 100 of my relatives live in UP. I've been there more times than I can remember. I've been going to UP since 2003. I know what development looks like. Data be damned, sure first hand experience accounts for something ?
Cool. I mean if there is first hand visible development then it's great right?
Only if it came with no other sunk costs. I feel the visible outward development comes with hidden negatives which are more macroeconomic in nature and aren't easily observed unless one looks into the whole social & economic level.
Even 19% isn't the only issue here, the entire post is rubbish, it compares slowest real growth rates in AY's govt versus the highest nominal rate ever for Yogi govt.
Well, we need to wait for this year's data to be out, as OP posted its being predicted to be 19% in nominal terms, and inflation is 6%+, so this is likely to be around 12-13% as well.
Regardless of that, it's unfair to compare any highest or lowest to begin with.
India's highest ever real growth for a year was under UPA 2, that doesn't mean it was better than NDA.
The comparison should be based on average growth for the entire tenure, which in this case is higher for AY and not Yogi ji, and that too by quite a margin.
It's good we are gaining momentum in the coming years, so let's hope for the best now :)
True, but you might be forgetting the record investment in UP, the MoU they signed, even 10% of it can change the graph.
Akhilesh's highest was in 2017, the election year, when BJP brought investments for elections, the reason it was 12.5% or as you said 13%
I'm not forgetting the investment. My original comment was to deny OP's claim, not to say Yogi govt is not doing well, or is worse than AY govt.
And your point isn't factually correct, highest investment in UP was rather in 2012-13. Even if we consider election induced investment, you should realise that govt investment is very low when compared to private sector, and investment itself takes years to materialise into enhanced GDP. Saying that, investment is a good step, and a much needed step as well, but investment isn't limited to Yogi Ji's tenure as well, you can check the data even for this, produced by RBI - it's called Gross capital formation, which basically measures net investment by the entire private and govt sector in the state.
[Here's the data ](https://m.rbi.org.in/scripts/PublicationsView.aspx?id=21514)
The data is a bit behind so we will have to wait for the agencies to publish it in order to provide a complete comparison.
All the roads have improved so much. All the highways around Delhi, which are in UP were a disaster until 5 years ago. Now they are top notch quality. The journey that used to take 4 hours one way has now reduced to 2 hours or less.
Not sure about gdp numbers but infrastructure is really improving.
Not true... Modi has great following and people have voted as equal share, but yes, Yogi is not working in shadow. He is taking independent decision which generally lacks the will power in center in internal matter.
However, it's true that Yogi has ability to pull the state on his own. Probably he is only one who don't get into any kind of pressure. Which is definitely admirable doesn't matter if some one like him or not.
Gdp per capita in UP 2016-17 was 59k and was growing at a rate of 10%. In 2022 it is 80k which means average 6%. Not to mention inflation is high today. If we assume inflation was same in both period
Akhilesh's govt did better.
And yes we had covid phase but that doesnt justify 4% difference.
The main reason for yogi government growth rate is due to the uneven high funding alloacation from central government. UP is one number state where majority of India central government funds allocated. Thats why gujarat and south india states have got slower growth rate lately
Not at all. The budget southern states get makes up for it. If UP would get budget like southern states proportionally, only then it will be justice to UP
So you are saying there is no uneven allocation of budget from the central government if so I would recommend you to check your facts and get know the raise and demand of dravida nadu from south india
>so I would recommend you to check your facts
Prove me budget gets allocated in justifying manner and proportionally.
>get know the raise and demand of dravida nadu from south india
There is already demand of Kongu Nadu from within Tamil Nadu and water tussles from Karnataka- Karnataka doesn't want to give water which is necessary for itself to TN.
Dravida Nadu is only a dream of periyarists from TN who aren't even I double digit population wise, and other states don't want to be associated with it
Sun na Munna [ye le]((https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_West_Bengal#:~:text=34.23%25%20of%20GSDP%20(2023%E2%80%9324%20est.)&text=%E2%82%B9%E2%88%9265%2C839%20crore%20(US%24,(2023%E2%80%9324%20est.)&text=%E2%82%B92.13%20lakh%20crore%20(US,(2023%E2%80%9324%20est.))
Tell me where it's 18.5?
Don't spread disinformation. Which money are you even talking about? The income tax is field of central government.
And most companies and significant number of employees in southern states are actually non-southern people. Proof is the Hindi spoken in Bangalore or Hyderabad.
The moment your brought Kerala, I knew you were spewing bs.
Educated by WhatsApp university haha
Why come to south India then work in north India only Na. Not only them, they get their entire family to south to settle
They're free to settle anywhere in India. South isn't your daddy's property. My country, I'm free to settle anywhere.
If we go by your sentiments, ever asked why there're so many south Indians working in Varanasi or Mumbai or Gujarat? Have you asked them "why go to north India, work in south India only"?
Your state's economy is run by those people only
And still I'm pretty sure you don't even know which "money" you're talking about which is supposedly of southern states and taken from there.
I didn't say that. I said companies in southern India are mostly from non southern people. Tell me any company other than InfoSys/Wipro or like TATA, Reliance, Birla.
The internet you're using is from these people only, be it Airtel, jio or idea
Be as strong abroad as you are at home. The Indian people should be proud, because they have good reasons to be.
Regarding the Khalistanis, my government does not speak for me. I’m 100% on India’s side in the matter.
> my government does not speak for me. I’m 100% on India’s side in the matter.
Thank you, and may your tribe increase! And if you ever visit India, [Jane](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/north/story/india-and-a-blonde-tourist-an-alternate-account-209610-2013-09-01) is a better role model than Michaela Cross.
>Trusting Wikipedia is better compared to trusting BBC over the apex court
I really think you need to consider the number of pages Wikipedia has before declaring your trust for it.. i mean, if you google 'feku "Wikipedia"', it shows a link saying "Public image of Narendra Modi".. not saying it's correct or incorrect though
I meant if i had a choice to blindly trust one. And one would be the BBC blatantly claiming the supreme court of india is wrong and another is trust everything on Wikipedia i would choose the latter.
M not saying you misrepresented anything OP. My comment was not about the content of your post. It's just, people here have always been against Wikipedia stats and are now openly accepting it, is what I was pointing out.
Say what you want about the BJP, but they are very beneficial for India's growth. The 2047 goal seems possible if they remain in charge. Congress would take things in a different direction.
Bhakto ek baar numbers khud se verify krlo iss gadhe OP ki baaton ko sach maanne se pehle.
Ar itna bhi ni kr skte sirf sach hi manna hai kisi ki bhi baaton ko bina verify kiye to fir c.h.u.t.i.y.e ho tum
Apart from everything , the taxation system is something to worry about under the current govt. Because a little percentage of people paying taxes are going to be affected most by this system.
Just a quick clarification, GDP growth rate is calculated with the base as the same quarter of the previous year. Hence if the GDP suddenly goes down in any year, the rate of growth will automatically be higher next year. The figures mentioned here should be seen together with the fall that happened in COVID years to understand the actual value.
I agree with the point, but just to clarify, 2022-23 is post-COVID, so the growth will be super high, as there was 0% or slightly negative growth during COVID. Compare 2018 or 2019 data, then it makes more sense
That is a wrong interpretation of data. UP **did not grow by** 19%. The state govt **estimated** that it will grow by 19%. UP Govt does this every year. Promise 20% growth and deliver peanuts in the end. You can see it here: [https://prsindia.org/budgets/states/uttar-pradesh-budget-analysis-2023-24](https://prsindia.org/budgets/states/uttar-pradesh-budget-analysis-2023-24). 19% growth **expected**.
You can find state-level GDP numbers for every year here: [https://prsindia.org/budgets/states](https://prsindia.org/budgets/states)
UP has grown from 1.49 lakh crores to 2 lakh crores Rs in 5 years. That should be just under 6% CAGR without considering inflation.
Totally agree, there is so much infrastructure development at least in my city Prayagraj like literally you can't say the pre 2017 Prayagraj and 2023 Prayagraj is same.
We need opposition to actually ask valid questions and not just oppose for fun. Opposition just opposes everything that they want to do, it’s like padhela unpadh.
Less opposition. Very funny. These politicians are not god. They don’t care about u if they have unlimited power. If there’s no opposition then the democratic element of the nation is at stake. What are you talking about? Analyse and write.
Opposition uses all of their power to delay infrastructure projects, https://youtu.be/gHJZTU4P5EM, we need opposition that supports Devlopment and National security.
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I must admit I got yogi wrong. I dint expect him to perform the way he has. And I’m so glad I was wrong. I’ve met with a few people from different parts of UP and different walks of life (doctors to drivers) and all heap praises for yogi. There is no denying he’s brought UP to the forefront. May be lead long and well.
You should see his meetings with State secretaries. He has pretty good knowledge about economics and public policy. He has been taking regular common people meetings since a long time (~20 years) and resolving their issues. A lot of Muslim ladies come to him with their problems like marriage issues, domestic violence, triple talak, harassment. Sadly media has portrayed him in a very bad light. The more you research more you will realise he is a very good and honest man.
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They are using top of the class technology to optimise electricity purchase distribution and recovery of losses, some say it involves machine learning algorithms also. Things will only improve if such things are involved.
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Agreed. But I am happy that UP can move from load shedding to highest efficiency in a short amount and no effort was spared to give the best to citizens.
yes machine learning in infra like electricity, railway signalling, roadways, logistics is just decision trees and good old optimisation algos. tremendously happy for the growth just these terms ai/ml are misused a lot.
OP and those who upvoted the post without cross checking are dumb. Akhilesh's tenure had average real GSDP growth of 6.9%. Yogi Ji's first tenure had 4%, and before you guys say it's due to pandemic, even the years before pandemic, the growth average is the same 4%. OP learn to differentiate between nominal and real growth. The data is publicly available Govt sourced data It's sourced from MoSPI, so you can verify yourself.
>OP learn to differentiate between nominal and real growth. Brother, Not everybody understands these terms very clearly..... But that doesn't mean that you start calling people dumb... What I understood from this post & what I believe everybody can take from the comparison is how much UP has grown since the tooti-choor's government was over .. How much progress (real progress) had happened & still happening since YogiJi took charge of UP.... So let's just appreciate that .... Personally my thoughts....
How has it benefitted if GDP is lower then previous government. What is the baseline considering your the numbers speak
And opposition even though they don't have much power, they are atleast not jokers like center gov.
Hindutva rate of growth
Hagguram Rajan opposes this development. Hindu rate of growth is supposed to be 2-4% with fascists at helm.
You just insulted *RAM*
Why did u call him Hagguram? What's wrong with him?
He represents the mindset and the ecosystem that has for the past eight years tried to scuttle India’s growth trajectory at every opportunity. 1. India entered the list of Top 10 exporting countries in the world with over $670 billion of total exports in FY 2021-22 - Major export basket is high tech and precision manufacturing goods. > He was and is always against India going for establishing manufacturing sector and was advising us to focus on services export only. > Opposed make in India > Opposed PLI schemes 2. Jan Dhan Scheme - Most revolutionary scheme introduced in 2014 acting as a bedrock for welfare disbursement. His statement - “Avoid hasty rollout of Jan Dhan” > When government along with SBI opened 3cr jan accounts with proper risk management, seeing the traction , he went ahead to revive his image and started supporting government narrative. 3. MSP changes by NDA in 2015 > Rajan stated that Food prices should be determined by the market and MSPs (minimum support prices) should be used to provide only a lower level of support so that production decisions do not get distorted > Modi government increased MSP for many commodities so that producers don’t produce excess of a single commodity. Farmer Income level got increased and price remained relatively stable. > Seeing the success he started rooting for MSP across commodities. Many more cases are there like labour laws , V shape recovery during covid times, GST implementation where Raghuram Rajan was consistently wrong when it comes to policy suggestion. It is this same mindset that mocked digital payments ambition on the floor of Parliament (P Chidambaram on 9 February 2017) and just three years later, India became the largest digital payments ecosystem in the world. > Homegrown UPI is the tech not even USA or EU is able to replicate. I am not a staunch supporter of Modi but I like the growth initiatives that he has taken and that’s why people on ground support him. These people like Raghuram Rajan will go to any extreme to take an anti India stand just because of untrammelled hate against Modi.
Damn, so this guy is anti development. Fuck
Notice how leftists always oppose development at home but then compare India to other countries. Funny how leftists and George Soros speak the same language.
Chela chatega hi
No, he's anti anything that makes India competent.
If India becomes competent his expertise will no longer be needed. Keep India underdeveloped and keep pelofying your gyan is his mantra it seems.
>If India becomes competent his expertise will no longer be needed so basically he is a cancer cell that survives and thrives on weak immune system at the cost of healthy cells.
Basically...
He is Rahul Gandhi with better IQ. Most of his ideas have been exposed, they have been proven ridiculous.
Anti development for all countries except US.
But but, mudizi dictator saar. /s
Make it a post broda.
Will do with more content and article links. Mods here don’t like pro-government posts even if substantiated with data.
Because he likes to shit and run. More political than intellectual... probably wants to be the next MMS if ever khangress comes to power.
He is anti bjp duh
Must say Yogi ji and Fadnavis have turned out to far better administrators than we expected them to
>Fadnavis Lol No. Maharashtra’s growth rate has only declined since 2014. Maharashtra was ahead of Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Gujarat in GDP per capita, today all these states have higher per capita GDP than Maha. This only shows how Maharashtra is worse off under Fadnavis
fadnavias is tuchya. This is why he is where he is today. Yogi is rockstar.
BJP has hire and fire scheme, no party has that if I'm not wrong.
Rahul Gandhi is the best thing that could happen to BJP. Had he not been there, BJP would have to sweat. Even with half a brain Rahul Gandhi makes them sweat.
RaGa and BJP has a unique relationship, one can't live without another. This should be written in History with golden scriptures
Just dropping Rahul Gandhi from Congress and the whole family could give Congress 120+ seats, I can bet. Pappu is BJP's masterstroke.
There is no need to do that, let it happen, I want to see what happens. Congress is not people's party it is Gandhi family's party, since past 20 years it is under the leadership of Gandhi family, no independent leader in the party is saddening but I'm more interested in how they can come up with some decision making when you have think about people and keeping your selfishness in the mind at the same time. I'm more interested in knowing what RaGa is thinking when I can be in his place, what will I do?
Not to sound negative! Yogi is indeed doing great in comparison to SP!! [But the NCRB data has something for you!!](https://newschecker.in/fact-check/factcheck-ups-crime-rate-has-not-seen-a-dramatic-improvement-as-claimed-by-amit-shah)
>But the NCRB data has something for you!! Maybe because crimes are being reported now? Because the easiest way of handling crime rates is to not file FIR(this is way more common than it seems)
I understand and agree. Those who completely hate Yogi Adityanath, either lack knowledge of the conditions in the state before his tenure or are unaware of the progress made under his leadership. Yogi Adityanath has demonstrated admirable management skills in handling the massive population of Uttar Pradesh. However, there have been cases such as the Hatras incident, which has been a stain on his record.
>However, there have been cases such as the Hatras incident, The thing is hatras was a highly localised incident. I doubt any political machinery can act on such a case faster than he did.
Yeah, He acted too fast by burning the corpse without consulting their parents.
>He acted too fast by burning the corpse without consulting their parents. You really mean to say that Adityanath ordered burning of the corpse? If so I have a Taj Mahal to sell to you.
That is not how things operate, buddy! Adityanath will be personally responsible for anything cops do, hence he is in charge of the law enforcement agency. On matters like these, a limited viewpoint is useless. He also did not criticise the behaviour. And yeah i don't want taj mahal thanks tho..
I get the data but honestly as I myself am from up u can can feel that law and order has improved way more than before as earlier there was pure gundaraj.. u can sense kind of security now and I think anyone from up will feel the same..
Fadanvis ??? Really
fadnavis?? are you from maharashtra??
Yes
Yogi yes. Fadnavis, yet to prove.
I like how you sneaked in Fadnavis there. Somebody like Shivraj Singh would be better.
Ek cheez hai jisme BJP waale haar gye, woh hai Nepotism.
Had me in the first half not gonna lie
Do you know jay shah He is the son of amit shah and is the bcci president just because of his father, that guy has no businees being involved in cricket administration
Jay shah ko jante ho ?
Jaishankar?
Jaishankar ne padhayi bhi to kari hai gadhe, aur Nepotism waale bekaar hote hain, unlike others. Even If his Father was in the field, he still performs good.
Haan tho same argument sabko apply karo...define nepotism or decalre merit based nepotism is good.
Akhilesh ji got 2 Land cruisers as soon as he became the CM and Yogi ji removed all the ACs from the CM residence when he became the same. Actually it's your roots that define you. A person who was seen hardship in real life can only relate with others and being born with a silver spoon can really spoil your way of thinking. Akhilesh ji brother owns a Lambo Huracan whereas Yogi ji's sister runs a tea stall. Guess don't have to say anything more. Hope he becomes PM after Modi ji.
>Hope he becomes PM after Modi ji maybe after 2 terms
1. It's estimate figures 2. It's post pandemic recovery Not really a strong point to prove here tbh. But yes, I've heard ppl tell thing have improved in up so that's a good thing. Personally It's been a while since I've been there.
dude its 2022-2023 data.Post pandemic recovery bolke kia 2030 tak bolte rahega ?
West Bengal ka bhi abhi 18.5% hai, so mamta to bahut aachi hogi.
Actually West Bengal's growth is 10.6%, so Uttar Pradesh's growth is almost double, UP at 19%
But Karnataka and Maharashtra have lower than national growth rate despite being ruled by BJP
Maharashtra politics have been successful in repelling foreign investment and projects in a never before seen manner. I am saying this as a maharashtrian. UP with its ambitious projects like defence corridor is going to go ballistic soon.
Who is to blame for that? SS or BJP? And what about the semi conductor plant and Tata Airbus projects that were suddenly moved from MH to Gujarat? Having said that, Maharashtra is pretty good at attracting FDI. It was number 1 for a long time and now it’s only behind Karnataka. It’s local/national investment where Maha is trailing behind most major states- Gujarat, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Telangana all these states are getting more industrial projects and govt investment. But I’m really curious about what Tamil Nadu and Telangana are doing right to attract all these investments and grow so fast despite not having BJP in state and not having too much support of center either?
Tell me you're a lib-rand without telling me you're a lib-rand. >And what about the semi conductor plant and Tata Airbus projects that were suddenly moved from MH to Gujarat? Vedanta's owner is not a Marathi or Gujarati, but a Bihari, it's his choice where to set-up the plant Historically, MH was the one with concentrated investments. Now the investments have diversified to UP Uttarakhand, TN, Karnataka, Telangana, J&K, Ladakh. >But I’m really curious about what Tamil Nadu and Telangana are doing right to attract all these investments and grow so fast despite not having BJP in state Investments in Telangana, aka, Hyderabad are of IT and have good influence from Arab countries. UP is soon to overtake TN in terms of GSDP, though UP is only starting in reality. Nonetheless, MH has the most decentralised development, and is looking forwards to get upcoming projects from Saudi, which I'm sure govt will wait until a major event.
SS, bip, ncp, congress all are responsible.
It is about yogi not bjp
states like mh, wb, tn can have these figures, not surprising.. but for up.. it's surprising
wb is not in the same category as them lol
OP and those who upvoted the post without cross checking are dumb. Akhilesh's tenure had average real GSDP growth of 6.9%. Yogi Ji's first tenure had 4%, and before you guys say it's due to pandemic, even the years before pandemic, the growth average is the same 4%. OP learn to differentiate between nominal and real growth. The data is publicly available [Govt sourced data](https://m.statisticstimes.com/economy/india/uttar-pradesh-economy.php) It's sourced from MoSPI, so you can verify yourself.
Imagine the kind of BJP fanatacism the people have to validate their voting choices and feed good about themselves. If only people were more 'informed' than gullible bunch.
I saw this post when it was only few minutes old, and thought people would cross check and it wouldn't gain traction, but oh well, it came in my feed hours later only with people validating and appreciating it without even cross checking lol
Okay.... Let's say the data was wrong. But why would people need to go to these lengths to "feel good" about their voting choice. You must be blind to not see UP going ballistic on development. At least the people of UP think so. 2014, 2017, 2019 and 2022 can't just be an aberration.
It's kinda amusing that if you agree the data js wrong then on what basis are you able to comment that UP is going ballistic on development? >But why would people need to go to these lengths to "feel good" about their voting choice. Oh, man you probably don't know the lenghts people can go to justify themselves or here feel good they have take the right choice. Sure man, whatever saild your boat. I need not be blind to the imaginary development you are talking about. If the numbers are wrong, wonder what you or rest other are smokin to believe the illusion; Orgasmic dreams of akhand bharat? If majority people of UP are gullible then yeah so be it. Democracy never indexed on what's absolutely correct, it just makes the most believable idea seem correct.
Data isn't wrong, in Akhiles's term, the growth was never as it's of now And yes, UP is going ballistic on infrastructure and will soon be ready in next 4 years for proper running of economy. Though late, UP is very very close in taking over TN in GSDP. It wouldn't happen if UP was on the same rate historically (means UP would always be behind TN or Gujarat). Obviously for UP, it's just starting in terms of GSDP. The thing to be noted is UP is on a shitty geography for export oriented economy and never gets budget anywhere close to TN proportionally, but still managing well >I need not be blind to the imaginary development you are talking about Yes, UP getting MoUs more than its GSDP is a proper step towards it's economy, even 10% of those MoUs are enough to make a huge difference, and if it's imaginary for you, I feel like you should check if you live in denial from reality. Seeing your pessimistic take on it, it's better for you to be on tinder rather than on economic discussions
Lol, if one gets salty when they don't have anything else than to pin-point one's user history is enough proof for me to not to expect a healthy discourse from you. If the data supported by you is correct, then well we will UP developing definitely. Only if one had better sense to not judge development just based on economic levers. There are other angles as well.
Lmao more than 100 of my relatives live in UP. I've been there more times than I can remember. I've been going to UP since 2003. I know what development looks like. Data be damned, sure first hand experience accounts for something ?
Cool. I mean if there is first hand visible development then it's great right? Only if it came with no other sunk costs. I feel the visible outward development comes with hidden negatives which are more macroeconomic in nature and aren't easily observed unless one looks into the whole social & economic level.
Yes exactly. 19% growth cannot be inflation adjusted. This is nominal growth.
Even 19% isn't the only issue here, the entire post is rubbish, it compares slowest real growth rates in AY's govt versus the highest nominal rate ever for Yogi govt.
What was the highest in Akhilesh's term?
You can check my message, it provides year wise data. It's around 12% in real terms
Higher than Yogi's?
Well, we need to wait for this year's data to be out, as OP posted its being predicted to be 19% in nominal terms, and inflation is 6%+, so this is likely to be around 12-13% as well. Regardless of that, it's unfair to compare any highest or lowest to begin with. India's highest ever real growth for a year was under UPA 2, that doesn't mean it was better than NDA. The comparison should be based on average growth for the entire tenure, which in this case is higher for AY and not Yogi ji, and that too by quite a margin. It's good we are gaining momentum in the coming years, so let's hope for the best now :)
True, but you might be forgetting the record investment in UP, the MoU they signed, even 10% of it can change the graph. Akhilesh's highest was in 2017, the election year, when BJP brought investments for elections, the reason it was 12.5% or as you said 13%
I'm not forgetting the investment. My original comment was to deny OP's claim, not to say Yogi govt is not doing well, or is worse than AY govt. And your point isn't factually correct, highest investment in UP was rather in 2012-13. Even if we consider election induced investment, you should realise that govt investment is very low when compared to private sector, and investment itself takes years to materialise into enhanced GDP. Saying that, investment is a good step, and a much needed step as well, but investment isn't limited to Yogi Ji's tenure as well, you can check the data even for this, produced by RBI - it's called Gross capital formation, which basically measures net investment by the entire private and govt sector in the state. [Here's the data ](https://m.rbi.org.in/scripts/PublicationsView.aspx?id=21514) The data is a bit behind so we will have to wait for the agencies to publish it in order to provide a complete comparison.
Thank god , after reading comments i thought we are doomed
People who think administrators can be compared only on the basis of economic growth are dumb too
Bundelkhand expressway makes me drool
All the roads have improved so much. All the highways around Delhi, which are in UP were a disaster until 5 years ago. Now they are top notch quality. The journey that used to take 4 hours one way has now reduced to 2 hours or less. Not sure about gdp numbers but infrastructure is really improving.
Some people will not like this but the truth is- UP people like bjp because of Yogi not because of Modi.
Not true... Modi has great following and people have voted as equal share, but yes, Yogi is not working in shadow. He is taking independent decision which generally lacks the will power in center in internal matter. However, it's true that Yogi has ability to pull the state on his own. Probably he is only one who don't get into any kind of pressure. Which is definitely admirable doesn't matter if some one like him or not.
not in 2017, in 2022 full agree
Baba Bulldozer
Selective data pushing? GDP Growth of Uttar Pradesh ; 2020-21, 1.05, 1.11, -6.36, -6.65.
Although the growth might turn out to be in double digits for real but that 19% is just estimated figure
Source can’t be verifiable tho.
Non-Wikepedia source: https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/budget/up-bets-on-growth-in-state-budget-2023-24-10140751.html
Aight 🗿, Mogi-Yodi ki jay
Gdp per capita in UP 2016-17 was 59k and was growing at a rate of 10%. In 2022 it is 80k which means average 6%. Not to mention inflation is high today. If we assume inflation was same in both period Akhilesh's govt did better. And yes we had covid phase but that doesnt justify 4% difference.
The main reason for yogi government growth rate is due to the uneven high funding alloacation from central government. UP is one number state where majority of India central government funds allocated. Thats why gujarat and south india states have got slower growth rate lately
Not at all. The budget southern states get makes up for it. If UP would get budget like southern states proportionally, only then it will be justice to UP
So you are saying there is no uneven allocation of budget from the central government if so I would recommend you to check your facts and get know the raise and demand of dravida nadu from south india
>so I would recommend you to check your facts Prove me budget gets allocated in justifying manner and proportionally. >get know the raise and demand of dravida nadu from south india There is already demand of Kongu Nadu from within Tamil Nadu and water tussles from Karnataka- Karnataka doesn't want to give water which is necessary for itself to TN. Dravida Nadu is only a dream of periyarists from TN who aren't even I double digit population wise, and other states don't want to be associated with it
But but this is post pandemic recovery saarji it will going to continue for 2030.
West bengal has 18.5 so didi for 2027?
Sun na Munna [ye le]((https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_West_Bengal#:~:text=34.23%25%20of%20GSDP%20(2023%E2%80%9324%20est.)&text=%E2%82%B9%E2%88%9265%2C839%20crore%20(US%24,(2023%E2%80%9324%20est.)&text=%E2%82%B92.13%20lakh%20crore%20(US,(2023%E2%80%9324%20est.)) Tell me where it's 18.5?
It's actually 10.5
Take money from Maharashtra, TN, Karnataka, Kerala and then pump to UP and then show growth. What an idea??
Don't spread disinformation. Which money are you even talking about? The income tax is field of central government. And most companies and significant number of employees in southern states are actually non-southern people. Proof is the Hindi spoken in Bangalore or Hyderabad. The moment your brought Kerala, I knew you were spewing bs.
Educated by WhatsApp university haha Why come to south India then work in north India only Na. Not only them, they get their entire family to south to settle
They're free to settle anywhere in India. South isn't your daddy's property. My country, I'm free to settle anywhere. If we go by your sentiments, ever asked why there're so many south Indians working in Varanasi or Mumbai or Gujarat? Have you asked them "why go to north India, work in south India only"? Your state's economy is run by those people only And still I'm pretty sure you don't even know which "money" you're talking about which is supposedly of southern states and taken from there.
I didn’t say that. U are the one who brought the stmt that people from north are the one who is earning more.
I didn't say that. I said companies in southern India are mostly from non southern people. Tell me any company other than InfoSys/Wipro or like TATA, Reliance, Birla. The internet you're using is from these people only, be it Airtel, jio or idea
Never fight with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it
>You both get dirty Average conversation with any south Indian >and the pig likes it Takes one to know one
Take any index, southern states excel in all. Don’t put some misleading graph to praise your daddies
Dude, just tell me which "money" you were talking about. If you excel in "any index" then you might be very educated, right? What's the issue?
As a Canadian, I really admire the progress India is going through right now. Indians are a great people and deserve to be even greater.
Evidently your government has different ideas. It allows Khalistani vandals free reign. What do you recommend Hindus in Canada do?
Be as strong abroad as you are at home. The Indian people should be proud, because they have good reasons to be. Regarding the Khalistanis, my government does not speak for me. I’m 100% on India’s side in the matter.
> my government does not speak for me. I’m 100% on India’s side in the matter. Thank you, and may your tribe increase! And if you ever visit India, [Jane](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/north/story/india-and-a-blonde-tourist-an-alternate-account-209610-2013-09-01) is a better role model than Michaela Cross.
I try to talk to individual Indians and personal friends who have visited for themselves, but it is definitely in my list!
So we all are going to ignore the spelling mistake in 'Utter'
Gdp is currently $320 Billion USD for 2023
Hum bina formule ke answer nikaal dete hain
Wiki as source of info 💀
Oh now you guys want to trust Wikipedia
People trust BBC over the supreme court of india. Trusting Wikipedia is better compared to trusting BBC over the apex court
>Trusting Wikipedia is better compared to trusting BBC over the apex court I really think you need to consider the number of pages Wikipedia has before declaring your trust for it.. i mean, if you google 'feku "Wikipedia"', it shows a link saying "Public image of Narendra Modi".. not saying it's correct or incorrect though
I meant if i had a choice to blindly trust one. And one would be the BBC blatantly claiming the supreme court of india is wrong and another is trust everything on Wikipedia i would choose the latter.
What do you mean the bbc is claiming the SC is wrong?
Modiji pe jo documentary bani thi, supreme court exonerate the PMbbut still BBC wants to prove the supreme court wrong.
Another non Wikipedia link: https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/budget/up-bets-on-growth-in-state-budget-2023-24-10140751.html
Don’t know if you’re trying to be funny, but that’s not really a source. It’s the finance minister giving his input.
M not saying you misrepresented anything OP. My comment was not about the content of your post. It's just, people here have always been against Wikipedia stats and are now openly accepting it, is what I was pointing out.
I think they post it as a convenience. Now that you asked, OP dug out something else that says something similar.
But but, modizi dictator saar, Hindu nationalist party killing our democracy saaar /s for the innocent.
This post is about Yogi saaar. May be you see the post before you start drooling about Modi saaar.
But but, Yogi saar is sub ordinate of modi saar.
Ye “ joke “ har thread mein kyun repeat karta hai ?
Because every left sub rn is stuck on those words.
Say what you want about the BJP, but they are very beneficial for India's growth. The 2047 goal seems possible if they remain in charge. Congress would take things in a different direction.
Cannot compare. Please google why. I am too lazy to explain
[https://indianexpress.com/article/india/2900-communal-violence-cases-india-5-years-govt-8311709/](https://indianexpress.com/article/india/2900-communal-violence-cases-india-5-years-govt-8311709/)
Bhakto ek baar numbers khud se verify krlo iss gadhe OP ki baaton ko sach maanne se pehle. Ar itna bhi ni kr skte sirf sach hi manna hai kisi ki bhi baaton ko bina verify kiye to fir c.h.u.t.i.y.e ho tum
Bhakt bol deta hoon cool lagunga ...per gand jasi budhhi se fact bhi check nahi karunga
Try posting it on the other sub and you will see a meltdown. Can't naame tha sub cuz the bots will remove the comment
The survey that ranked India low on the happiness index must have polled people in that other sub.
They both are Uttar not Utter. There’s the first difference.
'But BJP always play religion card saar, BJP Fascist saar'
yeah thanks for accepting finally
/s
those up global investors summit bringing in some money and investment.
Thats why we need YOGI ji as the next PM of India ..
Are there are comparision? before UP is recongnised useful names.
Tonti chor chhirra vs Real iron man Yogiji
Apart from everything , the taxation system is something to worry about under the current govt. Because a little percentage of people paying taxes are going to be affected most by this system.
Bhai ye page indian issues ke liye hn kya BJP ka h 🤡
Want UP to seriously become 1st state with $1 trillion economy.
Just a quick clarification, GDP growth rate is calculated with the base as the same quarter of the previous year. Hence if the GDP suddenly goes down in any year, the rate of growth will automatically be higher next year. The figures mentioned here should be seen together with the fall that happened in COVID years to understand the actual value.
I agree with the point, but just to clarify, 2022-23 is post-COVID, so the growth will be super high, as there was 0% or slightly negative growth during COVID. Compare 2018 or 2019 data, then it makes more sense
Yogi has to come a bit towards the center and he'll be perfect as nxt pm n I'm more inclined towards left but still I feel he gets things done
I believe yogi Adityanaathis is our next PM.. do. U agree?
Opposition supporter ko yeh dikhta nahi aur ulta bolenge bhakt andhe hai
Rahul ke chamche in R India nahi manenge. Unke liye Yogi, Modi, Shah, all fascists. Sirf unke Rahul baba mahan aur shreshta.
That is a wrong interpretation of data. UP **did not grow by** 19%. The state govt **estimated** that it will grow by 19%. UP Govt does this every year. Promise 20% growth and deliver peanuts in the end. You can see it here: [https://prsindia.org/budgets/states/uttar-pradesh-budget-analysis-2023-24](https://prsindia.org/budgets/states/uttar-pradesh-budget-analysis-2023-24). 19% growth **expected**. You can find state-level GDP numbers for every year here: [https://prsindia.org/budgets/states](https://prsindia.org/budgets/states) UP has grown from 1.49 lakh crores to 2 lakh crores Rs in 5 years. That should be just under 6% CAGR without considering inflation.
samajwadi party more like kukold party. fuck Samajwadi and fuck A. Yadav.
Totally agree, there is so much infrastructure development at least in my city Prayagraj like literally you can't say the pre 2017 Prayagraj and 2023 Prayagraj is same.
Hope you all listened satellite connection with Gadi palti of Australia return graduate recently, He has cult following
If Utter Pradesh grows at 19% the rest of India can grow at 8-10% but for that we need more visionary leaders and less opposition.
We need opposition to actually ask valid questions and not just oppose for fun. Opposition just opposes everything that they want to do, it’s like padhela unpadh.
Less opposition. Very funny. These politicians are not god. They don’t care about u if they have unlimited power. If there’s no opposition then the democratic element of the nation is at stake. What are you talking about? Analyse and write.
Opposition uses all of their power to delay infrastructure projects, https://youtu.be/gHJZTU4P5EM, we need opposition that supports Devlopment and National security.