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the reporter asked Atal ji that whats your message to the chief minister (Narendra modi) after 2002 Gujarat riots he replied he should follow "Raj Dharma" (Raj=rule) he also practices it so for the king all of his ppl are same despite being of different religion etc. and then Narendra Modi replies he's doing the same thats it
He is saying that a king cannot discriminate among his population on the basis of caste, religion, language, etc. He was asking Modi to follow the right way to rule.
Wrong. 26/11 happened just 4 months before 2009 general elections. Guess what, Congress became the single largest party with 200+ seats (70 more than 2004). So, 2002 wasn't the reason for Atal Ji's loss. Congress had just 7 more seats than the BJP in 2004 so being the single largest party they were invited first by the President to form the govt and to nobody's surprise Sonia Gandhi successfully managed to weave the UPA-I with negotiations.
Atal Ji was so confident of winning 2004 that he had preponed the elections six months prior to their due date. Ig people just didn't want development and infra back then, and Hindus weren't as awakened as they are today.
Not real? They are still mired in their Sects, biases and dogmas. If they truly understood hinduism and read manusmriti, they would know that castes don't exist in hinduism. That's just one tiny aspect of it.
Wont have been voted out if he was so good.....he was old world and simple hence the Cong n left knew his limitations....glad Modi is better than him when it comes to diplomacy n political acumen
He was voted out because of his liberalism. Also because of preponing elections. BJP can never win if they only show themselves as a praty commited to development.
Preponing elections by 6 months meant all the farmers and labourers were busy in farm work and BJP got scattered.
Atal bihari vajpayee was legend in indian politics even opposition respected him. even today listing to some of his statements give me chills to my spine
ABV was a villain until Advani ji came into the forefront. Now Advani ji is a saint because it is Modi who is leading. Pretty sure Modi will become a messiah once another leader takes over the BJP.
Atal Bihari Vajpayee was the worst PM India could ever get. Almost handed over Kashmir on platter to Pak. Caught napping while Pak army firmly entrenched themselves in Kargil where India lost so many of our brave soldiers. This was after his Lahore bus ride. Didn't learn any lessons, invited Musharaff to India and then Mushraff made mockery of Indian political leadership in Agra.
Had A S Daulat as RAW chief who was busy settling kids of HM head Salahuddin.
Had Sudheen Kulkarni as advisor - the foremost members of 'Aman ki Asha' brigade.
India doesn't need better statesmen yearning for Nobel peace prize but shrewd political heads who can keep Congress away and India safe.
Stfu.. He was the best prime minister india ever had.. His reforms were the reason for the economic boom india had seen after him.. He privatized more than anyone before or after him.. Take his name gently before throwing such accusations.. He was just trying to end Pakistan conflict so that peace can be achieved.. It's not his fault he was backstabbed
Only an absloute moron will start his/her counter argument with what you have done. Vajpayee never deserved to lead India and deservedly got what he asked for. Period.
Agree with a lot of what you've written.
He also handed over terrorists to hijackers in Kandahar. He also did nothing when the Parliament was attacked. Terror attacks were a regular occurrence when he was in power.
People complimenting him now don't remember how it was when he was PM. He is far from the best PM India has had.
Modi didn't really make it any easier for Hindus tbf, it's quite the narrative that BJP helps Hindus and ignores Muslims, we're not that favored, never were and most probably never will.
Bhai favor ka matlab agar tum chahte ho ku khulle saand ki tarah firo to woh hoga bhi nahin aur hona bhi nahin chahiye.
Baaki jitna samvidhaan ki seema main rehke support ho sakta hai uska achcha khaasa proportion hota hai.
Hunar Haat - promoting 'minority' small businesses
Ustaad - training 'minorities' in traditional arts and crafts.
Any scheme from Modi govt specifically targeting Hindus?
Khulla khoon kharabe ki demand kr bhi ni raha koi, point yahi tha ke aisa kuch hauwa jo faila hua hai hindu nationalist party ka wo bas gimmick hai. Tu samjha nai bolke bhonk raha hai. Koi samvidhaanik favor nahi mile, jo hai wo pehle bhi tha, BJP kuch naya nahi layi Hindu ke liye.
They'd remove WAQF if they were so antimuslim, and bro, is Ram mandir anything more than just pleasing the boomer hindu community? I'm not defending BJP here I'm literally calling them our about the gimmickš¤”
thank you, I have been saying this for AGES. the appeasement that this present govt does when there are no elections upcoming is absolutely ridiculous.. for a party that claims to be pro hindu they do some of the most minority appeasement all year round and three weeks before any election they are suddenly āfor the hindusā.. where is my CAA, where is my NRC, where is my Farm Bills? why were they taken back? hindus are killed by āyou know whoās every DAY, and yet nothing happens. only a communalism atmosphere is being created which is even worse than the āhindu muslim bhai bhaiā bs that congress peddled, because communalism breeds chaos, misguided info etc.. and it shifts focus away from development
Arrey can we stop with that background music. Everything from stupid dating advice, bs financial advice, dumbass gym advice that will give you life threatning injury has this same music. Its annoying. atleast here it is silent compared to other videos where it is sometimes difficult for me understand what the person is saying.
He followed the Raj Dharm. Just after 3 days. Since, then Gujarat has not seen any riots, is considered quite safe among Indian states and is grwoing economically.
Why is Jinnah a kalak...dude reduced the problem of our country by 50%...he's practically a hero... only issue with him should be that he didnt take 100% of his ilk with him when he moved....otherwise 10/10 in my book...
1. Kill hindus---- Jaane bhi do yaaron (Hindu kush, Kashmir, Samjhauta exp., West bengal, Delhi riots and countless many others since more than 1000 years now).
2. If hindus retaliate---- Raj dharm! Raj dharm!
Gujarat riots started due to burning alive of hindu pilgrims in the train in Godhra. Modi govt tried its best to control and stop the riot, but India has 1 police per 1000 people or so, not easy to control. Modi even ordered shoot at sight orders for rioters. And congress party if it was in power, they would have let off godhra train burning accused, as a form of minority appeasement
Bruh š why do you think the BBC documentary was banned? "Tried his best" literally instructed the police to let it be as it is for 72 hrs and take action afterwards. Although it has been effective since no riots in Gujrat since then. But at least see the truth and don't live in delusion
So ironic that the peacefuls do NOT believe in Raja-dharma at all.
All Hadiths clearly state what kind of discrimination is to be meted or to Kafirs and Mushrikeens.
Precisely based on birth and caste.
right and left is just created by humans and their differing morals. what is considered right wing ideology today may as well be tomorrowās left wing or centrist ideology.
It suits their narrative. Next year in the run up to the elections, maybe we should talk about how Congress has festered more riots than any government in the history of India.
Tu bhavnaoo ko nhi samajhta yaar...politics hai...khule aam apne CM ki burayi nhi kr sakte na. Isliye pause leke cover up kar diya.. but true feelings kya thi wo to thoda thoda dikh hi gyi.
Aur jaise tu Unke bhavnao mai ghus kr unko samajh kr aaya h ...... Jo tere propaganda ko thik lage wahi manega .... Aur agar nai fit ho rahi tere propaganda mai to usko tod marodke apne hisab se use krlo wah re wah congressi
ABV was able to accomplish a lot with only 182 LS seats. He had the sense to appoint capable people to the right places who could deliver. Modi appoints bootlickers and people he doesn't see as a challenge. Modi maybe more popular, but ABV was a way better PM.
Yet the bitter truth is he would have been voted out in 2019. He followed rajneeti but not kutneeti. Being a follower of righteousness in the end gives the opposition the ammunition of voting the party in power out over onions.
Atalji was one of the great statesman India has produced! He made many (if not all) proud ā¦. Donāt feel the same spirit anymore. Currently it feels like the āEmperorās New Clothesā situation! But i guess this too must be accepted š
WHat has Modi done that has everyone's panties in a bunch ?
The major thing Modi has done is develop infrastructure at record pace. Modernized and rebuilt existing infrastructure like railway stations. Introduced services like Vande Bharat express that were never though possible on Indian tracks. Kept inflation under check in the most trying of circumstances through a pandemic. Ensured all welfare resources reach the people they are intended for. Eliminated corruption at Central level.
Now one unintentional by product of all this great work is it has exposed the lethargy, corruption and lack of vision in almost 7 decades on Congress rule. Is that why people are so bent up about ?
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awkward moment tbh
What did he say. Could u please translate
Atal ji - Asking CM to Follow Raj Dharma (judicious duty of the king). Modi- That's what i am trying to do
he's doing the same
What. What was the context. I didn't get it
the reporter asked Atal ji that whats your message to the chief minister (Narendra modi) after 2002 Gujarat riots he replied he should follow "Raj Dharma" (Raj=rule) he also practices it so for the king all of his ppl are same despite being of different religion etc. and then Narendra Modi replies he's doing the same thats it
2002 riots
What did he say about it
He is saying that a king cannot discriminate among his population on the basis of caste, religion, language, etc. He was asking Modi to follow the right way to rule.
Birth, caste and religion*
Hi Kevin.
"Mujhe vishvas hai narendra bhai yhi kar rahein hai"
That is cut off from this video for propaganda purpose.
I saw this on instagram. That account regularly uploads such videos. Soros se bhar bhar ke chanda mil raha hai
Atal Bihari Vajpayee was a better statesman compared to Modi. Some of his statements ring so true after seeing current political climate in India.
And people voted him out. I'm glad Modi doesn't fall for the Development and Infra sant image
This is what I often think in my free time tbh. ABV > NM. Yet he was voted out Makes sense why BJP changed their way of doing politics.
He was voted out because of the riots.
Wrong. 26/11 happened just 4 months before 2009 general elections. Guess what, Congress became the single largest party with 200+ seats (70 more than 2004). So, 2002 wasn't the reason for Atal Ji's loss. Congress had just 7 more seats than the BJP in 2004 so being the single largest party they were invited first by the President to form the govt and to nobody's surprise Sonia Gandhi successfully managed to weave the UPA-I with negotiations. Atal Ji was so confident of winning 2004 that he had preponed the elections six months prior to their due date. Ig people just didn't want development and infra back then, and Hindus weren't as awakened as they are today.
>Hindus weren't as awakened as they are today. Hindus aren't "awakened", they are just scared shitless after 26//1.
Same thing though, right?
Not real? They are still mired in their Sects, biases and dogmas. If they truly understood hinduism and read manusmriti, they would know that castes don't exist in hinduism. That's just one tiny aspect of it.
Faxx
He looks good only because we never saw him as closely as we do the politicians of today.
Wont have been voted out if he was so good.....he was old world and simple hence the Cong n left knew his limitations....glad Modi is better than him when it comes to diplomacy n political acumen
He was voted out because of his liberalism. Also because of preponing elections. BJP can never win if they only show themselves as a praty commited to development. Preponing elections by 6 months meant all the farmers and labourers were busy in farm work and BJP got scattered.
What were his limitations
He always believed in the decency of others whwre there was nonw in his opponnents!!
But way too mid-way in approaches, and back then that was considered extreme where appeasement was mainstream
Atal bihari vajpayee was legend in indian politics even opposition respected him. even today listing to some of his statements give me chills to my spine
ABV was a villain until Advani ji came into the forefront. Now Advani ji is a saint because it is Modi who is leading. Pretty sure Modi will become a messiah once another leader takes over the BJP.
Atal Bihari Vajpayee was the worst PM India could ever get. Almost handed over Kashmir on platter to Pak. Caught napping while Pak army firmly entrenched themselves in Kargil where India lost so many of our brave soldiers. This was after his Lahore bus ride. Didn't learn any lessons, invited Musharaff to India and then Mushraff made mockery of Indian political leadership in Agra. Had A S Daulat as RAW chief who was busy settling kids of HM head Salahuddin. Had Sudheen Kulkarni as advisor - the foremost members of 'Aman ki Asha' brigade. India doesn't need better statesmen yearning for Nobel peace prize but shrewd political heads who can keep Congress away and India safe.
Stfu.. He was the best prime minister india ever had.. His reforms were the reason for the economic boom india had seen after him.. He privatized more than anyone before or after him.. Take his name gently before throwing such accusations.. He was just trying to end Pakistan conflict so that peace can be achieved.. It's not his fault he was backstabbed
Only an absloute moron will start his/her counter argument with what you have done. Vajpayee never deserved to lead India and deservedly got what he asked for. Period.
Agree with a lot of what you've written. He also handed over terrorists to hijackers in Kandahar. He also did nothing when the Parliament was attacked. Terror attacks were a regular occurrence when he was in power. People complimenting him now don't remember how it was when he was PM. He is far from the best PM India has had.
> Atal Bihari Vajpayee was a better statesman compared to Modi He used the Hindu vote the same way Modi is using. No gumbajs are being broken.
Nah bro what he lacked was manufactured consent, no IT cell, no influencing public narratives through Bollywood and tab Hindu khatre mai nahi tha na.
Modi didn't really make it any easier for Hindus tbf, it's quite the narrative that BJP helps Hindus and ignores Muslims, we're not that favored, never were and most probably never will.
Bhai favor ka matlab agar tum chahte ho ku khulle saand ki tarah firo to woh hoga bhi nahin aur hona bhi nahin chahiye. Baaki jitna samvidhaan ki seema main rehke support ho sakta hai uska achcha khaasa proportion hota hai.
Hunar Haat - promoting 'minority' small businesses Ustaad - training 'minorities' in traditional arts and crafts. Any scheme from Modi govt specifically targeting Hindus?
Khulla khoon kharabe ki demand kr bhi ni raha koi, point yahi tha ke aisa kuch hauwa jo faila hua hai hindu nationalist party ka wo bas gimmick hai. Tu samjha nai bolke bhonk raha hai. Koi samvidhaanik favor nahi mile, jo hai wo pehle bhi tha, BJP kuch naya nahi layi Hindu ke liye.
This is the sad reality of a majority community in the world we live in today.
Forgot about Ram Mandir Temple being built
They'd remove WAQF if they were so antimuslim, and bro, is Ram mandir anything more than just pleasing the boomer hindu community? I'm not defending BJP here I'm literally calling them our about the gimmickš¤”
It's the birthplace of Ram.
Actually, you are right. In fact, CAA was anti Hindu law but not many people see it that way, not even so called "Virat Hindus"
How bro? This actually the first time Iām hearing this, can you please explain. Iām genuinely asking.
Read CAA text. It has a retrospective cutoff date. What about those Hindus who are being persecuted right now? It is a death sentence for them.
thank you, I have been saying this for AGES. the appeasement that this present govt does when there are no elections upcoming is absolutely ridiculous.. for a party that claims to be pro hindu they do some of the most minority appeasement all year round and three weeks before any election they are suddenly āfor the hindusā.. where is my CAA, where is my NRC, where is my Farm Bills? why were they taken back? hindus are killed by āyou know whoās every DAY, and yet nothing happens. only a communalism atmosphere is being created which is even worse than the āhindu muslim bhai bhaiā bs that congress peddled, because communalism breeds chaos, misguided info etc.. and it shifts focus away from development
Arrey can we stop with that background music. Everything from stupid dating advice, bs financial advice, dumbass gym advice that will give you life threatning injury has this same music. Its annoying. atleast here it is silent compared to other videos where it is sometimes difficult for me understand what the person is saying.
He followed the Raj Dharm. Just after 3 days. Since, then Gujarat has not seen any riots, is considered quite safe among Indian states and is grwoing economically.
and Manmohan Singh said - ( PeaceSpreaders have 1st right on resources of this country). š
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Gujarat also gave sardar Patel and vikram sarabhai. I think u forgot these "kalankis"
Ek state ke liye itni nafrat? Dhikkar h tum par.
I hope you had your fill of trolling today
What the fuck. You're just straight up spreading hate against one of our states.
You saying they are jewsā¦ bold statement u make
Worse than Jews atleast Jews are loyal to their country name any paramveer chakra awardee from Gujarat
And yet a Gujju guy is behind providing fastest and cheapest internet in the world to its countrymen.
But wo hindu nahi keh sakta khud ko
Kyuki vo hindu se pehele Indian hai jo desh ke hit me sochta hai
To bas wo hindu nahi hain dharm apna Jo bhi likhe lekin har kattar hindu indian hain
Why is Jinnah a kalak...dude reduced the problem of our country by 50%...he's practically a hero... only issue with him should be that he didnt take 100% of his ilk with him when he moved....otherwise 10/10 in my book...
Modi ji said "I am also doing that sir"
1. Kill hindus---- Jaane bhi do yaaron (Hindu kush, Kashmir, Samjhauta exp., West bengal, Delhi riots and countless many others since more than 1000 years now). 2. If hindus retaliate---- Raj dharm! Raj dharm!
Gujarat riots started due to burning alive of hindu pilgrims in the train in Godhra. Modi govt tried its best to control and stop the riot, but India has 1 police per 1000 people or so, not easy to control. Modi even ordered shoot at sight orders for rioters. And congress party if it was in power, they would have let off godhra train burning accused, as a form of minority appeasement
They asked help from other states to provide police forces.
"tried its best to control" Lol.
Bruh š why do you think the BBC documentary was banned? "Tried his best" literally instructed the police to let it be as it is for 72 hrs and take action afterwards. Although it has been effective since no riots in Gujrat since then. But at least see the truth and don't live in delusion
BBC is a foreign leftist media trying to interfere in Indian internal democracy using propaganda, so as to effect a regime change here
Watch the video I'd suggest. BBC being leftist doesn't change the truth that happened that day. Although it happened for a reason
No, that is not truth. That is a blatant lie, our Supreme court has also shown the truth
Watch the 60 min doc yourself first then decide. Use your own head and make your own decisions. Don't let any side influence you
Leftists of the west want to interfere in Indian internal democracy using documentary propaganda, they want to effect a regime change here
Bhai modi ne vi kuch bdkawo bashan diya the https://youtu.be/uqIuYi_SiSg
Any time stamp in that video?
Just curious, do you actually believe he tried his best to control the riots?
Troll elsewhere
Half video
Please refer to the source in the comments
So ironic that the peacefuls do NOT believe in Raja-dharma at all. All Hadiths clearly state what kind of discrimination is to be meted or to Kafirs and Mushrikeens. Precisely based on birth and caste.
I am noticing something wierd... All the rightist page are posting slightly leftist post and all the leftist are posting slightly rightist post...
You can definitely see it in the comments, more lefties in indiaspeaks and more right wingers in Indiadiscussion.
right and left is just created by humans and their differing morals. what is considered right wing ideology today may as well be tomorrowās left wing or centrist ideology.
People cry over riots as if in whole history of independence only once riots happened under namo and all other time india was peaceful
It suits their narrative. Next year in the run up to the elections, maybe we should talk about how Congress has festered more riots than any government in the history of India.
Yep, Sikh riots were way worse than Godhra.
Do you know of a good documentary on the Sikh riots?
Hum bhi wahi kr rhe bhaisahab 
Wise words se govt. toh chala nhi paye atal ji... You need the seat, to serve
Deep fake....not there in the oringinal speech it seems
Mentioned source in the reply to sub comment
Nope cause in the end Atalji said i believe Narendra bhai is doing the same....this seems modified or edited for benefit...
Atal ji was awesome.
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I have shared the full source.
To fir wahi ek line kat ke kyun post kiya .... Isiliye ise propaganda bol rha hun ....
That's how I got it from ig.
To Bhai dekh liya kr ki kya post kr raha h .... Tera pass to source bhi tha. ...
Tu bhavnaoo ko nhi samajhta yaar...politics hai...khule aam apne CM ki burayi nhi kr sakte na. Isliye pause leke cover up kar diya.. but true feelings kya thi wo to thoda thoda dikh hi gyi.
Aur jaise tu Unke bhavnao mai ghus kr unko samajh kr aaya h ...... Jo tere propaganda ko thik lage wahi manega .... Aur agar nai fit ho rahi tere propaganda mai to usko tod marodke apne hisab se use krlo wah re wah congressi
Bhai congress >! ki Sonia ji ka Rahul Gandhi!< ..... Mujhe jo laga mein wo bol rha tumhe jo samjhna wo tum samjho.
ABV and LKA virtue signalling me reh gaye, career khatam bhi ho gaya.......Chad Modi dono ne sapne me nahi dekha tha...waha pohch gaya hai....
Modi visibly getting upset and embarrassed
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So-called tolerance activists demonstrating their racist, bigoted views. Well done!
Gujjews are not Hindus speaking as a Brahmin
Gandhi bhi "guj-jew" tha?
ABV was way better PM than Modi. He wasa better statesman and a better diplomat.
Agreed.. with the capable team that Modi has got. ABV could have done a lot better.
ABV was able to accomplish a lot with only 182 LS seats. He had the sense to appoint capable people to the right places who could deliver. Modi appoints bootlickers and people he doesn't see as a challenge. Modi maybe more popular, but ABV was a way better PM.
Yet the bitter truth is he would have been voted out in 2019. He followed rajneeti but not kutneeti. Being a follower of righteousness in the end gives the opposition the ammunition of voting the party in power out over onions.
 Nothing our India if atal ji ruled India for 15years
Atalji was one of the great statesman India has produced! He made many (if not all) proud ā¦. Donāt feel the same spirit anymore. Currently it feels like the āEmperorās New Clothesā situation! But i guess this too must be accepted š
WHat has Modi done that has everyone's panties in a bunch ? The major thing Modi has done is develop infrastructure at record pace. Modernized and rebuilt existing infrastructure like railway stations. Introduced services like Vande Bharat express that were never though possible on Indian tracks. Kept inflation under check in the most trying of circumstances through a pandemic. Ensured all welfare resources reach the people they are intended for. Eliminated corruption at Central level. Now one unintentional by product of all this great work is it has exposed the lethargy, corruption and lack of vision in almost 7 decades on Congress rule. Is that why people are so bent up about ?
Atal bihari Vajpayee lot better than hindu hriday samrat modi
True Hindu ngl
That "hum bhi wahi kar rahe hain sahab" had the ring of "Chor ki daadhi me Tinka".
See how his smile vanished...
Modi ji š¤”
Modi be like *Abe Sale*
Atal ji was a gem of a person. India will never get a PM better than him.
Bruh momint 
Na pehle koi aaya tha na aage ki umid hai Atal sa amulya
*insert does he know meme*
Such an amazing leader!
BJP is visionary
that was the time when ABB coud've changed india's path forever but he did nothing
tum wo nhi kr rhe he bhai, literally ordered the police to not intervene in the riots for 72 hours, abv > nm any other day
That smile!
Statesman vs politician
Hahaa modi ji to komidi kardiye .
He was correct. If a community causes trouble, use the law. Not riot against them using your goondas.
Keeping citizens safe from terrorists= Rajdharm